How EV Makers Cheated The Game... And Still Lost! 

Today I learned I'm not devious enough to be a car dealer

The direct to the customer sales will be the way forward. Buying my Tesla M3 RWD was super simple and easy, no pressure from sales people or price changes. Legacy have been using tricks for a long time and this has exposed the issue that will no doubt help to bring them down. EV’s from China should not have the crazy tariffs just to bring them up to pricing of the legacy. All this does is cause price rises for the customers.

I wonder if this is what happened with Renault Megane E-Tech? I got my car in August this year, with only 2,000 miles on, but was registered on the 30th December 2022. I can't believe a car would do only 2000 miles in 18 months and reckon it was just parked up at a dealers for quite a lot of that time. On the positive, I got the car for less than half the price of buying new, but it is like driving a new car!

Two years ago I bought a hybrid Lexus as my retirement car. Great car, can't knock it but after purchasing a used MG5 pure electric I now wish I had bought the BZ Toyota! Advice: When you test drive an EV - firstly FORGET it is an EV. Just mark its card on ride quality, quietness and road manners. They top most ICE cars. Then after you have bought the EV on that basis alone you get the icing on the cake! Very cheap running costs! It really is a no brainer. Just my view after owning the MG5. Buy a used EV and you will be laughing all the way to the bank.

All scary stuff and its been going on for years. Our local Stoneacre took a car back off us when the 2 year lease finished, months later Ford Finance threatened us for stealing the car !. Lucky for me I had a receipt for additional mileage the dealer insisted we pay for plus a photo of the car on their lot a few days later marked up for sale!. It turned out the dealer manager had sold the car but not paid over the cash to Ford Finance. I have not bought a Ford since. We bought a Tesla two years ago with the intent to keep it five to ten years, we worked out our total cost of ownership for these two scenario's and decided it was worth the cash investment. Not really interested in a 'bargain' as we know by 2028 most available vehicles will be electric only and at the right price plus (as you pointed out) the day of the dealership is rapidly coming to an end, tomorrow's drivers will buy direct as that's what they understand, click & collect, no sales waffle or shiny dealerships required. Keep up the great work Dave !

This system of preregistration of cars to push up there sales has been going on for at least the last 20 years way before Ev’s came out. Ford Ford used to get the cars and had 30 days to pay for them

Dave, there's another important point you missed in how we as customers are being scammed on EV prices. That higher than justified Manufacturer's LIST PRICE (particularly on EVs) is set high for their benefit BUT often takes a pretty ordinary EV version over £40k and therefore subject to the LUXURY CAR TAX for years to come (years 2 to 6) even if first sold to us the public at a massive discount with only delivery mileage on it! As of next April for instance will be paying £180 VED +£400 LUXURY CAR TAX on a car I bought used 18 months ago and today would be used £15-£16k on AutoTrader

Ive always said nearly new cars are the real bargains. But I would want to know the maker will still be there in 5 years. Not sure which makers will be......

Very brave of you to expose this.

Would I buy an EV that's been sat idle in a car dealership's car park for months or even years? Probably. But not if I knew how its battery has been treated. I went to test drive an MG recently and they sent me out in it with only 13 miles of range left on the battery. Not 13 percent. 13 miles. How long had it been sat at only a few percent charge? Days? Weeks? Months? What's coming do these dealerships is a big reality check. Ridiculous prices were ok when there were subsidies and when selling to first time buyers, sometimes with more cash than common sense. Now the market will be driven by what second-hand buyers are willing, and able, to pay to those who are passing their pre-owned vehicles on.

Great assessment Dave, spot on. Legacy auto are in the throes of the Blockbuster effect. Thank you for posting

Thanks for the insight to the murky world of car sales, you are now a hate figure in the dealerships. Watch out for a rush of pre reg EVs early next year to avoid the premium excise duty, and we can probably rely on the government to lob in an hand grenade in the budget.

I ordered my Honda EV at a dealership. But I had an account opened up with Honda through the dealership. They then updated the build info and delivery info to my account. They even registered the car with the DVLA.

I’m sure it’s going on but I have to say in the last 3 months both myself and my wife have replaced our ICE cars with EVs… Volvo and Volkswagen being the EV manufacturers On both occasions we’ve had to wait for them to be built and were kept up to date with the build progress via Online portals. Neither car had any extras so pretty standard. If they were pre registered or stockpiled they’re going to some lengths to fool the consumer.

Love the summer/Hawaii shirts Dave. Maybe a good time to switch to more autumnal colours though?

Luckily all the 7000 vehicles( cars and vans of all fuels) at our depot are pretty much sold units. .

very interesting, just came accross your channel and looking at buying my first EV, looking at the MG4, love your vids Dave

I wonder if the UK will follow the EU in imposing extra tariffs on Chinese cars? If they don't , all cars sold in the UK will be Chinese made because they are better and much cheaper. Or will they do what Canada did, and impose the same tariff as their neighbours?

I’ve worked in the UK automotive product development industry for over 3 decades. I really don’t want to buy a Chinese EV. I would consider buying a new ‘22 model over a new ‘24 model, IF the discount on the ‘22 model was sufficiently large enough, but if it was only a few percent difference, I’d want to get the ‘24 model for sure….the ‘22 model would be worth less if you had to sell shortly after you purchased it.

Interesting video, there’s really fascinating stuff going on. We’ve got a close EV equivalent of the 2008 Financial Crash happening right now. Back then it became apparent that the Collateralised Debt Obligations (clever financial engineering products created by banks & full of home loans) were worthless. Like now, everyone tried to hide it at first & then rushed to dump them as fast as possible. It’s the same phenomenon again, but with EVs instead of CDOs. See ‘The Big Short’ & ‘Margin Call’.

I'm scratching my head over the idea that the number plate is so meaningful. The car has a VIN plate and a title and registration.

Dave you might want to take a look at prices in China, and I don't mean the Chinese manufacturers. The ones I know are VW ID3 £12,000 and VW Passat £20,000, and these are not some striped down basic models they normally have much better specs and equipment than anything we get here. Also Tesla was selling the Model 3 for £25,000.

I think the idea that the Chinese makers are not playing this game of pre registering cars is probably wrong. My take is that ALL new car list prices are overblown. Post pandemic from mid 2021 there was a shortage of new cars. (There was a glut in 2020, makers cut back & found it harder than expected to ramp up). Makers pushed prices us and have tried to keep list prices up there. A base Corsa in 2019 was £13,500, inflation adjusted that equates to £16,800 today (I used the Bank of England inflation calculator to work it out). Vauxhall and many other list prices are (and have been for a long time) absurd. A correction is coming - we will see new base model and trim names with lower price tags to obsure the price cuts. Getting rid of the stock backlog is going to be difficult for the car makers, this will impact everyone. You could say that Tesla have been more transparrent with their pricing, cutting prices and investment for some time now. But they will be impacted just like everyone else. There is more supply than there is demand at current prices.

Simple reason is an increasingly small number of people are rich enough to buy new cars. The only ones that can afford to are disabled or company which in effect ammounts to tax being spent on cars or tax being avoided on cars. The issue is price firstly but also I feel the understanding of buyers who aren't in these 2 groups that they are getting shafted to buy new hence why the average age of cars is rapidly ageing. I have spotted another fishy thing near me. My next door nehbour over is a car salesman and ive noticed he now has 2 nearly new evs. This is no coincidence in my mind.

Why is this a scandal? its adding evs to the market at a lower cost. If they were being sent back to the manufacturer as 'parts' and getting resold, that would be a scandal, if a company wants to pre register 1000s of vehicles and then sell them cheaper, that seems like a win.

This is really really interesting Dave, thank you So is the core problem that the car industry as a whole (ICE, EV, everything in between) is simply manufacturing significantly more of everything than there is demand for at the moment?

Trouble with this is it puts me off buying any new car because they’re going to be cheaper soon

Car sales ? I’m baffled now.. I thought you’d been a Navy helicopter pilot ? Am I wrong ? best wishes Dave

We must be very sensible in New Zealand! You can't tell how old a car is from the license plate! You will have to walk over to the car and look at the very small registration document in the window to see when it was registered. No one cares here and there isn't that number plate snobbery that you get in the UK (I'm an exPat of the UK).

Thanks, yes you are brave 🙂

Great work Dave.

Dave you ,please, need to talk to your local MP on this to get to talk on a select committee in the house of commons. Well done for putting you neck on the block and calling out the auto industry as we can see by walking around the block where you or I may live there is not many new cars out there.

Buy TSLA shares !

I don't get it, how can there be double sales figures on a car? Once it is produced or imported it needs a license plate to be able to drive on the road. You only get a license plate when you register it with the government (that's when you start paying taxes on that car). The government stores all the details of that car in its database. Once the car is scrapped or exported the license plate is revoked, and the car is no longer taxed. With a single click, the government has an overview of all cars on the road (Weight size, brand, motor type, every nitty gritty detail). The new additions in the database show how many new cars a certain brand has sold (added to the car fleet in the country). In the database, you obviously also keep track if the car for which the new license plate is issued is a brand new car or an imported used car. There is no way you can double numbers

ive been looking to buy a corsa e for a while. two occasions now. ive been into the dealer. over 1 year. on both occasions. it was cheaper to buy a new ev over a second hand one 2 years old. on pcp. but cheaper still to buy an ICE new. with the new ev at 38k. 2nd hand at 13k. and ice at 18k.

Hi Dave, Great video and analysis. I'm assuming this is a UK-only story or are other European governments also penalizing car manufacturers with fines when they haven't sold enough EVs at the end of the year?

China, the largest single car market now has over 50% car sales as EV’s. China also generate more than 50% of its electricity from coal fired power stations - one of the most polluting ways to generate electricity.

You are entirely correct but the blame needs to be firmly placed at the feet of the government. Instead of trying to force the issue with a stick approach would it not have been better to say add a £10,000 sales tax onto every new ICE vehicle and then use that as a subsidy to people buying a new EV? The treasury could even split it so that they kept say £3000 to offset the loss in fuel duty with the remaining £7000 coming off the price of the new EV. In this way market forces would dictate when EV's eventually replaced ICE vehicles and not the government. A more carrot approach. You are allowed to buy ICE cars in China if you wish but registering them costs a small fortune compared to an EV, and that appears to be working for them. It's the same in all things. As soon as the government brings out the big stick everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

Good one Dave!

Hi Dave legacy auto do you include Hyundai/Kia as well as Western and Japanese manufacturers? I am looking to changing my car in about 12 months time it will be interesting to see what the market is then. Cheers

Glad dodgy dealings are being exposed. It's overdue! Much like quantitative easing. It never actually solves an issue. If all legacy dealers cut out dealerships tomorrow and dealt directly with the customer then I think that would be far better (I think). BUT the ability to see with ones own eyes and test drive a model must still remain. People like to see what they get when spending thousands on a product. I certainly do anyhow.

Is the 22% min EV sales only for UK? Can’t remember seeing similar in Europe or US? Can’t see how pre-registered cars is such a big scandal for customers? Pre registered cars will lose value if they sit on the lo for too long, so most likely dealers or manufacturers will get screwed but not the customers…for me the biggest scandal in the uk is the cost of charging an EV…at home it can be as low as 7p per kWh but at public chargers can be up to 85p per kWh for the same …why the consumer should should pay 11/12 times for electricity because he does not have the option to charge at home..? This is what the government wants to promote? Once my current deal expires I am back to an ICE..this EV market is totally manipulated to screw the consumers..

It's Dave from Dave Rants On 😂

This is nothing new. Car sales new and second hand have always been open to charge as much as you can. Most dealerships are franchise. The manufacturer is not part of the dealer negotiating or variation in the amount squeezed from the customer. Most pressure comes from the finance companies. Many dealers have gone and continue to decline. As long as warranty and service work is required then dealerships will be there. Having a showroom attached is still viable. Many manufacturers no longer sell at site but via website. Most vehicles are made to order, the days of having loads of new vehicles in stock have gone. Yes, some dealer stock is required. There is a lot of transition going on and it is difficult to predict the outcome. All manufacturers are at risk including non legacy. Manufacturers are there to make a profit, as is everyone one else in the chain. Even Dave.

ZEV mandate has driven this scam only in the UK..?

Jeez what an absolute mess

Legacy auto sold same car with a different batch with a different price tag. People don’t buy it anymore.

The problem its not a few cars being pre registered its thousands and very likely to get worse as the mandates get neara. You can see the tip of the issue on auto trader. Big problem this will torpedo the entire car market new and secondhand ice or ev. Who in the right mind will buy a new ev its a massive depreciation more than an ice. But the reason is it going to get wore is a pre registered car classes as sold, so the wont get there fines from the imposed % of sales of ev’s. Cold hard fact ev’s in the real world aren’t selling especially compared to ice. This is bad the legislation is going to be the end of the car market as we know it. Also dosent make it right ever way. Fact is a lot people carnt charge at home like myself, witch makes a ev expensive and impractical and would mean i would be forced to waist a far bit of time public charging, also i have my van to also worry about. or a ev wont work well for everyones needs or requirements. 🎉Let alone i may be forced to close my business or massively up the prices. Its not just cars/vans any effect will effect trades people, and many independent businesses and people who rely on cars/vans. I live in a remote area a ev van would restrict my capability and the realistic number of customers i can service a day witch massively effects my profit margin or if i can pay myself. I know this my friend triald a ev van for two weeks, he handed it back after week one, in short it was a disaster and it was meant to be a busy week, he managed to see und half the customers he would of been able to serve. And had no capacity for emergency call outs he is a plumber. So we both sat down to look at what we would be forced into without costing the price of the van in, we would be forced into without to up are rates by apx 100%+ which is crazy most my customers are struggling already an d will not be able to realistically afford are services. So logically we are going to hold onto are ice car/vans as long as we can then reassess and probably wind down. Which is only going to make shortages of trades people more worse.. but if you don’t want to head are warning just stick you head into the sand, but don’t come and mone at us!!!. Don’t get me Wong if you want a ev / ice / hybrid / other Enjoy. But allow the free market to decide, mandating it will only end badly foe all… I don’t dislike ev’s or people who own or want one i dislike being forced down a singlare salute by government that will effect my livelihood….

So, your thumbnail features a VW. I am sure you know better than me, but this year I have been in the market for a VAG car, a Skoda Enyaq, and before that looked (not that seriously) at a VW ID Buzz. In both cases we were told we were not dealing with the dealers any more, but directly with VW. The dealers were mean agents, handling the paperwork of a sale directly with VW (or VW finance). So I am not convinced this sell the to sit of dealer’s lots scam is currently being practiced by VW. Indeed, this started in early spring, when my company was being a bot to successful and I wanted to buy a car before the company year end. But there were no pre-registration stock, or indeed ANY stock available. An Enyaq similar to the one I wanted was said to be in Germany, and was expected to arrive in the UK before my year end so I ordered that one, but it didn't arrive in time and so I cancelled the order, took the hit on tax corporation tax and ordered exactly what I wanted. Actually the delivery date on that kept getting pushed back, so when I saw a coming stock car that was everything I wanted but a different colour. I asked the dealership to change my order to that one, which I am now happily driving. (Oh and it arrived in the last week of August. The dealer assumed I would want it in September, but I sad I wanted to register it in August so I could drive it on my holiday to Cornwall, starting on the 30th) The only preregistration ones I was at all interested that were available were MGs. But aren’t the Chinese? I thought the Chinese manufacturers didn't do pre-reg?

Stellantis loosing 45% of their profits, give a strong nod to this type of corruption.

Imagine how many ICE cars and EVs will be pre-regged next March to avoid the five years of "Luxury car" road tax? More bargains!

At this rate to dispose of the cars they will be giving them away.

Playing devils advocate, is this actually a 'scandal' in the legal sense? If as you say the ZEVM requirements are based on registrations and not sales, are they not just exploiting a grey area?

Am looking at buying an 8 month old ex demo BMW iX1 and have been offered a fantastic deal. This would be my first EV and I’ve got to admit I’m having second thoughts after all the negativity regarding EV’s on YT and generally on the Internet. Am a big car fan, have had Porsche, TVR and other performance cars, currently own a Westfield for summer fun. Personal situation is I’m retired so not doing huge mileage anymore, around 6-8000 miles a year and mostly local. Have a drive so can install a home charger and take advantage of a cheap overnight tariff. My main concern is the occasional long trip and public charging which still seems to be a major faff. Is it really as bad as the anti EV people make out or not that big a deal ? The car in question was the twin motor version with 313 bhp and was amazing to drive. Any advice from experienced EV owners would be much appreciated!

Dave, go talk to the press.... they would love to hear from you

We really do need to support legacy or it will be ruled by the chinese like everything else I did laugh when someone said byd stands for burn your drive 😂

Import tariffs of 50% will delay the demise of the traditional car industry.

There is only 1 EV manufacturer, it’s called Tesla and it’s the biggest car company on earth. Everybody else, was something else previous to Tesla, and are now trying to catch up. Tesla makes a profit on every car sole, every other EV is sold at a loss of up to 250,000 😂

Tesla are laughing all the way to bank. Profits on new car sales and now Legacy auto are now giving Tesla money for carbon credits. All of the Legacy auto could have done same as Tesla if they had invested in right tech. Just wait till model 2 comes out. Fords RIP.

They’ll just copy the Tesla ‘pay before you receive’ model and will probably deliver to your door so as to negate salesmen,showrooms and bargaining.

They have been doing this for years. But now pre reg to avoid the fines, is going to get harder & harder, as they need to do this for more cars each year. This is a Ponzi effect. At some point, no new cash is forth coming & the whole Ponzi fails. If people thought the banking crash was bad. If this does happen. It is going to lead to stock market melt down, bankrupt (not that they are not anyway) governments around the world. The 30's depression will be like a summer festival compared to what can happen.

I typically buy cars with 75%-90% discount. There is no trick behind. They are called "used" cars. Benefit is, that when you buy them, the problems of these cars are already known, so you can avoid the ones, which matter to you. I sell them preferrably, after the price has raised, which is very common from 25-30 years of age. Rises of price about 200% is not uncommon.

Excellent vid Dave, well done 👍

Manipulating sales via pre-reg is not new, Petrol cars faced similar with the diesel bubble, before and directly leading to dieselgate, a number of years back as their sales tanked as incentives favoured the sales of diesels. Manufacturers were caught on the hoof over producing petrol cars as they had been preferred prior to the incentives kicking in, so sought to bouy up their sales figures via pre-reging the glut of petrol cars on the market.

Not much has changed, mainly just the motivation for month end registrations. It used to be to meet the manufacturer's sales targets and it still is, but rather than just sales volumes it's now more to meet the targets for sales of zero emissions vehicles. As I think you suggested, Dave, the problem will be when the dealers no longer have room or money to keep taking new cars from the manufacturers.

i’m sure Tesla hits the target of 22% must be electric car

Is this not a copy of Barrie video ?????

I am not sure the pricing of cars is a scandal. Price is set by supply and demand. I guess the issue is manufacturers are trying to pretend their prices are realistic when in reality some owners have not been impressed by their purchases which they have then shared and that has polluted the market especially for certain brands of EVs. For me the takeaway from this is if you want an EV then shop around and offer a very low price as not many brands are selling their cars at list price. As mentioned this has been going on almost since car manufacturing began. In summary not all brands are equal - my guess is a Tesla either new or second hand is going to be your best bet. If you do not like its CEO hold your nose, while you make the purchase.

🤔 isn't pre-registering EV's to avoid financial penalties and then selling them at a discount rather a good benefit for the private buyer?

In my country the stock of unsold vehicles on the dealer's floor is called the floor plan. In legacy times the chances of closing the sale dropped to almost zero if the dealer didn't have that model and colour on the showroom floor. I'm out of touch now and don't know how much the ability to spec your car on the web has changed that. Cars are usually sold at cost or below as the dealers make their profit from the full maintenance plan - replacement parts normally being marked up at least 150 per cent. I imagine that pirate spare parts are unknown in the EV business and everything is OEM?

Very interesting Dave , a couple of months ago Nissan were selling on Autotrader leafs for £13k . They all had around 15 miles on their clocks and were pre registered a couple of years ago . I guess they pre registered to avoid the hefty fines for not selling enough EVs so either way they are win win if it sells for list price or if they save 15k for basically selling it to themselves .

The ICE design is badly flawed and it cannot be rengineered The only thing that can be done is to continue to throw a bunch of systems and components to overcome the inherent deficiencies of the ICE design Under the hood of an ICE vehicles is dozens of systems of systems, so much that the actual engine cannot be seen because it is buried deep in over complex bunch of fixes The electric motor doesn't need any fixes, it only needs a handful of supporting components and it's more dependable, efficient, has more performance, need no maintenance, smaller, lighter, environmentally friendly and more The charging infrastructure and battery is the weak point of EVs, However, the infrastructure is growing fast and the battery is good enough for the average drivers and especially home owners

Why do you think my local Nissan dealer has sent me 4 emails and 2 texts asking to buy my 4 year old Leaf? It doesn’t quite make sense to me.

Always knew car sales was subject to fraudulent practices. I’m surprised at the size and scale of fraud. Then again, I shouldn’t be. Smart consumers can score excellent deals if they play the game right.

Buying an EV has saved me $2,000 per year on gas alone. Not to mention oil changes, brakes, spark plugs, etc. etc.

This is why no one ever bought a computer. There was always a better one coming. One famous example was closed as it's promised upgraded model was held up.

We on motability scheme and i wanted to know who thinks of the advinced payment as most people on the scheme or on benefits so how can they say they helpping us when the advince payments r £1200 or more please can u help as we r thinking of getting the ioniq 5 2025 model

The insights from this video alone justifies subscribing and a binge watch of previous videos. Well done Sir.

We bought a MachE in March, a much better deal then a direct replacement for our Kuga PHEV. A 48mnth PCP protects against a massive PX slump, plus we hit the PCP contract hand back clause at 40mths. Then add that it's an awesome car.

So what's the advice for someone in the market for an EV? Wait or look for one of these bargins?

Car dealers are not high in the ranks of people to trust Dave, they are below politicians .....

I had to pause the video while I went to go and get my sunglasses.

There definitely bargains if you don’t mind pre registered .

Evs didnt even start yet this doodoo says is the end 😂

If a car has been pre registered when does the manufacturer warranty run out?

Are you sitting in an empty swimming pool Dave?

Eye opening. Well done.

It’s a wonder the retailers have not been done for this underhanded business. Let’s see the switch to the Tesla mode take off and get these people out.

Drop the Mic!

Loved this video,better than a netflix addiction!

Interesting. I didn't know any of this

I'll have a "P" please Dave. 🧑‍💻

Good video, full of info. I have no idea if the UK Gov set the guideline for cars makers to sell 22% as EV's, if both parties came to that number under Gov duress, or another way? It does seem fairly obvious to me, with car makers needing to gear up to make EV's to fall inline, around a period of sales starting to faulter, they had a stretched budget, which may well explain the not so good Euro EV's and the growing unreliability of Petrol/Diesel cars. If the Euro Gov's hadn't pushed this on them, we may have seen Euro EV's still coming out (maybe a few years later), but maybe in better shape? Also, the Petrol/Diesels may have been more reliable albeit the wet sump belt craziness that some makers fell for! I might talking a bit out of my rear here, but that's what it seems like.

Thanks Dave, Our new Dutch government is totally anti electricity, windmills, solarpanels, heatpumps and EV's. The EV buyers get no subsidies anymore, and even get a very expansive "fine" in weight tax, making the EV even more dearer. Now, a petrol car is mutch cheaper in road tax than a EV. The Citroën C3 1.2 Petrol is €556 road tax per year and the ë-C3 EV version is €864 road tax per year. For comparison to the prices in the UK, a 5 year lease at 15.000 km per year, the Citroën ë-C3 Max will cost you €450 per month . . .

Très intéressant….

Unfortunately you lost all credibility when you stated these two nonsense: “nobody in china is buying Ice vehicles, it’s all EVs” No it’s not. In July 2024, 51% of vehicles sold in China were battery electric or plug-in hybrids. The rest was still ICE. “Particularly not buying European or American ones” Erm.. hello, ever heard of the Model Y? Yeah you know, that American car that’s always on 1st or 2nd place on the sales leaderboards in China. Check your facts sir.

What should I buy Dave? What should I do with my 2022 MG4?

So much disconnected waffle

Talking about different industries….there is something ‘odd’ that I’ve recently noticed in the photographic camera world - the ‘grey import’. Grey imports are products not originally intended for the UK being offered for sale in the UK. The downside is that the manufacturer may not honour the warranty of a non Uk model in the UK, and may even refuse to repair it at a cost. The upside is that they are cheaper. They have existed for years, and in the past you could save a few hundred pounds. The ‘odd’ thing I’ve recently noticed is the size of the discount. For example, a UK Sony A9iii model is around £6000, but grey imports of exactly the same model can be had for under £4000. I’ve never before seen such a huge percentage discount on grey imports, which makes me wonder ‘what’s going on’.

I prefer ice vehicles. Those battery operated cars are dangerous gimmicks My favourite EV YT channel is Mguy Australia.