How Do Calvinists Get it So Wrong? 

I wish I could respond to every comment. Y'all are great! You have some fantastic insights and I greatly appreciate the conversation. I learn so much just from reading the comments. God bless you guys!

I’m the only Catholic in my family, a convert from Lutheranism. I long in my heart for my brothers and their families to receive the Eucharist! I pray every day for them knowing that what seems impossible to me is always possible with God!!!

John MacArthur is consumed by hatred for the Church and the Mass. Two of the greatest graces and gifts Our Lord grants to us while we undertake this pilgrim's journey to eternity, and he mocks, insults, blasphemes, and lies about them, constantly. I will grant him one thing though. Unlike the proverbial incessantly smiling, happy, upbeat megachurch pastor, he really does personify the anti-catholic rage of Calvin and Luther quite well. If this was 16th century Europe and he had an army to follow him, one could imagine him defiling and burning every single Catholic church he came across. Anyways, his time in this world is limited. We should pray for him.

Calvinists are predestined to be wrong. 😆

If you a Protestant and have been watching videos like this, don't wait until you are in your 60s or 70s before realizing you have been lied upon.

Protestants and people who reject or blaspheme against the Eucharist knowingly will be judged by the Lord very severely as they literally commit the very 1st commandment by denying and rejecting God. The devil did the same thing and that’s how he ended up in hell. The holy sacrifice of the Mass was instituted by Jesus himself at the Last Supper as the apostles were told to “do this in memory of me,” meaning “of Jesus.” Let’s all pray for the conversion of blasphemers and may they open their hearts to learn and accept the fullness of the truth.

The Mass is the Bible in action. As the son, grandson, nephew and cousin of sincere and faithful Baptist Pastors, I was a Baptist for more than 40 years. As I read the Church fathers on topics such as the Eucharist, the Papacy, the Church, the biblical canon, Mary or the Saints, among others, I became a Catholic. My wife and 21 old son also became Catholics.

Praying 🙏 for this Pastor Mc Arthur for enlightenment for the true teaching of Christianity .May he find peace in his heart in place of hatred …

St Paul warned us against receiving the Eucharist carelessly. “Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord.” Pretty serious warning for something that they say is symbolic.

Q: "IF" the mass is demonic, as MacArthur asserts, how come we never have Satanists attending? Not a hint of demons. No goat's heads, pentagrams... nothing.

Because they are trusting in their own wisdom.

99% of the words used in the Mass come from the Bible.

Calvinists get it wrong simply by being Calvinists.

They just need to look at Daniel 12:11 From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the desolating abomination is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. What daily sacrifice is this? Who else besides the Catholic Church has a daily sacrifice? Not Jews . Not Protestants. And it will take a miracle for Protestants Jews and Muslims to convert and admit they are wrong.

How do they get it so wrong? You have to understand the current status of many Protestant organizations as the end result of an evolutionary process: 1. To justify the ongoing existence of your organization, it must have a reason for not being Catholic; 2. Any person who isn't persuaded of the reasons your organization isn't Catholic will _leave_ that organization and become Catholic; 3. Over time, the persons who remain in your organization are self-selected to be persons who're most-persuaded of the reasons to not be Catholic; 4. A group of persons who're self-selected for not being Catholic will naturally live in an epistemic bubble, repetitively rehearsing to one-another their reasons for not being Catholic; 5. Over time, such a group gradually intensifies all the reasons why they, and the organization, aren't Catholic; 6. Anyone calling the reasons for not-being-Catholic _overly_ intense will strike existing members as having dubious loyalty to the group, and will be shuffled out of having teaching authority within the organization (even if they don't leave); 7. Rinse, repeat; rinse, repeat; rinse, repeat; rinse, repeat; rinse, repeat; rinse, repeat.... Through sheer organizational dynamics, we can _easily predict_ that any organization which drifts away from Catholic unity will latch on to any topic where Scripture or the Patristic Witness are ambiguous, announce their own view over-and-against the Catholic view, and describe the Catholic Church as "satanic" or "blasphemous" for not holding the schismatic group's view. This is predictable because it's how human organizations act, in an evolutionary way, to preserve the ongoing existence of the organization. It's why MacArthur says the stuff he says. It's why Luther called the pope the Antichrist. It's why Jack Chick had a career. It's why the non-Christian Jewish persons of the second century had to invent stories that Jesus' real father was a Roman soldier, or that the disciples stole the body. It's why Photius hurled such hilarious lists of accusations against the Church: Azymes and whatnot. Organizational dynamics predicts all these claims. It doesn't predict their specifics (that the Roman soldier would be named "Panthera," or that Photius would say it was evil for Latin-Rite clergy to not have beards!!!) but it predicts that the defenders of such organizations would hurl any-and-every illogical accusation at the Church hoping _something_ would stick, so as to justify the ongoing existence of the dissenter organization itself.

before hating the CATHOLIC CHURCH, know 1st the doctrine, the magisterium, the history. the theology, and etcetera etc etc

Pride. Envy. Hate. Simple.

Thanks for working so hard to defend the one and Holy Church at this day’s when people look so lost and confused.

Attending a Catholic Mass is like being invited to The Last Supper with Jesus and His apostles. Jesus said the first Mass and told them to continue it until He returns. When the Priest blesses the bread & wine, they transform into The Body & Blood of Jesus Christ; this is The Transubstantiation. This only occurs in a Catholic or Orthodox Mass. Receiving Jesus in Holy Communion is the most beautiful, powerful & intimate union we can have with Him while on earth. We become one with Him. Beautiful Faith! 1 Cor11:23-29,Jn 6:51-59

Jesus gave the Catholic Church the authority not some man years and years later...

I am only at 13:11 but it seems that Calvin believed that Jesus abandoned his church to Satan from an early stage a all Christians believed that the mass was a representation of the Sacrifice at Calvary. Odd given that Jesus promised the Church would prevail. Perhaps he did not believe in this promise of Jesus.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away ,and the abomination of desolation is set up there will be 1290 days ... What else could that daily sacrifice be ? Protestants arent aware through their real time ignorance that there is a mass being said every hour of everyday somewhere in the world. What theyre also ignorant of is how far the evangelicals and many protestants of today aren't anywhere near the Luthern church services of old.

Great job!! Keep on defending the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church!!

Yeah, it is quite a revelation once one explores the early church and actual church teachings. We believe as we were taught as was passed down to us by others before us. And so if I receive my teachings from those who maybe can only trace their beliefs back to about 500 years ago, I come up short and miss the truth.

Hey Kath, remember that most people that end up in church it was the tradition that they found themselves. Let us focus on showing the beauty and depth of Catholic and not being antagonistic towards them or blaming time. We are not against the protestants only the Protestantism.

Excellent!! Thanks for all the historical references. 👍🏻

Jesus said He’s the living bread, the bread He gives is His FLESH, unless we eat His Flesh & drink His Blood, WE WILL HAVE NO LIFE IN US.If we eat & drink of Him UNWORTHILY, WE WILL BE LIABLE & BRING A SENTENCE AGAINST OURSELVES FOR NOT DISCERNING IT TO BE THE BODY & BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR GOD & SAVIOR. Jn6:51-59, 1Cor 11:23-29 The Transubstantiation occurs only in a Catholic or Orthodox Mass. There are Eucharistic Miracles happening around the world. Pope Francis witnessed one when he was an Archbishop in Brazil. Scientific studies proved the Blessed Eucharist is LIVE human heart tissue from the left ventricle (responsible for pumping blood and life through our bodies). The studies show this tissue is from a man who suffered extreme torture.

The Last Supper = the first Holy Mass. The miracle of the loaves and fishes = the way The Blessed Sacrament is given by Heaven. Eucharistic Miracles = we receive the (scientifically verified) Heart Tissue of Our Lord Jesus Christ (carrying His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity). It’s John MacArthur who’s blind.

Thank you for this informative video. I like your style of teaching and appreciate that you ordinarily don’t like to make long videos. This was well worth the 40 minutes! I’ve seen the influence of John MacArthur in people who are now former Catholics. Makes me sad.

Hatred towards the Catholic Church is popular and peddling something that is popular is profitable. McArthur's love for money makes him wealthy but he will pay a terrible price for attacking God's Church. I hope he repents and God show him mercy.

Thank you for this lecture with explanations and references. It is useful to learn about all the misinformation as known by Protestants. The separated brethren have been told over and over again the correction. Wow, I really, really, really don't like quotes by John MacArthur or Jean Calvin. Very hurtful words!!! Sadly, fallen angels have filled their minds with wrongly thinking. The only thing a Protestant can do is fast and bring a lot of humility into their lives. Just so that their blindness is taken away... just long enough to read: John 6 Matthew 24 1 Peter 2 (or the whole letter!) Very nice set up to bring up the quotes next to you. Hopefully, reverts and converts see the truth. Read the Fathers of the Church = the Catholic Church. O Crux ave, spes unica, et Verbum caro factum est. Saludo a la Cruz, nuestra unica esperanza, y la Palabra se hizo carne. Hail to the Cross, our only hope, and the Word became flesh.

In short, it is the pride & disobedience of Protestantism that are the unseen stumbling blocks, “my way or the highway”

Mac Arthur has a video stating that the Eucharist is the source and summit of worship but it’s hard to get people to come to church for it… I was dumbfounded. He’s either stupid or a liar. I lean towards the latter.

John MacArthur is a wonderful Christian leader and was key to my love of the lord. However, he is wrong when he criticizes the Catholic Faith because he does it without love and charity, which robs him of the truth.

Calvinist thinking is one hudred per cent unbiblical.

Well it's good that these guys are being direct with their beliefs. Unlike so called progressive "Christians" who introduce false teaching in a more subtle manner. 10:33

Where the Bishop appears there let the people be. Just as where JESUS CHRIST IS there is THE CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH. St Ignatius of Antioch 107 AD. 📖🍞🍷✝️⛪️🔑🕊📝🫶🏻🙏🏻

We praise and worship our Lord God in our Mass, we offer the Lamb of God and eat His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. We read long verses from the Old Testament and the New Testament. And we hear from the lips of Jesus from the Gospel. The celebrants raises the Bible upon entering the church, kisses the Word of God, and lights up a candle when reading from the Word of God.

Catholic: “Luther and Calvin departed from the early Church and rejected the Eucharist as a Sacrifice” Protestant: “No they are reforming the Church to the beliefs of the early Church. That doctrine is not found in Scripture nor in the Fathers until 6th century” Catholic: (lists quotes from numerous Fathers in the first four centuries calling the Eucharist a “sacrifice” in the most Catholic way) Protestant: “…I don’t care what the Fathers say. I go by the Scripture” Catholic: “Then at least admit that the early Church is Catholic” They can’t do it. Because the moment they do, the complex doctrines on the diety of Christ, the two natures of Christ and the Trinity, which the Church clarified during this time, by many of the Fathers mentioned in this video, are thrown into question.

Beautiful, thank you for the explanation.

Interesting fact- the Protestants vehemently hated the TLM, not the NO so much. What does that say?

Awesome stuff,thank you ❤

Excellent video. Some great points from sources that many Catholic apologists miss. Well explained. During Calvin's time and Luther's, here was an irrational hatred of medieval philosophy and theology and a political agenda driving it and blinding them to sources such as these.

Loved this! ❤️💙

I love the fullness of the Church. Of all the Apostolic Churches ( Eastern & Oriental Orthodox and the Church of the East) only we encompass all Divine Liturgies and we have the choice of which Church Tradition we wish to follow. I myself am a Maronite.

Jesus Christ established His One Only True Apostolic Catholic Church, His Bride & Doctrine with His apostles, in 33AD, before His Passion. He appointed them leaders, Peter as Head, gave him His authority, power & Sacraments (The Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven). He taught and prayed for everyone to be His One True Church, receiving His Sacraments, Doctrine & Teaching or you DO NOT HAVE GOD. ALL 44,000 other Christian Churches, without Gods authority, broke away from His Church to start their own versions, like the Pharisees and Scribes did and God rebuked them for doing so. Mt 23:1-39, Lk 11:37-54, Jn 1:42, 21:15-17, Mt 16:18-19, 10:1-4, Mk3:14-19, Eph 2:19-22, 1 Cor 12:28, Acts 20:28, Lk 22:28-32, 1 Pet 2:6-9, Eph 5:22-33, Rev 22:17 Remain in His Catholic Church, Doctrine & Gospel-Jn 10:16, 17:20-26, Eph 4:4-6, 2 JN1:9, 2 Thess3:6-16, Rom16:17, Heb 13:9, Gal 1:6-9, 2 Cor 11:3-4 Sacraments-Jn 3:5, Act 22:16, 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 18:17-18, Jn 6:51-59, 1 Cor 11:23-29, Eph 1:13, 2Cor 1:21-22, Mt19:4-6, Col 3:17-19, 2Cor5:20, 1:25-29, Lk22:28-32, Jm 5:16, Lk10:34 are a few pertinent verses.

Thanks for a great explanation.

I don't agree with Calvinism on the whole but the particular brand that MacArthur proselytizes is Calvingelicaslism which itself is a novel doctrine that is wholly non-Apostolic and full of errors. It would make sense why he would attack the Church given his level of ignorance of Church history.

Please post references

without the eucharist it is not church. Jesus is present in the Eucharist

How are you going to start with Justin Martyr to make the case that the Eucharist was an acretion?

As a robust protestant, I agree with almost all of your criticisms, but it is a slight of hands to not also apply them to the Catholic Church, the practice of the Eucharist is not exactly homogenous through the ages in the Catholic Church.

Who started your church

ah, the Didache says the Eucharist is a sacrifice. But is it a 're-presentation' or a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving?

And it was

You missed Justin Martyr's first Apology, chapter 66 on the Eucharist. Also mentions Baptismal regeneration too. Mind you, I don't get how there can be any doubt from scripture alone. However to answer Calvin's false claims of what the Church Fathers said it is necessary to go back to the Church Fathers.

Of course they reject the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. In its essence it’s a rejection of Christ. Jesus told us “I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.” Mat16:18. Think about it what McArthur and every protestant teaches is that Satan prevailed over Jesus and his Catholic Church. Good luck it that.

You may like to produce a video on Protestant methodology contrasted with other methods to arrive at Catholic truth.

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I don't care what label people identifies themselves as,(catholic , protestant , baptist ,etc.) . If you do not know the Heavenly Father, and keep his commandments, & statuets laws , you will never understand Christ Jesus.... 1John 5: 7 --For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word , and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one.(8) And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit , and the water , and the blood, and these three agree in one.(9) If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.(10) He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself; he that believe not God hath made him a liar ; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.(11) And this is the record that God hath given to us eternal life; and this life is in his Son.. .... .... ...... Mortal man cannot give anyone eternal life. But mortal man can lead us to the pit of burning flames .......... Man cannot make moral , what the Heavenly Father has declared immoral , Even if sin is legalized, it is still sin in the eyes of the Heavenly Father........... So we children of the Heavenly Father, needs to choose between the doctrine of the Father , the Son , Christ Jesus, and the Holy Ghost; or mortal man's false doctrine . ....

The castle in your intro is the same castle I had seen in a dream coming on the clouds and there was huge stones like basketball size being hurled towards homes. But the same exact castle though.

The Catholic Church has the authority to

Of course it is not. Anyone who makes such accusations is sadly ignorant.

I wonder how this erudite speaker can justify the bizarre RCC bizarre edict Fiducia Suplicans?

Jesus say

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the Prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Thank you for this videos..... Unfortunately, at this point,I don't know your real name.

Are you talking about a gorgeous woman? I say that because all you said was beautiful. Keep 'em hot!

The common assertion is that everything was okay until Constantine created the Catholic Church.

I don't think the Mass is demonic - I do think the Mass suffers from taking a metaphor used by our Lord literally.

Calvinism is anti-Gospel. The best they could do when “witnessing” is tell a stranger “God might love you and He might have died for you.” Pure heresy.

No priests in the New Testament Church except Christ. That office of an unmarried man offering repeated sacrifices is unknown in the NT. There are elders, pastors, teachers, presbyters, even bishops depending on how you interpret the Greek - but no priests. They had to make it up.

Brace yourself! I admire your courage. Protestantism is the Christianity of the bible, i.e. the inspired Cliff's Notes of Christ. Would any of us face the university President while offering a doctrinal dissertation based only on the Cliff's Notes?

You need to study up

You are picking on low hanging fruit from John McArthur but do not take what some Protestants say about a sacrifice in the Eucharist. We don't say the mass is a propitiatory sacrifice but it is a sacrifice in some sense. What Protestants are saying is there is no propitiatory sacrifice in the mass which is why we appeal to Christ's once for all sacrifice. Check out at least the Lutheran view with Dr Coopers site Just and Sinner.

MacArthur is a decent and brave pastor, I have to admit it. But lacks a normal thinking brain and common sense and logic. If you add hate and malicious talk agaist the catholic faith, all the above virtues become evil and trash. John MacArthur is very wrong and ignorant.

2:22 the cross is not a sign,cursed is he that hangs on a tree.what about the brass serpent ,it became a idol and was smashed by was it.Hezekiah. you overlooked the main event at Gethsemane, without that event no Calvary no Pentecost.

What kind of Christian prayer of any church is demonic?🤦‍♂️ Disqualifying the speaker by saying it. That person has no clue about Jesus. Calling the work of the Spirit which prayer is per St Paul is the unforgivable sin against the Spirit that Jesus cites precisely as his exorcisms are ascribed to Satan by his opponents. Repent. Please

This isn't even debatable the evidence biblically and historically that the Eucharist is literally the body of Christ is overwhelming.

Demonic indeed

MacArthur is not a calvinist

I cut out after 1 min. As an old dog catholic I’m sick to my stomach of filling up with Protestants and non Christians telling me about what I should think of the mass and Holy Eucharist. It’s mostly vomit time listening to this junk. Sorry. I’ve had it. Going to bed now.

My King James Bible is crystal clear about this issue. Temple worship and sacrifice were totally abolished along with the priesthood at Calvary. Hebrews chapters 7-10 KJV. Your words are empty when you quote from documents produced by heretics in the 20th century. Blood drinking is forbidden by Almighty God. Before the law : Genesis 9 : 4-5 KJV. During the Law : Leviticus 17 : 10-14 KJV. The Church age : Acts 15 : 29 KJV. Your DR book agrees. To continue with the satanic ritual of transubstantiation confines people to hell. There was ONE SACRIFICE for all. Hebrews 7 : 26-27, 9 : 26-28, 10 : 10-14, 1 Peter 3 : 18 KJV. You defy the words of Almighty God. Get out and get saved. Revelation 18 : 4 et al. KJV.

How about sharing what the accepted New Testament writers say. Protestants only refer to the claims of this set of books. The Didache is an important set of writings, but unfortunately it is not accepted Scripture and it is not the initial hurdle that Protestants face when discussing the Sacrifice of the Eucharist. I don’t see how you will persuade a Protestant if your evidences are outside of the accepted scriptures. The very same collection that we claim that we originally gave to the church.

You confuse reformed with protestant.

In all Catholic churches, you will see a dead Jesus nailed to the cross forever. The Catholic Mass is a celebration of the suffering and death of Jesus. In a Protestant church, you will see only an empty cross. Protestants believe that Jesus suffered and died on the cross ONCE and then rose from the dead and is very much alive.