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How do Vortex Generators Work? 

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Kyle is back with a beard and a new look to teach y'all about vortex generators! Used on EVOs, F1 cars and aircraft, VGs are an interesting tech, that a lot of people don't actually seem to properly understand....
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@KYLEENGINEERS
@KYLEENGINEERS 5 лет назад
Since RU-vid is about to delete annotations, figured I'd post them here for everyone to see. Enjoy the video! 1:59 Whoops, this is meant to be an increase in pressure, not a decrease in pressure, my bad. Click on the card for more detail on the adverse pressure gradient.
@huracanian3051
@huracanian3051 5 лет назад
What about the different types and shapes of rear diffusers?
@ChargedTTq
@ChargedTTq 4 года назад
Can vortex generators be used without a wing to reduce drag? On the rear roof of the car or even the decklid?
@faithstormer1976
@faithstormer1976 4 года назад
@@ChargedTTq Vortex Generators are meant to keep the air that passes through your car attached to the boundary layer. Without them, at certain high speeds your air starts to disperse at the top of the car right before the roof slopes down. In a way they can reduce drag, but not a whole lot cause you still need other parts to help reduce drag.
@JK-ql2yp
@JK-ql2yp 4 года назад
Can u explain how vortices are created by vortex generator
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 2 года назад
RU-vid deleted my subscription for here too
@maddudenyc
@maddudenyc 8 лет назад
Thanks for the lesson Ryan Gosling!
@Raven3one
@Raven3one 7 лет назад
maddudenyc 🙌🙌
@ThePivoteer101
@ThePivoteer101 6 лет назад
He looks like Daniel Radcliffe too!
@AtticAZ
@AtticAZ 5 лет назад
maddudenyc You win! 🙌🏻 lol
@ammarmdalati
@ammarmdalati 5 лет назад
I was thinking that the whole time
@jasonyoung6420
@jasonyoung6420 5 лет назад
@@ThePivoteer101 he's a hybrid, shall we name him Ryan Radcliffe or Daniel Gosling?
@max-dm001
@max-dm001 7 лет назад
as every genius engineer must, you draw terribly. awesome explanation
@jackbotman
@jackbotman 3 года назад
He was using his left hand at an awkward angle
@BudoReflex
@BudoReflex 3 года назад
As a fellow left hander, we draw shit on purpose. If all our powers were on display, you would burn us at the stake. 😜
@HospitalForSouls.X
@HospitalForSouls.X 2 года назад
My professor met those standards 😂
@juliolopez5630
@juliolopez5630 Год назад
better to have the brains than drawing skills ask the docs ahahahahahahahahahah!!! you need a bucket to dribble all your shit in to
@Legorreta.M.D
@Legorreta.M.D Год назад
Some people are sometimes unreasonably difficult to please. You’re getting a Mercedes F1 engineer explain things to you FOR FREE and you still find things to complain about. Unbelievable
@beetfarmer8933
@beetfarmer8933 9 лет назад
I really appreciate the credentials. It's nice to finally see someone on youtube who actually knows their $hit. +1
@claudedottin1312
@claudedottin1312 7 лет назад
It was that the credibility was presented which was awesome
@SEThatered
@SEThatered 6 лет назад
Amen.
@gc7178
@gc7178 6 лет назад
Agreed
@dandingerat
@dandingerat 5 лет назад
Simon WoodburyForget well he got scouted to work for mercedes in the aero division in formula 1 so i think he knows what he’s doing
@cyjan3k823
@cyjan3k823 5 лет назад
@@dandingerat exactly, I really dont understand why people like this simon call him idiot yeah it is not some aerospace level of explaination but 99,9% wouldnt get it really or wouldmt care enough to watch
@recklesslyarrogant7242
@recklesslyarrogant7242 8 лет назад
My favorite part of the video was when you set everyone on fire by proving you have you paper in this field.
@danielegerussi7453
@danielegerussi7453 2 года назад
Greatest ooof moment of all time
@jrkc9218
@jrkc9218 7 лет назад
I've used this video as a supplemental explanation for my students in aerospace physics. Great job!
@1177mrz
@1177mrz 7 лет назад
mildly informative? bro free engineering classes 🙌 bless your soul haha. I was at ASU studying mechanical engineering joined, FSA too but couldn't wait to build my own stuff. Hence I'm attending a top notch fabricating school. your videos are immensely helpful. I hope to get my fabricating RU-vid page going soon 👍 video editing in process.
@pooindaloo6049
@pooindaloo6049 7 лет назад
Subbed. I'm expecting good things from you, Andre. ;)
@killfire08
@killfire08 3 года назад
you got that channel?! id sub ;)
@TheRealFobican
@TheRealFobican 9 лет назад
When you brought up the example of what they thought when designing the EVO´s aerodynamics I understood exactly how it would play out. It basically helps the wing to do it´s job more properly to push down the rear end for down force.
@charleshu5752
@charleshu5752 6 лет назад
Did he just predicted that Civic type R will have the vortex generator
@vovovovan
@vovovovan 7 лет назад
Outstanding videos. I'm an aero mech engineer myself, and have a huge passion towards aerodynamics. These vids are like crack to me. Keep 'em coming!
@LukeTowers
@LukeTowers 9 лет назад
This video was quite helpful to me! It made it a lot easier for me to understand what vortex generators do and how they improve the airflow. Looking at this from an aviation perspective (specifically improving the stall characteristics of wings) this was an incredibly helpful video explaining how that works. I was previously confused as to how disturbing the airflow over the wing could work to improve the stall characteristics, but now it all makes sense! Thank you very much for your highly informative video!
@Max.Drl2t
@Max.Drl2t 7 лет назад
Damn I hate the room where you are speaking... that sound tho...
@bungcheese5901
@bungcheese5901 6 лет назад
Drl2t if you don't like room echo then speed up the video, it speeds up the reverb decay.. I thought it would be engineers watching these 🤦‍♂️
@idahmoscovite
@idahmoscovite 5 лет назад
@@bungcheese5901 hopefully no audio engineers and sound designers are watching this. That being said the video is very informative but the echo takes away from the quality
@terryallen9546
@terryallen9546 5 лет назад
Yes. I made a helpful comment to him on how to correct this problem. As he is a top notch petsonality, I'm certain he will be on it immediately.
@stevethenurse
@stevethenurse 9 лет назад
Excellent, Kyle! I appreciate your diligence and hard work bringing aerospace to the masses
@_iamkingreemy___8784
@_iamkingreemy___8784 5 лет назад
Trust me , i know what im talking about 😂 i love this guy already
@littlegrizzlybiggins151
@littlegrizzlybiggins151 7 лет назад
This was very helpful and informative! Thank you for taking the time to explain them!!
@silverdon55
@silverdon55 7 лет назад
I so love getting knowledge from someone who actually has some. Thanks for sharing.
@adambadri6161
@adambadri6161 7 лет назад
Nice work man! U alongside with Engineering Explained make a perfect duo for enlightening us and making our automotive knowledge expand to respectable degree. Thanks
@pryderacing8056
@pryderacing8056 7 лет назад
F**k the haters, keep the information flowing!!! (no pun intended)
@cmendoza1094
@cmendoza1094 7 лет назад
This is the problem with people. Asking for his background or a source is not "hating" it's common sense.
@Eskmm1
@Eskmm1 7 лет назад
the fact you said "(no pun intended)" suggests it was intended.
@Devinfrbs
@Devinfrbs 6 лет назад
It was intended to not be intended. :D
@pigeonbass11
@pigeonbass11 9 лет назад
Sir, you just efficiently described the major parts of my aerodynamics course. Bravo
@stephengohlke8456
@stephengohlke8456 8 лет назад
Great presentation. As an aviator instructor, it helped me to understand and provide an excellent example for explanation.
@kcros9393
@kcros9393 8 лет назад
good video very informative, if i could make a suggestion it would to reduce the echo from the room when filming.
@KYLEENGINEERS
@KYLEENGINEERS 8 лет назад
+Kc Ros Check my new vids, the problems have been solved! Thanks for watching!
@davidkris
@davidkris 4 года назад
Would love to see examples of the different types of vortex generators you mentioned in a future video. Thanks for these, nice work!
@4thstreetfresh2death
@4thstreetfresh2death 9 лет назад
I'm Currently studying to become a aviation maintenance engineer... i had a hard time understanding exactly how vortex generators suck high energy air into the boundary layer... You said the exact same thing my instructor said in his explanation, but just seeing you use a diagram while you explained gave me an epiphany... thank you
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 7 лет назад
Old vids are still informative. Wish I was an aerospace engineer majoring in race car dynamics. I'm just a home hack with no money trying to build race cars in my spare time.
@tojiroh
@tojiroh 6 лет назад
Good for you! At least you're doing something. Something that will go fast and make happy noises.
@BrokeWrench
@BrokeWrench 3 года назад
I'm just a home hack with no money taking youtube engineering classes because I can barely afford to maintain the nearly stock vehicles I have lol
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 3 года назад
@@BrokeWrench I've not modified a vehicle in 16 years. I buy cars that are specced well enough that I can just drive them with no maintenance. Lol. Funnel all my money into my track car. Plus I have a deal with my wife that ant of my sideline projects go into my race fund. I buy rusty old trailers and fix them and sell for profit and part out cars I get for cheap
@InYourDreams-Andia
@InYourDreams-Andia 9 месяцев назад
Best aero explanation out there! I'm looking to implement this tech for wing sails, endplated, Sail GP style. They use a double slot wing with a essentially a huge adjustable flap at huge angles. Ive never seen vortex gens on them. As you say, every little helps!
@rhincodontypus3830
@rhincodontypus3830 2 года назад
You have no idea how much your video helps me with my term paper. Thanks,
@RedDragonV09
@RedDragonV09 9 лет назад
Would it be too much to ask for you to make a video going over the different types of vortex generators like you did on the diffusers?
@emin86
@emin86 7 лет назад
I have an interest in aerodynamics, esp. for cars, so these videos are very crucial. Thank you for making these.
@vincentlorusso3016
@vincentlorusso3016 3 года назад
Why would somebody say you don’t know what your talking about? I have an aeronautical science degree and I enjoyed the refresher. Thank you! Great video!
@SteveBrownRacing
@SteveBrownRacing 7 лет назад
Great videos - Would love something that goes a bit more in depth on what types of vortex generators the average person might DIY in their garage for a budget limited race car.
@saurabh7597
@saurabh7597 4 года назад
Thanxx bro.. finallyyy got it. Have been trying to understand VG , after watching a lot of videos, yours made complete sense. Thanks
@ryaneast3287
@ryaneast3287 7 лет назад
aerodynamics tips for better fuel economy please. that would be a great topic that everyone could apply.
@WetOlde
@WetOlde 6 лет назад
Ryan East anything that reduces drag?
@michelletessin6702
@michelletessin6702 5 лет назад
@@WetOlde I too would like to know more about Vortex Generators for improve MPG on my daily driver. Which one's work, and how do I acquire them. Tommy T.
@lindltailor
@lindltailor 4 года назад
@@michelletessin6702 remove your rear wing, automatically improve your MPG!
@cyjan3k823
@cyjan3k823 4 года назад
@@lindltailor not in every case, in sedans rear wing can reduce drag
@PhaseSkater
@PhaseSkater 3 года назад
@@lindltailor dont have a rear wing on my ioniq
@hannuvepsalainen74
@hannuvepsalainen74 9 лет назад
really good video. you did not have lots of materials in the video but still the explanations were very much clear enough.
@ericp.9497
@ericp.9497 9 лет назад
I had no idea there was such a thing. I learned something completely new and your explanation was clear and concise. Subscribed!
@gateway8833
@gateway8833 5 лет назад
When I was a Truck Driver we put Vortex Generator on the aft edge of the cabs and Trailers and the difference that made to stabilizing the vehicles was very impressive, and the unexpected fuel saving was a surprise but very welcomed.
@terryallen9546
@terryallen9546 5 лет назад
Love what you do, man. As a supportive comment, I'd like to mention there is a science or two on being able to hold the attention of the viewer/listener. I'm talking about audio quality. The ghastly echo in your voice recording which you created by relying on the built in mic of your camera...several feet away, can be easily solved by clipping a small mic to your lapel. You could also use a boom mic just out of your shot, but since you move around a lot, you"d need an operator. In other words, to hold the attention of even seriously interested, technically minded viewers, you need a mic close to your mouth. This will help you present your world class information in a world class manner. Once again, love the great contribution to racing education that you make.
@hejamodo
@hejamodo 7 лет назад
New subscriber, love this. Informative, interesting and best of all. It's understandable. I will never look on a race car the same again.
@jasonwright4623
@jasonwright4623 7 лет назад
Best one yet. Love the beginning, chopping up the haters :). Great stuff Kyle. Keep on sharing the knowledge please. Regards JW
@ganeshv.v.s7038
@ganeshv.v.s7038 4 года назад
Wow this video is amazing. I'm writing a paper on Vortex generators for my minor project and this surely helps!!
@joeb1895
@joeb1895 3 месяца назад
That was explained exceptionally well. Thank you!
@billxam2674
@billxam2674 3 года назад
I will add to what Kyle is saying here - I drive a first generation Dodge Stealth with the so called "banana" spoiler which is at the base of the rear window. I tuft tested it and wound up with swirling blah airflow over the top of it. The tufts went in circles. After I added the vortex generators, the airflow is now nice and straight, top and bottom.
@koenverschoor3936
@koenverschoor3936 6 лет назад
Just discovered your videos, love them bro!
@starrisk
@starrisk 12 дней назад
the best explanation with examples thus far.
@90SkidUSA
@90SkidUSA 7 лет назад
Man I'm in love with your videos, keep it up
@LastBastionLabs
@LastBastionLabs 2 года назад
Nicely done!
@raylocke282
@raylocke282 6 лет назад
This has helped me alot in regards to understanding this phenomoinon.
@SayaAmirulSyamim
@SayaAmirulSyamim 7 лет назад
Thanks for the explanation ! Appreciate your work
@Isaac-wz9in
@Isaac-wz9in 9 лет назад
Thank you, it was very illustrative.
@scottwhitmire6613
@scottwhitmire6613 2 года назад
Thanks, Will look to your trainings before the aero stages on the Jag.🏁 Best to you Scott Whitmire
@gasmasher147
@gasmasher147 7 лет назад
Thanks for the information Kyle. It led to me do a lot more research to understand how they work. I realized that a vortex generator is useless on my car and possibly counterproductive.
@Splashdown99
@Splashdown99 7 лет назад
Great video! Highly informative.
@fredortiz5145
@fredortiz5145 7 лет назад
Hi, I watched your entire video. I don't know anything about this science but found your explanation interesting. Good video.
@jackbotman
@jackbotman 3 года назад
Pro tip for acoustics, grap some towels or blankets and place them on the floor or around you to dampen some of the eco. Also, good video :)
@R1Armadill0
@R1Armadill0 6 лет назад
Nice info. I had no idea! Thanks!
@trevorh6438
@trevorh6438 7 лет назад
Love the trenchcoat, good info too. Thanks.
@charliegivilancz6412
@charliegivilancz6412 2 года назад
Left handed drawing is difficult. I'm left handed so don't sweat it. Clear concise explanation. I'm currently re-engineering my 2017 truck for better gas mileage through engine calibration and I now realize that aero needs to be part of the solution. Underbelly as well as the roof to the rear wing need smoothing in order to cut down the CD of the vehicle to make more progress. 20% savings isn't enough for me.
@DadJokeCinema
@DadJokeCinema 2 года назад
This is a trip back for someone who just started watching your stuff recently. (I like the beard, fyi)
@FISFDeGaulle
@FISFDeGaulle 6 лет назад
Very interesting ! Thanks for the explanations
@GillzyBlek
@GillzyBlek 29 дней назад
Thank you so much, that helped me a lot. I'll be having my exams on this coming week. I'm an aircraft maintenance engineer.
@KaDaJxClonE
@KaDaJxClonE 7 лет назад
love your work. im a new subscriber and absolutely love what you do. you remind me of Engineering Explained, but you go more in depth in real world workings rather than just concepts.
@elpanchazo
@elpanchazo 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing! I practice kitefoil and I'm building an hydrofoil with a 3d printer using a Naca4412 profile for the front wing, do you think that adding small vortex generators to the leading edge of the wing could help increasing lift and reducing stall angle? Cheers!
@singleturbosupra7951
@singleturbosupra7951 9 лет назад
You really do need A LOT more subscribers. So in-depth stuff compared to any car related videos on youtube.
@WarriorOfEden3033
@WarriorOfEden3033 Год назад
Engineering Explained needs to collab with him
@db613
@db613 6 лет назад
Kyle, very well explained. Could you perhaps make a video to explain this concept on another application, be the edge of a bicycle tire. Mavic came out with the CXR and CX01 blade that smoothens the surface area where the tire mounts the rim, yet insisted on using their tire which has tiny ridges to create a gradient vortex at the leading frontal edge of the tire. In trying to understand their design and science I came accros this video. I would be curious to better understand where tp make this vortex on the edgw to have the greatest effect
@brandonhellmer4339
@brandonhellmer4339 8 лет назад
I really wish more people who think they are gear heads were informed like you are. I have watched videos of people going down the road with there coors beer in there buddys truck calling out every car with any aerodynamic mod on screaming that they are a racer. I would have not know what a Swan Neck Wing was if it was not for your video. You make perfect sense when you explain. keep up the good work
@sagawa_kuristina
@sagawa_kuristina 9 лет назад
That was absolutely brilliant... Spot on =)
@AdzSONLINE
@AdzSONLINE 8 лет назад
Great video, I've subscribed and am going to watch your other videos. Thank you!
@JeffreyStrader
@JeffreyStrader 4 года назад
There are many different kinds of vortex generators, such as simple plow, shielded plow, triangular plow, scoop, twist interchanger, ramp, tapered fin, dome, shielded sink, wedge, vane, wing, fences, leading edge fairing, dorsal fin, etc.
@Bunjee98
@Bunjee98 7 лет назад
Thanks man cool video. I'm personally looking for a way to get air to slip around my truck a little better. It's a small Isuzu rodeo with a flatbed and I'm looking to modify in the future however it needs some aerodynamic work done. Is there anyway to force premature separation?
@MLambdaman
@MLambdaman 9 лет назад
Great explanation ! Thank you !
@L7pusher
@L7pusher 9 лет назад
Excellent Lecture. A+. Thank You.
@AhmadDanHamidu
@AhmadDanHamidu 6 лет назад
Great explanation!
@brad727
@brad727 5 лет назад
Great explanation! helped a lot, thanks! :)
@jakovbilic4556
@jakovbilic4556 3 года назад
This is awsome!! Great job
@Daosx89
@Daosx89 8 лет назад
Sir you got a subscription very informative thanks and keep up the good work
@JoJo-xd8xv
@JoJo-xd8xv 7 лет назад
Lol love how you flexed your knowledge on us in the beginning of the video 😂
@scottmoore8080
@scottmoore8080 7 лет назад
Took me a while to find you. Like your videos. iRacer here PCA coach, so working with aero is new to me. Running a Merc AMG GT3 car. Thank you- it has got me thinking. --S
@sooth5527
@sooth5527 7 лет назад
that was an incredible explanation
@ibizalover2000
@ibizalover2000 8 лет назад
Fantastic tute! thank you. Can you tell us if adding vortex generators to the windscreen edge of convertible will help stopping air entering the open top, and turbulence? any thanks
@MikeySan5127
@MikeySan5127 2 года назад
Nice video, good explanation for low velocity air flow. High velocity appears to react very differently, flow separation always occurs.
@nerome619
@nerome619 7 лет назад
love the test rig!
@sajsed2
@sajsed2 6 лет назад
Thank you for sharing great work 👍🏿
@mandirali7553
@mandirali7553 2 года назад
Such a good lesson, thank you.
@Boudi74
@Boudi74 7 лет назад
thank you very very much for your time and your explanation
@hpsauce4
@hpsauce4 8 лет назад
Loved the video, definitely subscribing!! I am currently studying and you love to read some of your papers, where could I find them? Cheers Kyle
@KYLEENGINEERS
@KYLEENGINEERS 8 лет назад
+Hunt-Pain Try here: arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/1.J052529 people.eng.unimelb.edu.au/imarusic/proceedings/19/342.pdf papers.sae.org/2015-01-2573/ Thanks for watching!
@LA595Team67
@LA595Team67 7 месяцев назад
Cheers mate, Very helpful and good and the Explanation along with applying the Scientific Proof of what Vortex Generaters do. 💯
@benmoore2713
@benmoore2713 2 года назад
Dude your videos are awesome!!
@PM_Anthony_Albanese
@PM_Anthony_Albanese 7 лет назад
Thanks very much for this video. In between people like yourself, and being given a copy of 'Race Car Engineering by Paul Van Valkenburg' when I was 8, I feel more confident in making aero changes to my race car, because I feel like I might have half an idea what I'm doing now, as a privately funded person without oodles of cash or a wind tunnel.
@dougbeard8912
@dougbeard8912 3 года назад
Kyle really out here proving his credentials serving up blade runner looks we don't deserve him
@barrybaltinas4188
@barrybaltinas4188 5 лет назад
Thank you Kyle 🏁🙏🏼👌🏼
@RoobehTunes
@RoobehTunes 2 года назад
I enjoyed it and I done a learn. Thanks.
@seraynelcruden5832
@seraynelcruden5832 8 лет назад
Because people hate on your vid is because you are alot smarter than all the haters together.
@mihailvasilev877
@mihailvasilev877 6 лет назад
You got my like on the intro, i cannot wait to hear more :)_
@radleyanaya9552
@radleyanaya9552 4 года назад
You got a subscriber and a like from me. Thank you and please keep it up, this has been informative and it made complete sense. The reason I watched the video is because I am trying to improve my car for autocross and I wanted to learn about vortex generators. This was exactly what I needed. The only question I have left to answer is do they make more of an impact at higher speeds, my inclination is to say yes as it is probably easier to measure the impact they make at higher speeds vs lower speeds, but the effect they have is present regardless of speed, therefore I think it is wise to install these if your goal is to improve track times. Also I like the bit where you explain the "flaw" behind the evo designed vortex generators, as they are not the most efficient vortex generators, so I should do some research and find vortex generators that actually work before making a purchase. If you have a recommendation on a manufacturer of aftermarket vortex generators that would be superb (or you could always make them yourself, as I am sure you could make a competing product. Also wouldn't you think it help improve track times if vortex generators were installed at every angle?).
@ImranShamsul
@ImranShamsul 7 лет назад
Great videos! Thanks man!
@MasboyRC
@MasboyRC 4 года назад
Thx alot for explain and presentations
@Cipher422
@Cipher422 6 лет назад
I see vortex generators on airplanes that need increased short take-off performance also. Thanks for the informative vid. Now i have a better understanding of how those devices work.
@durrtybuck8949
@durrtybuck8949 7 лет назад
Never knew Ryan Gosling is a aerodynamic expert. Great video btw!
@hushpuppykl
@hushpuppykl 8 лет назад
Most enlightening, great stuff ... I like seeing cars with VGs and no spoiler. Hehehe ...
@jnxmaster
@jnxmaster 9 лет назад
Great video!
@bardocz
@bardocz 5 лет назад
Thank you for the informative video! Would adding some vortex generator on a street car have any benefit at all? I am thinking about a bit reduced fuel usage on a highway around 130-160 km/h. What about downforce? Would a laminar flow over the vehicle increase the downforce a bit? I have a 6 gen Civic VTi, and I wouldn't mind a bit lower fuel consumption on the highway for "free". Also it would reduce the noise a bit I guess (less drag>less power required for same speed>maybe not that loud). I love the sound of the car on a mountain road, but for a 2 hour drive it's not that pleasant.
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