How does Greece's government justify a 6-day working week? | DW News 

And go where exactly ?

@@sawtooth808 it is funny, any European country or American country is better.

​@@sawtooth808 an absolutely absurd question. Literally anywhere else

@@tohellwithyourcrap8045not true, Greece is still better than anywhere in Africa, most parts of Central Asia and some of Central America, tho most eu countries plus American Australia etc are generally better

The fact is that young people are not doing anything to change this situation. In the European elections in June, abstention in Greece reached 60% for the first time in history and in the national elections last year it reached 50. So basically they want it and they get it...

Lazy Greeks 😅

Go work on cruise ships. 6 Months contracts with every day work. Zero days off! There are also 11 Months contracts.

W HY NOT 8 DAYS. LASY MILLENIUMS!!!!

I'm sure they can bring the work equipment home to continue and prepare for the next day.

@@SonnyDarvishzadeh work in their sleep, you'd make a good politician..🤣🤣

Adonis Georgiadis his not know to count

😄 Yes, I was so confused/surprised when I read that title!

They put the I on the wrong side of V... those silly Greek politicians

A lot of things have been misunderstood in Greece 😔

The goal was simply to see how much can be done within 4 days, and introduce 6 days week, if half quit they sure the other half can get the job done within 6 days.

The children thing is so they can increase taxes.

All governments are doing this now. ‘Everyone just needs a second job!’

“We need people to have more children” = we need more consumers so the rich can get richer

No time to have kids , now carry your chain and go to work until you drop

Indeed. Talk about throwing away your future for some money here and now.

I mean...not that it was going in a good direction in Greece anyway...or in the West in general

Half the time for a social life outside of work. That will really encourage much needed baby making.. smh 🤦‍♂️

As if Greece’s demographics aren’t already bad enough

Our demographics are long gone anyway

23%

It's called a skills mismatch

It's called lack reskill initiatives​@@reardelt

They don't want to pay the amount they should, that's why there's a high rate of unemployment. No one wants to go to work if they don't get paid enough to exist in a human way

23% unemployment

25 hours schedule

Don't put them ideas...😂

Year after: Greeks are now allowed to stop working, work in their sleep and work everywhere 24 hours a day 7 days a week

And 3 day weekend! 😂

We walk 5 times a week, and sleep 10 times a day

It is why we are falling behind worldwide. There is no growth in Europe anymore. Go to some Asian countries that are growing massively and you will see their work ethics are much better.

@@ThaAidry bull...i live in Asia and even China is having an issue, its in the news. People are getting fed up of working till they drop. Everywhere educated people are wanting more then just work. Europe is falling behind because of our governments polices or lack of.

⁠​⁠@@ThaAidry According to what metric are they much better? Profits for the business owners? Who gives a damn they already make bank. I rather we focused on improving the conditions of the workers instead so they can afford to live and have children which isn’t really the case in those Asian countries you are talking about. I wonder how much China and South Korea will grow in a decade now that the population is declining, my guess is they will not grow at all especially South Korea. China can still improve its gdp per capita a bunch but at some point it’ll lose its cheap competitiveness so it really needs to start changing its growth model.

With automation and mass production, it should be 5 hour workdays (15 hour workweeks) according to economist John Maynard keynes. "If you beggar your neighbour, you may very well beggar yourself." -JM keynes "If you enacted policies against the people, you're asking for a communist revolution." - unk

@@ad_astra468 I agree. However, even low growth in China is still much more than we have had the past decades. I was also think more about south east Asian countries like Malaysia for example. Improving working conditions is important and profits should benefit everyone. Making this a zero sum game is not helpful for anyone.

No hes in television all the time give your love to the man of this idea Adonis Georgiadis !!

I once worked at a company with an executive who consistently worked 12 hour days, but he did it because he didn't like his family life. He put in tons of hours and was still never prepared for his presentations.

Yeah, remotely remote.

Australia needs more skilled workers, come over here and earn more money and work less hours. The people should not have to pay the price for their government's economic mismanagement. Unacceptable. This will be a classic example of the cobra effect in play, nobody in this day and age should bend over and accept this. It's anti-social.

@@xAPxZiggy as I saw on RU-vid, Australia is suffering from housing shortage and cost of living crisis. is it true?

@@gizemlikisi6213 There's this amazing thing launched two decades ago called Google. If you want to ask people, there's this another amazing thing launched also two decades ago called Reddit

@@xAPxZiggy I live in the USA, how`s wages to house price ratios?

​@@gizemlikisi6213it has been suffering from those issues for close to 20 years. Things were already bad when I was living there 2009-2011. Can't imagine how bad the situation is now

10% unemployment is still high compared to many EU countries. YOUTH Unemployment is still pretty bad. Despite over a million people leaving.

When they actually have a labor shortage wages will rise without government intervention.

@@paxundpeace9970 the jobs are only in tourism, so you are waiter or nothing

Unemployment is still high af. They just cook the numbers so it's shown as lower. Same with economic growth. The Greek state is a mess.

Without us they have a ground to do what they want.i believe that young people will protest.however one dangerous problem of this generation and the one before us has learnt that doing nothing other than believing wolves dressed up as sheeps is a good thing(which it isn't) so i don't have exactly high expectations for a substantial resistance. We will do what we can.

lol. Capitalism.

​@@Nun195 Done wrong.

"computers would do all the work and humans would have more leisure time" - automation and AI is a threat under capitalism because the working class loses the minimum remaining bargaining power they have. but under socialism, automation and AI is nothing to be feared but instead to be embraced to improve living standards and elevate the society in maslow's hierarchy of needs.

yeah, but they rather have the profits now.

Human nature. It seems to me *every* advance in technology is leveraged to improve the lot of those who own and run said technology, not customers and certainly not the lives of people in general... ...when was the last time anyone noted a change in technology that made them think "That was really helpful." That time is long-gone.

That's the plan.

I was thinking the contrast of this as well. Where discussion in many other countries circles around 4 day week, Greek choose the opposite route. Shouldn't be surprise to anyone that this will not attract more workforce into the country. Oh well. Not my problem after all...

As in productive laziness?

​@@AstroBear11 😂 what is that factual 😅

​@@AstroBear11Lmfao

Productivity per hour probably, not overall?

Europeans already look older than their actual age.

@@AstroBear11 Oof 😖

Greeks already age fast.

@@ButterflyG673 but everyone does these days, gen Z and Gen alpha alone look mature

Here in Eastern Europe, we had 6 work week during the communist era, everything was perfect, no one complained. Literally, no one was allowed to complain.

Yep 💯

Yep, next they’ll try to get rid of child labor laws or raise the retirement age to 70.

@@juancarlosalonso5664 they are going to raise it to 72 when are people gonna wake up in greece and change from voting ND and Pasok

Turkey BAYRAKTAR u scared haha

​@@juancarlosalonso5664In the US we have several states weakening child labor laws. There are now multiple states where 14 year olds can work night shift.

Greece is the 1st debt trap country and this is the results

I don't live in Greece, I've only been there on holiday. But I've got a couple of things to say to this: Greece has a very low retirement age. Somewhere around 55 (+/- a couple of years; I think it's lower). While people get older, so the elder population grows. Greece has had (has) many economic problems, and got a lot of EU economic aid. A local Greek told me: _"With this money we bought big Mercedes cars. Now the money is spent. We ourselves are now on our own forced to solve the problems we made for ourselves. That's how we chose it to be"._ One can agree or not, but this was his local opinion. I guess the 6-day work week is one way to try to solve their economic problems. Few voters would agree to raise the retirement age. But they have to do... something. EU won't fund any more Mercedes.

You are lying out of you @ss. The retirement age is *NOT* 55 years. It's one of the highest in Europe. At 67! Whoever told you (if it's even real)​, that Greeks bought expensive cars with that money etc., was just playing with you. Greeks have the oldest cars in the EU. The cars are on average 19 years old. The cars are on average small with high mileage.

Europeans must work more. Zelensky needs money.

​@@HinduGirl011 No 👎 we have had enough

They will get 3 now because people will get exhausted

You're thinking office workers. Greece has a service-based economy, and the move is a gift to tourism related businesses and grocers. There's not a lot of slacking flex on these sort of jobs

@@diametheuslambdasure. But there is being sick three days a week…

@@Paul-uy1ru This isn't nominal, these are actual worked hours, excluding leaves but capturing some of the off-book worked hours.

Working more is not slavery lol

@@lukazupie7220 Yes, Massa.

@@B-B-W-Engel back to work now, boy😁

@@lukazupie7220 yes it is

@@1ycan-eu9ji by what definition? If i work for my own company, and i work for 6 days a week, am i enslaving myself?😀

Do you think the government care?

@@efthimischrtk well they will start to " care " when the population marriage and birth rates goes down and that in turn will have problems to cover any social security / pensions when people get old. Japan can be one example.

@@andangsudradjat7379 its already happening and its already too late lol

It's already 40% lower than the EU average. I can talk from experience, I don't wanna give my 100% to an employer who pays me less than I need to even survive the month

@@andangsudradjat7379 that's what the government wants to work like dogs

What country is that?

*They are at work the most hours in the EU

Lol

You mean you are treated almost like a slave and very underpaid and constantly threatened with being fired

this is the same issue in Eastern Europe. people think it;s due to the wages, but the entire system is corrupt. and in some locations you need to pay bribes to get a job, it's that bad

My country is the same, nepotism, corruption on government and people get hired for who they know even if they are completely inept.

@@SM-ce1uy And the legacy of communism lives on.

​@@shauncameron8390It is not the legacy of communism. It is the legacy of poverty.

It's funny because people are not aware that in Greece, we already work 6 days, in many jobs during the summer season it's even 7/7. The thing is it isn't registered, so on paper Greeks worked like 4 hours 2-3 days per week, whereas in reality they worked 10-12 hours 6 days or 7 days.

USGR (Union of Socialist Greek States) is the future 😂

there is not going to be a revolution, the unions are long part of the government

😆 🤣

Greece is speed running facism

Never. This won't last. You can't control Hellenes.

This all makes it more likely that greeks emigrate

But more money people have less kids they have, no?

As a Greek, let me just say that the country has been running on "short term" solutions for the past 40+ years. Our politicians are both incapable and unwilling to operate on timescales of more than a couple of months. One of the many reasons the country's been doing "great" for so long…

Yes, increasing the people's workload is rather antithetical to solving the demographic decline. Forcing people to work more will leave them with less time, energy, and inclination for other pursuits, including lovemaking.

How are you gone have time for yourself.

Agency workers in UK already working 6-7 days 12 h shift's, no overtime pay.

Greece has and will continue to be a lesson of what not to do

11% of Greek jobseekers have a zero day work week. They should probably fix that before tinkering with something that was worked for over a century. Then they can move to a four day work week like the rest of us should

I reflect and agree.

Do you know anyone who approves of this? Did people vote for this?

@@Vic-ek1fv Yes these policies have huge support over in greece the people elected them with 41%

@@trampakoulas Sure.

​@@trampakoulasReap what you sow 🎉😂

Lots of heads 'bout to roll.

6 day work week = conservative government Acts of Immunity = justices put in place by Republicans That's the answer. Republicans. That's who is destroying America. I don't like Biden, but I would NEVER vote to destroy America.

Your optimism is amusing.

​@@BufordDuckworth you fon't know the greeks, do you ?

Lol, no.

Vote for fascists, get fascism. Not a huge surprise.

@@bmacpher how is 6 working days fascism?

@@lukazupie7220 shhhhh... you don't get to ask questions or have a voice. that's fascism

@@lukazupie7220 part of the definition of fascism is, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Sounds like being forced to work more than you already are or loose your job for the good of the nation falls into that definition. Either way it’s a boneheaded move by the government and it will fail spectacularly.

Why would only they profit?

The employee benefits as well since nowadays those same businesses employ people to work for 5 days on paper and make a "deal" with the employee to work another day (6th) illegally and be paid "under the table". This law will provide the employee with legal backing to ensure that he is being paid fairly in case of a 6 day work (pay rate for the 6th day increases between +40% to +115%), include that extra day to his future retirement/pension plan (increase his/her future pension), be paid more in case of layoffs. Also we must note that this is NOT mandatory and only specific businesses can apply for this.

@@Ghanfort Lets hope that woild be the truth.

​@@Ghanfortwhere have you seen that in Greece it doesn't happen , everything is legal

They want the workforce to be slaves just like back in the economic crisis

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The government just got a big bonus from their elite friends. Most of them will not need to work even an hour in their life. Their children probably too. Maybe their grandchildren also? 🤔

I love how the ONLY criticism here is toward the government and not the businesses who are pulling the strings to make this happen.

Other nations they dont have Adonis Georgiadis

@@sogoblade723 It's not just him lol

👍

This because population collapse . There are not many young people to pay taxes And pay for retirees

Slavery is when you can’t leave, has nothing to do with hours👍😀

@@lukazupie7220 in my opinion, it is modern day slavery if you work long hours with little to low pay which is barely enough to cover your daily living cost.

You also need to include working unscheduled hours and being on call day and night to work those shifts. A lot of people work random hours and are kept from full time hours so they don`t have to pay healthcare.

@@andangsudradjat7379 words have meaning, not everything is a matter of opinion.👍😀

China maybe

Switzerland, Denmark

Zimbabwe : Ahem!

China 😂😂😂😂

​@-schattenpflanze-3755 what did you have bro? I also want some! 😂😂😂 china 😂😂😂 you're trippin real hard dude

Governments soon put a stop to that one ..😂

Other countries will continue to push for 4 day work week once they see the damage done to Greece

You don't have a Adoni Georgiadi the legend who think this idea

That's why China is winning...

They spent decades brainwashing Westerns to have less children to save the Environment.

Imposing or allowing, once you'd change the definition so 6 day work week is "full-time" and 5 days "part-time" the social stigma alone is sorta imposed, let alone how little flexibility employees have, "can you work 6 days a week for me?", "no, actually I have preference for working 4 days a week", obviously the labor market doesn't work like this

Its not imposed in any way. Only certain businesses can make use of this measure, currently the same businesses employ on paper people for 5 days a week and require them to work 6 days illegally due to not being able to find workers and they are paying the employees for the 6th day "under the table". This measure will at least try to mitigate/control this phenomenon since the employee that works for 6 days will now have the legal backing to be payed more (pay rate for the 6th day increases between +40% to +115%), include those extra days in his retirement plan (increasing his future pension) etc.

@@Ghanfort - thank you for the explanation.

​@@Ghanfort why would they have to be paid under the table? Do they not have a concept of overtime? I work 60hrs week in five days. I get paid my hourly rate for the first 40hrs then 1.5x my hourly rate for every hour after.

We have to consider that Greece has an extremely low retirement age (which few voters will agree to change), and has huge economic problems (maybe for the same reasons). EU bailed them out many times, but instead they spent the money on Mercedes cars (according to local Greek people I spoke to). So if they don't wanna work for a longer time, they might have to work more while in the working age to get the job done. I'm just guessing.

​@@larsrons7937Extremely low retirement age in Greece??? It's at 67 years-old, ffs!

​@@larsrons7937that's what socialism did to people since 80's

Pov- Greek Retirement Age:67 And now some people are to retire in 74

And i don’t support it btw.

All the other countries will fall too, especially with mass immigration and Technocracy. Theres basically no point in living anymore. Like cant buy a house, cant buy even an Apartment, cant have children, cant go on vacation. Need a Masters degree or a special trade because all else is worthless. Cant get a loyal, traditional girlfriend because the Modern Women is untrustworthy, mentally unstable and can monkeybranch of to a better guy at any given point.

Which government do you see actually care about the country and the people? They are just filling their own pockets. 😂

@@wonderwhy2335 It has nothing to do with caring about people. But countries whos people in government have wisdom solve problems like worker shortages and productivity with incentives not hardships. Every country which has freedoms understands that you can only solve problem with promise to improve citizens quality of life, and increase problems by destroying peoples quality of life.

More and more EU countries will follow suit as time goes on. They are ALL experiencing population decline, lowered productivity, and financial instability. You can’t escape from this as it’s an inevitable end state of capitalism.

most people in greece work 12-15 hour shifts 7/7 already so ..🤣

It's 4-days/10 hours equivalent to 5days/8 hours that's being experimental here in the US. its increased productivity and happier workers with 3-day weekends.

@@larryc1616 All good, thanks for the info

Implementing the signs of civilization collapse and call it a progress is the most modern society thing ever. MY GOD, WE'RE DONE!

Implementing the signs of civilization coll*pse and call it a progress is the most modern society thing ever. MY GOD, WE'RE DONE!

Something tells me that Germany might have something to do with Greek downfall.

At all.

rightfully so. who tf wants a mandated 6 days a week. Society is already ruined....lets speed it up lol

The news anchor is probably already a millionaire. So don’t read too much into how they express themselves.

Lol no

In some sectors , nurses , policemen , firefighters , coast guards already years the 6 day week is established in Greece

The plan applies to private businesses that provide 24-hour services and some retail and agricultural workers. For some businesses in industry and manufacturing, workers can choose between adding hours to their workdays or working an extra shift.

No this for the suckers the government and others they don't work we are not the same how a man like me who is broke can be like Adonis Georgiadis who is the legend of lantzieris and the man how can be every day in tv not in the same channel but everyday and this is his masterpiece.

Because the older generations pissed it all away living the comfortable but unsustainable life.

I agree. How about NO WORK.

@@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583 Ha ha.

Agree

AI and robots will soon be our slaves.

i am currently unemployed i dont mind working 5 days a week 7.5 hours a day paid for 8 and my job was not a easy one labouer so

​@@joesmith8701, I work 8 hours a day, 4 days a week, but I only work because I have to eat and pay the bills like anyone else. Nevertheless, I must admit that anyone who only works because they have to is a slave. I am a slave. In your case, if you do not have to work but you choose to work, then you will not be a slave because it is your choice. I have no choice, for me it is work or die.

No way. Everyone loves 4 days/10hours in America if given the choice.

Exactly.

Can you explain for me please 🙂🤔

@RaySmith-zg7od, the Japanese and Americans work much longer hours...In the US many work multiple jobs

they laugh because they've been out of tears for decades.

@@MusehanaHbecause they want to make money not because they have to!

And because this will help with paying their pensions at the expense of their youth

leonidas is sparta not the girl-boys of greece

Spartans trained all week…

Leonidas had helots working 7 days a week

Spartan children were taken from their families at 5 years old, trained every day for years, they can't marry until they are 30 years old and evert child they have will be taken by the state again. I'm sure Leonidas will consider this only a move in the right direction.

@@odenat3701 and their debt at ECB was 0, so it worked 😅