When I first watched TWD, I was convinced that such a virus outbreak would never spread worldwide in such a hurry because it would be identified quickly as a deadly apocalyptic threat and contained with all necessary force. Then I lived through the pandemic. And I know, were such a virus ever to emerge, we'd be doomed.
To be honest, that’s a very real statement lol. I’d like to think we’d be able to get through it quickly, but truthfully, with how chaotic just the COVID pandemic was… Yeah….. yeah we’d be screwed lol.
Agreed. I think it just kept going too long. I never finished and I was going back through and binge watching it from the beginning again and I had to stop. It’s just too much depression to binge. Lol.
No shit my point exactly. I have talked and heard several kids actually believe the Gov. has such a virus. Bullshit. Now I have knowledge of the Gov. doing strange experiments with hypnosis but all subjects were voluntary. @@Nathan-hb6hv
Michonne found out by accident that cutting of the limbs and jaws of the walkers makes them docile. She knew the first two pet walkers she had before they died, and in the height of her craziness did that to them to punish them.
I think it's her brothers and she could leave them but she couldn't have them attacking her maybe in the comics, but I hadn't seen the early seasons recently.
I don't think that's right. I think it was a friend and bf and she wanted to keep them a live and found out by accident. She's not science minded at all, but knows some forensics.
Wildfire is such a perfect name for it. Death - ignition Walkers - fire Society’s morals and order - fuel being burned away The Apocalypse - leftover ashes
1. Rick was quiet the whole time. And the soldiers thought he was dead. Same as Shane. Rick was quiet the whole time, so the walkers never noticed him. And the majority of them were chained up behind the door anyway. 2. Exactly Milton pretty much explained it perfectly.3 the governors group might’ve done it. It also matches the saviors. I think it’s just meant to symbolize being capture. And they tied into the CRM later. I’m going to assume that. Rick. Is responsible for making sure the prisoners stay in line. We also seen them in the fighting arena. In one of the images. Which, makes me think he’s responsible for leading them. Maybe he was down with that at first to protect his family. Watching from the shadows. Suggested by the art on the phone. But then something bad happened so he decided he needed to escape again. Multiple times apparently. Looks like maybe it was manufactured. To be used as a weapon, that’s what I get from Daryl Dixon show
One could argue Rick was on the cusp of death when he was in his Coma (effectively body dead) and so the walkers could have smelt the death on him and left him alone, since he was 'a walker".
but thats not everyones question as to how he survived. how did he survive weeks or months with no food or water no body movement you dont go from coma for weeks and then get up and just start going without care.
The Saviours were set in the DC area whereas Woodbury was in Atlanta, I think there is quite a distance between those two so I don't really think that the Saviours had anything to do with the Vatos
You Know this A & B thing really connects things for me. I always wondered what that meant. I miss out on things because I haven't watch Fear & Beyond. I have picked up some things by hearing people talk like you. A - being a person who is bit and experimented on then that explains why Jadis tied up Gabriel & Negan and had the walker trying to bite them. I was never truly sure what that was all about especially since she seems to care for Gabriel.
While the Governor taking out the Vatos is a solid and likely theory, I also heard someone theorize once that they also could've possibly been taken out when one of the old folks in the nursing home eventually passed away, and due to it being early-ish in the apocalypse they might not've figured out in time that everyone is infected and turns when they die. So they could've possibly been caught off guard and wiped out like that
i think Michonne's walkers do make sense and i don't think she found out about them losing interest in eating, i think she just got lucky and had the common sense to remove their weapons (that being their arms and jaws) and i do think it was the governor who killed the nursing home but it had nothing to do with the bag of guns, that's just what he did for their resources, i doubt Simon or any of the other saviours would want anything to do with them
People forget the original walkers she had were her brothers. She kept them “alive” because she couldn’t bare killing them so she made it so they couldn’t harm her
@@2Evol2 In the show it was her boyfriend and his best friend. She did it because her baby son was eaten during an attack while she was away and they were high on drugs instead of protecting him. She did it out of hate and grief..
Why did nobody, especially Father Gabrial, put two & two together & question how Rick & Anne/Jadis disappeared on the same day? Father Gabrial knew Anne/Jadis wanted him to join her and go Far, Far away. When they both disappeared on the same day, why did Daryl spend 2 Years combing the river bed looking for Rick's body? Why didn't anybody hear/see the helicopter since it landed so near to the bridge Rick blew up?
My theory is and this is all very far fetched, even outright crazy af, everyone was temporarily deaf from the explosion, theyd be loud AF! Louder than any gun they had without hearing protection and rick somehow survived his ear drums not being utterly destroyed like they would have in reality, hed never hear sound again and all that pain he was in it would definately cause shock thats why he didnt move, he was so far gone he was literally on the line of death, had they came any later he woulda died for sure and it wouldnt have taken the walkers to do it, he would have just layed there not getting medical attention. Rick has to be superhuman in some way cuz hes been like that a few times and some of the shit hes been through no normal human could survive. The hes a walker theory could work in a weird way. He was in a coma but if EVERYONE turns then he was unconsious and infected and for 2 months the nurse would have been pumping him full of drugs. Its possible the virus adapted to him and became asymptomatic, so he could get bit and hed be fine but thats not a cure its a protective barrier stronger than the average immune system. All those drugs hed been on while in the coma would habe clashed with the virus constantly and he should have died from possible overdosing. But with meds and the disease clashing it kept him from turning, chances are he died the night shane left him there but all those meds kept his organs going for a brief time preventing the virus from taking hold then ressurected after and it went on for 2 months, viruses tend to adapt based on their environment and since it couldnt win against an overwhelming amount of medication that should be lethal the virus did ressurect rick but the meds kept him from turning and made his immune system that much stronger and the virus could have gave him enhanced endurance after adapting to the meds for 2 solid months. So in short Rick is the first and only asymptomatic walker so he can no longer die from infection and reason i say that is if you look at his eyes throughout the seasons theyre changing color, that might mean somethings going on with the virus within.
@@thegeneral19 ya sure about that? Ive been a good distance away from just a home-made trash bomb and it STILL made my ears ring, I hated that experience and trash bombs arent as loud as something like in the episode we saw. Even if they werent temporarily deaf something that loud would disorient anybody and theyd feel the shock wave coming off of it possibly knock them down as well. I would think otherwise it would have been impossible to not notice rick floating down river and since he was in the explosion almost comepletly hes definately in shock so he couldnt move hardly. Unless everyone else was focused on all the chaos the explosive just caused they would have barely missed him. Which the latter is highly unlikely.
Michonne found out about the walkers accidently in season 4 when she was explaining to Carl how Andre her 3 year old died. She thought she was punishing herself for allowing the death of her son to happen by mutilating her son's father and his best friend for choosing to get high instead of protecting their child.
I appreciate this video. I stopped watched TWD after Rick disappeared and lost interest in FTWD after Nick died, so it's nice to get some questions answered, like where Rick went and what happened to Heath.
I lost interest once the whole “cosplay” silly outfits started. I love Jeffery Dean Morgan as an actor, but the Neegan character was a bit silly, reminds me of the scene from Austin Powers when his son Scott says to Dr Evil “dad, why all this stupid devices and ways you want to kill Austin ? Just walk up behind him with a gun and bang! he’s dead”. Started to get that way with Neegan, they could have shot him 20x. Then the cheap corrugated sheet metal stopping bullets ? Would not stop a BB gun.
I lost interest once they killed Carl off. They just start killing people that made me love the show so much. Glann,Carl,T-Dog,Hershel, Merle,Dale,Tyreese, Sophia and Beth
Original fan here. Tried re-watching main series - season 4 is as far as I could go. After that it's 'escaping, walking, buliding, fighting, escaping, repeat'. A lotto be said about getting bitten early on.
That’s when I stopped originally 😂 I was 12 when TWD first released, watched it with my brother and cousin around Halloween and was obsessed with it thereafter. Until season 5. The first episode of season 5 finally broke me, and that was when I gave up and moved full time to caring about GoT. What a disappointment that was lol
So here is the thing...I had a collapsed lung and was in hospital for 2 weeks...just got my lung stapled onto my body, they just fed me and gave me my maintenance meds...other than that...my body healed itself ...the human body can do amazing things!!! I am 4 years strong because always took care of myself...so I am saying like a month he was in hospital...it was possible with me and I was 51 when this happened to me
Now we know that your theory about A & B is off. A's we're killed because they showed leadership qualities that the CRM, couldn't afford to have around.
Just before Rick & the crew escape the CDC Jenner whispers into Rick's ear for about 20-30 seconds. That's when he told Rick everyone had the Virus already & the only way to avoid becoming a Zombie was brain-death.
Somebody asked why do the zombies not rot away. There actually is a scientific explanation for this but I will try an put it in layman's terms. When someone is infected by the virus, it is through a bite which allows the virus to circulate very quickly through the body' highway(circulatory system). This virus then attacks the cells of the various systems in the body and these cells become autonomous . As autonomous cells they now are all independent of each other which explains why the infected don't die ( again) if they are not shot in the head. The argument would be that the former nerve cells still maintain their natural abilities to transmit signals from the brain but these signals tend to be more along the lines of instinctual responses which is why the zombies tend to react very slowly. One of our primary instincts is to feed and that's what the zombies tend to try and do. As such the independent cells do not require the body to absorb nutrients through a digestive system to operate and can survive regardless of which human system has been compromised. Feeding is not necessary but simply a base reflex instinctual response. From what I can see, the cells do not reproduce through mitosis which means as the cell ages eventually it dies and is not replaced. The slow rotting, you can see how the zombies in the later seasons DO appear much more ragged, would be the cells that have been infected that are now dead but the zombies do appear to be very durable. So eventually once all the cells that are literally a "self contained organism" die the zombie would rot but it may take years or even decades before the entire process is completed.
OR…it could be when the virus or shot spike protein destroyed the human brain, the Reptilian Brain took over as shown on Dr. Jenner’s wife’s scan and he shot her.
It’s quickly debunked because the virus already exists within the person. The scientists in the CDC episode of season one explains it to Rick. The reason was because Rick was noticing some walkers that were turned without signs of infection from a bite or scratch. The release of the virus was either airborne or through a resource like water or food product.
@@Creasy5678 most like it was airborne but it's true origin has not been mentioned. It seems like we may find out in the Daryl Dixon spin-off because it seems like France was ground zero for the outbreak. France was working on a cure but instead they modified the virus.
Could the commonwealth, hilltop, alexandria and other settlements in VA have been destroyed since the end of TWD? I say/ask that because that would be a great way to get Morgan into The Ones Who Live. Virginia is where Morgan is heading. It would be something if he found out after the survivors saved themselves from the commonwealth evil clutches and then some settled there, it would have grown much bigger and become a threat to crm.
On the last episode of the 10th season, right after Lucille finds out she has cancer and is in her car.. a news reporter on the radio says, “the killers are eating the faces of the people they kill”. I thought cannibalism started the virus.
World Beyond experiments tried to stop reanimation (after a person is but they give them a test drug, to see if it can slow down or stop reanimation) - Daryl Dixon show's experiments are weaponizing walkers
Same thing as the CDC from Atlanta back in season two explained by the scientist. Hence he shows Rick and family the video of his passing wife’s brain scan before and after death. How the virus triggers and begins to reanimate the body. That CDC was trying to understand the virus, find its origin, and a cure. The CMR scientists are trying to basically reverse the effects of the virus before it takes over. It was explained by the CDC scientist to Rick that the virus already exists within them.
@@mikepalmer1971 I feel ya Mike 👊🏻. On a plus side, we had our teen years in the 80’s... and the 90’s were great too. I got to see Nirvana Live in concert ❤️. I thought I was a “boomer” but my niece corrected me... apparently we’re “Generation X” 🤷🏼♀️☺️✌🏻
@@Mikaelson. yes sir we are not boomers. We are gen x. I would have to say maybe the last of the more tough generations. Lol. I am thankful that we may have grown up and had our early adulthood at the pinnacle of this countries success.
This is pretty much the way I view the incoming information over the years, well done. For me, it’s facts that Governor took out the Vatos. He was introduced well before Negan’s group so I’ll take precedent on that note. What has me is the fact that it does seem as if AMC is finally going to pull this universe together, but I’m not so sure I’m in full agreement with the execution of such so far. 🤷🏻♀️ I’m in it to win it though.
They do, it’s called “La Biomèdicine DDMI” and it’s where the virus originated from. It’s not openly stated what it was designed for but it’s confirmed as ground zero as there’s graffiti that says “The dead are born here” scrawled on the walls. TWD World Beyond
@@queensapphire7717ok but a cool concept for a spinoff show would have a survivor with a gun in the beginning of the apocalypse and the survivor dies and someone else inherits the gun and the new owner dies and someone else owns the gun and the cycle repeats throughout the years of the apocalypse
I've always thought it started out like a mutated Flu and it killed some people outright like those bodies in the cars on the highway and other people who caught it turned.
@@creamcakejulia3850 i remember when The Walking Dead S2 first came out. I was talking to a friend of mine and i said.. " This reminds me of The Stand" how there's just bodies laying around that don't seem to have had head trauma or turned. It feels like they weren't sure how the infection origins were going to play out way back then.
I thought it was some virus made in a lab with the title the walking dead being the name for the project What else do you call a corpse getting up in a world without zombie media The walking dead
Not a mutated Flu, that wouldn't have been potent enough to Infect everyone on Earth. Also, there is literally nothing in nature that causes the dead to reanimate. What caused the Walkers to get up and start attacking the living can only have been a Bioweapon of unknown origin, one that mutated after going airborne and rewrote the rules concerning the balance between life and death. The French lab where the words "The dead were born here" was written on the wall strongly supports this, but it's incredibly unlikely only the French were responsible. I would say that I think the French lab was being used to create and deploy a Bioweapon designed to reduce the global population and make it look like some kind of new Pandemic. But they stumbled across something that got completely away from them, beat the lab Biofilters and went airborne, then woke the dead. The reason not everybody became a Walker early on? The Bioweapon took time to fully "mature" and, so, the very lucky few died and stayed dead unless bitten. Once the Bioweapon saturated the world, there was no way to stop what was happening. The French teams tried everything, but desperation drove them to extremes and created Variant Walkers. Then they were killed by people who found out what had happened and wanted someone to pay the price-excepting rare survivors like the woman scientist we see being executed in France. But France was Ground Zero and the only place in the world with original samples of the mutated Bioweapon-once the scientists were dead and the labs smashed? What little was left of humanity was left scrabbling to beat no less than the Doomsday Clock to recover what was lost in terms of knowledge and expertise to find a way to stop this before everyone dies, then gets back up again. We know they succeed eventually, one of the specials gave us a glimpse a long way into the future, but not how nor who did it. It could have been Daryl's young friend, it might be the scientists of the Civil Republic Military after Rick and Michonne blow up the base and clean out the crazy. Or, just maybe, Mother Nature beat it and the survivors who spent a lot of time amongst Walkers developed a baseline Immunity. We'll probably never know.
I thought Jadis told Rick one was a leader and the other was a worker. She knew Rick was a leader but she lied to save him. A/B, which ever, I don't remember which is which
A & B referred to whether someone was a leader or a follower. Rick was a A but he was told to pretend to be a B, As were usually killed upon capture because they would question authority rather than conform
Here's another question why doesn't the zombies rot away? You know a lot of them obviously has been around the long time you would think they would rot away. Maybe this question was answered already I'm not sure I'm just curious
It all does not make good sense (of course because it's a zombie fantasy show) - but the show's reason for the not rotting - Whatever mystic force re-animates the body of the zombie also halts the decomposition process, the same as it does for other undead like vampires. - the walkers in TWD do rot but very very slowly. We get to see a scientist studying a decomposed walker (maybe 20+ years in) in one of the Tales of TWD episodes. It had decomposed and fell apart.
I'd really like for someone (a TWD junkie with nothing but time on his hands) to put each episode of TWD saga in chronological order akin to what Disney did with Star Wars. Since events of TWD, FTWD, and TWD:WB, and now with TWD:DC & Daryle Dixon, all take place at slightly different intervals, it would be interesting to see exactly how things came to be and take note of things we may have missed before.
Isabelle said they kill on sight, no communication. Jadis was getting provisions, but not in CRM yet. Kubliack let the perimeter people live... In fear the group in the office building knew about the heli-drop on the roof, and seemed like CRM knew they were there. Jadis turned in Kubliack for the perimeter.... Im wondering how much they let anyone know if they have outside contacts, could be death for all.
It started in France, and in the walking dead with Daryl in the introduction it has a drawing of a person or something I think it was like a experiment because Daryl got burned by a walker
When the comic creators were asked how the virus started they said two words Space Spores that's how the entire planet got it the French according to the first season were the last to fall to it so they were actually working on a cure which probably was the reason super walkers came around
Y’all are trying to make sense of a show where if he had been in that coma for even one month, the pandemic is over. All flesh, organs, and blood has deteriorated.
the A's and B's mean this: A: A free thinker - Someone who is willing to fight for what they believe in. B: A "Beta" - someone who will listen and follow orders and not question anything they are doing.
always theorize that there could be a variant version of the virus that essentially causes hosts to come back fully. (Either dead or alive) with basically normal brain functions. Not just the animal parts.
They never answered how Shane turned so fast immediately after rick killed him. My theory is that he let himself get bit for the fight with Rick, but it has been said he wasn’t bit.
No, the Science guy at the lab said that the time someone turnes can be very long or even very short. He said some exact times, I don't remember these but that should be an answer. Shane would never have let himself getting bit, he was someone who would try to survive at any cost, that's the whole point why he was getting angry at rick about
Isn’t it also interesting that Jenner talks about how the French were working on a cure during the outbreak and it turns out they started it? That could just be coincidence, though.
I only ever watched TWD and FTWD (I stopped around season 9 of the TWD and only watched the first few episodes of FTWD) and never in a million years would I have guessed it was all France's fault
Binge watched season one when it first came out, when we didn’t know how it started end of season one, I gave up, and didn’t watch anymore, glad after all these years I got to know.
I have a few questions about first season. The first episode when the little girl picks up the doll and then later on when they are in the city and the zombies are going over the fence and also hitting the window with a rock. What happened there then nothing before the last bit of the season 11
A TWD show runner explained it by the variants being few and far between - regional. Being regional means there are a few variants here and there but not everywhere - so we saw some in Georgia at the start - then more in Ohio area near Commonwealth.
I fell off the series around Alexandria, and didn't see the Negan stuff onward. I'll occasionally consider going back and watching it, but I'm still not sure...
The first two she had, were her husband and brother or brother-in-law. Right? Because they got stoned, and while they were stoned, her child was killed.
The Primrose team is most likely in the Civil Republic, the question is whether they actually treat the virus there. As for France, it's a funny thing, it is probably the first country to "come back" after the epidemic. One thing also amazes me, why they imprison or kill these people from Violet's team, it makes absolutely no sense. These are the only people in Europe and perhaps on the planet who can turn it all around and get rid of the walkers for good. And from the ending of World Beyond and the series about Daryl, you can learn that they are somehow traveling around Europe to look for these scientists. And lastly, why did they create this virus? How on earth did it spread so widely around the world, after all, Jenner said that it was detected about 120 days before the global outbreak. This is terribly little time for it to spread everywhere, after all, there must be islands where the virus has not reached because even civilization has not reached there.
Well it spread because everyone had it already and all they had to do was die and they would reanimate.. doesn't matter if your on an island if someone died there they would turn.. and they kill those people from the team because they were obviously making it worse and people could use that to there advantage like the woman from the Daryl Dixon show.. and even if people couldn't force them to do that and weaponize the scientist they already made it worse and I assume people died because of it so they were pissed off.. I don't understand why everyone has to have every little thing explained to them.. just watch and enjoy the show or don't.. complaining about it doesn't get anyone anywhere
It only takes 3 days without water to die. In reality, Rick had to have only been in that room for a couple of days, but I guess in that world, you can live 3 weeks without water
Jadis was not 'part of the CRM' until she took Rick in Season 9 Episode 5. She was only trading people for supplies. She was always on the outside. Yes - Robert Kirkman has 'joked' about several causes of the outbreak but said he was kidding after each time. The last being space spores or something. Kirkman wrote the TWD comic, but the TV show and comic are two different universes. Kirman never said in the comic what started it, maybe it was space spores (which fits with Night of the Living Dead, an inspiration for Kirkman). But in the Tv series it's been established it started in France - but who knows, maybe they found a meteorite with some spores in it?
