I am suffering from depression, anxiety and fear from last ten years. Nobody understood what was happening to me and the one advice I always got was to ignore it and engage myself in some activity so I can stay busy and occupied. People thinks it's easy but the truth is your feelings especially your depression, anxiety and fear is so powerful that you just can't ignore. Ignoring it will lead to it's suppression and anything that's repressed forcefully will take it's revenge. Even meditating and trying to stay present in midst of depression is also a kind of repression where you try to be aware by avoiding to feel your feelings fully. I loved what Rupert said. I have watched his past videos on fear and depression and the approach he suggested worked beautifully for me. I feel more alive and joyful when I sit with depression and fear and feel it fully not trying to get rid of it but embracing it wholeheartedly. Thanks Rupert!
You wouldn't wanna ignore your depression, anxiety and fear either. The moment you embrace it, it becomes your best friend. It transforms it too. Depression is the energy of suppression, acceptance transforms it. Its like if youd been holding your breathe and you feel suffocated. Ignoring the feeling of suffocation isnt the solution. Breathing is. Acceptance is like the oxygen that the depression needs to heal
Same here. The approach given by Rupert is beautiful. But question arises: Does taking medicine mean avoiding and suppressing depression? For me it feels it does, because medicine shuts down all uncomfortable feeling and calm the mind, whereas what Rupert advises to embrace the depression.
The concept of "pain body" in Eckhart Tolle books has helped me a lot with some aspects of depression. There's a feeling in the chest, a physical feeling, suffering, and when I focus on it, and feel it as is, out of context of depression, it fades away like ice melting in wate, and surprisingly, a good feeling replaces it. Depression has many dimensions, and I think it requires working on all those dimensions. What makes it hard is that depression lies, it distortes reality, to keep you from trying, you should know that it's just depression, it's not misery.
Thank you for sharing your heart Jim. As someone who is on a very deep healing Journey, clearing ancient traumas, what I am about to say has been my experience. These traumas are buried deep in the unconscious and all of these practices are so very helpful on the journey to joy and happiness. For me, attempting to use only these practices to heal those deep wounds was not enough. I had to go deeper inside, with the help of a wise counsel, who understood the trauma and the unconscious in a way that could help me unearth that which terrified me, that which angered me, that which caused my sadness and pain. An important point that Rupert and other wise teachers and beloved friends have said, is that we must not resist what is present and because these wounds are so deep it is great wisdom to be with a wise counsel, trained therapist for example, who can bring some light to what is going on and help us release our resistance and feel the wounding that occurred. As I go through this process, there is a natural awakening happening where peace and joy emerge. Then there will be another wave of unrest in my heart and so this obstacle is here to be seen, felt, and allowed to dissolve in love. It is a deep and honorable journey to come to the light by acknowledging and honoring the release of the darkness. May the words I have spoken touch you gently and be helpful. Many blessings to you on your journey.
Your comment made me think that the waves of unrest or dark nights of the soul often happen during the healing process when stuff comes to the surface to be felt and released. Most of the time the more that gets healed the less intense the unrest or the dark period is whenever next it emerges. When everything gets healed then there is only peace and joy and permanent freedom from suffering.
@@brianlittrell797 beautiful comment. But, how to heal those "traumas" by ourselves ?? I cannot take help of someone because it didn't help me in past. Can I do this myself ?
@@Gaurav.P0 I'm fairly certain that meditation can over time heal all trauma and negativity. 1) You can check out the youtube channel "Being Integrated" and look through all his videos. 2)You can also look through the videos on "Therapy In A Nutshell" and search for her videos on how to effectively deal with trauma. 3)"Christina Lopes" has a video on her channel that addresses how to heal trauma so you can look through her videos until you find it. She also has a video on energy healing so you can listen to those two videos. 4)I know from personal experience Yoga Nidra guided meditations on youtube can be very healing and powerful. The longer ones are better than the shorter ones as they take you deeper. Saying you cannot take the help of someone because it didn't help you in the past sounds like you are living in fear instead of being open. Being open and letting go of fear is an important part of healing. It usually takes courage and consistency to heal trauma. Sometimes the best way to heal is to utilize the help of a good healer. 5) Peter Levin's methods of healing trauma have worked for many people. Somatic experiencing I believe it is called. My advice is to try all of the above practices. Perhaps using the Being Integrated meditation practices as a consistent practice. And combining that with Christina Lopes's healing approaches in those two videos. The Yoga Nidra is really helpful to me in putting me in a good state. Hope that helps. I wish you the best.
I totally agree with you. What I've felt after a long time of suffering childhood trauma was, that there are reasons for my pain, my suffering, my being lost. I clearly say my and I see it personal, in this state I'm at the moment. There are reasons why you are depressed, and I think it is very important to face them. Not in a way to adress guilt or something. But to see clearly, I'm not wrong. My feelings are not wrong. I'm a sensitive being and I have my own needs. I really love Rupert and his teachings, they help me a lot. I also know in my case, I also need a more personal approach to my wounds right now. I feel that I first have to meet my needs as a person. That I'm worthy and loveable without proving it. I need first to accept myself clearly as the "person" in this "life". Everything else was a bypassing for me, as a means of ending suffering. I have a wonderful trauma therapist, she supports me a lot. And I have a bunch of loving people in my life. I think maybe when I can trust me, the life I'm in, I can go the next step towards letting it all go, knowing, all is one, all is connected. Stay Safe. ❤️
Hi Jim. For people like us who have unearthed such deep traumas, loving our wounds is a huge part of the healing process. Rupert makes a really good association with a child. I would say allowing all those feelings to emerge and really spending quality time with them is nothing short of reliving your childhood, with yourself as the child as well as the loving adult. When I first experienced depression, my body intuitively started to do loving things: loving self-touch, loving self-talk. I became my own mother, my lover, my therapist, my best friend, and all those people I needed love from and didn't receive it (in the way my wounded mind/heart needed it). By spending time with my depression, I have come to understand that I often related from that trauma. Recognising this has helped me slowly discern those behaviours/ thought patterns/ perceptions that stem from the trauma and may really have nothing to do with reality. Based on my experience alone, I would say none of this can be "taught". It has to be lived, experienced, felt and loved. I wish you all the best, Jim. Love yourself. Make that your full time job.🙏❤️🌲☮️
Right there with ya Jim, and I guess out of intuition I did the exact thing Rupert suggested. Once I saw my depression as a group of stinking thinking and that it wasn’t personal, I found the feeling of depression very very interesting. Like, what’s going on, Depression? Whatcha up to in there? The interest slowly gave way to love because it was something I was intimately aware of.
Dear Jim, you cant embrace what you dont like to change it. If you can really feel it, and remember that if you dont get attached to those feelings and realise that it should last no longer than 90 seconds, it changes..
A good technique suggested to me was to put the depression across the room, or the city, or the country. To welcome it entirely in one step may lead to feeling overwhelmed. Work slowly. Softly, in the spirit of love. Tenderly. It takes time, a long time maybe. It unfolds slowly. Insights often follow. Let it in, then let it be. Slowly. Stop before it overtakes. Your learning how to work with yourself.
@Redford Kobayashi chronically depressed person here. it does help me to not identify with it and to see myself (awareness) as the space in which it appears instead of a signal of my worth, worldview, etc
The way that worked for me when sadness hit was imagining a sad child I hug and give love to. I’m very happy to find out that it is not just my imagination. I found both guidance and confirmation in sir Rupert’s videos. Thank you and blessings to everyone!
Wow ✨ As a psychotherapist myself, I recently came to the (full and deep) understanding that you have to embrace your emotions and your trauma first, before you can let go. Those themes and experiences want to be seen and in a way appreciated, only when they are experienced fully they can dissolve. You got to find your peace with everything that is, you got to respect yourself and all aspects of your experiences. Most in the way of that deep acceptance is shame.
LOVE this! How simple! I tried it immediately and felt wrapped in love and got shivers all over - something definitely already shifted. Thank you, dear Rupert and Jim.
I’m right here. Have given up on life as it just took over and Rupert is correct, it does feel much bigger than anything else and I can’t get away from it. I’ll do what he suggests. Thanks Rupert.
Yeah! I definitely get depressed and totally think one should just take it in and work around it. It is just yet another object of awareness. I really think Rupert Spira just has it going on so good and talks about our experience of reality so clearly.
I entered into a 12 step depressed anonymous program to help me to deal with my depression as well as practicing mindfulness there was so much ruminating about my past history story as well I became addicted to saddening myself when I realized the I of I Am was not my story everything help me to let go and let my true nature shine forth which I am so forever grateful for and all of these helpful videos from Rupert as well as a few others.
I worked through the depression and anxiety caused by long-term trauma and ancestral trauma by chanting the mantra of Green Tara, Mother of the Buddhas - Om Tare Tuttare Ture Soha. This practice gave me the clarity to see it, the courage the face it and the gentleness to grieve and transform it. 10 minutes a day, no complicated thinking.
@@brianlittrell797 There are lots of videos on here with the pronunciation. The repeated T sounds, tapping on the roof of the mouth behind the top teeth is an integral part of this mantra's power, I think.
@@sugarfree1894 I resonate a lot with Kuan Yin and compassion so your comment really caught my interest. I will chant it every day for several minutes.
I think Rupert Spira's advice works for some people. But if someone's heart chakra is blocked or closed to the point where they don't feel any love then a different approach is needed to heal. Peter Levine's work has several different approaches. He said so on the recent video on Sounds True channel. I think the best approach perhaps varies depending on the particular energetic state of the person. I'm currently investigating what the best approaches are to healing trauma, anxiety, depression and other kinds of suffering. I will look up Hakomi. I've only recently come across Peter Levin. I know mindfulness meditation works for a lot of people in their healing process. For many persons body scan meditation where the feet are the object of focus helps them a lot. For some persons Yoga Nidra is very healing for them. Some people visualize bright beautiful white light filling and surrounding their body and aura and hold that as their object of focus throughout their meditation. EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique seems to be very helpful to many persons. There really are quite a few different approaches that work for a lot of people.
@@MandanceThe post from Aditiaher on this same comments page probably gives the best approach. But all the other approaches I listed are helpful and powerful too. It is good to combine them. Bringing one's awareness into the center of the feelings and feeling them fully without resistance seems to be the best way. EFT Tapping is sometimes the best way for many people. Louise Kay teaches the first approach. The Tapping Solution teaches the second. Visualizing Light filling and surrounding the body and aura is powerful too. Combining all 3 practices every day is best.
@@brianlittrell797that makes sense, the problem I have is it brings me back into a flashback sometimes of intense fear and hopelessness from my inner child and it feels I’ll either lose my mind or I get overcome with feelings of not wanting to live anymore which are the inner child’s feelings I know. I’m not sure if you have dealt with complex trauma or how you can be with that and heal from that. Thanks
A very good,highly spiritual, service oriented friend's severely depressed young son ended his life 4 days ago. He is in a deep state of shock. Stunned beyond words. There are no words of wisdom to heal or console him right now. What do you say to a father who found his son in that state? He is frozen. I asked him to embrace his immense grief..cry as long as he wanted to and let it all out. There is no need to be strong and stay composed. Be human. No talking, no God, no 'everything's gonna be alright talk' is going to seal the fountain of grief waiting to burst open from his heavy chest. Trauma is a soul shock and when happens over generations without being acknowledged or healed turns into depression. Don't let grief sit there. Wash it away with tears.
Beyond the deep grief lies the guild. A parent will always feel it's their duty to safe their child from any harm, especially from death. Even a short period of sickness in which I couldn't sufficiently take care of my children showed me that deep parental guild that I felt in all the cells of my body. That guild is also generational because imagine how many times in the past our ancestors weren't able to safe their children from starvation, wars, diseases. It became embedded in our dna but it begs for clearance. If the grief is deeply felt, the guild will uncover but it will be more painful than the grief. That makes it difficult to acces. Still, if this comes on ones path, it's the life lessons one has chosen, that's my view. This is not something to address to the griever, though. He has to discover this for himself. You will just be present with him, holding his hand, listening to his story while meeting your own brokeness as well. Ultimately, we are all learning that love is the equivalent of freedom. It means granting another being, even your own child, the freedom to live the way they do, to suffer and even to end their own life and learn their lessons the way they choose to.
@@wilma8326 While I hold his hand I feel his pain. Not because of brokenness though but because of a deep sense of connection I feel at his loss. Like its mine. We don't always cry for another cause it has triggered a trauma within. Sometimes its just a sense of Oneness you feel in the moment and that purely arises from a sense of wholeness not lack, in my experience.
After a lifelong struggle with depression and the 'pure O' aspect of OCD, this is the first time I have heard of this practice of working with (unconditionally loving) the state of depression. Thank you, Rupert... this is a real gift!
There are a lot of different approaches, but as with all uncomfortable feelings, what you resist persists in some form or another. Lurking under what’s called ‘depression’ there may be sadness, anger, fear, whatever and the dark thoughts that go together. It all needs to be felt and allowed. Spiritual techniques like mindfulness, be the I AM, be the witness, mantra, can become forms of spiritual bypassing. Also depression is physical, I have found regular exercise and movement coupled with meditation, good food, journal writing, creativity etc to have been helpful and to release a greater sense of well-being. Also good to fire up one’s own inner teacher/therapist since the external ones are not around 99% of the time (and expensive and just not uniquely you!), and consult one’s own intuition, free from all dogmas and belief systems.
What a great answer. Truly this is the key. And honestly if we were taught to not run and distract ourselves from emotions when we were children the world would be so different. Same with depression - which is just strong emotions that have become entrenched.
This is great! I realised a long time ago that after I had recovered from some serious depression I actually missed it afterwards! I agree with Rupert that embracing is the best way. I have been turning towards the One for years yet depression doesn't go away for doing that. I kept thinking I wasn't attending in the right way because it wasn't working, the depression was so adamant! Douglas Harding wrote about this in 'Head-Off Stress' in which he describes his 'Headless' or 'No-Face Way as the 'art of depression'. Thank you Rupert for this video!
For me this 7 minutes video clip condenses in a fabulous way the greatest gift that Rupert Spira Francis Luicille Jean Klein and all teachers from the the Krishnamenon lineage have given to all humanity
How can one love the very thing that wants to unalive you? Love something that tears one away from every joy life probably has to offer? I can feel some sort of pity with it and understand its reason for being there, but it really does not help. I try hugging myself, give me time, loved the part of me brave enough to ask for help and to feel it. I think you have one special kind of heart if you can love this. 💜💜💜
Thank You Sir. I just recently discovered you and am just so thankful for your knowledge and inspiring me to find truth and happiness. You are a great teacher.
One powerful question is one of identity, as you start: "I.../ I am.../ I am a depressed.../ I am a depressed man.../ I am a depressed man who was born into this life with a lot of ancestral trauma.../etc..." Imagine, for a moment, you could sit and witness all these patterns but not identify with them. On the other hand, you seem to be connecting "void" to "depression." The "void" you experience may be "enlightenment." Are you sure it is not the labeling of "void" experience as "negative" that is causing the suffering? In your search for enlightenment, you may have concepts of "happy-happy, joy-joy" that have nothing to do with "enlightenment." "Void" can actually be a "marvelous" place. You are already enlightened; you just can't recognize it as such.
Depression is the most powerful chance to wake up to live life free of fear and loss, ambitions adopted from society. It is a wake up call to see what is not what illusionary we think there is. I bless the depression which became my experience. Gladly I did not follow the advice of society or psychologists. I gave it full attention to the very bottom. I let it go through and I remember the moment of the last tear... Then, the experience of depression was completed with correct conclusions. I totally agree with Rupert here. Totally!
I find it so difficult to think of loving something that has hurt you and still does. I am listening to many like Rupert and Tolle, and physically and emotionally are dealing with issues again. It’s been in cycles throughout my life. My mom had agoraphobia, and some traumas that were suppressed led to this journey I am on.
... But... Which purpose do we have to go to non dualism teachings? Do we want to know the truth about who we are or do we want to get rid of depression and become non depressive individuals...? It's not the same... I mean, we suffer because we forgot what we are (suffering implies also ecstatic experiences, joyful states of mind), not because we experiment certain emotions that we don't like. As long as we define ourselves as a separated entity, suffering is a constant.
Yes but its also hard to do self inquiry when feeling depressed. Thats why its good to deal with the depression in the way Rupert is speaking. Then its just easier to do the self inquiring without the depression present.
As a psychologist and someone who has previously been depressed for 10-some years and who has been solidly free from it for some 9 years, I’d say Rupert’s advice here is simplistic at best, and detrimental at worst. The way I see it there are important areas in the material world that have an immense influence over our baseline sense of well being and they need to be taken care of if you want a fighting chance against depression. That includes, but is not limited to, your physical body, your romantic relationship, your family relationships and your insertion in the community and society, specially through meaningful work. From that solid “material” foundation I can guarantee you you’ll feel much more able to tackle what’s left of your suffering from a spiritual perspective (if at that point you’re still interested in it at all).
I think Rupert Spira's advice works for some people. But if someone's heart chakra is blocked or closed to the point where they don't feel any love then a different approach is needed to heal. Peter Levine's work has several different approaches. He said so on the recent video on Sounds True channel. I think the best approach perhaps varies depending on the particular energetic state of the person. I'm currently investigating what the best approaches are to healing trauma, anxiety, depression and other kinds of suffering. I will look up Hakomi. I've only recently come across Peter Levin. I know mindfulness meditation works for a lot of people in their healing process. For many persons body scan meditation where the feet are the object of focus helps them a lot. For some persons Yoga Nidra is very healing for them. Some people visualize bright beautiful white light filling and surrounding their body and aura and hold that as their object of focus throughout their meditation. EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique seems to be very helpful to many persons. There really are quite a few different approaches that work for a lot of people.
It is hard to hear that I must love what I hate. Depression is so life killing and so scary that it seems normal to reject that which causes so much pain. However, all my programs for getting rid of depression have been unsuccessful and so I look with fear, doubt and skepticism on trying this new approach. To really love what I fear. I remember hearing a priest say that when we are aware and live in the present moment it will be Springtime forever. Imagine if that could be real.
Can I ask a question of Robert himself or indeed of anyone else here watching and reading? It doesn’t really pertain to this video in particular so apologies for that. A new question is arising in my mind and it concerns my mind and it concerns the attention that I have been practising to guide and place out of the reach of ego, to place my awareness not in my thoughts or ideas that come and go but in the space of quiet awareness itself. And the question that is forming is when I seem to be placing my awareness in awareness alone, is whether this is an awareness OF my mind, or does my mind exist and run WITHIN my awareness… are they really separate at all? Can I separate them both? Can my mind really be switched off while my awareness remains active? I might choose to ‘let go of a thought that arises’ but am I not thinking about letting go DURING in the act of letting go so that my mind is still involved? If I place my attention in my hands to distract my mind from thoughts and thinking is it not my mind that is placing my thought there and therefore engaged in the thought of that instruction? I’m not trying to be tricky here, i have just come to a crossroads where I just don’t know the answer.
Fiercely love an overwhelming feeling of despair and hopelessness which doesn’t even have an apparent cause or context? It feels like my soul is being murdered. I don’t really think I could do that with my level of depression.
one does not INHERIT depression, that which is inherited is a habitual and conditioned attachment to a method of thinking and the identification to the condition. It would be best practice to ALLOW the depression to SIT with you under the LIGHT of awareness (YOU) so that it can explain itself WITHOUT the FEAR of being banished. You see when we are faced with ANY form of struggle our first response is to GET RID of it. that which is troubling you will only hide deeper when it fears its demise only to return at some point later down the line. ALLOW it to sit, because it will NEVER be able to stand up in YOUR LIGHT. it will get bored and dissolve on it own WITHOUT returning. 🙏
Hi rupert, Could you perhaps elaborate a bit more about how one can fully embrace such negative feelings with full love as you mentioned (whether personal like depression or something like jealousy) . I cant fully seem to grasp how to apply this if you understand what i mean. When you acknowledge that there is a depressive state (or any other strong emotion) within me, how do you go about embracing it with full love
@ Amolyoutube Rattanyoutube Thank you for your question. You are welcome to ask Rupert your question directly during one of Rupert's online meetings. You can find out more information by clicking the link in the video description, and then going to 'Events'. Warmly, Niya
If you’re depressed due to a dietary deficiency then no amount of awareness or meditation is going yo address the root cause of the problem. For instance: 80% of Americans are Magnesium deficient. Magnesium is known as the ‘calming mineral’ and it’s involved in hundreds of bodily functions. Thousands of people were released from mental hospitals in America in the 1930’s after the government mandated that B vitamins must be added back into the flour after milling which strips them away. A deficiency of B1, B3 or B12 could easily land you in a mental hospital! So many people nowadays are overfed and undernourished. Worth looking into! And caffeine can wreck havoc with your nerves as well!
I have a question regarding my situation. Should I take a year off from university for my mental health? I had a panic attack right before my exam which made me had to go to the ER and miss my exam. The thing is this exam is not even important, I don't expect much and don't feel that stressed about it.But the doctor said it's an autonomous response from my body, probably because of other underlying fear that is more serious. The exam is just a small trigger. I've also feel burned out, anxious, depressed in general. The medication I am on does not help but make things worse by causing drowsiness. I can barely function when I'm on it especially without sleep. As awareness, my true nature, should I listen to these symptoms and adjust my situation or should I let it be by continuing university even though it feels like torture. Thanks a lot. 🙏🏼
It is an analogy that Rupert uses. John Smith plays the role of king Lear, but he forgets that he is John Smith and suffers the pain of the character, but it is all a theater play. It is like our life, we suffer the things our mind creates but we really are consciousness.
Hi Timothy, As Jacqueline kindly mentioned, the best way to speak to Rupert is through the online events. Tickets for the webinars are available on a sliding scale donation basis starting from £1.44. This is so that the webinars can be affordable to as many people as possible. You can find out more about the online events by going to the website. The link to the website is in the descriptions box under the video. Warmly, Niya
What do you mean he inherited his depression? Is that possible? There is no proof that depression is inherited. Some are just more vulnerable to depression than others. They don’t inherit it. That is not a very hopeful way to see things. It implies that you can’t get rid of it. That it’s in your genes. That it’s your destiny. I would appreciate if Rubert could clarify this more on a deeper level
@@rozzgrey801 I wasn’t being flippant. I too have something very unpleasant trying to take my life. I started to think. Are words part of the problem? Concepts. We live in an age when Dr’s hand out anti depression medication like candy. What if the words like ‘depression’ and ‘despair’ didn’t exist? Is the language, the label, the concept, part of the problem? Maybe I’m talking nonsense but I feel it’s important to at least think about.
Dear Rupert, from your reply I heard that you don't speak from personal experience as of not having suffered from depression but from you have heard from other people who suffered depression. I will talk from personal experience when I say that sometimes chronic depression includes a feeling of deep disconnect and disorientation so , words like love your depression, unconditional love, and other expressions you use here are in my case( and I am not special) when depressed a foreign language. How do you feel love when you feel dead inside and part of the depression is because you cannot feel love to those closest to you and those who you die to be able to love? I love your work Rupert it has been a very good source of understanding, experiential understanding. Once in another clip , you offered a participant , suggested very kindly to go to therapy, like a loving knowledgable friend, specially if s/he has an understanding of non- duality. I gently suggest to you to be extremely careful when suggesting something that you actually have not experienced personally. Many times chronic depression is also linked to trauma, and these fields are very real until they aren't. I appreciate your good intentions. In my experience the modalities of Hakomi (HAkomi education network specifically) and somatic experience form Peter levin were very helpful. Cheers
I think Rupert Spira's advice works for some people. But if someone's heart chakra is blocked or closed to the point where they don't feel any love then a different approach is needed to heal. Peter Levine's work has several different approaches. He said so on the recent video on Sounds True channel. I think the best approach perhaps varies depending on the particular energetic state of the person. I'm currently investigating what the best approaches are to healing trauma, anxiety, depression and other kinds of suffering. I will look up Hakomi. I've only recently come across Peter Levin. I know mindfulness meditation works for a lot of people in their healing process. For many persons body scan meditation where the feet are the object of focus helps them a lot. For some persons Yoga Nidra is very healing for them. Some people visualize bright beautiful white light filling and surrounding their body and aura and hold that as their object of focus throughout their meditation. EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique seems to be very helpful to many persons. There really are quite a few different approaches that work for a lot of people.
The problem why people often can't heal from depression is because the root cause is not mental, but physical . You need to see a naturopath Dr . Or acupuncture practitioner for that . They will definitely help !! Even WIFI can cause depression because it is low vibrational frequency.
