How Elemental Proved The Internet Wrong 

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I feel like if this movie were to be made and released like a decade or so ago people wouldn’t be so pressed about it

The problem with race allegories done like this is that race isn’t really a thing. It’s not like one person is water and one person is fire, it’s more like one person is saltwater and one person is freshwater. There are no physiological differences between different people, but we divide ourselves on what we see on the outside

Guarantee if this move were made last decade, it would be praised. Not that it wouldn't be deserved, the real-world applications are no joke, the message is there, and it's great. Not to mention, it's literally reverse fireboy and watergirl, haha.

I genuinely loved this movie. Shame it’s massively underperforming cause I do think there’s an audience for this. Maybe when it hits Disney+

The movie was pretty much what I expected, gorgeous visuals with a generic yet entertaining story and characters, it manage to convey a simple message and remain enjoyable through most of its duration. Although I understand why many are disappointed by the movie as a whole, this is an original from Pixar so the expectations are always high...

Considering Disney’s films have been mediocre at best for the past 3 years, I’m really not surprised people weren’t all that interested in this one.

I was really worried about the allegory for interracial relationships in this movie because it seemed like it'd fall into a pretty common pitfall a lot of allegories like this falls into, justifying discrimination/separation of races. It unfortunately played into this idea pretty heavily with Ember being a walking hazard to many people around her but also being constantly threatened by water. To make the relationship work both Wade and Ember have to live a fundamentally different and way more difficult life than if they were in a relationship with someone of the same element. The idea that the initial happiness of an interracial couple will lead to life long misery is an idea heavily pushed by racist individuals. Similarly, the 2 are happy together but any misstep could seriously hurt or kill Ember. The way their relationship is depicted is that they're this exception to a rule rightfully designed to protect people rather than showing how the rule itself is nonsense. Ik I'm definitely overanalyzing a silly kids movie but it feels like so many children movies/shows try to tackle discrimination but just prove why segregation should be allowed while showing the main characters as exceptions to the rule.

It has come to my conclusion that Disney just don’t care about animation anymore which is ironic. Their live-action remakes got more marketing than their original animated projects. Even something like Peter Pan and Wendy that was a streaming release had more marketing than Strange World. Not to mention that Elementals barely is talked about compared to The Little Mermaid. I’m glad Across the Spider-Verse is beating those box office numbers and i will watch Elementals in theaters because it looks cool imo. Pixar should go back to do more original stuff than just doing sequels, prequels or spin-offs (Unless is something related to The Incredibles).

I genuinely wonder if any of Pixar’s classics were made today, people would give them the exact same response as Elemental, people would probably say that Toy Story’s plot was “the story is too simple, doesn’t have much to say” if the film were to have been made today, hell remember when Finding Nemo kept getting reviews back in 2003 saying it “wasn’t as good as Pixar’s other films, it’s too episodic, it’s Pixar’s weakest film” and nowadays it’s hailed as a classic? Even Pete Doctor mentioned recently that “people are criticizing us by our own stuff, like “it’s not as good as my favorite Pixar film””. People need to stop being so harsh on Pixar, because it seems like every other film that they’ve made keeps getting reviews saying each is weaker than the last and then a decade later is hailed as a masterpiece.

I thought it was a really cute movie, don’t understand why people seem to think all movies need to be something groundbreaking to be good, sometimes a simple story and go a long way yknow? Very wholesome film! ❤

People said it would be a flop and this movie proved them wrong by.....by having one of the worst opening weekends in pixar history?

“The movie proved the internet wrong!” *Movies bombs* Yeah, it sure did *wrong* the internet.

I only get frustrated with race allegories that try to mix magic concepts because it's so hard not to cross a weird line with it. you wind up semi-implying that these two types of people are genuinely dangerous to one another if you aren't careful with the writing. it makes the xenophobia sound like the logical stance if you think about it for too long imo. I feel like having them discover they can touch after all is a lazy fix. also Ember Lumen is the laziest name they could have come up with T_T despite all those words those are two pretty tiny nitpicks and I am glad so many people are loving it!

I love this movie. I just wish people gave movies like this a chance before judging it

I saw this movie in theaters, and absolutely adored it! I just wish people gave it a chance before hating on it just because it didn't look like Spider-Verse.

Someone is high on copeium. Movie is a box office disaster.

I hope this gets the same treatment as Puss in Boots 2 where it starts slow at the box office and becomes a success overtime

Personaly I love this film, not only because of the gorgeous animation and shading but also because I really relate to Ember because I am to from a family of immigrant. The only criticism I have with this movie is the ending honestly because it’s really unsatisfying to see Ember just leave her family to work in some far away place, I would have preferred an ending where she and Wade take over the shop and have some sort of new glassware section so Ember can honour her first goal while still enjoying her life with Wade, maybe even have a scene where her, Wade, her dad and mom go back to fire land to reconnect with her family and introduce Wade to more of the fire people culture, but idk maybe they thought it would be too complicated for kids to have such an ending

I'm pretty sure there are people out there who have grown up not ever being told interracial relationships were abnormal or not allowed by their parents, so I can definitely see a person like Wade existing. Reminds me of My Dress Up Doll where the girl is very encouraging and enthusiastic of the guy's hobby. People like this do exist and I hope there are more people like them in the future.

I really liked this movie. I went to see it opening night because I want more Pixar films in theaters!

I feel like the problem is that all the movies are just good they're not doing anything experimental. They're aiming to please not excel.

Why would anyone use this movie as an allegory for race or racism? If that is what the movie was made for, then good lord is it pro-segregation.

I really think the marketing was what put people off. Marketing these days is poor for a lot of movies. Almost all fail to capture the movies feel without selling you on the plot and the end

I honestly, to my surprise, actually enjoyed watching this movie. While not perfect, it's still very fun to watch; and some scenes were emotional enough to touch me. The animation is unique, the story is good, and the characters are fun. And the chemistry between Wade and Ember is pretty believable, because it does take its time to develop it - even if you can tell almost right away. And I suppose their personalities almost match their elements: Ember has trouble with her fiery temper, while Wade tends to be a sympathy cryier. To me, Wade and Emver have one of the most realistic relationships in a Disney movie, because while you can tell there is something between them, they still start off as good friends, and confirm their love near the end of the movie; this becoming a real couple. They say opposites attract, and that's very true in their case - but they also have things in common. The moment when Ember met Wade's family was fun to watch because it showed how far society has come to accepting others; and yes, the game where Wade made Ember cry for the first time was very touching because it what sparked their true feeling for each other. It would have been nice to hear more about Wade's father; like what can of man he was, what he did for a living, and what caused their relationship to drift away. It also would have been nice to see more of Clod, he definitely should of had a bigger role. I also wish they explained more of the crack in the dam - did it just get old, or was it caused by something? The part where Ember and Wade have an argument over their differences, that I also wish could of had a bit more attention. I mean, Ember got her say on how she feels, but Wade never really explained his point of view. Maybe he could have told Ember that just because he comes from luxury, he never truly did what he wanted because of everything his father expected of him growing up - and his dying wish was for Wade to find his own path. Also, Wade could have told Ember that the reason his family has money is because of how much work they put into making a life for their families. Overall, I did enjoy the movie. And I actually thought that Wade died in the end - but it's Disney; they don't do that. And I'm actually glad they didn't. It would have been nice to see more of Ember and Wade's childhood. Maybe have them cross each other's paths multiple times, but never actually interacted. If there's ever a sequel...I'd watch it. Maybe it could be about Wade and Ember getting married and starting a family.

internet expected it to underperform and its underperforming, so is not proving the internet wrong. In my case im sick tired of movies made to lecture the viewer plus the movie looks saturated as F, dont know who thought it was a good idea throwing the most quantity of characters on the screen and have em in the foreground all the time :s

I mean my father is married to a black women who I respect cause she's not an ass. That's about it I don't praise it nor do I think it's "revolutionary.". Love is normal and yet people treat it as so abnormal within black dating whites and interracial that they put those relationships on a predistal. Which we shouldn't. These people in these relationships want to be just left alone usually and be treated as any relationship. Not being demeaned nor being praised. It's love!

People forget not every movie needs to be a super engaging experience and sometimes, just offering the experience of going to the theaters is just as good as emotionally rich and rewarding story. I loved the new Spiderverse movie but mainly because I saw it with friends in theaters. I'm sure it's no Toy Story or Encanto but it looks simple and cute enough to give the intended audience a pleasant theater experience

I haven't seen the movie yet but it feels like a world in Kingdom hearts.

Tbh, if Wade was more unsure and immature as I expected after trailers, I would be not only annoyed,but bored. Strong emotions and not being shy about them is seen(at least in my country and/or where I live) as immature(read:bad) and to be 'out-grown' instead of understanding them, maybe even making use of it. Wade's design and personality at first remind of weak,mellow,unsure guy. Ya know "toxic masculinity"? Yeah...so Wade being emotional,yet firm in what he's doing and believes while being mature and as you said kiiinda handholding the starting relationship is... Man,that's just awesome to me. Maybe because I found love with a man who wanna keep strong,masculine image as Viking at heart yet he's mellow,protective and anxcious about me with little fragile body and artistic,sensitive heart.

I saw the article that they have the worst release of Pixar’s decade history. Reaching just $29.5million at the box office lol

5:07 the issue is that bigotry never really is "rational" , which is a trap alot of racism allegories fall into. They look at the excuses irl bigots make and take them at face value.

I completely agree, though I did definitely relate way more to Wade being simultaneously incompetent, and capable... and falling for the first girl to give him the time of day. Ember was his spark... his shot of confidence to put the "odd jobs" he did to actual work... that's why he's only confident around people who can offer stability... a conscience, of sorts. It makes perfect sense why Ember would be super reluctant too, even without the added "fire" family pressure, because she's messed up everything she's ever attempted, when it comes to reading people, and definitely has trust issues... add that to the whole fire/water dynamic, and it's beautiful. But yeah, completely agree about Ember and her father... I nearly cried I was so happy. Also completely agree this film doesn't deserve the hate... I've seen it twice now... and it's just such a wholesome story. Yes it's nothing new... no it's not going to blow your mind or rip your heartstrings out... but it's a good film, and it's great to see Pixar back in theaters. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather watch "the same old story" in theaters, than at home... it's just better. Take care my friend!

I have literally 0 problem with it, in one right now myself in fact, but it really just seems like the entire movie is a thinly veiled metaphor for interracial relationships lol

If this movie was made a decade ago by Pixar, all the factors you mentioned would have been better implemented.

Visuals don't save a boring story

My friend and I loved Elemental... many jokes about how after Ember's mother found out Wade and her were together, she was like "Finally, you can give me some grandkids!"

When does this movie comes on Disney+?

The plot just looked boring to me. I’ll probably wait until it’s on Disney plus.

Apparently it didn’t do too good at proving that because it had the lowest Pixar opening ever.

Am I the only one who interprets the movie as not being about race at all? I interpret as people of different core personalities, as in the belief that people with "fire personality" doesn't mix with people with "water personality" and so on. (This doesn't have anything to do with the zodiac though the resemblance is there.)

I genuinely liked this film, it kinda shown difference between people and all that. Ember was my favorite 😮

This movie was EXACTLY what I expected, nothing less, nothing more. I really enjoyed it, generic story but an entertaining way of doing it. It was beautiful and lovely I watch. While it was a mediocre 7/10, in the same vein of the Mario Movie, if mediocre is a 7/10 for Pixar, I’m hopeful for the future, unlike the people who just complain, I think they deliver. Turning Red was amazing in my opinion. And the Elio trailer looks REALLY good.

I loved the movie. Ember and Wade’s love story was so beautiful and heartwarming. I cried a lot.

It just doesnt appeal to me.

I find kinda sad how Disney/Pixar have had a reputation for making mid, safe movies. They're had some Bad movies like Cars 2, Good Dinosaur and Lightyear. And some polarizing ones like Luca and Turning Red. But they can still make really good stuff. I get it's mainly because of movies like Spiderverse and PIB 2 using diferents animation Styles and taking more risks in storytelling. But like, I don't really think Pixar is that bad.

I just got an ad for Elemental before the video started

I didn't like the movie cuz at this point this whole allegory thing dosnt work Disney you want to make a movie bout racism just make a movie bout racism don't try to make it all cutesy with animals or elements cuz the message dosnt translate through that Yes predators eat pray and yes fire burns things, if your message is overlook those things and nothing bad will ever happen then that says alot bout the directors or Disney's opinions on the argument, that some "allegory for certain race" are just naturally more destructive and dangerous and that's okay Not that's not a good message for kids I genuinely think it's one the same level or even lower than osmosis John's and the way that movie handles the idea of "race"

Proving anyone wrong has nothing to do with how poorly it's doing in theaters

I'm still skipping it. Not out of moral objection, but because it's such a *done-to-death* formula even just within Disney-Pixar. I just feel like... if you've seen Wreck-It Ralph or Inside Out, you've seen Elemental.

Bruh, I had an Elemental ad before this video even started.

"Its not that bad" is not what pixar was shootin for tho

If the movie is as good as you say it is then that's a shame sense it's currently Pixar's worst performing film yet as far as the box office goes. On one hand their original films flopping is bad because it will push them toward making more sequels but on the other hand Disney is to blame for it not doing well with their recent string of mediocre movies and controversies not to mention their failed advertising for this movie.

If wade and ember had kids the would be similar to the cloud element because when Fire and Water mix they make stream and if they made a second one I’m curious to see what it can do

I agree when you said "Elemental could've had deeper topics that'll make their connection more in depth" (I'm paraphrasing the quote). I think if it was rated PG-13 it'll touch on deeper subjects related to that. Regardless, when I first watched Elementals, it was really good on 1) how to break the stigma of two concenting people can't be in a relationship (interracial relationships, LGBTQ+ relationships, and probably polygamy relationships), 2) how hard it is for anyone to open up especially for a person who's constantly keeping their guard up, and 3) knowing that galling in love can be scary you shouldn't push is away, or run away from it.

Apparently this movie became a success in the international markets and is the best performing Disney animated film since Frozen 2 in 2019 lol

In the last month the film has slowly but surely made more than 300 million at box office. It now is projected to make at least 400 million

The only time where the race allegory got me was the opening. Not just when Embers parents are speaking a different language when they first arrive, but when the dude on the desk ask for their names, and he couldn't understand what he was saying, decided to just GIVE them their names instead if leaving their (birth? Idk how it works in this film.) name alone... I might be looking WAY too deep into it, but it kinda reminds of when white people kidnapped black folks from their homes into America and then replaced their birth names with the names they gave them.

I'm just kind of tired of the race allegory. Between Zootopia, Luca, Beastars, X-men and many others, it seems to be the same basic ideas without any real nuance.

Funny enough, I got an ad for Elemental before the video

Elemental is really soothing, sure it not going to do well in the box office since people are mostly into spider-man, and the flash on the same weekend night. But I actually love the romance with Wade and Ember. Sure Wade can’t keep up a job but he very good at reading people more because he’s a sensitive guy. He can picks up Ember’s feelings which something Ember wants when she can’t express since she scared of hurting her father. Maybe for a long time she thought she can handle the family business but she felt pressured by multiple rude customers which is relatable to due to I work at a grocery store during the pandemic 😢

i love this movie, not one of their best movies but it’s definitely not the worse. this movie is better than most of the recent movies that have premiered and does not deserve the hate its receiving whatsoever. it contains somewhat stuff that disney/pixars movies have been lacking these few years. this film was also able to connect with audience that had been going through similar problems or are going through them. as a point of view i seen this story as immigrant parents moving from one place to another (a different state, country, etc.) and hoping the best for their children with that, having way too high hopes for their children to achieve. Amber is shown as a the “child” of the immigrant parents who is afraid to disappoint due to her parents having to sacrifice everything they’ve ever known from where they came from like family and the way their home used to work to give their child a better future than from what Amber could of had received if they would of had stayed. therefore she decides to go with her parents “dream” of running management of the shop being a “tradition” and decides to sacrifice her own love life and childhood out of guilt. (once again, my point of view) however, i think this movie could of been better with plotting. I love the design and the “we can’t be together but we’ll get through with this” relationship, i also love that they used a lauv song.

Well, the Rotten Tomatoes audience score being in the 90s range is a good sign, but this movie could've been better if Pixar wasn't rushed to make it.

3:03 I think that Wade’s maturity makes a lot of sense. He’s just really in tune with his emotions so he’s able to figure it out more. I think the more you feel, the more you think about why you feel - he has a lot of emotional maturity. I think it was refreshing to see an overly-emotional guy who isn’t a total wreck. He’s not ashamed to be emotional and it seems to work out well for him. He doesn’t bottle his emotions or put up a wall. I think it’s why Ember and Wade work. I don’t think it would’ve fit if he was vague, unsure, or inexperienced, he is a full grown adult. I understand the whole two characters working themselves out together might be more appealing but, Ember was our main protagonist. With the way the POV is set up, I think it makes sense that we only see Ember’s progression through Wade’s influence.

This movies gonna be a cult classic for sure i can only see a certain type of person enjoying it after the movie is out of theaters

Bro I littlery Got a elemental ad before this video played 💀

I loved this movie! It gave me hope that Pixar/Disney can still release a story that’s fun, engaging, and beautiful.

Literally got an Elemental advert before this video. Nice work Jay

Can't wait to see how it fits into the Pixar Theory!!!

No offense but this aged like milk.

Should have been a fireboy and watergirl movie

Image if this movie was produced by netflix or illumination - it would be instant hit.

Alpha Jay, it doesn't matter whether or not the movie proved the internet wrong. A majority of the people refuse to see the movie due to Pixar's previous mistakes and for being out of touch with the audience. As of now I think that a massive amount of the damage is done. But aside from that I think the movie did awesome in my opinion. Though it's a pity they didn't't release this before Lightyear and Strange World. There would've been such a difference in the Box Office.

Honestly its underated only because not many people saw it since for some reason they barely had any marketing for the movie :/

Bombed at box office, it looked so generic i didn't bother to watch it. The dad puns in trailer didnt help

In the words of immortan joe, I found this movie MEDIOCREEEEEEEE

Movies like this make me wish america produced stuff like akira or attack on titan. You know, actual adult stories with beautiful animation rather than Romeo and Juliet with a glass of water and a matchstick with the most banal racial commentary ever

It just feels like the same kind of story we seen a load of time in such a short timeframe. Like they could have taken a lot more risks to break from the same by the numbers movie...movie

These race allegories typically never work because often in these movies, zootopia, elemental, etc. The creators always make there be a valid reason for them to NOT be together, which doesn’t apply to real life. Foxes ARE predators to bunnies. There’s no real life equivalency to this which is why people don’t like these race allegories in animated movies that don’t use humans.

I agree with you Bernie and Ember relation was the best part. Really like the movie, even if it's not perfect (cloud and earth characters or I don´t like or don´t have showed perspective of them about fire), I really like it

Hot Take: From what I’ve seen, the characters look kinda ugly. personally

I think the real problem with the box office is that animated movies, just like animated shows, have become so much more competitive. Like the movie is visually great and has a decent story, but when you put it next to spider verse and puss in boots that just wont cut it anymore (unless you're a master of marketing of course)

I put Elemental in my Pixar top 10. Loved it! Granted it does have its flaws. I do agree with you that the racism focus was a little weak, which is why it isn't number #1, that will always belong to WALL-E 😉. I think though it was clearly established that fire faces xenophobia because they are the newest element (Ember is only second generation) and because they are the most destructive. I can't figure out how air and water can die, they seem invincible! 😂. Anyway, i'm not saying more scenes of it shouldn't have been included, I would have like to have seen that, but i'm satisfied with what we got. I will argue, respectively, that Wade did grow as a character during this movie. In a real life relationship, the couple is supposed to learn and grow from one another. Ember obviously did, since she is the focus, but Wade did too. He learned to live his life to its potential, take risks rather than just go from one job to the next like he said. This is why he pushs Ember and also fights for their relationship. Wade also, because of his social class difference, didn't understand Ember's struggles. He learns however the importance of culture from Ember, ending up risking his life for something that he has no knowledge of, but he knows is important. So I wouldn't say he was all mature, he had room to grow and did so.

I watched Turning Red for the first time a couple days ago, and while I wouldn't say it's a top-tier Pixar film, I still really enjoyed it, and it proved to me that Pixar can still put out quality movies. Unfortunately, this looks very mediocre, and it's not a good look for Pixar considering their previous release was Lightyear, and since then Puss in Boots and Spiderverse have released to critical acclaim.

Well people are tired to see the some formula that disney and pixar had made which is why most people don't care for this film. Let's see how the box office do well.

You need to read the book "Unlikely Friends", is very interesting and they respond your questions

I don't want to go see this movie, as I don't find it interesting or appealing at all... But I am glad you found some enjoyment out of it.

I even made an image meme on DeviantArt to prove that people should stop skipping theatrical releases of Disney and Pixar movies.

I do hope that it can be popular when it is available on streaming and home video.🙏🔥🌊

You know the movie is a financial bomb right? Pretty sure that means the internet was right. The Flash is currently beating it. It's doing worse than Lightyear.

I think people forgot how to just enjoy a fine movie. Not all movies can be 10/10 with world breaking characters, jaw dropping dialog, and visuals from the heavens. And every single movie doesn't NEED to be. People just need to appreciate art for what it originally is.

By... becoming the box office flop bigger than Lightyear for Pixar? 😂🎉😂🎉😂🎉

this movie was a massive letdown to me, I would have preferred ZooTWOpia, yes I know it's Disney and not Pixar but I'm so let down by it

I liked this movie it was a cool 7/10 had great animation although I wish we got more world building.

I liked the romance and the generational part of the movie a lot, but the racial allegory was absolutely tone def. Generally, in this kind of movie you whant to promote the idea that "we're not that different" but here the world building and the plot just enhances the idea of segregation. We see multiple times throughout the film how fire elemental can pose a real danger to all the other dwellers of the city. And in the end Ember and Waid just solve the whole thing with the power of love which "changed their chemistry". Zootopia did the same story way better. Also the whole repairing Dam story arc felt like an afterthought.

I can't see it because i have no money. I hoping to get disney+ and it gets released on there

Seeing the movie on my 21st birthday this Wednesday!

I personally enjoyed the movie, but would also say that the movie is good, not great. I agree with pretty much everything you pointed out, like how I wish the Air/Wind & Earth elements were shown more + how Fire people are in their point view. I also didn't care much about the love story, and I agree that it seemed like Wade was the one leading their relationship too much (I think they're cute, though!)

Could you please do a video about the 20th century fox-Nick movie deal that happened in 1993? That is a very interesting fact that few people know that you should speak in a future video.

Maybe I'll see it if you recommend it but honestly they've utterly failed with the marketing I have seen literally nothing that looks appealing to me whatsoever in any of the promotional material, the character design is bad, the humor seems bland or stale, the plot is somehow both fresh and generic, etc. It just seems entirely unappealing to me. But maybe that's not the movie's fault, the promotional team seems to have failed it.