How Exotic Class Items will work in Final Shape (& some new gameplay) 

Not being able to do the Liars Handshake and Synthoceps combo has me in shambles

Bungie not dropping the exotic class items before the raid race is probably better than just disabling them game-wide

Re-cluttering the buff list because some players might not recognize text on the other side of their screen is such a Bungie decision.

I was so worried that I wouldn’t be able to have an opinion on this. Thanks Datto!

An osmio/Verity's roll will go hard on a feed the void build.

Renewals + facade for woven mail + frost armour on orb pick up + buried bloodline for devour + invis from stylish executioner + overshield from repulser brace heavy weapon. Idk how you’d ever die

Stareater for all 6 raid team members…beautiful.

that offspring joke was top tier. i see you datto

I'm pretty glad exotic class items are after the Day 1, that way I don't have to headache about grinding rolls in those days.

Spirit of renewal and spirit of cyrtarachine are gonna be an interesting combo for hunters, doubling up on survivability.

I like how Ursa's (or an as of yet unrevealed bear themes exotic that works around getting your super when blocking) is going to work with the new Titan Aspect. I'm definitely going to make a build to prepare for that because it sounds super fun.

Yeeaaah... that change to putting debuffs on the right side of the screen might not have been a bad idea. I don't think it was worth the complaints. Sure it would take some time to get used to but keeping it all in one stack is annoying even if its rotating. The left side just looks so congested.

Spirit of Calibans and spirit of synthoceps is gonna go hard

Spirit of osmiomancy + Verity’s is going to be insane. Probably my go to HOWEVER: Stag rift damage reduction + Starfire could be absolutely insane with feed the void as well. Kinda bummed warlocks didn’t get a super self regen based perk but the ones we did get make up for it 100%.

they should at least include the option to separate debuffs to the right side in the settings tab

cant wait to get my hands on a spirit of severence/synthos roll for my titan melee builds

I'm pretty excited for the Warlock one. The Spirit of Osmiomancy is exactly what I wanted and was hoping for.

I really do wish that let u choose between the buff debuff hud in this video the one with the buffs on the left and debuffs on the right. Having the choice between the two would be great for those who want the extra space

Facet of Command is a combination of Domineering and Hedrons (activates when a titan uses tractor cannon in ViDoc and when something gets frozen)

This gives me heavy artifact from d1 vibes

I think for general use I’m going to inmost light/star eater on warlock

Looks like ursa furiosa is getting some kind of rework. The new Titan void aspect is going to synergize with it by giving super energy when you block. Could be pretty interesting

Love your vids datto! Keep up the good work. I hope we can put debuffs on the right of the screen.

If combination blow works with grapple, assassins cowl+syntho prismatic hunters might be just as good if not better than banner of war titans for melee builds

Frost armour looks like its gonna be a"modular" damage resist. My guess is lower stacks are easier to achieve but are decently weaker than woven mail, but high stacks will be stronger than woven mail but harder to reach.

My basic theory crafted Warlock set up with Prismatic and exotic class armour for general game play: Weapons: Tusk of the boar, Unforgiven/Recluse (demo + adrenaline junkie and Repulsor Brace + desperate measures, both rolls I currently have), heavy will depend on activity Prismatic - Aspects: feed the void and bleak watcher Grenade: vortex Melee: arcane needle Jump: I don’t think I need to say anything Super: song of flame or Needlestorm Fragments: I can’t put a definitive choice on this, but one will definitely be the fragment that gives volatile rounds on void nade kills and unraveling rounds on strand melee kills. Additionally if there are any aspects that allow you to get Woven mail and/or void over shield. Ones I do know of include facet of hope for increased class ability regen when having an elemental buff, facet of dawn for radiant when getting powered melee kills and facet of balance to get melee energy back from light damage and grenade energy from dark damage. Exotic class armour- Spirit of assassin and spirit of synthos/claw Spirit of inmost light and spirit of verity/synthos/vesper/Starfire Spirit of stag and spirit of vesper/Starfire Spirit of filaments and spirit of Starfire (for when you don’t want to rock feed the void) Spirit of necrotic and spirit of synthos/claw Spirit of osmiomancy and spirit of verity/Starfire (not sure how osmiomancy recharge will interact with things like vortex grenades) Spirit of Apotheosis and spirit of star eaters/harmony The goal is to use as many abilities as possible and achieve Ascendance as quickly as possible.

Verity x Foetracer, star eaters x galanor and Gyrfalcon x assasin are the combos I'll be looking out for.

the one thing i cannot wait to try is knockout + consecration with frenzied blade for the 3 melee charges, alongside the spirit of severance and spirit of contact. knockout makes your unpowered melee hits to powered arc melee, which make it so everytime you hit with your melee, lightning strikes the enemies and they get jolted , plus when they die they get exploded. then consecration for even more explosions whenever you have your melee charges! the one melee build to rule them all

I’m excited to see what fun things I can pair with necrotics

Can you use the new exotic items on other subclasees like void/strand or does it need to be transcendent

Arc hunter assassins cowl and syntho and combination blow sounds pretty sick in many scenarios.

Hard disagree with the people complaining about debuffs being on the right side of the screen. It's really not a huge deal to have to glance your eyes to the other side of the screen if that means we can have a more clear view of what buffs and debuffs are currently active. It feels like a very silly reason to roll back that change.

I’d love to be able to decide which buffs and debuffs I’d like to see. Some of them have super obvious environmental ques and some I just don’t really care about.

Inmost light on warlocks with devour could be very interesting...

I think a good middle ground on the armor chase would be if you could focus an exotic effect in one column (so every item will drop with Verity's in the right column or whatever) but the other side you have to grind for.

So will we be able to combine anything from the left column to anything on the right column with in there respective class? Is that correct? Or will it be just as the spreadsheet sits? For instance, you will only ever be able to roll spirit of necrotic with spirit of starfire etc?

So are we going to be able to equip an actual exotic armor AND the class item at the same time, or are we going to be limited to one or other?

Now that we have a better understanding of what we’ll be getting in final shape, do you think it’d be worth pre-ordering it for that fusion rifle, or whatever it was that can do all elements?

Maybe i ve missed it, but will we be able to use the first column perk without equipping prismatic?

Facet of protection is basically “DR while surrounded”, that was described in the whole dev blog on available abilities and some fragments for prismatic. Facet of dominance is unknown tho, we’ll see what that one does

It's all gonna be fire! I can't wait you all!!

What button do you activate it with?

Oh boi, theorycrafting and buildcrafting are my favourite things to do, so here we go, I've been cooking that one since it's been announced...this is a long one, hopefully you see what I'm trying to get at :D I've seen it mentioned a bunch, and I'll likely also go for the Osmiomancy + Verity, BUT: Begs the question, what does the Transcendence nade count as? Because Warlock's nade is now going to be stasis/void, so...can Verity work for that? Because if not, I'd rather go with Osmiomancy + Harmony, which also leaves me open with another question: Does the Transcendence nade override the Song of Flame nade, and if it does, does it do more damage than the Song of Flame nade? My "dream" build would be: Song of Flame, Feed the Void and either Bleak Watcher or Hellion (in the Prismatic Deep Dive post, they showed the first combination, and it had a total of 5 Fragment slots, I suspect that Feed the Void is the one with 2, if Hellion "only" has 2, I might stick to Bleak Watcher, since having turrets is also funny) As for the Melee, not sure yet, probably Strand melee just because 3 charges, not sure on that Nade is very likely going to be either Storm or Threadling, also not sure on that one. Fragments: TBD, but for now, mainly looking at Facet of Dominance and Purpose Gameplay loop (in my head at least, this also assumes that Transcendence overrides Song of Flame's nade): 1. Storm grenade (specifcally more for boss dps, Jolt from Facet of Dominance) > 2. Pop super, pop Transcendence > 3. grenade, melee, weapons > 4. repeat 3 until both run out > weapon (or likely DPS phase over) loop would be identical in addclear settings Basically, the dream here are multiple things, but are likely to be shattered, because I'm like 70% sure that SoF will override Transcendence... 1. SoF + Transcendence + Osmiomancy - Absolute menace of a grenade recharge (if SoF counts for "grenade" in general, if it's only for solar...well rip) 2. In theory, very easy gameplay loop thanks to both Osmiomancy and Feed the Void, Facet of Purpose adding both Devour and Restoration (because of SoF) means, you're basically unkillable, if you weren't already with just Devour lol 3. Possible "pre-nerf" Starfire Protocol gameplay loop for DPS phases and for addclear, however, you're mobile because you're not stuck to a well or a rift. Downsides (as of now): 1. obviously unknown damage 2. SoF ability recharge may not work for Transcendence 3. Transcendence MAY not override the SoF grenade, which would make the gameplay loop not synergize very well, because you are then forced to NEVER use your super during transcendence and vice versa If the 3 downsides come into play, I'm very unlikely gonna play SoF tbh, the whole idea was to have (basically) sunbracers like grenade recharge rate but with the Freezing Singularity and with good damage for both addclear and bosses. I don't know, I'm not really a good player in Destiny 2, like mechanics wise, I understand most things, I'm just bad at executing them...i'm praying I can make this work, because this would be so much fun to just yeet black holes at enemies

What hoodie is Datto wearing ? I’ve seen it so much but don’t know where it’s from.

A little sad that the necrotic grip perk isn't available for other classes, but overall very excited for what's to come.

they should just make the buffs stay upside (the move diwn if you have less than 4)

Do we know if they are limiting it so you cant run the class item with a regular exotic?

Yo Datto been watching forever and I know you've been branching out more in terms of content, there are some avenues that I think you could explore and excel at from other game communities that could be cool for destiny 2 like : 1. D2 fashion show - have a private match with X amount of people. Give themes of what you want them to convey with their outfit, slowly kill off the weak options until you get a D2 fashion champion. 2. D2 Randomizer challenge - something like "beating X dungeon but your loadout changes every 10 seconds" or after every encounter something like that, randomized through DIM? Could also be a cool grind to try and solo flawless a dungeon with a changing loadout 3. D2 Bingo - race against Danielle and Jez or whoever on a D2 bingo with different challenges from crucible to nightfall etc 4. two player one controller with Danielle trying to solo a dungeon 5. "Chat chooses my build" type challenge video 6. "Show me your best/worst D2 clips" I know it's not typically what you do and you may not care about any of this but it could be cool content ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Interesting to see the "spirit of the bear" perk description, looks like Ursa Furiosa gauntlets are getting a much needed rework/buff.

I really hope there’s ornaments for them or if you can apply them just like regular class items

omg the offspring reference, chefs kiss.

That Offspring reference 🔥

I did comment on your first video today (im not a big commenter at all) but just in case I want you to know from me that you mean a lot to all of us and make our days better. I work 3 jobs and i look very much forward to your videos. Ive been here since the beginning and mt fav video is the OG thorn bounty video. Much love and thank you for making my life better

apotheosis + verity is going to be THE warlock solo dps meta.

I was hoping Scars and Lupi would have been in a different column for a decent support build.

I think it would be cool if we got another set of Exotic Class items in the future that can only roll with one exotic perk. But that perk can be from any class's armor, and the class item would allow the usage of another piece of Exotic armor like they did in Destiny 1.

A few things worth noting: 1) the possible combinations of Prismatic they talked about in the reveal vidoc was talking about the subclass, not the exotics. Once we got more info and saw that Prismatic only took parts of each subclass, people should have then expected the Exotic Class Items would be similar. 2) would love the debuff and ui be more customizable. The "feedback" as deciding on doing on the left side ui was from internal playtests. It was too jarring to rewrite muscle memory for both a new UI system AND also looking for info on the right (which previously was only for loot or quests, not moment-to-moment gameplay). They also just can't shove more on the left-side above the current "4-buff cluster" because that's where current objective info goes. 3) Based on the last twid, we should be getting new "traditional" exotics as well via Rahools Tier 3 focusing, unlockable Day 1. So while no funkiness with class items during the raid race, the new stuff could still be buggy xD

I like the he said about how there might be different class items that will have different list. I think the class item might be attached to the season like the artifact????

Offspring reference was crazy

Can you have a regular exotic and the class item on at the same time ?

contact and severence, the room deletion potential oh my lord.

Dragon and wormhusk is the definite combo I'm going for on my hunter

So were able to use class item + normal exotic armor right?

So just to clarify, exotic class items are your piece of exotic armour? You can’t equip them alongside another exotic?

can we use a regular exotic along side it?

I can't find the info anywhere, but I'm assuming we CAN'T use the Exotic Class Items WITH normal Exotic armor?

I’m hyped. I have a lot of builds that don’t use exotics purely because the stats suck.

I can't stop thinking about 3x consecration with a class exotic severance + contact combo

This will definitely be a incrediblely fun final expansion. Hopefully the narrative will be s tier as it understandablely should be too

Three Consecration charges (Frenzied Blade) with Syncotheps and Point-Contact Cannon Brace sounds like the most fun thing in the world.

wait so does that mean in my armor slots they will all be legendary instead? (outside class item)

Really interested in seeing a star eater nova bomb

Datto: "How could you not watch that video the thumb is a banger" Me, who watches every Datto video regardless of the topic: "Holy shit bc of the thumb I didn't realize it was a Datto vid" *opens in tab*

Kinda expected to see some of the exotic perks being able to be used on other classes and some probably staying with the own classes but overall it’s still gonna be fun to get rolls of these things

How did the warlock make a stasis shard? The stasis aspect is going to be bleak watcher which doesnt make shards on its own

I’d be so excited if Dawn chorus and felwinters helm could get mixed together or verity’s brow and felwinters holy shit

Necro + anything is probably better than necro by itself for the Thorn/Striga build, assuming the poison still spreads and the damage isnt nuked and would be neat cuz I really like those weapons and that build but something about using necro grips still feels underwhelming rn so getting a bit of extra on top is nice! The one thing about them being class items though is me being stingy with masterworking exotics due to the cost, and thus far you have just been able to just masterwork one class item and use that forever for the free +12 since stat rolls dont matter, but now if using these you will actually have to either masterwork them or give up the +12 stats >:(

I hope we get some type of ornament just to make the exotic class items fit more with different kinds of outfits

this exotic, is it for prismatic class only?

Gotta love an Offspring reference

Gyrfalcon's hunter 2.0, the dlc

The only explanation i would think is reasonable for making Shadowkeep and Beyond Light "Packs", is because they do pump resources into updating old content. GoS, PoH, Moon and Europa world weapons, are all due for an update. I know it sucks and it would be easier if the whole thing was free, but if we can have reasonable expectations that these areas and weapons continue to see updates (which cost money to do) than i at least understand it.

Bar and charge buffs needs to be in the center below the XP bar. This includes Armor charges and exotic perks like Wormgod’s Caress. Debuffs need to go back to the right.

Spirit of hoil and spirit of synthoceps with combination blow, teather (maybe S&S depending on what frost armor does), threaded Spector and winters shroud is gunna make me act up

I think the list will be added on as the expansion continues, like how we got a new aspect for stasis and strand in later seasons. At least, that's what I would do. This is such a letdown as it is now.

These class items are going to overrun my vault

Tormentor of the ahamkara goes incredibly hard

Might not be a top tier choice when we get our hands on them, but Ophidian + Synthoceps for Titan sounds really intriguing.

can you make a guide for f2p on what and how they should prioritize the free content until final shape? me and a few friends came back to destiny but we dont know where to start and what is the most efficient progression before the final shape.

I’m personally glad the class items are getting such a small perk pool, if it was diluted with every exotic perk in the game than any particularly powerful perk combo would turn into gjallarhorn 2.0 (maybe not in the sense of every lfg demanding you have it but definitely in the sense of it being up to unforgiving rng to get something that feels borderline mandatory). Also in the clip of frost armour they didn’t have an overshield so my best guess is that it’s going to be dr, maybe with some capability to apply stasis debuffs to your enemies.

Necrotic and harmony on warlocks could be wholly busted in pve. Gods throw on like dawn chorus go solar and be able to poison and scorch really well at the same time.

Starfire and verity may bring back fusion build?

I just hope we get lucky pants down the line for exotic class items

Inmost light on warlocks :O

You can probably make some nasty Broodweaver builds with a Necrotic/Stareater bond

if tehtering something counts as a super hit, galanor plus gyrfalcons will be great

Love how many warlocks and hunters are like, yeah these feel strong and interesting, but then titans are largely just,,, there I guess, it's not great Like Stareater synthos

SYNTHOS AND HOIL COMBO LETS GOOOO

I love you Datto! We need more than 4 spots for buffs and debuffs. I agree with the separation of buffs and debuffs, that would immensely help the gameplay awareness. I'd love to see 4-6 buffs on top, then 4-6 debuffs, then the gameplay feed above the ability bar. Maybe move the Nightfall / PVP bar to between the radar and HP bar if space is needed.

Oh boy secant filaments!! On the real tho, this is still really cool. It just seems like the actual amount of meta combos is fairly small with a lot of “fluff” filling in the other slots, same with the aspects they included with prismatic. Probably for the better, this does seem pretty damn balanced and doesn’t kill the rest of the game.