How does F1 let innovation thrive without stifling the rest of the sport? 

It's the actual rule!!! I'm sure of it.

Like jelly? That's rather broad I say.. I'm going to use my own brand that is S U P E R F L E X

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Afoxys, I remember seeing him launch, was by far the best flights by a f1 car 😁 Ofcourse all is good because drivers were safe at end of it.

More like hold my red bull

that Red Bull RB-Whatever launch at China was relatively tame in comparison to two rolls he endured in the Mercedes CLR back in 1999

Corbin Selanne Was it Mark Webber who did a backflip in a LMP1 car?

@@loweeklund1189 Twice in pre-race sessions for the 1999 Le Mans race. Peter Dumbreck was the in-race flip in one of the other CLRs; Dumbreck's flip saw Merc immediately call in the surviving CLR and end its race safely

R.I.P. I didn't know him but that's no way to die. I saw it after my friends screamed and told me what happened.

2:37 Got me twice.

Yes, it is also interesting they still have a performance gap in between

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Martin Thetford yeah I was only saying if there was a way to measure the dirty air. But the point you made about wind tunnels at tracks Is a good point that I didn’t think of.

I guess you mandate a certain value of downforce for the car in question to make available to a test rig within a wind tunnel. You don't need to use another car, just a peice of equipment at X distance behind it to measure how many KG's of downforce it can get at different positions. The set up track to track will be irrelevant to the testers, it's not their concern, only that the cars meet the criteria. It is for the team to get to grips with. It must make a certain amount of 'clean air' available to following cars. As for compliance, make it so that teams are required to submit their cars for testing on request and at random with no warning, straight from the track with no interference or argument. Immediate disqualification for teams who fail or refuse to do so. Failing that open up the underside of the car for development and keep the wings/bodywork simple.

Additionally, if the cars are designed in such a way to leave cleaner air in their wake, then ride height, wing angle and set up will not be an issue. Is it possible to make a small scale wind tunnel that can be driven around on a truck? Maybe a bit optimistic?

I literally cried when i read that twitter. Too funny!!

the problem with cost capping is obviously the big teams disagree with it because it affects them the most. They obviously do care about the sport but if it doesnt benefit them they wont like it

Yeah, I don't want that shit back, it was excting and everything, but racers died all the time, it was horrible.

Starfire Storm well there are actually some people who think motorsports casualty is normal. There are some actual monster thinking someone should die

Group B was amazing while it lasted, shame that the rally stages were so packed with people that the roads ahead of the car were full of people moments before the cars drove through.

group C ( 24h le mans) we can see what mean no rules in porshe 919 evo in spa in april :). too dangerous :/

There were more problems than just "fast cars".

I think that's important for (some) motorsports, but as I say: that comes with a balance. You've got to manage the side effects.

Maxim Dudich the Problem is it's not so easy with the big guys to implement: a) ferarri, rb and Mercedes willnot aproove a Budget cap (wich is why testig days have been limited) b) if you implement it: the advamtage of Mercedes an Ferrari is messive: they can test engines or parts in their supercars an claim they are Not for f1 but for prototypes of their car companies or other racing series. that prototype research might even be true or will happen just because of the valueable Info to f1 (just think of the advatage Mercedes hat with the v6 turbo introduced) And they have all the testing at Hand in house. Other companies would have to spend massive amounts of money to rent aoero facilities or other production/research places! How can you creat a Regulation free of cheating that Budget cap? I don't See one.

Maxim Dudich the issue with the budget cap is how will it be enforced though. For example, Mercedes has the largest R&D center in the world, so it can afford to throw f1 projects to it, and it cannot be controlled by the FIA due to the sensitive tech developed there, Ferrari and Renault could do the same thing, while the non manufacturers teams cannot. Actually, Mercedes already does it, they recently launched a car with a derated F1 engine, any data they achieve there can be used in their F1 car, and as it is a commercial product, it is not on the team's budget. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari and Renault follow suit soon.

FIA. Not Liberty

I think you should find a way teams 'want' to use less money. For example we know teams are not allowed to use more than 100 kg of fuel per hour. Let them use 120 kg when they prove their budget is less than €200k. Or if you want teams to innovate more give them 4.400.000 KiloJoule energy to start the race and lets say give them 5.000.000 KJ of energy if they prove they use less budget. If you do not write in the rules they have to use petrol, they might going to innovate to use other fuels. Connect it to the budget, and teams innovation will take off. They will use less budget to get more fuel. Also if the cars are to fast for safety reasons, give the teams less energy/fuel to use.

Definitely gonna make the case for it :)

Xavier Rodrigues And now, we can say Leclerc at Spa negates the need for any F2 justifications at all.

Sure, but because of that the side effects he highlights are way more manifest. Huge costs that drives teams away and dominance by a specific team are ever present in endurance racing and while I love WEC, F1 would not be what it is or be able to sustain itself as F1 were it to deal with constant state of turmoil sportscar racing does.

Issue with ground effect is that if the car bottoms out, bam - no more downforce, right when you need it. Extremely dangerous.

They just bought back ground effect (to a lesser extent than the old cars with the skirts) for next year in the hopes that it will do just that, you saw the future lol. Hopefully it won't suffer the same issue as it used to - instant large loss of downforce when going over a bump, as the commenter above said. But I'm sure they would have solved that and that's why it's more limited than back when cars had skirts and crazy amounts of ground-effect downforce.

I'd love to see some variation in the power units as long as they developed the same max power and torque figures. This would breed far more interesting sounds for fans, give engineers a lot to work with. I look back at old F1 and it seems more exciting because every machine had a different sound, there were V12s going against H16s and in the turbo era you would have straight 4 and V6 engines. The sound of the cars is rubbish these days and they all sound practically the same.

It´s not as simple as that. the whole car is affected by the wake, not just the front wing, so you´d have to put a full car in the back to correctly measure any neative effects. and that leads to the next problem: because you are trying to give aero designers more freedom, their cars will start to differ more, and different cars also react differently to the same wake. So practically you´d have to measure all cars against each other, and repeat the process each time that a small change was made, until everyone is within the guidelines. As for another solution, I would explore the concept of a standardized wake. Basically measuring vortecies and stream patterns with a good old smoke stream and a camera system hooked up to some kind of computer program, to determine and regulating the shape and size of the dirty air pattern behind the car. this would also be pleasant for engineers. since they would have a fixed stream pattern to work with, they could improve their own aero to work better within the wake of another car, making overtaking even easier for the driver. maybe this would even generate a tradeoff situation, where teams would have to choose between better undisturbed lap times, or better overtaking capabilities.

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First of all, you are assuming that he was talking about aircraft g-suits, when obviously they would be custom designed for racing, so would provide whatever support was needed, such as automatic helmet supports to prevent the helmet from flopping over from the gs. If there was no limits, certainly people would be making adjustable CG cars where the driver and engine moved to the side of the car on the inside of the curve, possibly even with the drivers seat angling to keep the head above the cg of the body, which would give similar forces to a fighter jet pilot. Then you add some rocket thrusters to turn the car faster, fans or rockets for additional down force on turns, etc, and yes, you could get to the point of needing a G suit! May you find frozen peas in your soup...