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How enlisted rank works in todays Army 

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In this video I've got an in depth explanation on enlisted rank in the US Army. This is an update to an old video of mine to give more info about how long it take to get to a rank, how do you get to that enlisted rank and more.
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@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
When I was in (1982-1985), I automatically got my E-2 and E-3 just like you mentioned. My sergeant at the time told me to go and buy the rank insignia and wear it. We really didn't have promotion ceremonies/orders for those ranks back then. Also, the Army still had the rank of Specialist 5 (E-5) at that time. It was not considered an NCO and the rank was eliminated in October 1985, which at that time all Sp5's automatically became Sergeants.
@edwardnakagawa593
@edwardnakagawa593 3 года назад
** Yo ! I was in during the Same time ! Haven't seen Anybody in the Same time slot,til Now ! Right On ! Take Care !
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
@@edwardnakagawa593 Thank you for your service, fellow vet!
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor 3 года назад
back in the 60s and 70s they even had specialist all the way up to E-9. What made this rank funny was you had basically no authority past the people in your direct unit that were NOT NCOs or officers; A "two stripe" Corporal has more command authority then a "Specialist 9". Fortunately, the army realized how stupid those ranks were and got rid of the senior enlisted specialist ranks in the early 70s and got rid of all "NCO" level Spec ranks by the early 80s but it would be funny to see a young 20 year old Corporal to be bossing around a 45 year old Specialist 9.
@jrooksable
@jrooksable Год назад
At one time there were Specialist ranks all the up to E-9, and at that time ALL NCO grades outranked ALL Specialist grades, so an E-5 Sergeant outranked a specialist 9 even tho the Sp-9 had the exact same TIS TIG as a CSM, in the words of Top Lee, "that was bullshit & gunsmoke"!🤣
@georgemaxwell3467
@georgemaxwell3467 3 года назад
I made E4 in 14 months because my 1st duty station disbanded 7 months after I got there and they promoted all the E1s-E3s in the unit before we all left to our new units!! This was back in 1987...
@Roh-c8e
@Roh-c8e 2 года назад
Just wondering, were you with the Pershing unit in Germany?
@russ1376
@russ1376 3 года назад
Our First Sergeant had 9 yrs Time in Service when he took command of our company.
@MsG_executor
@MsG_executor Год назад
to get to E-5 in a year or 2 join the 18 series
@jthavorn
@jthavorn 3 года назад
27 minutes of chaos. Time to get that popcorn! 👍
@VGMRMissCoriel
@VGMRMissCoriel 3 года назад
My Platoon Sergeants loved having promotion ceremonies.. Gotta punch that rank on them lol
@markvenozzi9843
@markvenozzi9843 3 года назад
And we love you ❤️ 😂
@jjb0894
@jjb0894 3 года назад
I got punched pretty hard when I went from PFC to SPC. 😂
@aidsskrillex5355
@aidsskrillex5355 Год назад
My recruiter had me do something to automatically make E2. He was pretty cool.
@patinomaha1
@patinomaha1 3 года назад
Corporal isn't always a local or unit assignment. I was permanently promoted to CPL in Korea and it held over to my last duty station at Riley (despite me trying to dump the stripes for my last few months).
@kjorlaug1
@kjorlaug1 3 года назад
You said powerpoint and a chill went down my spine 😁
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Lol. That makes me think "powerpoint and chill" should be a thing.
@zacharyrobbins7208
@zacharyrobbins7208 3 года назад
Love your channel, watching these videos make me extremely excited to go to basic and become a soldier. (I leave June 8th for Ft Leonard wood)
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Good luck and thanks for watching!!!
@armymang6472
@armymang6472 3 года назад
Good luck. I leave for basic June 30th to Fort Jackson.
@johnslyfield5096
@johnslyfield5096 9 месяцев назад
E4 criteria has changed. Specialists are those who didn’t either go through the promotion board or didn’t go through the course. Corporals have been through both but are short promotion points or other requirements So corporal in one unit is a corporal in another now
@billbaker2725
@billbaker2725 3 года назад
My co called me into his office back in 1992 and said you got promoted to specialist....had to go buy the sham shields..when I got my e3..they just knocked on my barracks door and gave me the promotion paperwork..lol
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
LOL!
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor 3 года назад
there are ways of breaking that early promotion requirements by meeting certain requirements at boot camp and AIT. I have heard of quite a few instances where people were promoted to PFC before 6 months or even specialist after just a year in the Army. But once you get to your unit and have passed up those early promotion opportunities in early training, you are pretty much going to be bound by those early promotion requirements unless you do something extra special like win Soldier of the Quarter or a Best Warrior competition.
@asianpianoboi245
@asianpianoboi245 3 года назад
Please do the modern officer ranks for modern day next. It will be helpful.
@kennymcfadden636
@kennymcfadden636 3 года назад
Ahah! I can watch it! I’m still waiting at the airport to go to Fort Leonard Wood. Great success! Hahaha. Thanks for the videos Chris. I’m going to miss them and especially the livestreams over the next 6 months!
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
..... you're gonna hate it....
@beetogarcia9983
@beetogarcia9983 3 года назад
@@kurtrussell5228 fr Fr
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
@@beetogarcia9983 Cheeto Garcia
@beetogarcia9983
@beetogarcia9983 3 года назад
@@kurtrussell5228 ???
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
@@kurtrussell5228 Are you Snake Pliskin???
@YOUNGDOCGH
@YOUNGDOCGH 9 месяцев назад
You did better than my recruiters. I joined the army because I love the United States 🇺🇸. Either way, I wouldn't join when I found out at meps about not getting a bonus as promised, being placed at E1, etc. They weren't transparent, but I am happy to be in the army
@jayjochey1396
@jayjochey1396 3 года назад
Getting pinned corporal soon n holding it until I get a blc slot, sad day when I officially leave the E-4 mafia
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
SPCs aren't $h1T.........you'll learn that.....you're in business if you make E7
@jayjochey1396
@jayjochey1396 3 года назад
@@kurtrussell5228 I’m only 2 years and 6 months in, I’ll be the youngest NCO in my company
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
@@jayjochey1396 good luck, you're gonna need it
@lawrencetierney3697
@lawrencetierney3697 Год назад
We do thing differently in the Canadian Army/Navy/Airforce (Combined Service) First we do not have the up and out attitude, as a much smaller military consisting of 97,625 Members including the Primary Reserves, we do not have the numbers. This number includes all three services. When we enlist we first sign for a Three to Five Year Contract (Depending on your Military Occupational Component (MOC)) at the end of your first contract you may be offered either another Three to Five Year Contract or an Indeterminate Period of Service (IPS) for 25 Years. At the end of the IPS date, you may then be offered a Indeterminate Engagement (IE), which allows you to remain to Age 60. After the 25 Year mark you may retire with an unpenalized Pension, based on years served and the Best Five Years of your Salary (Usually the last five Years of your Career). If for some reason you are not offered either the IE or IPS, you are automatically released (retired) from service upon completion of your contract. As far as Promotions are concerned you have an automatic promotion from Pte to Cpl (E1 to E4) after a period of 4 Years, this promotion is also dependent upon whether you have been offered either an contract extension or an IPS. After this period your advancement in rank is solely dependent on your Performance Evaluation Report (PER) and the current Promotion Openings within your trade for that year. You must serve an Minimum of Two Years in Rank (E1 to E4) and a Minimum of Four to Five Years in Rank (E-5 to E9) before your PER goes in front of the Merit Board. It not uncommon in the Canadian Forces to see Cpls with 25 Years of service or more. Advancement in Rank is also dependent on Rank openings, for example if your Trade is small there are fewer Rank opening s as people have a tendency to stay longer, which means fewer promotions. I use an example from my former Trade at that time. I knew an individual who was promoted to the rank of Chief Warrant Officer (E-9 equivalent) that person still had 14 years left to serve on their contract which means that they locked up that rank, denying the chance for those below them to move up and since we only had two CWO's in the Trade that reduced the chances of promotion. This effect would then trickle down to the lower Ranks of Master Warrant Officer (E-8) and to a lesser extent the Warrant Officers (E-7), meaning that you literally had to wait for someone to either retire or die to open up the ranks. Again it was not uncommon to see individuals in these ranks with 25 Years or more of Service. Lawrence Tierney Warrant Officer (Ret)
@Quecuhzoo
@Quecuhzoo 3 года назад
I saw a medic in my unit go from PFC to CPL and I was a SPC promotable and we always joked about who’s the *real* higher ranking lol
@S1D3W1ND3R015
@S1D3W1ND3R015 2 года назад
Probably TIG or who has BLC done. Lol
@jrooksable
@jrooksable Год назад
Think about this! The moment orders are cut commissioning someone a 2nd Lieutenant (s)he outranks the SMA...(technically!)😉
@bakerboy8910
@bakerboy8910 Год назад
I went from E-1 to E-4 in one tour. Talk about combat promotions.
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 3 месяца назад
You probably earned it!
@seanpatmac27
@seanpatmac27 3 года назад
I think members of the Army Band get to come into the Army as an E5 I think
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
They get automatic E4 after they complete their training.
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
@@christopherchaos "Training?" You mean learning how to do a killer guitar rip?? LOL!!!!!
@ballsdeep6912
@ballsdeep6912 3 года назад
@@dougtheeliminator1077 they all go through basic training. Same goes for Marines. Only ones that don’t are Air Force iirc
@commosection
@commosection 2 года назад
I don't know if they still do this but back in the 80's my room mate became an acting SGT but in the pay grade of a sp/4 (E-4) I think he didn't have the points for E-5. Back then the only Corporals had combat mos's like Infantry or Artillery etc.
@jakeparrott9096
@jakeparrott9096 3 года назад
This was awesome thank you!
@edwardnakagawa593
@edwardnakagawa593 3 года назад
**** At 4, That's where *Everybody, Gets Stuck !
@inglesd90
@inglesd90 Год назад
What's the dynamic between very experienced NCOs and young Commissioned Officers? My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, is that a lieutenant fresh out of the academy outranks a sergeant who has twenty years of service. Does this cause issues when a twenty year sergeant and a twenty-year-old lieutenant disagree?
@theilluminati4076
@theilluminati4076 Год назад
i came in in 2022 as an E3 w/o JROTC or an associates, I got a referral and passed a ot test before leaving for BCT
@edwardnakagawa593
@edwardnakagawa593 3 года назад
*** PFC - PROUD F*CKING CIVILIAN ?
@christoskettenis880
@christoskettenis880 3 года назад
So why won't they call an E2 a PFC and an E3 a sub-corporal or lance-corporal, just to distinguish those E1s and E2s?
@GTBANNA
@GTBANNA 3 года назад
Fuzzy and mosquito wings
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
E-1, aka "Slick sleeve."
@jrooksable
@jrooksable Год назад
I got out at 5 yrs, 11 mos as an E-4 mostly because I hated not being with my kids!
@edwardnakagawa4262
@edwardnakagawa4262 3 года назад
* I Have A Problem, With Automatic Promotions,Because, The Person being promoted should be Able to Show some progress and the willingness to Try to Learn the Job they are doing and Excell in what they do ! When being Promoted, Leaders/Leadership, Should Have A discussion, If that Person Is Capable of or Should Be Able to Move to A Higher Grade, if Not, Should Not be Upgraded, because they are not Up to Standard !
@toilet_cleaner_man
@toilet_cleaner_man 2 года назад
Its irrelevant because they show a willingness to participate and work the army lifestyle by staying in the army without being discharged. Also they hold no significant responsibilities, as SPC's or PFC's must show all of what you just said to receive the rank of Corporal, the only non-NCO rank to gain leadership responsibilities.
@55ricci
@55ricci 3 года назад
Chris, love the chanel ! but I always thought the rank of corporal pay grade E 4 Is the begining of the NCO corps ?
@rarelibra
@rarelibra Год назад
it is
@Corprul
@Corprul 3 года назад
Please do this for commissioned officer ranks
@Eonizpro
@Eonizpro 3 года назад
Is 22 years old to old to join? I’m thinking about it but not sure if it’s the right move
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Not too old at all.
@bryanalvarado6640
@bryanalvarado6640 3 года назад
im going into meps today at 27, not old at all
@makemoola5145
@makemoola5145 3 года назад
im goin in at 24 never too old brother
@Sgt_Sharpshooter
@Sgt_Sharpshooter 3 года назад
Anyone here an Eagle scout who joined the army and got rank? What rank did you get?
@parkerbaker7310
@parkerbaker7310 3 года назад
I'm an Eagle Scout. Came in as E1! They goofed on my paperwork and told me it was too complicated to fix and to just roll with it
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
I got SMA
@m1a1abrams3
@m1a1abrams3 3 года назад
cant u just google that?
@kurtrussell5228
@kurtrussell5228 3 года назад
Just wear whatever rank you feel like you should be
@Sgt_Sharpshooter
@Sgt_Sharpshooter 3 года назад
@@parkerbaker7310 rip
@edwardnakagawa593
@edwardnakagawa593 3 года назад
* I Made *SGT, Within 1 Enlistment ! *True ! *BEAT ! *THAT ! * And ! Would * Never ! Re Up ! Ever !
@jbarnett4383
@jbarnett4383 3 года назад
I made SSG in 1 enlistment! I passed Jumpmaster school on first try and they threw the rank at me . I didn't even go to BNOC. They said I had to go within 2 years after I made staff sergeant. Got deployed so that didn't happen.
@kjorlaug1
@kjorlaug1 3 года назад
Can't people stay in the guard as an E4 for 20 years?
@marksmusicplace3627
@marksmusicplace3627 2 года назад
E6 to E7, E7 to E8, and E8 to E9 known as the centralized promotion board used to have their records reviewed a by a promotion board to review their records. The NCOS do not have to appear before a panel as done when a E4 goes to the E5 board and a E5 goes to the E6 board. But E7 to E9 promotion boards are given the NCOs records where NCOs were given a grade point system of 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 by each voting board member. the board would look at DA Photos, the NCOs OMPF as well as NCOERS and are reviewed by a panel of CSMs, SGMs and one officer over the voting panel. NCOs, if selected, are based on the graded points given by the voting panel. and how many slots for promotion based on that MOS. the NCO will be then awarded a sequence number which was given based on the points awarded by the board panel and the time in grade and time in service of that NCO. Now its changed to a OML point system of how many NCOs are in the MOS from most qualified to the least qualified, A NCO can check their ranking number in their AKO accounts to see where they rank. E6 to E7 promotion or OML review board happens every February of that year, E8 to E9 promotion review panel happens every June. and E7 to E8 every October. NCOs non selected for promotion are usually told by the their leadership and usually a AAR of board results and available on the HRC website and NCOs can look to see where in their careers they are progressing and where they are falling short. Leadership time may not be enough. so many variables can fall into play as to why some NCOs make E7, E8 and even E9 and as to why some NCOs never get passed E6.
@steveedington5231
@steveedington5231 4 месяца назад
Slick sleeve e-1 I saw a man retire at 20 years as an E-1
@jurban611
@jurban611 3 года назад
Notification platoon.
@scooby0819
@scooby0819 3 года назад
Hey odd question how does an army scholarship work?
@barrettboese4164
@barrettboese4164 3 года назад
For Army ROTC, you would apply for it though the Army to a school with ROTC. They have 4 year, 3 year, and 2 year awards. This means that the Army would pay for your tuition in full and give you a stipend of $420 a month, with $600 for book money. You could change out that tuition money for the Army to pay room and board. But most people choose the tuition. It’s a pretty sweet deal. If you don’t win a scholarship before you head off to the university, if you join ROTC you will have a chance to win a scholarship after your first year. That’s what happened to me. I’m currently on a 3 scholarship and I was awarded that after my freshman year. I hope this answers your question. If not let me know and I’ll try to clarify.
@scooby0819
@scooby0819 3 года назад
lol that works thx
@bertlynharper425
@bertlynharper425 Год назад
Hi you did not mention lance corporal , but I will like to know is why a specialist gets the same pay as a lance corporal.
@MCKevin289
@MCKevin289 Год назад
Pretty sure the army eliminated the rank in the 60’s. Only the marines have it I think.
@ShaneBradfordTV
@ShaneBradfordTV 6 месяцев назад
I’ve heated if you have a EMT certification you can enlist as a 68W and go straight to E4
@miastrok
@miastrok 11 месяцев назад
Does Time in Grade Transfer over from prior Service?
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 11 месяцев назад
Yes. Pretty sure it does.
@mtvxo1868
@mtvxo1868 2 года назад
just enlisted 13F option 40 I need advice and guidance I leave may 31st, what can I do to prepare
@steveedington5231
@steveedington5231 4 месяца назад
Private E-0 I heard my time in the US Army Army training
@edwardnakagawa4262
@edwardnakagawa4262 3 года назад
** Some People, Should Not be Promoted, If They Don't Deserve It ! What A Travesty ! *I Seen A Guy Fail Drug Tests, Get Promoted To SGT ! ** ABSOLUTELY TRUE !! Just Because the Leadership, Liked the guy !
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
I agree 100% with you on that issue. I never agreed with "waivers" either for TIG/TIS. Do your time and earn it!
@collateral9159
@collateral9159 3 года назад
so someone could ssgt in 5 years. thats wildddd
@matthewvasser2436
@matthewvasser2436 2 года назад
SSG in 4ish years
@sofakingj5498
@sofakingj5498 3 года назад
for E2 (for example) Where it says automatic promotion, is it automatic promotion from E1 to E2 or from E2 to E3??
@sofakingj5498
@sofakingj5498 3 года назад
oh wait, nevermind, had to rewind lol
@sofakingj5498
@sofakingj5498 3 года назад
E1 to E2 just incase anybody is confused
@peachesrambo4037
@peachesrambo4037 3 года назад
And an automatic demotion back to e1
@flexedcaesar2637
@flexedcaesar2637 3 года назад
Are there combat officers? Like officers who are in the front line leading their men like in WW1
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 3 года назад
Yes, they command platoons, batteries, companies, etc. Usually O-1 to O-4
@ParkBongSig
@ParkBongSig 3 года назад
Can you waive the time in service to get from E-4 to E-5
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
That secondary zone is the soonest that is possible. Can't get promoted faster than that.
@JTL1776
@JTL1776 4 месяца назад
Does anyone know 1SG or CSM. With only 10 years in the army.
@jovanni_orb5116
@jovanni_orb5116 4 месяца назад
How does joining the army as an e-4 or e-5 with six years of time in service affect promotions?
@Staticjumper
@Staticjumper 3 года назад
1SG = Detached battalion clerk.
@TheEmpowermentCoach
@TheEmpowermentCoach 4 месяца назад
What about prior service? Do they have to be in the “Army” for X months to go E-5 to E-6 or does their prior years count. Example if one did 8 years in the Marines and got out e-5 and they went into the Army as an e-5.
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 4 месяца назад
Yes, your time transfers over, and commonly, you can keep your rank as long as there is not a large gap between switching branches.
@JTL1776
@JTL1776 4 месяца назад
Does anyone know an E9 with only 9 or 10 years in.
@deonbenton210
@deonbenton210 3 года назад
Is it true that you need to take college classes to make it to e-5
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Not usually. In some cases when the points requirements are really high then a soldier might need to get in some college credits to be able to make points but that's not usually the case for E5.
@cupnoodles6714
@cupnoodles6714 3 года назад
There are talks about putting ranks back on the collars because females are complaining during promotions that commanders are touching their chest
@dougtheeliminator1077
@dougtheeliminator1077 3 года назад
They used to be on the collar.
@cupnoodles6714
@cupnoodles6714 3 года назад
@@dougtheeliminator1077 yeah, my bad, I meant to say that
@jamalbaguan8386
@jamalbaguan8386 6 месяцев назад
Sergeant major is special rank
@revracentertainment
@revracentertainment 11 месяцев назад
Actually most e4 marines get offered e5 when joining the army
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 11 месяцев назад
False. No one can come into the Army as an E5 unless they were an E5 in another branch. E5 requires a promotion board and NCO academy so without that, they don't qualify.
@imsohussein
@imsohussein 3 года назад
Chris do this TIS applicable to the Army reserve or NG
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Yes but sometimes they have ways around it. Promotions work a little different in the reserves and national guard.
@imsohussein
@imsohussein 3 года назад
@@christopherchaos thank you Chris
@Oxcotton09
@Oxcotton09 3 года назад
Failure to promote then GOMAR them right? So you really don't get to hit a RCP date
@dannymcglone7430
@dannymcglone7430 3 года назад
E4 mafia baby
@stt577
@stt577 3 года назад
E2 TWATS WHERE YOU AT???
@therealcosta1097
@therealcosta1097 3 года назад
@@stt577 💪🏽💪🏽
@jimmieburleigh9549
@jimmieburleigh9549 3 года назад
What about warrant officer from sgt.
@GTBANNA
@GTBANNA 3 года назад
As a contracted cadet my drill pay is the same as an E5.
@rustyh711
@rustyh711 2 года назад
Does this work the same for the Army Reserves?
@nasirmohammed2810
@nasirmohammed2810 3 года назад
4th
@brianblackwell5713
@brianblackwell5713 Год назад
When did they start the “1st Sergeant academy “?
@brianblackwell5713
@brianblackwell5713 Год назад
You left out a boatload of stuff
@malinyamato2291
@malinyamato2291 Год назад
US rank are so totally different from Swedish Army ranks...
@dannymcglone7430
@dannymcglone7430 3 года назад
Do they still do BNOC AND ANOC
@christopherchaos
@christopherchaos 3 года назад
Sort of. The name are just different.
@rarelibra
@rarelibra Год назад
there is no such thing as a First Sergeant Academy ... the Army has the US Army First Sergeants Course
@danielfatfingahs5649
@danielfatfingahs5649 3 года назад
If they don't buy slide-on rank for their cold/wet weather top, have they really been promoted?! 😆😆😆
@danielfatfingahs5649
@danielfatfingahs5649 3 года назад
5:03 - it's definitely Private Second Class
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