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How discounts and caps work for convertible notes, Pre-money SAFEs and Post-money SAFEs 

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Topic: How discounts and valuation caps determine how much stock a convertible note or SAFE (Simple Agreement for Future Equity) investor will receive for their investment. Both pre-money SAFEs and post-money SAFEs are discussed, with examples of how both pre-money valuation caps and post-money valuation caps work.

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@successfulpodcast
@successfulpodcast 8 месяцев назад
Thank you, Steve. I need this information for my podcast network, the World Podcast Network. This is a great explanation on such a SAFEs, CAPs, and discounts. A little confusing, but I am sure I will eventually get it. I am preparing a pitch deck now and am on the Ask slide, so your explanation was clear. Now, I need to determine the numbers.
@sodiqlala139
@sodiqlala139 Год назад
This is insightful
@seeyoucu
@seeyoucu Год назад
Thanks!
@EliotPowell
@EliotPowell 2 года назад
I was a little confused, but I think I figured it out. Around the 6:30 mark in the Post-money Cap description, the text on screen show "Inv. A gets 5% of $1.176M". I believe Investor A gets 5% of 1.176M shares, not 5% of 1.176M dollars, correct? Same comment for Investor B, it's 10% of shares, not 10% of dollars. BTW, this is incredibly valuable stuff you are doing!
@Startupsos
@Startupsos 2 года назад
Correct. My bad - there should not have been dollar signs in front of the 1.176M. That's number of shares, not dollars!
@user-jb5hp6sd2e
@user-jb5hp6sd2e 2 года назад
Thank you for your great video. If a VC want to "invest $100k to us through a SAFE with the post money valuation cap of $7M or 20% discount", is their their equity 1.5%? And what is the term "or 20% discount" but not "and 20% discount" here?
@jarrellgreen2758
@jarrellgreen2758 2 года назад
So if a company is raising $50k and their SAFE has a 5% discount on a 1mm valuation cap and I want to invest $100, what is my share amount?
@aidanvogel3757
@aidanvogel3757 Год назад
After Investor A and B get the lower price of $3.25 that means they get more shares… does that mean in time you could be giving up more equity in your company than what was originally thought?
@Startupsos
@Startupsos Год назад
Yes, if the discount provides a better deal than the cap, then in the "Post SAFE round" the SAFE investors get a larger percent of the company than they were promised by the cap.
@jan-willem7400
@jan-willem7400 8 дней назад
What is not clear from this video series: Does the pre-money valuation have to be specified on a fully diluted basis? Or can it also be on an undiluted basis? As it's not consistent in the video series, I think it creates confusion on how to perform the calculations and what exactly the difference is between a post-money and pre-money SAFE.
@arrash
@arrash 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video. Question: If the founders are to invest significant money into their own startup, what are the advisable ways to handle it? Should they be treated as other 3rd party investors? Or are the specific terms to be considered for them?
@Startupsos
@Startupsos 3 года назад
I'll talk about his more in the current series on the Startup Team (ru-vid.com/group/PLmHBbUI__57lB9iVfwCsXRHINo6JKX5OY). One approach is to make the founder investment in the form of a SAFE or convertible note and have it convert to stock in the next priced round.
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