How F1's Electronic Marshalling Systems work - ft. Luca De Angelis

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The way marshals and race control work to safely control a race and respond to dangerous situations has been revolutionised over the last decade or so. In this video we speak to Luca De Angelis of digital marshalling providers, EM Motorsport, to break down the hows, whats and whys of the innovations in marshalling brought to the sport.
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@andrewhales-hill7756 3 года назад

A few comments from a marshal: - I don't think a lot of people realise how difficult it is for drivers to see flags displayed from traditional post locations. They are often off to one side and the drivers are looking so far through the corner that they only catching physical flags with the corner of their eyes at best. The light panels and steering wheel lights put the information straight into their eyeline. - In F1 races, marshals do not control the blue flags, that system is automatic (so Toto, you can pipe down about making sure Mazepin got them shown to him). - The location of the light panel marshal isn't always great. The normal flag posts have a good view of your sector, but the light panel controller can be squirrelled away somewhere with a rubbish view of what's going on and they are padlocked in place, so you can't relocate. - The lights do lose a level of information transfer to the drivers. All the yellow lights look the same, but when we display flags, the urgency with which they are displayed matters. The marshal with the yellow flag is typically holding one flag as they have to radio Race Control whenever they display it. This means there is a natural delay before double yellows are shown, but an "urgent" single yellow does get the message out that something is serious, rather than a car in gravel which (should) require no avoiding action. - The medical system is superb. The cars are equipped with a blue 'medical' light which pulses when an impact reaches a certain threshold. If there is an incident with cars equipped with these lights, and I see it lit, I know two things: I need to report to race control immediately for medical assistance, and that medical help is likely already on its way.

@midnightfuture 3 года назад

RE urgency information lost with light panels, can the blink interval perhaps communicate that? A slow-blinking yellow (say 0.5s interval) could be normal, but a fast blinking one (0.25s) means something major happened, and is likely to escalate to double-yellows, VSC, SC, or even red flag. Thanks for the insightful comment!

@IStMl 3 года назад

@@midnightfuture that should work

@PunnamarajVinayakTejas Год назад

I thought double waved yellows have a different animation to single yellows?

@muradist Год назад

@@PunnamarajVinayakTejas exactly

@muradist Год назад

@@PunnamarajVinayakTejas RECOMMENDED FLASHING FREQUENCY (Hz) is 2-4 this is from official FIA doc

@lucidmoses 3 года назад

This kind of episode should do very well for the people that think they are just doing nothing behind the scenes. Nicely done.

@SpanishGarbo 3 года назад

I wonder if Race Control got the data from Bottas' earpiece when Russell slapped his helmet.

@WeAreChecking 3 года назад

bonk

@donlucio03 3 года назад

Luca seems like a lovely lad. Hope he has a nice life

@awesomesauce2757 3 года назад

You seem like a lovely person. Hope you have a nice life. 😊

@pentilex4338 3 года назад

Sus comment

@donlucio03 3 года назад

@@awesomesauce2757 you too !

@benardo01 3 года назад

@@pentilex4338 init bare weird

@DJDiarrhea 3 года назад

Seems a bit threatening

@KurtisK94 3 года назад

Love content like this. Really shows off the hard work of people like this and how genuine he is about wanting to keep marshaling in the hands of humans but with the speed of electronics. These people help F1 more than we can imagine.

@bionicgeekgrrl 3 года назад

Communication is the key with this approach. Everyone knows the instant a Marshall pressed the button. Of course that relies on good Marshall training. It kinda operates a little how a modern railway signalling system works, by telling the driver about the incident as they approach the area, obviously it is more complex on a railway, but it has a similar concept.

@NeroVingian40 3 года назад

Exactly what I thought. AI and technology is so advanced nowadays but knowing that people don’t just blindly rely on it until it is really ready to just work without human interaction at all, puts a reassuring feeling in my heart. AI and technology is only good when they work perfectly, when they still not, we still gonna need human interaction.

@Staggs2200 3 года назад

As an American who recently got into f1, I've learned a lot from your videos. The amount of information provided without being overly complicated is incredible.

@JimTheFly 3 года назад

I hear you. I got into F1 about a year and a half ago, and finding Stuart's channel quickly made me feel so much more informed about many aspects of the sport that usually only get picked up slowly over long periods of time. Hell, I've been a NASCAR fan for about 15 years and in less than 2 I think I learned more about F1 engines and design than I have about NASCAR.

@dateymintah9585 3 года назад

Why do Americans feel compelled to introduce themselves when doing so much as commenting on a video? I don't mean this as an attack, but I'm quite worn from this unfortunate tradition

@JimTheFly 3 года назад

@@dateymintah9585 I think it's because here in the US, it's still viewed as a very European and not covered much at all. You want NASCAR? There's 2 major networks that carry it during the year on their primary or secondary channels. IndyCar? Most of that series is on NBC, with the rest on their sports channel. You want to watch Formula 1? Until this year it was on either ESPN2 or ESPNU (yes, they stuck it on the station that was originally created for college sports), usually very early in the morning because of time differences, and no replay. At least this year it's on ESPN and gets a replay later during the day. And during news broadcasts, in many areas of the country, you'll get NASCAR results (including the Trucks and Xfinity series, which are sort of like F2 & F3 in a sense, but not quite), and sometimes Indycar results. F1? Nah. In the southern states, that's EXTREMELY true since that's the hotbed of NASCAR. But even in other areas it's the case. I'm not sure I can remember the last time I saw anything F1 related on the local news (I'm from near New York City) since we had the proposed race in this area that got scrapped, aside from the Grosjean crash. Formula 1 is really starting to gain more traction here in the US (as exemplfied by it being on ESPN and how I'm seeing more F1 RU-vidrs talking about America being one of their top 2 locations for viewers), and the fact that we've got 2 races here starting next year could be HUGE for its growth, but it's still really somewhat niche.

@Staggs2200 3 года назад

@@dateymintah9585 I mentioned it because it provides some context as F1 is not very popular here in the states not cause it's some "unfortunate tradition" that Americans have

@udaysubramaniam2530 3 года назад

Probably just me but Luca resembles the guy who played Moriarty in Sherlock 😉

@ArpitAgarwal181 3 года назад

Just you

@EmyrDerfel 3 года назад

That actor is Andrew Scott, who also played a priest in Fleabag.

@hamdansaleem8546 3 года назад

I can't un see it dam boi

@danonthestrings 3 года назад

Thats what people DO

@liamkennelly7890 3 года назад

Im not the only one 😂

@RobertVinet 3 года назад

I was a race marshall at Mosport, Shannonville (small club track in southern Ontraio) and at the Montreal GP in the early 80's. Thanks for this. It's awesome to see the advancements. Question » How is blue flagging handled today? Back in the day, that was very difficult to do well. The blue flag marshall needed to stay on top of the driver positions, with no communications from race control, no electronics, radios, or TV, while only having a visual on the immediate sector.

@ALLRNDCRICKETER 3 года назад

Would be similar to how they do yellow flags etc. The driver in car gets the display on the wheel, & I believe their racing number is displayed on the panel with blue around it in relation to their position on track

@donhowson279 3 года назад

I depends on the race location. At some races, almost all flags are called from the tower. At others, the flaggers are left to do what they are trained to do. In some cases, it is a reflection on the experience level of the local marshals. In Montreal we are free to flag. I work all the major series in North America. Frankly, I find F1 the easiest to flag. Only 20 cars, liveries which make identifying teams at a distance easy, short pit stops. In Montreal, though, reaction time is the challenge. At most flag posts, you only have about 1 second to make a flag decision. Not uncommon at street circuits.

@tgm9991 2 года назад

These light boards can flash up a blue light and the car number of the car being lapped during the race which is done automatically when the lapping car is a couple of seconds away I think blue lights without any car number in practice and qualifying is manual though.

@heretustay 3 года назад

12:34 shoutout to you stuart, on these increasingly complex and detailed drawings and animations! love seeing your work progress

@wyfab12 3 года назад

Love these animations, especially helpful for new F1 fans:)

@rbjk 3 года назад

Feedback: You need figure out a way to record the audio of the guest separately so you can use it for the video, it’s much cleaner.

@test0r 3 года назад

Zencastr and similar podcast websites are great for this. Makes the whole thing a lot easier for everyone involved.

@McPlayer8t 3 года назад

Yeah, or if you have a Windows 10 computer, it is super easy to record good quality audio from a microphone. Just get the person you’re interviewing to search for the voice recorder app on their PC, it is there by default, then just hit the start recording button before the interview, and you’re golden, the file will be saved into the documents folder, E-mail it over and you’re done. I know this works well because my entire RU-vid channel has been recorded with this app, and the audio sounds fine.

@croyfer 3 года назад

Agreed! Also a feedback to Steward: Please, please mute your microphone (in post) in a interview like this when you are not talking - the sound of a grown-ass-man's whistling nose can really mess up the mood for the viewer :D Superduper great video, Love it! :D Best wishes from Norway!

@chainbear 3 года назад

Yeah agree - I do do this normally (like with predictions videos) but wasn't able to arrange it this time. Hopefully the subs helped

@wolflegion_ 3 года назад

@@chainbear subs worked great and audio was good enough, coming from a hearing impairment person. Don’t sweat it too much.

@sergioasch8096 3 года назад

I’m currently in the process to become a Marshal for the Mexico City GP!

@ntlespino 3 года назад

Nice! Hope to see updates

@thaisgomes3637 3 года назад

How? Can you tell us? Super nice!!!

@JimTheFly 3 года назад

I'd love to learn more about the process by which someone becomes a marshal for a race. That sounds awesome. Congrats!

@carpedorio9691 2 года назад

Good luck!

@emordetzki 3 года назад

Fascinating stuff! And it’s nice to remember Charlie Withings’ contributions to the safety of the sport

@westherm 3 года назад

We didn't truly appreciate him until he was gone...now we're stuck with Masi.

@skittleripple 3 года назад

Brilliant use of motion in this episode, love the graphics work from this channel!

@jonathanj2205 3 года назад

I’ve always wondered how this works. So thank you for making the video :)

@FBI_Agent 3 года назад

I appreciated the accidental timing of sirens in the background as he was talking about the medical car response (12:51)

@mathemats 3 года назад

Great video! Just one detail, at 6:06 when you show the wheel: the two LEDs with the yellow circles are not the flag LEDs, the two groups of three LEDs at each side of the screen are the flag LEDs, they are one yellow, one red and one blue for each group and turn on for the corresponding flag color.

@rafin.7052 3 года назад

Your videos have been my intro to f1 I'm glad every time I see a new one

@retrospektiv 3 года назад

Proud to be a marshal for the Singapore GP!

@LuisLuna-te4gf 3 года назад

Came here for one thing, left learning alot more

@shauntumeke 3 года назад

Not that Iceman needed it but how quick was that Marshall pressing the yellow flag button 🤘😎

@MrBuyerman 3 года назад

Just goes to show how interconnected and complex running a race weekend is. Love to see move of this type of stuff. Thinking tyres, caterers, track officials, all the unsung heros that go to make a race weekend fun for the fans.. awesome content.

@SimplySkippy1 3 года назад

This has genuinely been on of your best videos to date. I loved the insight from Luca and your classic informative animations, and the added information between interview clips. Great work!

@johannesschule5223 3 года назад

Could you make a video explaining how lap times are measured in Qualifying?

@96DDR 3 года назад

Uh that would be super interesting!

@SuperMech 3 года назад

I'm interested in this too!

@2cvsrule 3 года назад

It’s quite simple, there is a little box called a transponder which emits radio frequency that is picked up by a strip in the tarmac (where the sector and start/finish lines are) whenever you go over it. Same system used across all motorsport, sports like running, cycling etcetc.

@tgm9991 3 года назад

That's easy the exact same way it's measured during practise and the race. lol But seriously though Paddy has got it's an RFID transponder on the car and the timing loops at the start line and the sectors

@justrecentlyi5444 3 года назад

The attention to detail of adding deforming the webcam footage to suit the CRT TV image is crazy! These are so well made!

@mboothy 3 года назад

Sure I've read that when a marshal presses the yellow flag button the next light board turns green, and when double yellow is shown the previous light board turns yellow automatically. Useful to get that instant change for the drivers rather than having to wait for a marshal at the previous post to notice and wave a flag.

@santubandieri 3 года назад

I love the format, this was super informative.

@namenamename390 2 года назад

I still love the idea of earpieec accelerometers. It's such a brilliantly helpful device, and now that it's here, it's just an obvious and useful safety measure, but I would've never thought of putting accelerometers in the drivers' headphones. Props to whoever thought of that.

@mattwhelan13 3 года назад

facinating interview, it's amazing how far we've come

@LeXyS30 3 года назад

I've not tried to search for, but it feels like very unique theme for a video, and so much interesting information from Luca. Thank you for the insight.

@carriew5106 3 года назад

Fab quality subtitles. Really appreciate the effort and it makes your video's more accessible. Thanks

@nikkipdx4109 2 года назад

You're videos are so great. Love the content, script, graphics, everything. Thank you for making them!

@darkshines800 3 года назад

Fantastic work Stuart! I particularly like your brain animations :)

@oDiDio 3 года назад

Really good and informative video and great work getting the Info first hand from the "inside". Absolute perfect work. Your channel has tought me a lot about F1.

@feliciaonf1936 3 года назад

What a really interesting video and the work behind the scenes. Good stuff!

@bosyber 3 года назад

Another excellent production there, very informative, making us understand and appreciate more of what goes on during race weekend (and other events, of course) and the people that are doing it, thanks!

@Dheeeeraj 3 года назад

That sweet transition of the track fromBahrain to Imola! 👌🏻 Amazing video as always!

@arturo5050 3 года назад

Thanks for the video, and also for the music at the end :)

@d1t183 3 года назад

Always content of the highest caliber! The graphics, the content, and this time, the guest. Thanks for all the work you put in!

@bjarulez 3 года назад

Awesome video dude, lots of thing I didnt know but interest me!

@atid42 3 года назад

Great Insight and a good video to go with, love a chain bear video

@befalcon9498 3 года назад

Yea thanks Luca De Angelis. Very informative video. I would love to see more insider interviews. Maybe from the media people or medical team/safety car people

@TheDouglasDale 3 года назад

Excellent video, good sir! Thank you, and keep them coming!

@valouleboss45 3 года назад

Super interesting video on a subject that isn't often talked about! Very nice format with the interview

@carriew5106 3 года назад

Brilliant video Stuart. Great to hear from Luca , especially how the system connects to notifying on crashes and impacts during the race. I had no idea about that part and it's great to see how technology is being used to support safety and not just about letting the race leaders get past!

@tomwoolnough8068 3 года назад

Great job. Love this style of video

@Gnrnrvids 3 года назад

Great video mate. Very informative

@whyyoulidl 3 года назад

Great incite as always. Thanks for posting :-)

@pfriedel 3 года назад

A related question I'm curious about is how blue flagging works - presumably the marshals in sector 8 don't know that Verstappen is coming up behind (say) Vettel in sector 7, so they need to show Vettel the blue flag in sector 8, right? So how does that work? Is it just a constant stream of verbal instructions to the marshals from race control or is it more automatic?

@SuperMech 3 года назад

I second this, I would love to know too

@SeasickSkeleton 3 года назад

I've never done Formula One, but in practice and qualifying sessions you basically just have to know which cars are faster. You have a window of vision that's different at each post where you have to figure out who's faster and display blues. In Australia we have a lot of support races for Supercars, our National touring car series, and in those support races, race control doesn't help very much with blue flags. We pretty much have to pay attention to gaps lap by lap, with no timing or broadcast to know who has pitted. For Supercars, however, race control will let us know when a car starts to be lapped with a radio call like "Race control to all posts, blue flags for car 4."

@SeasickSkeleton 3 года назад

I was trackside 2 days ago, if you've got questions let me know

@RadeticDaniel 3 года назад

@@SeasickSkeleton nice insight you gave us here, thanks a lot o/ since F1 is impossible to see the car numbers at speed from a stationary observing position, my guess is race control commands blue flags for back markers, as the number of the car shows up at the pole screen otherwise marshalls would have to remeber both numbers for each team, make out the livery and spot the black or yellow differentiator at the top of the car seems unfair to expect that from someone working with race safety first

@donhowson279 3 года назад

No, it is the skill of the flagger. With experience, you are able to keep track of the running order of the cars. In F1, with only 20 cars and each team having a unique livery, it is not especially hard to spot which team is approaching, and the colour of the camera pod tells you whether it is the primary or secondary car/driver. Blue flaggers don't always have radios and and when they do, sometimes there is too much chatter and can be distracting. There are tricks, as well. To estimate the first lapped car, we measure the time between the last car and the first car. Fast or slow, pro drivers maintain fairly consistent lap times. So you can estimate the number of laps to the first lap, and even whether the pass will be at or near your station.

@dariareshetnikova3002 3 года назад

that was super interesting, simply explained with nice picture. thank you

@roryk101 3 года назад

Great vid and interview

@emanminus 3 года назад

Well done very well produced and Intresting

@flybynjght2324 3 года назад

I'm studying electrical engineering in school rn, so it's always really cool to see EE being implemented in different areas of motorsport. Learned a lot from this video, thanks!

@5alm0n 3 года назад

Really liked having this insight !

@danielfsmoreira89 3 года назад

Great content! Very, very goog! Keep it coming!

@Jafmasterflash 3 года назад

Another awesome & very informative video, a very important cog in the F1 machine Really enjoyed this one 👏🏻

@Vanta_Blue 3 года назад

Really interesting interview. Thanks for bringing it to us. =)

@andrewhicks3153 3 года назад

Big fan of your videos, but I think this has been one of your best so far. Thanks.

@MrCybergladiator 3 года назад

Fantastic video! Keep up the good work!

@SassySimian Год назад

Thanks, this series talking to people working in F1 is great! This helped me understand why Sainz wasn't penalized for passing Ocon in the straight at Zandvoort when Bottas broke down, and the whole debate about whether he has gotten ahead before or after getting to the marshal manually waving the flag. I thought he should have received the signal on his steering wheel and slowed down. Guess it just so happened that Bottas stopped at the beginning of a sector and Sainz used the fact that his sector wasn't lit yet to his advantage. Was still reckless and unsafe, imo, and it wasn't his first offense in the race. Maybe a trackside positioning system instead of one relying on satellites could make it reliable enough so it can have legal value.

@McPlayer8t 3 года назад

Really great insight, thank you both.

@morebasheder 3 года назад

Excellent video Stuart 👍🏽

@racingprincipal 3 года назад

Great video about the marshalling system. Thanks

@tyle.s9084 3 года назад

Very interesting and informative video. Keep up the great work

@ajinkyadhumane3853 3 года назад

Awesome content. Very informative. Keep it up.👍🏼

@Sam-gl4fi 3 года назад

Love your videos because I always learn something

@jonathanvogt2 3 года назад

Great video. Thanks mate! :)

@adslim9 3 года назад

Great, informative video!

@hamza-chaudhry 3 года назад

5:32 Door creak 12:51 That siren was quite timely 13:23 What's the point of the kerbs on the outside of the pit exit if you covered them?

@karelhoogendoorn 3 года назад

Very informative. Thnx!

@codycoyote6912 3 года назад

Excellent video. Thanks

@Razorlight0 3 года назад

Fantastic video Stuart!

@danielbarnes2885 3 года назад

Great video. Thanx!

@alejandrootero2541 3 года назад

fascinating topic for a video, chain bear never disappoints.

@darrenguy1264 3 года назад

Very interesting video. Not all tracks work the same way though. As an F1 Marshal for Yas Marina (Post 10), the vast majority of the flag panels are now controlled centrally from race control and the marshal only controls the panels in some F2 or F3 qualifying or practice; I guess this is to avoid errors in incorrect displaying or pressure as you mentioned. Despite this, physical flag use is still required, as is the showing of VSC or SC boards at all marshal posts. The instruction for this still comes via radio to the Post Chief, who informs the marshals of their action i.e. put out board, yellow flag, clear debris from track etc.

@Chris-nq9nb 3 года назад

That was really interesting. I've been watching F1 since the early 90s but I learnt a few things, like I usually do with a Chainbear video!

@Timberwolf69 3 года назад

I think, unelss you watch an older, often watched video of his, it is quite improbable not to learn something from watching his videos.

@hedlund 3 года назад

Oh hell yes. More delving into infrastructure/support and whatnot , please!

@shyamdam 3 года назад

Great video, good work.

@Marjoleeein 3 года назад

Very cool inside look!

@jamsbong 3 года назад

I think the next step would be to add video cameras that connects to machine learning that set off alarm if the drivers went off track or violated track limit. Then the race control can verify the alarm to check if it is not a software error and make decision on the appropriate warning/penalty to be applied. This has advantage over race control actively monitoring each corner and allow them to focus on safety and other more important works.

@jeanc3167 3 года назад

Great work

@tralala- 3 года назад

Greetings from Hong Kong! Nice video explaining GPS!!😜

@the14thstar64 3 года назад

You rock brother 👍

@piyushpokhriyal3261 3 года назад

Very gud content... Love your work❤️🔥

@knutpohl339 3 года назад

Awesome content!

@kingduffi9999 3 года назад

why has this channel not reached the 1.000.000 mark yet????!!! people....do...something....about....it!!!!!!!!!!

@polindon 3 года назад

Thank you for so much

@fafmotorsport 3 года назад

I knew there were accelerometers SOMEWHERE in order to figure out impact G’s, but hadn’t really thought of exactly where. Great idea for them to be located in the earpieces, and makes perfect sense!

@AliAdam80 3 года назад

amazing video

@tuhin1264 3 года назад

Good And Unique Information. Thanks Have a Good day

@samfisher2790 3 года назад

Great video

@Username25494 3 года назад

Amazing video

@walterpaulinofontenele190 3 года назад

Great video. Congratulations

@michallacki9462 3 года назад

Awesome video

@y_fam_goeglyd 3 года назад

That was really interesting. Great to hear from Luca about the system, especially about them keeping human marshalls and why. Technology is a wonderful thing, but it's only as infallible as the people who make it!

@TheBroz 3 года назад

Fantastic video chap. I'd be fascinated to see what the technical solution to monitoring track limits is, if GPS isn't precise enough.

@dustinmorrison6315 3 года назад

It was really nice to hear the immediate reactions from the other drivers after the Grosjean accident. You could tell they were all genuinely concerned for him and not mad about the race stopping. They know it's serious when that red light appears.

@cabletelcontar5440 3 года назад

Holy cow! I would have sworn that different companies handled the different systems. One for flags, one for the GPS, another for the accelerometers etc etc

@TheBroz Месяц назад

That’d be an integration nightmare