ISTPs ONLY care about the people they like! Also ISTP has lots of internal conflicts. Like ISTP wants to help people, but at the same time they "stupid zone" a lot of people. ISTP wants to feel liked by people, but at the same they dislike most people and mess up on social situations by not careing and usually beeing a brick wall emotionally. However ISTP can however NOT be emotionally manipulated by people they have "stupid zoned!" or otherwise dislike. One would have to be liked first to manipulate ISTP emotionally. - ISTP
ESTP:That potty mouth mayor that brings order to the city, without showing no mercy to undesirables. ISTP:The vigilante that has been doing contract killings with swift justice by orders of the ESTP mayor.
Im a female ISTP and I strugle with communication with others. I think that ISTP personality is great and liked in men, not so much in women, where being critical and arguiing are not seen as feminine qualites, but more like a pain in the ass.... If you could talk about ISTP women. Gracias :)
7:34 my dad was an ISTP. He came across as so arrogant and always told people what they should do all the time.And he always thought he knew more than everybody. He was a star worker, too. Outworked everyone.
the main difference i see between me and my etsp friend: i'm sitting there thinking about doing something, but she actually does it. somebody tells me what i should do, and i'm thinking "dream on" while she says "keep dreaming" out loud to their face. maybe i already made this same comment a month ago but forgot lol
As an ISTJ woman who was married to an ESTP for 20 years and is currently dating an ISTP I can say you are brilliantly spot on, C.S. Joseph!! Again!! :-)
So there’s a huge difference between “remembering everything” like an ISTP, and an ISTP being forgetful. In the case of a movie, for example: An ISTP is going to remember the overarching plot and maybe spoil something that you forgot; but they’re not going be able to recite the dialogue scene by scene (unless they have a really motivating reason to).
Exactly, but that does not mean the movies are bad, thats why it takes time to entp for choosing any movie cz entp will be remembering 60% concept of that movie and some how connecting those lines while talking with people...i found it refreshing while making people felt good in that way just by talking...❤
That part where you were talking about how ISTPs have poor memories and only remember what they think is important made me laugh because I just had an argument with my sister the other day where she was trying to tell me my memory was as bad as hers and I was being stubborn and telling her that my memory was a lot better than hers, but then she pulled up a whole list of times I forgot something and I was forced to admit that my memory was bad. To save face, I said "why would I want to remember something if it's not important to me?"
The part of this that was 100% right for me (ISTP) was when you said that ISTPs essentially live by the motto "If you want something done right, do it yourself". YES. 1000x yes! I have uttered this phrase sooo many times. This is such a problem any time I have to "teach" anyone (like, my children for example) how to do something. I really, really have to try to resist the urge to be like, "you're doing it wrong. Here, I'll just do it myself." lol I guess I'm better at teaching by showing/doing, rather than teaching by describing. Funny you should say that spouses of ISTPs should make a record of every time they forget something. I actually have a file on my computer recording every time my husband (INTJ) admits he was wrong about something, hahaha.
Tbh you did really hit the spot on istps I had difficult time actually relating to istps as an istp myself due to the fact that I was trapped inside my toxic mom's actions . Only recently I started to realize how much time it costed from being myself, although I am still not sure cause I am in the transition of redeeming myself (aka:my personality), but as further I dive into myself I find that I can relate more to istps than I thought.
ISTP - I do think that the easiest way to manipulate me is through others feelings, but if people do that to you for years... by now I notice it, and it still sucks to just ignore people but i do. And since i do it on purpose i actually had positive progress with my own life.
my dad forgets everything!! and hes always like "what you never told me that" and gets defensive when you hit him in that blind spot. Its actually kind of funny lmao. Great video as always. Love learning from you
Thanks for this video! Helped me finally realize that I am an ESTP after all, even though I am not your typical extroverted person... But I definitely base my wants on what others are doing and have a huge failure to launch syndrome, just stuck calculating what would work best for me 😅
I'm a stuck istp.and I'm very melancholy right now but yesterday I was very joyfull cuz I was in nature this is spot on. And most rollercoasters are boring
Wow this was really interesting and on-point. My old ISTP friend just called the other day. He's living on the streets, a brilliant successful guy who has just deconstructed. I'm ESTP and would definitely be go full debauchery. Yes, ESTPs love stimulants. Love being able to switch on the TE, get super decisive, and get shit done.
Awesome point about feeding children drugs to get them to conform to "proper" behavior. I think substance abuse in general is due to people not understanding their personality type because they have be taught by society that their personality type is not valued. As a result they have to use substances to suppress who they are. The result is a malformed adult. A constant cycle of rinse and repeat. Are there any studies that have been done with children who are taught specifically according to their personality types? This subject intrigues me because I am convinced we have generations of very intelligent people that are wasting their lives because they have been basically railroad by the education system due to their "undesirable" personality types.
Hah. I am ISTP. Must be why I literally cant remember any movie ever. I remember if I enjoyed it, or if was good or not, But I will not remember what happened. My boyfriend gives me shit because I will swear up and down that I have not seen this movie, and he will look at me like I'm crazy and be like... we watched this together like not even that long ago. Ive always told him that my brain doesnt hold onto stuff that is deemed unimportant because it saves space for the important stuff. Guess I was right.
Ha I relate as an ISTP, however when my wife puts on a movie that she claims I seen already then my mind quickly grabs hold all of the details just before the actual scene 😅
No, istp can remember large amount of information in a best analytical way, their ti se ni (all three are memory functions) followed by si 6th But estp cares people n they dont have that ti ego, n they know their weakness so they are eventually get over it unlike loner type istp (fe almost inferior) Fe is actually sharpens ti logic So eventually istps ti gets lower
Okay, thank you for reassuring me the the truth that nobody even I would believe to be true, I'M AN ESTP... Syndrome Fail to Launch, I am like jumping 100 times from one thing to another, without knowing what the hell I want... Another thing that helped me see myself as ESTP is that looking at my past, I look it through logic lents, like what I could have done better and what not, not feelings senses or whatever... Another big for me is that you cannot convince me of something unless you show me people that have done that or are doing it. And that's only in 11 minutes, let's keep watching.
I'm an istp who doesn't know what I want to do with my life, I don't know what i like care about anymore. I am going through chronic deppressing so I doubt I'm am an Estp.
Shadow Si would be something like looking back on your childhood and wishing more and more the older you get that you could go back in time and do it all over again just so you can enjoy being a kid again and lamenting the fact that you can't, eh?
I used to be against asking for help until I realized how awesome it is to get people to do stuff for you haha 😎 You just gotta make things as clear as possible... or lower your expectations.
Your boss and grandpa sure are cool dudes :D. Love the anecdotes and literal "quotes". You have great storytelling skills. And I'm massively forgetful, no contest, there...
@@greekrapindustry ESTPS GET ALONG WITH ISTPS ON A SUPERFICIAL LEVEL. LIKE TWO PSYCHOPATH NARCISSISTS LOVEBOMBING EACH OTHER. Psychopaths think they are wonderful and so do ISTPS AND ESTPS. My toxic ESTP mom got along with my toxic ISTP former boyfriend. They shared their sarcasm and critism of me being too sensitive.
That resonates with me. My ISTP brother always knows what he wants. Look at the pic, that’s me at the top of the mountain wondering where to go next...
I took one of those free Myers Briggs tests online and I was very decisively STP, but almost 50/50 between introversion and extroversion, edging slightly into ESTP. With a margin of error, I still could be either. So this is a great video. Thanks! I just watched the part about “If you’re unsure of what you want vs always get what you want,” I can relate to both. I didn’t know why I wanted as far as relationships went for a long time, but got married eventually (still realizing the cognitive dissonance didn’t go away with it). I didn’t know what I wanted to do for the longest time and didn’t set out a defined career path early on. I’ve jumped around trying to find my niche. I’ve always been entrepreneurially minded for the freedom aspect. Then I went back to school to maybe look at the safe career path. Got my MBA. It only reinforced that typical corporate jobs sucked and I had to be an entrepreneur. The last 4 or so years I was focused on finding the right business. I jumped through all the hoops to get it, but I bought a business and it’s going great, and I also started another business that is turning into a success, growing like a wildfire. But that’s the vision and executing that vision coming into play. Perhaps I’m realizing that I’m dealing with the pros and cons of both, and learning how to structure my life in a way that my specific personality can see some success.
OH MY GOD. I sat down and used the type grid with my mom (and gave her the MBTI) and found out she's actually an ESTP (not an ENFP like me or ESFP as I thought) and my dad is an ISTP (not an ESTP). Not sure how to feel about this, but I'm glad I finally got that figured out. Ugh time to share some more ancient lectures heh.
Absolutely incredible! I don't know whether to be irritated by your repetitive critiques of other ISTPs or to admire your observations and appreciation for what ISTPs do offer. I can't imagine you getting "stupid zoned," by any rational person, but it may be because you just use your intelligence differently and you ENTPs tend to be so obsessed with the theoretical while not seeing what's right in front of you. For me personally, I don't think that people are stupid per se, they are just too often misinformed and seemingly okay with it, and some have the nerve to think they're actually right and debate with us. There just has to be an insightful ISTP around for every situation that requires a lot of cause and effect decisions or the world just may get blown up. I don't trust others to really think things through especially when their actions affect me, but I wouldn't say they're stupid. Just many times, arrogantly wrong. Can you blame me?
@@cherishtheday2223 I was one of his first viewer and commenters. I dived more into socionics and CSJ came up with his own ideology. I believe he’s horribly wrong. However, I still respect him. He has enlightened me at that point in time.
Thank you chase. You have helped me so much. I’ve learned so much about myself with these videos. It really shines the light on a few of my tendencies. I do quit and get rid of everything and start over. It happens in 6 month cycles. I never looked at it like that. Thank you.
I'm an ISTP and one of my sisters married an ESTP. We don't get along at all. We are committed to supporting each other as members of the family, but don't try and get us to hang out.
Could I be an ESTP with social anxiety? I really identify with all the points you made about ESTPs, but I can't get past the fact that I'm far from extroverted (although I care a lot about what other people think). Se is the function I've always related to most and I don't really see Ti as being my dominant function. As a kid I was very talkative and loved being the center of attention (and still do around friends/family), so maybe I've been an extrovert all along?
EmRose1296 you might be an INFJ. EJ Arandee Who used to be on RU-vid talking about MBTI is an INFJ who thought he was an ESTP. It’s because the ESTP is the subconscious of the INFJ.
I personally don't believe ESTPs experience any anxiety except when they are finally getting caught by the cops and have to do some verbal fancy footwork, haha.
@U S A we do feel anxiety. When were forced to make un-informed decisions and potentially ruin our entire lives, we panic. We also freeze in the absence of proper guidance (again going back to handling a problem or project we just have no clue how to deal) well legit just freeze, or ask someone else what they think and rip off their idea juat to get the heat off.
All of the tests I've taken tell me I'm an ISTP but I am almost incapable of making decisions, I am extremely uncertain of myself and my decisions. I am Indecision and over-analyzing personified. I always fail to launch my projects because I cannot tell if I actually want to do something or not. I just don't know. "Do I really want this?". On the flip side, the very few times I've managed to set my mind on something I am in it 120%. I am obsessed with it and nothing else matters than me completing my goal. Unforunately I never feel so strongly about anything more than once every few years. The rest is just full of indecision. Am I a different type? I(47%) S(1%) T(9%) P(6%)
@@CSJoseph very similar with me but I know what I want to do - I want to create something that matters. Something that can change the world. I fail to start because of two reasons - 1. I keep on finding new information to fit the model in my head to it's maximum efficiency and realize there is not enough I can do even tho I have no problem creating new tools to help me in the building process 2. After analyzing in my head I find the idea is not grand enough or it's not gonna have impact on maximum population on earth Other than that I create new tools or efficient/simpler versions of existing tools (mostly softwares) all the time but doesn't satisfy my "soul" (whatever that is). I want to create the grand tool Pls bro help me find my type. And also I can relate to most 16 types.wtf I'm
7:07 I saw an interview from an early days psychologist that had dealt with an INFP patient who suffered a mental break and paranoia from a Te dominant job and the “doctor” just tried to get him back to work as soon as possible. The worst thing you can do to an INFP is take away their originality (Fi and Ne), and turn them into just a cog of the corporate machine.
I'm an ISTP and my brother is a ESTP. I always said hes me with even less limitations. But if I didn't have my dogs and responsibilities I would be crazy like him
Now that I’ve watched more of the video, I realized that what you’re saying is true. I tend to remember really well things that are important to me, but when it comes to birthdates and holidays, not so much.
INTJ here with actual ADD :' )) I'm taking Lisdexamfetamine and it's actually helping. Ritalin did nothing to me, though. Also, my brother is a ISTP. Really hard to have fluid conversations with him. He's really helpful with stuff as building pc, car things and electrician work. I could tell he's pretty caring towards me, but he's definitely not a person looking for harmony xD
Why is the superego of ISTP so accurate with what I felt like doing when I got sad for whatever reason (probably felling trapped or without enough freedom)?
I keep wondering if am I really ISTP cause I know Im forgetful af but I cant forget stupid/embarrassing shit happened to me. I also reminisce my childhood and try to relive/replicate them in the present cause theyre the best time of my life. I do have Stupid Zone for people but I dont wanna look like a heartless jackass (so I try to hide the fact) and feel a bit guilty for having Stupid Zone. I am indeed weak against hearts game (guilt tripping) but theres also curiosity involve to see what people are capable of and/or how far they can go manipulating me. I forgot what are the rest I was gonna point out so let me rewatch it the third time PS. Your ISTP boss cracked me the fuck up. Helpful video
I know this sounds like BS but sry that's the way it is: " I was an ISTP for decades. then I started working on confidence, self-worth, and masculinity in general; and Now I'm getting ESTP in test results ". I think working on your weaknesses and boosting the confidence had blurred the lines so hard, that I can just call myself an "STP"; to be accurate.
Part about ISTP's memory it totally true. I've watched lots of your videos here on YT, really understood them while watching, but then i have been always forgetting (sorry i don't know how to write this im not native ) what you were talking about lol Thats why I have to watch them 2-3 times with interval in a few days or weeks , in this case there are higher chances that i can remember something. Fellow ISTP's, do you have any tips how to improve memory?
I'm really trying to figure out who I am. I've taken the tests and I keep coming up as ISTP. There's a lot that I think describes me but there are things about ISTP that I feel I don't really relate to. This video is convincing me that I might be more of an ESTP. So I'm still not sure. I still don't know who I am but I think I'm getting there. Thank you for these videos
Download the free type grid companion at csjoseph.life and work through that, you'll get your answer. Or if you're impatient you can always get a 15 min typing session.
Try looking at what you struggle with more so than your strengths and it will definitely be easier if you haven't already. ESTP's can definitely take on a I don't care type of feel like ISTP's but you and most close other's around will really know what your real struggles are if focused enough on it and call you out on it (immediately). As far as strengths goes ESTP's (act 1st and analyze actions afterwards) whereas ISTP's analyze 1st than act soon after "most of the time". Most people get confused cause ISTP's seem action first as well but we're not. Most cases if you caught me in action is because the thought process already happened however how long ago. Sounds the same but it's not I assure you. Disrespect my cousin (ESTP) and you're most likely will get danced on but disrespect me and I'll have some fun with you (verbally) with the goal of making you feel stupid before ever deciding to dance... unless I must than no problem, hope this helped.
This is all pretty fucking accurate but the only thing I disagree with as an ISTP is the mentorship thing, I do love mentoring people and coaching them about stuff that I myself mastered, it's one of the things that brings me the most satisfaction in life but I disagree with the fact that we like mentoring a group of people at once, I'd rather mentor people one by one. Focus on one person, and make them extremely good at that one skill. Rather than focusing on lot of people at the same time and risking having no one of them reaching the status of true mastery. It's just not efficient enough in my book, therefore it's not something I'd be interested to do. I believe ISTPs see mentorship the same way as polishing a sword. An ISTP would rather have one sword that is super extra sharp and efficient than multiple swords that are only average performance wise. The saying "Quality over quantity" probably originated from an ISTP.
I’m an ISTP and sometimes people try bringing up something that they think I missed or forgot, but really it’s just it wasn’t important enough or had no significance or benefits in said task, so I’m like thank but no thanks
I really don't know why you put so much spot on stp being forgetful and doesn't want to admit it. I have never claimed I am not, in fact me and my friends always make jokes on my account how I don't remember anything 😂
Plus I am a female so for us is kinda expected to pay attention and to remember everything. Many new people I meet are always so insulted by this with no reason. They can see on my actions I value them (like always wanting to hang out and going everywhere with them) so if they can't understand people are different and get past themselves then in fact they start to annoy me and I usually cut bonds with them. Man I don't even remember important stuff for myself, wtf. People's narrow-mindedness and stubbornness have always annoyed me THE MOST. Btw after all I said can you tell am I istp or estp, because I don't know either?
Ok after watching video and explanation about failure to launch syndrome I guessed I am definitely an ESTP 💪🏻🦸🏼♀️but then I have that precision with craft and thought no one can do it better bc they can't, like ISPT. I am gonna go crazy
Im an ISTP but do have pretty strong morals although others might view my actions as questionable at times. My father was an ESTP and my daughter as well yet he didn't like to leave the house and was pretty much like Jack Nicholsons double in every sense and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree there. Can an extroverted type be introverted?
I am ENFP and if I remember correctly, is considered the most introverted of the extrovert types. One good way I can tell that I still an extrovert but sometimes feel like an introvert is that I generally enjoy being an extrovert, my introversion tendencies only show when someone more extroverted than I am overwhelms me too much, then I could use some alone time or space.
I highly doubt people from 3rd world countries are happier. I say this as someone from a 3rd world country. Yeah, some statistics might show that first world countries have higher rates of depression, but that’s because mental illness is far less underreported and, in most cases, shunned by third world societies
People in third world countries have more valid concerns and don't have time to obsess about how much cellulite their thighs have. Westerners have gotten too comfortable and when all of your basic needs are met, your mind travels elsewhere.
Most of my family call me an introvert because I keep to myself so much and I can be very quiet while watching the room. Really though, they are all crazy SJ’s and I am trying to get away from their toxic controlling behavior in my life. I think the big problem in my life is that I’m terrified of making a choice and I’m terrified of making a bad choice. Definitely finding the ESTP description relatable, however, I’m not athletic and I spend most of my time gathering information. Is that Se? I’m in between friend groups right now and since I don’t have anyone to hang out with I just want to gather info, hence my mbti addiction. I make decisions with logic and I thrive at debate but I hate abstract discussions that don’t lead anywhere. Which function am I falling into there? I know the ISTJs gather info too but I’m not controlling and I am strongly against being controlled or told what to do. Thank you, your videos are very helpful!
ESTP here with SJ parents. You sound young. Moving out will be liberating. Just do stuff you want to do, take some risks, but watch out for the self-destructive impulse. Use that Se, but your Ti will keep an eye on the exit so when the fight breaks out, you know where the escape is. When the cops show up, you're outside watching the shitshow and feeling good about you ESTP competence. Sound like a plan?
I have a brain like a sieve and it's easier to make a decision when it's one I've already made before than it is to come up with a new decision for something as simple as "what to eat". Or copy what someone else did than think up my own way of doing something. Also. ESTP nightmares: going to a huge buffet where all the plates are little pie plates, and you're only alloted a short amount of time to eat there.
its weird because i read out a summary of the communication styles to my brother and he related the most to finisher, hes deeefinitely direct and when i asked questions leading to control/movement he answered in favour of movement?? but ive always thought he was an estp (although could be istp) and from this video, although i havent watched all of it yet, he still seems like an estp so far... and while hes not the most extraverted, he seems initiating? or at the very least responding with no problem initiating... so confusing jdjdjjs ill see what i think after finishing the video though
Wow [10:05] interesting because even though I’m an estp, excuse my language but IDGAFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu** what other people are believing is true or what they think.. I will always pick everything apart, and get to the root even though it takes longer and means I stop listening to someone’s lecture to make sure they aren’t BSing me weather or not they realize they’re wrong. I also have to give it a test run before I believe it
I know an STP that gets annoyed with me when I delay meeting up with him due to helping someone out with something or some type of inconvenience. When I explain to him what happens he sometimes shows me that he's annoyed by saying "I was waiting for you" and hell either get over it and we'll hang out or hell mention it again later. Why does he do this at times and how should I do in response?
O my u mentioned the Istp *stupid zone* XD i have had several people in that, but i dun walk around thinking am smart '-', i like to think *o yea i do have a reasonable amount of knowledge in a particular subject*. Also brilliant video
I'm a bit confused at @20:58 🤔 Isn't the ESTP considered mentoring one to many as well because they want to spread their INFJ message to their wolf pack?
I have a question Inferior Fe means you're insecure about what people feel Inferior Te means you're insecure about what people think Inferioe Se means you're insecure about the experience you're giving to other But still i can't know the difference, i know i'm insecure as hell but how do i know what i'm worrying about is the feeling, the thinking or the experience i'm giving?
What about Si inferior as being insecure over doing things you have never done before? Se inferior is also like performance anxiety. This is why Se inferiors learn to drive later than the other 16 types. Have you looked at the interaction styles and your temperament yet?
Yes i have watched them multiple times and i'm sure i'm an introverted intellectual INTX but don't know about the right Interaction style I thought i was an INTJ because of my obvious Te/Fi functions, but then i remarked that i don't always finish what i start (for example i start writing a story and i'm super happy then i leave it unfinished just bcz i don't see the purpose of it) and i don't have this Ni will power which tell me what i want. I don't know if i'm still young to know with certainty what i want
Chase, is it possible that a person lives not in his ego? Maybe he thinks he ought to live in a certain way therefore lives as his shadow/subconscious/superego for a long period of time. And so he doesn’t know himself entirely much like an identity crisis?
istp or estp to sruive be hacker msuggler lcoksmith or freegan.......... or do oodd jobs in shanghai be a food delivery person or help smuggle cargo!!!!!! or collect cigarette butts or exchange trash or collect newspapers for money or sell newspapers for money. anything that makes money.
Wow, I really dont know which type I am but I used to take some AHDH drugs because I have narcolepsy (yes, It is completely differnt from AHDH, but it helped me staying awake) and I completely felt like an ISTJ. It would be interesting to research about it, because It happened also to some friends that take that drug.
I wasn't sure if I was an estp or an istp but thanks to this i'm %100 sure that i'm estp. though I didn't think there could be quiet estps. maybe I just haven't matured yet? I'm only 23 though so it could make sense
C.S. Joseph could you elaborate on that a little bit more? Like what made you come to that conclusion? Because I’ve recent got really interested in to this whole typing thing. In hopes that I could better understand what makes me tick, try to develop myself and possibly others
7:20 Third worlder ISTP here, I'd get that momentary satisfaction of the first worlds than being kept in fake hope anyday... 11:24 Alright, guess I'm an ESTP from now on...
I have the failure to launch syndrome. But once I start my mind won't allow me to rest until I finish. Sometimes i continuously spend 16-18 hours a day working on stuff till I feel panic. Regarding the building process I build as I go. I quickly learn a new skill to implement the idea or end goal I want to achieve. And if not used for long I tend to forget skills.(kinda jack of all trades master of none) I know what I want to do - I want to create something that matters. Something that can change the world. I fail to start because of two reasons - 1. I keep on finding new information to fit the model in my head to it's maximum efficiency and realize there is not enough I can do even tho I have no problem creating new tools to help me in the building process 2. After analyzing in my head I find the idea is not grand enough or it's not gonna have impact on maximum population on earth Other than that I create new tools or efficient/simpler versions of existing tools (mostly softwares) all the time but doesn't satisfy my "soul" (whatever that is). I want to create the grand tool Pls bro help me find my type. And also I can relate to most 16 types. I'm tired of analyzing my type over and over again. I need to come to a conclusion which doesn't fckin change whenever I watch a new cs Joseph video. I also had a very traumatic childhood+boyhood with strict parenting and emotional abuse. $20(sorry I'm broke) for anyone accurately typing me with details like what's my ego, shadow etc and how do I know if I'm living in hero or stuck in super ego etc. Thanks
Just wondering but would you say that sensors have better memories than NF types because when I hang around NF types they never can remember an event accurately
NfF with Si have good long term memory and NFs with Se have very good short term memory. NFps are more about belief > facts but have better long term memory. NFjs are the opposite. I hope that helps you.
