How Do You Know if Your Vtuber Concept is Bad? 

whats the main character test you used for your vtuber concept?

QUESTION: What do you think about having someone's Character Design MATCH their Voice/Vibe? It's something that I think that SOME VTubers don't do well, and an aspect that I think doesn't always work well. Overall though, I find this to be REALLY interesting, even as someone not planning on going into VTubing!

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I definitely struggle a lot with picking colors I make the outfits rather quickly but then the coloring takes hourrrss.

Your personality and appearance shouldn't fit inside of a template. Think about tsunderes and the stereotype: they're just supposed to be another personality. However, when people started realizing there was a huge fanbase around that, they wanted to capitalize on it. The focus went from "making a personality, and it ends up being close to what you call tsundere" to "making a tsundere character". Sometimes they're not even pertinent to the story, they're just there so tsundere fanboys have something to get attached to and blow their money on merch even if they wouldn't enjoy the show otherwise. By doing that, they focus too much on making a tsundere and it ends up being too stereotypical, they restrain their view on what is a tsundere. Before trying to fit in a species or something like that, you should just make something and pick a species that fits your character and its lore, or your personality, or go with another element of your design. Don't try to do it the other way around except if you just want a quick "template" to avoid spending too much thoughts on it. I'm not saying it's bad, if you don't want to spend your energy on that, but you seemed to care so it's not a method suited for this then. And it easily falls into the "tsundere phenomenon trap", so it has a negative connotation for me personally. Do you want something that pleases yourself? If your goal is to stream for yourself, make something for yourself. However, if you want to make it a job, do you want a more "professional" design? Remember that without further details, I can't really give more personal advice or make it more suited for you, but if you want to give more details it'll be my pleasure to share what knowledge I have, even if I'm just a neophyte. To help people give you advice, you could precise what you define as "aesthetically pleases me more": are you implying that it's more for your taste but less general tastes, or something? Because all that says is that it's something you like more, but it seems like you worded it as if it was a drawback. I'm assuming you're implying something, but you have to precise what drawback you're implying about something that pleases you more. If it's something you like, it's hard to understand why it's bad and what's bad about it. You can also put a little sentence at the end to make it clear, but what I get from your comment is that you're unable to concile both the visual aspects of a design with an appropriate lore (by lore here I mean the species, visual designs elements that go with your personality and making your design more of a metaphor of yourself than a first-degree visual model). You could consider the following (just an assumption, so if it's not that the rest probably isn't applicable): your priority is to make a design to stream, and you wonder if you should choose personality to bond with your design or a visually pleasing model, given that you can only have one of those. If that's the case, you should know that it's a common struggle, because you want to make something pleasing on 2-3 different levels. You have a first degree, the visuals themselves. Then, you have the theme, color palette and all the stuff that isn't directly "awh she's cute". Finally, there's the meaning of everything: what does your species mean, what your visuals and accessories imply about your personality, etc... And it may take some time finding a balance. You can make stuff super interesting at the third degree, but if the rest isn't interesting, you'll have a hard time retaining an audience long enough for them to get into that stuff. You can also make something super striking, but there's no meaning behind it so once the initial appeal is gone, all your audience drops by lack of interest and you're just constantly renewing your fanbase at that point. You can focus on whichever option you like more, and slowly try to incorporate in a better way elements of the other degrees: make a ton of lore so you get a loyal fanbase even if it's little, and piece by piece by reworking and rebranding you'll get better visuals to appeal more to newcomers. Or, make a beautiful model that has potential for lore and other stuff, even if you don't know how yet, and think about it, let the idea sink in. Slowly, you may get a clearer idea of how you can include lore to your design.

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My thoughts exactly!

Maybe that's the case, but you might also be exaggerating some parts. Of course it's a minor detail on the scope of everything that makes a vtuber great, because everything is. There are dozens of elements to a vtuber designs, and even more so if you only count popularity and appreciation (because then you involve a ton more stuff like voice, character, online presence, etc... on top of the vtuber design and everything it entails). Sure, Matara's silhouette wasn't especially dealbreaking in her case. The point of the silhouette is mainly to help long-time recognizability. Matara had a huge start, mainly because she was known under a different persona before (I don't want to be the one saying it out loud though). People liked her there and still liked her as Matara. So it's obvious that for a returnee vtuber under a new model, her silhouette doesn't really impact the short-term retention compared to the fact that her old fanbase could follow her. However, her old fanbase will all go back to her pretty much right away, and it will not have any impact whatsoever to her growth from then on: she won't discover herself a new "old fanbase" to get a new spurge of followers. That's when things like silhouette start being useful again. And I might have to agree: amongst everything, you won't directly like a vtuber for their silhouette and it's one of the least noticeable elements in a concept when you look at it directly. However, that's only from one point of view. In things like group fanarts or fanfictions, maybe she's in the back because the drawing or story focuses on another character. She's probably tinier, harder to see or the focus is put on other characters. That's when it's good to have a well-defined silhouette: she's still recognizable from afar (tiny), and simple shapes are easier for the brain to register. So even if the focus isn't on her, the brain of the audience is still able to notice her. If someone has a bad silhouette in this case, you'd just dismiss them as a background character and your brain would have no chance to remember them. The silhouette is meant to catch interest over time and exposure, and mainly in environments where the brain has a lot of details to focus on. Even just collabs with many people your attention can be split too much, and you may bring in more fans from adjacent fanbases if your silhouette was more eye-friendly and easy to recognize. So, maybe it's not the most important part. However, it all depends on if you want to bring a new audience or focus on elements that will please your existing fanbase. Maybe their silhouette WAS a key element to draw you in, but you didn't notice (just like you may not notice that people are always more prone to stopping while scrolling and liking a picture if the character is "looking at them" from the image: it's an actual tip if you want to make successful drawings on social media, always make them look at the "camera"). And now you're a more dedicated fan and you're familiar with that vtuber, so you don't need the silhouette anymore to draw you into this vtuber's fanbase. I don't want to dismiss your opinion (idk how to say it, so I may have worded things in a bad way, sorry if that's the case), I think your point is valid and I just wanna give a different point of view.

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@@ima-Nat20 yeah no your REALLY stretching it to the high havens for literally bloody nothing, nothing made sense in what you THINK is a good use for a dumb silhouette, as if the MAJORITY of the time you actually see the damn silhouette ! hell the only time i hear how IMPORTANT it is is in this type of videos that just makes no sense to focuse on it at all

I need this, thanks!

Those crystal wings is a great element actually, you could add some kind of gemstones in your hair, nails, shoes, or maybe add glitter to your clothing to help enhance that "magic" and "cyrstal theme" you're cooking keep going!

@@MariYumeChyeah also I COMPLETELY forgot about them having claw hand things (see my pfp hands)

I made my character bust simple with colors and lines. Although, she wears the colorful dye T-shirt. I based my character on Roblox character.

Sounds cool!

I feel the vibes. Good concept!

Sorry I gust always wanted to joke like that

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you're cute

Thx 😊

Thank you kittenKatjiaiaa.. that is really a good wisdom that only Kaguya sama creator seem to pull off

the One that is always forgotten by the harem protagonist

I mean in a lot of iseaki, especially Harem anime/manga the love interests/ side characters have a more interesting design than the MC

@@HyattHyatt3179 well because most harem anime and manga are commercials for eroges

Wow, that's somehow even worse lmaoo

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i want to re-design your vtuber concept when i get my braincells back later this year :)

@@MariYumeCh We will. Right now I think Im just gonna get it png up and running. I sorta did today in my vid. I am definitely liking Prism over obs

IM NOT AN NPC!!!

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I feel you for the greyscale and one color for my character drawings.

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Pikamee had a good design though. Especially the art style made her very unique. Simple does not mean it's bad.

@@RanmaruRei I agree, pikamee have a simple but unique art style. It doesn't mean that it's bad, I'm just saying we don't really need a good and cool looking Vtuber design just to grow big as a vtuber