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"Child poverty isn't even mentioned in the six pledges and a lot of people are wondering to themselves how much real social conscience a Labour government will have."
00:00 Andrew Marr's initial reaction.
03:00 Input from Gordon Brown and Chris Packham on poverty and sewage.
05:08 LBC's Political Editor Natasha Clark's analysis.
07:32 The view from inside Labour with Alison McGovern.
Keir Starmer has unveiled six pledges to voters for changes he will make if he is elected as the Labour Prime Minister at the next general election.
Speaking at an event in Essex on Thursday, the Labour leader promised to deliver economic security, cut NHS waiting times, create a new border security command, set up a nationalised energy company, crack down on anti social behaviour, and recruit 6,500 new teachers.
They will be the first things the party will do if Labour wins the keys to power at the upcoming election.
Starmer said in a speech that Labour wants to show voters that "decline is not inevitable" and that "politics can make a difference".
He told Labour activists: "One card, six steps, in your hand - a plan to change the country. This is a message to take to every doorstep in the country."
Asked by LBC's Natasha Clark if his six pledges were similar to Rishi Sunak's five pledges, he said they were "fundamentally different" and that he brought a "seriousness" to politics, in contrast with the Conservatives.
He added: "I'm not prepared to do gimmicks - I'm only prepared to do the hard yards of serious change, with a serious plan for five or ten years of change in this country."
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@AgentGreyFox
@AgentGreyFox 15 дней назад
This is the FIRST STEPS! You rejected Corbyn for promising too much and voted for Boris' Lies. Get a grip people!
@davecross4493
@davecross4493 15 дней назад
We just need the tories out.
@neodym5809
@neodym5809 15 дней назад
Corbyn is a terrible political operator. He only pleased his followers and ignored everybody else. If Labour had a competent leader that time, Johnson would not have won.
@racheltaylor6578
@racheltaylor6578 14 дней назад
Corbyn was a loser.
@Behaving_Golem
@Behaving_Golem 14 дней назад
Corbyn could barely decide what pair of socks to put on in the morning. Let's not pretend like he was a real missed opportunity
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Corbyn had unnecessary BT policies. BT is mostly broadband. WiFi for "free" so making open reach have public infrastructure yet broadband is OK. Water isn't. We needed a water infrastructure company more... again Labour haven't spoken about It
@Gullyman23
@Gullyman23 15 дней назад
All these complaints and comments about Starmer/Labour not going far enough. Corbyn promised the world in 2019 and none of you moaning misanthropes voted for him!
@sarahjaneross2918
@sarahjaneross2918 15 дней назад
His manifesto was fantastic and fully costed. People fall for the media spin.
@Andyreally
@Andyreally 15 дней назад
No. Corbyn was actively targeted by the right wing of the party. His policies were sensible, fully costed, and viable. But they challenged an established order that doesn’t want to change things for the better.
@trevcollier8587
@trevcollier8587 15 дней назад
The 2019 election was engineered by the Parliamentary Labour Party. They just wanted to get rid of Corbyn at any cost. Instead, they have lost over 200,000 members and a lot more votes will go to the Greens than they think.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 15 дней назад
@@Andyreally im not sure how big a part that played. the press did a character assassination on him which i think was the biggest problem. even the centrist papers painted him as evil. that includes the likes of James O'Brien.
@dazzlerweb
@dazzlerweb 15 дней назад
@Gullyman23 death by media, people believed the lies.
@hazrover
@hazrover 15 дней назад
I miss Gordon Brown, I don't think he got enough credit.
@henryburton6529
@henryburton6529 15 дней назад
Nope - he lost because his smile was worse the Blairs - he would have been an excellent Prime Minister if given the chance
@ibrstellar1080
@ibrstellar1080 15 дней назад
He took over from Blairs mess so was doomed from the start.
@user-im8us6sg5d
@user-im8us6sg5d 15 дней назад
He was pulling us through the Bankers Global financial crisis.Unfortunately people believed the right wing media and the Tory lies and blamed Labour.
@henryburton6529
@henryburton6529 15 дней назад
@@ibrstellar1080 Blair didn't leave a mess - he is objectively the best modern Prime Minister.
@shaun906
@shaun906 15 дней назад
@@henryburton6529 i agree, he was a great pm. i miss the positivity and feeling we were achieving something!
@Maltloaflegrande
@Maltloaflegrande 15 дней назад
One highly significant difference between the Labour and Tory manifestos: there is no possible reason to believe that the Tories would even bother to try delivering theirs.
@Ahrimas
@Ahrimas 15 дней назад
Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of the government have been atrocious.
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 15 дней назад
Just remembering when Starmer made 10 promises 🤣🤣🤣
@_xeere
@_xeere 15 дней назад
Given that Starmer has reached the third or fourth set of promises now, I've no reason to assume he will stick to these. When the Tories lie, we call them out for it. When Starmer lies, you call him cunning and intelligent. This incessant thirst for power is evil, no matter what form it takes.
@lcg8220
@lcg8220 15 дней назад
@@jrobs1133 Just remembering when the Tories tanked the economy via corruption and incompetence, making any sorts of promises by the opposition unfulfillable due to the massive change in the economic landscape. Do us all a favour and either spend a couple minutes thinking about what you're saying or don't say anything at all.
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 15 дней назад
@@lcg8220 Do me a favour and try not to assume that I support the Tories.
@vinylrulesok8470
@vinylrulesok8470 15 дней назад
The Labour pledges are very similar to the Sunak ones. Difference is Sunak has no intention of delivering them but Labour do
@jaywilliams8147
@jaywilliams8147 15 дней назад
Oh that is the joke of the day 😂
@ehnowthen
@ehnowthen 15 дней назад
Starmer has never kept any of his pledges and when he gets into power nothing will change with him.
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 15 дней назад
Starmer's 10 promises? You have to laugh
@hohohohehehe6910
@hohohohehehe6910 15 дней назад
He explains why he u-turned in his speech
@Dazzerthegooner666
@Dazzerthegooner666 15 дней назад
They are nothing like sunaks ffs
@mrchoochoohead9033
@mrchoochoohead9033 15 дней назад
I only now realise that my spinal surgery happened at the end of the labour govt beginning of the coalition before the NHS was ruined. If my injury happened 10 years later I'd probably still be on benefits and being hounded by the DWP for being a scrounger instead of being fixed up and able to work again
@mufccharliemufcglazersout
@mufccharliemufcglazersout 15 дней назад
Get The Tories Out out out out out out 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@federicoprice2687
@federicoprice2687 13 дней назад
yes, TORI£S OUT OUT OUT AND OUT FOREVER. Or they'll finish US OFF!
@eamonnpotts5063
@eamonnpotts5063 15 дней назад
After listening to Hunt’s pathetic speech today, Starmer’s campaign kick off absolutely smashed this excuse of a chancellor out of the park! I know who I’ll be voting for ✊🏻🚩
@Freedom4Palestine3672
@Freedom4Palestine3672 15 дней назад
Sir Kid Starver?..
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
​@@Freedom4Palestine3672Conservatives voted whether or not to feed hungry children in our own country and then voted no! Labour haven't been in power for 14 years, you can't hold them accountable for what they haven't done!
@Freedom4Palestine3672
@Freedom4Palestine3672 15 дней назад
@@Jonnyonthespot123 I'm talking about his stance on Gaza, where he stated collective punishment of innocents including children and babies doled out by Israel was ok and completely acceptable. You should know this.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Hunt is like Damian Green my mp bumbling shambles. I loathe Cons.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
​@@Freedom4Palestine3672he said it to wind people up!!! He didn't do anything it was talk
@brianharris7243
@brianharris7243 15 дней назад
If there is overlap it's because Starmer is after the middle ground voter.
@robertfmorton
@robertfmorton 15 дней назад
Starmer is after the tory voter. Hence his grovelling acceptance of a rabid right wing ex tory mp! Make no mistake, Starmer is out for himself!
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Correct. Like myself who is closer to Blue Labour now than ever Tory.
@actuallypaulstanley
@actuallypaulstanley 15 дней назад
Tactical voting ABC Anyone But Conservative
@Under-Shepherd
@Under-Shepherd 14 дней назад
Absolutely. That means the electorate need to vote tactically 😊
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No ABT anyone but Tory
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
​@@Under-ShepherdI'm going Lab want rid of Damian Green who sent us in Ashford this weird newsletter he's desperate when he should've followed Theresa and announced his resignation he's over 60 and talks like starmer. CAN TORIES PLEASE STOP BEING BORING AND WEIRD
@skinwalker_
@skinwalker_ 15 дней назад
The only thing that Sunak has a track record of delivering is failure. Even in the city he was a failure. So the country has a choice of guaranteed Tory failure or something else and despite what everyone says about Starmer, he is a smart, decant and seemingly honest person.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
I agree. Starmer however must focus also on thr state of water and public bodies the state of them. Of trading standards and fraud.
@hohohohehehe6910
@hohohohehehe6910 15 дней назад
I really enjoyed the speeches. I love that they actually have a plan to tackle the issues the Tories have created.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Snap. I agree at last they each spoke in turn not just him in charge^ starmer speaks roo much and Steve Reed was missing water is needed as a pledge I'm amazed this was missing a water infrastructure supply company. Basically the firms merger all the water supply into one company then it's run arms length but the sales retail of water stays private with shares.
@Dragonsitter
@Dragonsitter 15 дней назад
Sometimes you astound me Mr Marr. You’re an intelligent man but you are often so BLINKERED. Labour has to somehow somewhere begin the journey of 1000 steps by taking the FIRST one. The road is going to be so hard and long BECAUSE TORIES BROKE EVERY PART OF THE FOUNDATION of it‼️ YOU know this but you can’t CREDIT THE MAN with his vision of what to do. Stop undermining him for eating the elephant one piece at a time‼️
@shaunjp2211
@shaunjp2211 15 дней назад
Labour really look like the government in waiting, wanting to give everyone a chance in life and not just for the 1% of the richest people here.
@susanwestern6434
@susanwestern6434 15 дней назад
😂
@jake751
@jake751 15 дней назад
😂😂😂
@jackdaniels4368
@jackdaniels4368 15 дней назад
Give me a break
@hnxry_752
@hnxry_752 15 дней назад
Bot 🤣
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 15 дней назад
I agree with you don’t listen to these clowns. they probably like reform uk no that’s funny .
@aidanbyrne8267
@aidanbyrne8267 15 дней назад
There has to be a process for the public to force a general election. Petition that gets x signatures, FORCES a (shortish notice) referendum. "Have a general election asap, yes or no". I'd the public votes yes, the government is LEGALLY REQUIRED, to call a general election withing x weeks.
@shaun906
@shaun906 15 дней назад
the Tories are above the law and treat us with disdain, so i doubt it will work
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 15 дней назад
Yep. What sort of democracy is it where the ruling party can change leaders 2 times in one term with no election. And even worse, when they're destroying the country but they get to decide the timing of the vote. It's a farce.
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 15 дней назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@seesidesummerhouse6112
@seesidesummerhouse6112 15 дней назад
That is an absolutely awful idea.
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 15 дней назад
@@seesidesummerhouse6112 He doesn’t understand why which is so funny 🤣
@VinceLammas
@VinceLammas 15 дней назад
I think Labour are right to explain their first steps, in addition to their five government missions which are tangible in the context of the broader range of policies and motivations that underpin the left of centre movement. This is a communication campaign that leads up to the full election campaign and I don't think it's "too early"!
@mauromatos3124
@mauromatos3124 15 дней назад
Don't think his attempts at appeasing the deplorables is going to change any minds, but Starmer seems like at least a decent and competent man. After the catastrophe of Johnson, Truss and Sunak that is a very welcome balm.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yep. He does need to grasp the water issue
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 15 дней назад
It's not about the promises. It's about keeping them.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yet who predicted when covid and wars would start?
@anonitachi7488
@anonitachi7488 15 дней назад
What a pathetic and cringe entity Britain and it's media is. I'm sick to my teeth of having to endure this circus.
@jackdaniels4368
@jackdaniels4368 15 дней назад
Thats all it is. 2 private members clubs fleecing the country for decades. Im voting independent.
@stephenreeds3632
@stephenreeds3632 14 дней назад
Thatcher....it's down to you. Privstisation, especially in the case of water, stinks and it was never going to be otherwise!
@TheF1uffyOne.50
@TheF1uffyOne.50 15 дней назад
Similar pledges...but no mention of the tories constant failure to deliver over the last 14 years Who would be better?? My left toe would be better than the current batch.
@DylanSargesson
@DylanSargesson 15 дней назад
"Steps to Where?", you ask. They're steps towards the 5 Missions that Labour has been talking about for more than a year.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No. My FIRST steps. Not his his metaphor for the beginning of a journey of leadership to start policies that will be easier to start. Housing takes too long and is still being worked on. Social housing needs budgeting for. Water would cost more to fix yet mergein the water supply companies would work. The private operators are keeping competition they don't have to mow we exited.
@colinturner1951
@colinturner1951 14 дней назад
Britain was put into deeper austerity because of the banking system which was allowed to run a casino its employees doing ridiculous deals with their Wall Street counterparts .
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yes and the Competition doesn't work
@andrewdobson813
@andrewdobson813 15 дней назад
Politics is the art of the possible. Expressing quiet rage helps nobody. You want policies that are emotionally grounded? Expect them to fail. This guy is supposed to be an intelligent political commentator, yet he wants Keir Starmer to express 'the anger that voters feel'. I can hear that in any public house. I think I'll go to one. It will be better than listening to Mr Marr.
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 15 дней назад
Such a shame that the political editor focused on look and feel rather than facts and content. This is where the MSM gets it so wrong. This is not a stage show to be critiqued. Give us fat that we can hold them too. Criticise those facts too.
@charthaiJaiherm
@charthaiJaiherm 15 дней назад
I would vote for Labour, to keep the tories mouth shut
@jake751
@jake751 15 дней назад
Starmer is a tory
@user-im8us6sg5d
@user-im8us6sg5d 15 дней назад
Judge him when he is in power.
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
​@@jake751This country has proven time and time again it won't vote anyone other than a Tory into power. We've done this to ourselves.
@hohohohehehe6910
@hohohohehehe6910 15 дней назад
Speak for yourself. I've never voted for the Tories.
@charthaiJaiherm
@charthaiJaiherm 15 дней назад
@@hohohohehehe6910 all respect tho each to their own peace
@salamyassin5939
@salamyassin5939 15 дней назад
Labor will win, not because Starmer is smart or honest as he is not, but people are fed up with the Tories and the chaos they have made across the board over the past 14 years of their rule.
@jasonngldn
@jasonngldn 15 дней назад
Is this what passes for political analysis these days?
@Hayfever33
@Hayfever33 12 дней назад
2 child policy should be reduced to 1 child policy
@COUNTDOWNTOPOWER
@COUNTDOWNTOPOWER 14 дней назад
I'm not okay with the two child policy. I have to accept it because we need to end the tories, but I don't like it. What I do like is that Alison McGovern felt free to agree with me and say she hates it, rather than robotically repeat what she's been told to say by an overpaid and overprivileged 'advisor', as a tory MP would have done. That's a big difference to the tories for a start.
@quinnrichards2908
@quinnrichards2908 9 дней назад
Andrew, this aged well 🤣 no election any time soon? Love the program! ❤️
@rrstows3522
@rrstows3522 15 дней назад
Watch hunt on today terrible . Ignoring questions,on the actually tax burden still going up especially for lower payed and pensioners, with threshold frozen. Excuses were ,well they use the nhs more so only right to pay more 🥺😢🤮
@seamuspadraigsanders431
@seamuspadraigsanders431 15 дней назад
Tory waiting lists, junior doctor walkouts and strikes, comme si comme sa.
@TeuchterbyNature
@TeuchterbyNature 15 дней назад
Painfully silent on the environment. Labour scares me on the lack of environmental focus given how much of the message is built around development.
@maneshipocrates2264
@maneshipocrates2264 15 дней назад
The tories have no intention of mentioning the environment.
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
This is 6 initial pledges, you get the manifesto when a general election is called
@TeuchterbyNature
@TeuchterbyNature 15 дней назад
@@maneshipocrates2264 the tories have implemented a generational change in environmental policy. It’s the one policy area where I trust them more than labour as low as that bar is
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
The water system was missing
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
​@@maneshipocrates2264they scrapped the bin for soft plastic waste
@AvaBeefr
@AvaBeefr 10 дней назад
"5 or 6 months early" that aged well 😅
@tweakerman
@tweakerman 15 дней назад
Tories out, Tories out, Tories out out out!!!
@nco1970
@nco1970 13 дней назад
You must admit that the UK not having fixed terms for the Parliament but open ones keeps the medias well occupied, both the official medias, the professional journalists and the individuals who create contents based on politics.
@stevecoppin6396
@stevecoppin6396 15 дней назад
ready for government ? in comparison to what we have now !!??
@colinturner1951
@colinturner1951 14 дней назад
Britain cannot really change as long as the financial sector’s grip is taken on and ruled . To do this we have to get the American thumb from our backside .
@Frederique41
@Frederique41 12 дней назад
Being of working class background does not make you more compatible with Labour's values. Starmer acts like the simple fact that his parents were from a working class background legitimates his position as a leader of the Labour party. This is not a valid argument to build his campaign on. The people need more than words and relatable facts to go on at this point. We need the Tories out , a strong NHS, affordable housing, no more privatisation of our water/gas/electricity and no more cost of living crisis. Once Starmer will get that, he will be legitimised as a leader.
@skippythemagnificent8103
@skippythemagnificent8103 15 дней назад
Tax the Rich : Eliminate Conservative Inequality :: Life, hope and happiness in Britain for the 'people' not just the 'privileged'
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No. Tax wealth according to family size. Someone alone who has no children should be taxed less. People passing money to children who are adult very unfair. It's not a "gift" those without children forced to gove money to govt if no living ancestors
@VincentPeters-vs2us
@VincentPeters-vs2us 15 дней назад
Hunt, the See You Next Tuesday specialist, telling it like it never was.... over and over again.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
He's useless
@BoloSparks
@BoloSparks 14 дней назад
No Corbyn, No Vote.
@hayzee4429
@hayzee4429 14 дней назад
Sir Kid Starver is nothing but the leader of a Tory tribute act.
@markstevens6568
@markstevens6568 14 дней назад
No mention in the pledges about defence and housing - simply astonishing - vote Reform!
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
The housing policy is manifesto. Because Rayners not just on some throw away gimmick. Her policies are serious and it's stuck in the courts.
@helicoptergunship
@helicoptergunship 15 дней назад
Natasha Clark is so beautiful
@garlicbreath7259
@garlicbreath7259 15 дней назад
Yawn
@helicoptergunship
@helicoptergunship 15 дней назад
@@garlicbreath7259 lol
@henryburton6529
@henryburton6529 15 дней назад
Starmer's not the same as Sunak - Sunak has moved left to try and not get wiped out at the next election - thankfully its too late for Sunak, the damage was done by his abominable predecessors.
@jaywilliams8147
@jaywilliams8147 15 дней назад
If Sunak had moved ‘right’ the Tories would be returned to government. Wrong move - the left will destroy everything you hold dear.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yes. He's different more charismatic. Sunak is Blair more than starmer
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
​@@jaywilliams8147no sunak is left. He studied in california in a lefty area...why study in a part where drugs and guns are legal?
@jaywilliams8147
@jaywilliams8147 14 дней назад
@@veggie42 Do you not understand what I said? I agree that Sunak moved left. I said that he made the wrong move and should have moved right then the Tories would win the next election.
@Arsenalfc108
@Arsenalfc108 15 дней назад
Anything this man said i don't believe it
@RegionalVariation
@RegionalVariation 14 дней назад
Natasha Clark is a client journalist. Wittering on here about shirts and rolled up sleeves, propagating the same line as the BBCs Chris Mason. Get serious.
@RegionalVariation
@RegionalVariation 14 дней назад
Why’s she using emotive language? “Powerful” this, “emotional” that. It’s partial journalism from someone with short odds of being inculcated into the incoming Labour government as a media officer.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
It's nothing like Blair
@GeorgeGeorgeOnly
@GeorgeGeorgeOnly 11 дней назад
Under these Tories, safe drinking water will become a privilege.
@ItsDeffoChris
@ItsDeffoChris 15 дней назад
I was shocked at the Gaza policy part of Keir's speech when he unzipped his costume and revealed he was Sunak, and then when he unzipped that one and revealed he was Joe Biden. Crazy world eh.
@RampantFirefly
@RampantFirefly 15 дней назад
Could we maybe have a general election that focuses on the state of our own country?
@douglasmacari8707
@douglasmacari8707 15 дней назад
@@RampantFireflyWhat could be more relevant to the "state of our own country" than our moral integrity as a nation? British politicians from both major parties are enabling, supporting and arming a genocidal, terroristic, failed state and trashing our international reputation in the process.
@victorymansions
@victorymansions 15 дней назад
Then he unzipped that one to reveal a ravenous, screaming lizard, with hungry, clawing talons and a wildly thrashing tail.
@lounasee0911
@lounasee0911 15 дней назад
Labour will be more or less the same as Conservatives people need a third option!
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
That's exactly what I would brainwash the country into thinking if I was a Conservative!
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
It wint be in attitudes. The policies are the caution
@alexanderprice6612
@alexanderprice6612 15 дней назад
Tories and Labour both have a vision for all jobs in the UK to pay minimum wage. Pat the GCSE dropout cleaner now earns the same salary as Steve the 4 year degree educated lab technician. The future of the UK is everyone working in Aldi because there's no financial reward to learn skills.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yes. My cousin with AS levels is doing shop work how pathetic she chose to dump a degree for retail...
@TheMrReee
@TheMrReee 15 дней назад
What about social housing?
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
It's coming
@TheMrReee
@TheMrReee 14 дней назад
@veggie42 until Labour make a public commitment to build social housing, its just rhetoric.
@albertbrammer9263
@albertbrammer9263 15 дней назад
I am sceptical because you accepted Elphicke and that adds to the tone that they are all the same. Why not have the Commons having a proper system? If you get a majority that is an easy win. Call it cleaning up politics.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
But she's not staying there as an mp just a member. Ex conservatives etc have joined or left its up to people.
@domclarke5097
@domclarke5097 15 дней назад
No bias here
@mrelba9176
@mrelba9176 15 дней назад
My pet dog was a tool maker.
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 15 дней назад
Wow what a powerful sentence 🙄
@mrelba9176
@mrelba9176 15 дней назад
@catherinemartin6258 Him being working class at Any point of his is really uninteresting. People want concepts and plans. Not self-adgridisation, which will lead to him implementing 30 year old politics in a very different climate.
@stevecoppin6396
@stevecoppin6396 15 дней назад
smarter than you then , toolmaking is quite difficult and technically can be complex
@mrelba9176
@mrelba9176 15 дней назад
@stevecoppin6396 This went over your head didn't it? Ironic.
@stevecoppin6396
@stevecoppin6396 15 дней назад
@@mrelba9176 possibly , but i've seen young people mock tool making without knowing what it entails. so not ironic ,just cross purposes
@martindornan1667
@martindornan1667 14 дней назад
When Starmer took power in the Labour party he had ten pledge's most of which have been dropped. Why would you believe Starmers latest pledges will be implemented in the future.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
They have not. He didn't pledge any money just said if you look climate justice^ that's for a manifesto and later. He said stuff to fight RLB because she was around Rayner^ the workers rights thing she's been given because she refused health and sc job.
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 15 дней назад
Christ. You lot would think the mmaster of the workhouse was the second coming if all he did was guve Oliver a second helping. Think bigger ffs!
@svenfricke2961
@svenfricke2961 14 дней назад
Starmer talking about his working class background while watering down workers rights and keeping the two child benefit cap.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Working class south and working class north are different. Workers rights he allowed to expose what they think of Rayners class^
@gooderspitman8052
@gooderspitman8052 15 дней назад
With sleeves rolled up, both leaders have interchangeable heads and their policies are not much different, just more neoliberal, Thatcherism. Tbh I’ve voted Labour for fifty years but I never noticed and despite the song, Things “Getting Better.”
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
It might surprise you but Labour haven't been in power for over 10 years
@alst4817
@alst4817 15 дней назад
Unfortunately the Labour Party has to play well to the Home counties, middle England, and they don’t care about poverty, only about house prices.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Indeed. They inherit wealth more and pay too little c tax. The C Tax needs to GO, Bedroom tax worse in the north when children and parents die leaving empty rooms and costs benefits.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 15 дней назад
I hoped for better. It’s easy to set objectives…but not so easy to create practical plans to achieve them. That’s why we are sick of the Tories. Endless objectives which they never achieve.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 15 дней назад
It's bullet points for activists when there door knocking and canvassing The manifesto will have detail, given the shalacking Tories have gotten since the last election there's not many tory activists left
@stuartb2220
@stuartb2220 15 дней назад
Looks like a prime minister
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
More than Sunak who looks a chikd
@geoffreyhughes9979
@geoffreyhughes9979 15 дней назад
Time to rejoin the EU.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No it didn't work. The EU didn't make our water cleaner the uk.was fined in 2009
@david030491
@david030491 15 дней назад
Red Tories. How inspiring.
@user-dq6nj1zv9h
@user-dq6nj1zv9h 15 дней назад
Red Tories and Blue Labour, its pathetic
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Why? I prefer Blue Labour to hard left
@david030491
@david030491 14 дней назад
@@veggie42 not a huge fan and plunging 250k kids into poverty but that’s just me.
@davecross4493
@davecross4493 13 дней назад
@@david030491 not sure what that means. How would the Tories be better?
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 15 дней назад
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@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No. Thats embarrassing
@ejc636
@ejc636 15 дней назад
All promises no action and no result. As an ex physics teacher offer me 45k min and I might be interested. Lol
@gavinsmith9564
@gavinsmith9564 15 дней назад
Starmer scarpped his Leadership pledges before the ink was dry, he was a Remainer, but switched to be a Hard Brexiteer. All the integrity of a of wet paperbag.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 15 дней назад
Yet we will realign with the EU under his leadership he has already said as much to remove as many barriers as possible
@gaiahunter3863
@gaiahunter3863 15 дней назад
No matter what Starmer does or wants, there will be no way to Join the EU in the next two parliaments. And I said join because we can all forget about rejoining on the old terms.
@Ahrimas
@Ahrimas 15 дней назад
Lol, Starmer is a hard brexiteer? You aren't paying attention
@douglasmacari8707
@douglasmacari8707 15 дней назад
@@SlowhandGreg You are surely missing the point - it doesn't matter what Starmer has "said", he cannot be trusted to keep his word. No integrity, no honesty, no chance that he will ever even one degree from the Tory neoliberalist agenda.
@blazzz13
@blazzz13 15 дней назад
Explain how Starmer is a hard Brexiteer.
@johnbennett9630
@johnbennett9630 15 дней назад
Nobody ever thought that the stuff the tories promised wasn't attractive - it's why they got elected after all. But they never delivered any of it did they? Of course Labour's pledges sound similar to tory ones. Nothing remains to be offered to voters that hasn't already been offered and reneged on in a broken tory promise - so Labour has to win on credibility/honesty - and convince it will deliver.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
They haven't promised 40 new hospitals which take years.
@RedJadeArt
@RedJadeArt 15 дней назад
It’s a pretty similar manifesto - but he has the big advantage of actually being able to credibly deliver on it. Sunak is not a promise keeper.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Not really.
@ovidiumiinea5462
@ovidiumiinea5462 15 дней назад
Starmer is a liar! Vote Green
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No their candiste for ashford bullied me
@Danders1657
@Danders1657 15 дней назад
Starmer will do what the WEF tell him to do,he certainly won't do anything for the country or you, only himself.
@DavidTurner-cn1xj
@DavidTurner-cn1xj 15 дней назад
Are you having a laugh
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yet sunak hasn't he's not doing anything about soft plastic waste
@Albanach-je1nk
@Albanach-je1nk 15 дней назад
Maybe if English Labour became Socialist again it might help.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
No it is.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
The policies are socialist. Jeremy Corbyns were mental.
@mattpreece6106
@mattpreece6106 15 дней назад
Makes you wish we voted for Gordon. He made a few miscalculations that were fkin nothing compared to the 14 years of Tory Austerity.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Gordon didn't accept people have to help themselves and he was in denial about immigration and that poverty was about education
@Dylan-co2cl
@Dylan-co2cl 15 дней назад
There is no difference between tory and Starmer's tory reds,both are establishment and are ultimately serving the interests of the rich and big corps,us working class need to understand this truth.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
He needs water policy
@trevski9265
@trevski9265 14 дней назад
Both as bad. Betrayed since 1945
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
The railways were shut down
@davecross4493
@davecross4493 13 дней назад
Except labour actually govern while the Tories just sell stuff off and don't do much else
@user-wq6sz7vt3w
@user-wq6sz7vt3w 15 дней назад
The London Labour echo chamber at LBC is always a laugh!
@Cherrytune386
@Cherrytune386 15 дней назад
Come on Labour, we're ready. ❤
@heshamallam8829
@heshamallam8829 15 дней назад
The propaganda continues!!
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 15 дней назад
If Labour thinks these pledges will fix anything, then they are deluded...😂😂..
@Dazzerthegooner666
@Dazzerthegooner666 15 дней назад
Worth a shot, we know what we get with the tories and that’s chaos and corruption… time to move on
@jdolanout
@jdolanout 15 дней назад
Not as deluded as anyone who thinks the Tories will deliver anything that benefits the average citizen.
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 15 дней назад
@@jdolanout none of them will
@jdolanout
@jdolanout 15 дней назад
@@songscoops4205 So why not gamble on the ones who haven't proven they won't for almost one and a half decades? 🤷🏼
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 15 дней назад
@@jdolanout not a chance...
@lornalow7479
@lornalow7479 15 дней назад
If he bows to the pressure and gets rid of Angela, I'm out
@user-lp7wo7og4x
@user-lp7wo7og4x 15 дней назад
I'm a classic tory voter and honestly impressed by Starmer
@Andyreally
@Andyreally 15 дней назад
Well that’s to be expected as he is a Tory. It’s like coming home.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 15 дней назад
how have you been fooled by the tories for so long? they have always been a disaster
@user-lp7wo7og4x
@user-lp7wo7og4x 15 дней назад
@@kanedNunable I love to use my own money where I see fit, instead of getting taxed high
@alvisekibe279
@alvisekibe279 15 дней назад
​@@user-lp7wo7og4xData actually shows that Tories are the party of high taxes since Thatcher's days
@oaksted338
@oaksted338 15 дней назад
Sunak/Starmer... we're being sold a pup either way
@AppleAirsoft
@AppleAirsoft 15 дней назад
Watching someone like Marr who has permeated encouraged and existed his whole career in the bubble of Oligarch media, putting on a pantomime to pretend this country is democratic when both major parties serve the same exclusive club of kleptocratic oligarchs that have driven the UK in this direction for years. Oligarch media analyzes oligarch parties both serving oligarchs in an oligarchy.
@shaun906
@shaun906 15 дней назад
we shall see!
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Yet ITV gets away with bias
@jamessteel9016
@jamessteel9016 15 дней назад
Sounded very much like Piggy boy Dave back in 2010.
@thomasmoore1499
@thomasmoore1499 15 дней назад
If you haven't got anything to say worth hearing then don't waste your breath.
@MrTzimisces
@MrTzimisces 15 дней назад
If the sum of all your politics is "Red team v Blue team" then this general election is perfect for you. Otherwise Labour and the Tories offer absolutely nothing different from one another.
@margaretmckay-os1sz
@margaretmckay-os1sz 15 дней назад
Starmer cool & calm? Did she mean wooden?
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
He seemed better than before
@TheRealSimpsons1
@TheRealSimpsons1 15 дней назад
Starmer is a born liar.
@freedomforthebrave
@freedomforthebrave 15 дней назад
And what is sunak
@martywestywood6004
@martywestywood6004 15 дней назад
Soontobesacked is not even a liar, as that suggests saying one thing and doing another. Soontobesacked just says things and does absolutely nothing
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
​@@martywestywood6004yep. He's dome nothing. Water is a state why make steve barclay environment sec? He's doing nothing
@walterblock5082
@walterblock5082 15 дней назад
Next, we will see how many steps Starmer flip flops as the days go by.
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
What kn steps he already had. The school/nhs pledges he had as missions. The boats is a new one. Homes the policy for those would've had "hey you cannot fund this" so he's got things that have a return of preve native measures. Speculate to accumulate.
@tedtedtedtedted
@tedtedtedtedted 15 дней назад
it's not even warmed up tory, it's completely vacuous, not a single measurable target
@VinceLammas
@VinceLammas 15 дней назад
It's completely ridiculous to suggest that "measurable targets" can be explained on a something like a pledge card. Cant you make your heartfelt critique, at least, realistic.
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад
If you aren't informed enough to know what this is then please don't make any comments. This is first round marketing, you get the manifesto when our cowardly prime minister announces a general election
@tedtedtedtedted
@tedtedtedtedted 15 дней назад
@@VinceLammas why, blair had measurable targets on his do you understand now ?
@VinceLammas
@VinceLammas 15 дней назад
@@tedtedtedtedted What targets were on a pledge card?
@tedtedtedtedted
@tedtedtedtedted 15 дней назад
@@VinceLammas look it up, I'm not your babysitter
@raycollins7511
@raycollins7511 15 дней назад
Why don’t you stand for parliament Mr Marr? You would be a great asset for the Conservative party. You’re analytical questioning would find all the flaws in the Labour party policies and convince the electorate that only the present government can be trusted..
@Millie.com232
@Millie.com232 15 дней назад
There is no choice available to the British public. The mono-party that can’t or won’t tackle immigration, can’t bring law and order and can’t manage a budget
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Immigration is a problem around the world. People would stop coming with EU agreements which sunak won't get being nasty
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 15 дней назад
Starmer analysed 🥱😴
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 15 дней назад
Your a tory
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 15 дней назад
@catherinemartin6258 Actually, I'm from a family that voted for labour from the start. We voted for tories because the labour party have gone down the plughole.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 15 дней назад
@@snowyowel7961 how has voting tory worked out for you then?
@Itsnotcomplicatedreally
@Itsnotcomplicatedreally 15 дней назад
Mr No ceasefire, Israel has a right to defend itself but ceasefire now
@MurphyOCP-001
@MurphyOCP-001 15 дней назад
Labour brought forward a motion for humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, you're literally wrong about everything
@jake751
@jake751 15 дней назад
​@@MurphyOCP-001no they didn't
@dazzlerweb
@dazzlerweb 15 дней назад
Starmer never sticks to his proposed policies. [edited for clarification lol]
@proskipper1
@proskipper1 15 дней назад
Yeh just like the Tories...
@TimoDyer
@TimoDyer 15 дней назад
Where is the extra 350million pounds a week for the NHS and 40,000 new hospitals?
@K_Ri-mw4hr
@K_Ri-mw4hr 15 дней назад
Fact is bud, manifestos change. Firstly, politicians are politicians. You cannot change anything without being elected. They water-down manifestos to make it more appealable to a wider array of audiences. We live in a democracy and, one 'downside' of that, we often need to water-down promises to win. Something is better than nothing. Secondly, circumstances change. Stuff happens and promises you once made, you now can't. Either because of economic, legal or practical complications. The majority of their manifesto probably won't be enacted. And yeah, majority of his leadership promises might not either. But, at least we'll get something. Which is better than 14 years of nothing.
@MurphyOCP-001
@MurphyOCP-001 15 дней назад
Starmer has never been in Government, so you have no basis for that assumption
@dazzlerweb
@dazzlerweb 15 дней назад
@@TimoDyer well, Brexit cost as much as the UK has paid since we joined, and continues to cost more than 350m a week.
@samcarena4702
@samcarena4702 14 дней назад
Labour offer absolutely nothing.
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 15 дней назад
No one is offering anything better at all they get my vote
@veggie42
@veggie42 14 дней назад
Where are water policies? Where's rhe end of ridiculous carers allowance? Where's the end of councils tax? Bedroom tax? Business rates? Removing VAT off taxi journeys and gas and electricity?
@user-ob1oi7kn2w
@user-ob1oi7kn2w 15 дней назад
Zzzzzzzzzzz
@themarshall741
@themarshall741 15 дней назад
All Politicians say what they think will get them elected. They don't really care about you.
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