In fact, in order to outrun a lightning bolt, you have to run just under the speed of light, so he is already faster or just as fast as the speed of light from the very beginning.
First of all, Barry was shown multiple times when he was faster than 864 mph. If Savitar is so fast that a normal human can't see him, why the hell would he be only 864 mph.
It may be right, but remember that Savitar uses the travels through the Speed Force to travel to place almost instantaneously. In the comic Flash the Human Race we can see the flash travel using the speed force faster than a plank instant when he races a cosmic gambler back to earth. Plus this is just beginning Savitar's stride. For a speedster the more you run the faster your speed increases within that stride.
Barry's fastest speed before tachyons was around mach 3.3 but after the enhancement he was able to go 4x faster which works out at around mach 13.2... Which is according to google is 9974.5 mph. Less than mach 1 is slow for Barry, never mind Savitar
I just wanna sat Barry normal running sped presently is about 2500-3000 MPH . so if saviour is running faster than Barry that must be 3100+. ( I got the quote from season 2 where wally is drag racing and iris is stabbed)
Flash on the TV show hit or will hit Mach 14.83 I haven't finished yet and GodSpeed goes 10x the speed of light and Savitar is way faster than that so he GodSpeed so that means he is faster than your calculations. Good estimate though! ;D
Absolutely wrong. Berry traveled around 1,500 something mph that little clip was just when he started running and after he just got done being frozen. He would of gotten slown down and his top speed would have been there yet.
Ok Barry in the show has moved at Mach 3.3 on his own, with the Proton Accelerator, it was amped up to Mach 13.2, if Savitar is far faster then Barry has ever went, then he is far faster then a speed not even Mach 1.2(the speed you said he was at)
so ur saying savitar runs 864 miles/hour, that just means hes going a little over the speed of sound, whereas barry in the show can go mach 2 in the beginning of his flash career,and obviously hes wayyy faster now(with the time travel and alternate dimension running), so you wasted your time making an unacurate video, and saying mach one is godly, when comic book flash (even though its pre new 52) can go several times the speed of light
Savitar is way faster , Barry in season 1 could run Mach 2 or 1500 miles per hour , savitar is not running 864 mph . Current Barry (season 3) can run Mach 13.2 . So savitar is at least 4 times as powerful or more , the gap between him and Barry is farther than Barry and zooms was at the beginning of season 2 , Barry can't even hit touch savitar and can barely see him . While he could perfectly see zoom and manage to hit him.
Savitar’s speed is likely around 7 times that of Barry’s using calculations from him sipping around Central City Putting Barry at Mach 13.2 and Savitar at Mach 92.4
Barry can only travel that fast with the speedforce. I think in the show, the fastest Barry has gone without the speedforce is mach 5+. I hate how the show doesn't show how dangerous the speedforce is to tap into. In the comics, Wally West is the fastest known speedster without tapping into the speedforce at about mach 4.The speedforce is dangerous AF, though show makes it look as easy as pouring a glass of milk.
@@Noaher256 those are good calculations, but savitar was messing with flash here, so it's at least 50x faster than mach 92, maybe even much, much more. when flash came back, he described the event so that he only saw blurry, if we take into account the fact that flash is also a speedster and that he can enter flashtime in order to react quickly and still see blurry, that only means that savitar is wayyy faster than flash. when savitar held flash and ran with it on the gps map flash was everywhere in the city, that means that savitar literally teleported but immediately
Just wanna put out there, since I'm seeing a lot of people calling me out for being inaccurate regarding how fast Savitar can go, note that I did this video in an attempt to show the speed he's capable of in a specific instance. I even say that it's not his top speed in the video. This video is made for those interested in getting some kind of number for a specific instance.
Yeah but maybe further research into the topic and tv show might have brought up the fact that the actual numbers are much higher and maybe if you mentioned maybe a definite number,such as Mach 13, which savitar is faster than, so many might not have been triggered. This video is very accurate if it is judged by the clip present in the video alone but considering all the other factors, maybe another rough estimate from research from the TV shows or comics could have been slotted in to enlighten us to higher accuracy.
Savitar Barry is moving at least at mach 13.2 if you do the math. I would say even if Savitar does somekind of teleporting, he needs to move at least for times faster, if the speed force is the actusl distance between two places and just protects him from friction, he hast to be about ten times faster, that would enable him to run about 27 miles in a second. That covers with the satelite picture, I think. Savitar: maybe Mach 132
KLyfe - Science Behind Superheroes that's not even near Barry's lowest speed according to my calculations boy just end your channel because you were not chosen by the speed force according to your absurd video
are you for real? hell is the video for real????? your saying Savitar can run just above mach 1 yet barry can run up to mach 13.5 and that's just currently, he will get even faster in the future. when he beat Zoom he was running at mach 13, since then he has gotten slightly faster. clearly Savitar is running atleast 3 to 4 times faster than flash and Jay. this means that savitar must be travelling at around mach 52 atleast in order to throw barry and Jay around like a rag doll. the fact that he can't even be precieved by human eyes suggests that Savitar is moving fast than light itself, which is why Joe, iris and other none speedsters cannot see him. however they do see some sort of ball of light which suggests that he be travelling close to the speed of light but not faster. at the moment it is unclear how fast Savitar really is but it is a fact that he is much much much much faster than mach 1. Common this video is just click bait. fucking unsubscribed!!!
I doubt that he's moving faster than light because 1. That would mean he's time traveling and 2. It would mean no one can see him. He's probably moving faster than they can perceive him, because as the god of speed he's probably always moving.
sameei21 People who are interested can watch and learn a little bit. I try to incorporate as much educational stuff as I can in the videos, like this one, with the speed formula. If you don't like the outcome, the outcome of a video that I admit is smaller than my other ones, that's fine. I don't get why you're so angry. Please, take that elsewhere.
jessie ran I quote "A little under mach 3" and Barry was still faster. the speed you are saying savitar is running at is just over mach 1. in the scene, Barry was too slow for savitar so your calculation is complete bullsh*t
Are you for real lmao? Barry outran zoom who got twice as fast after absorbing Barry's speed(Zoom's base speed was around mach6-8 before absorbing Barry's speed). In season 2 finale, Barry managed to get faster than Zoom despite not using a tachyion device.) So, we can safely say Barry was running at speeds much higher than mach 13.5(Barry's previous top speed with Tachyion device). I guess, we can estimate his top speed in season 3 to be around Mach14-15. It was clearly shown that, Savitar was atleast 5 times to 6 times faster than both Barry and Jay.
SPAAAAACE it was an assumption but from the clips of fight we saw of Savitar he should have been at least this much faster than both Jay and Barry. I mean, he made both of them look like they were moving in slow motion
i'm not denying the math and applaud your effort but savitar is way faster than that since barry in season 1 was pulling out speeds faster, if you watch the show you know that they often change perception multiple times in a scene so a second in our time could be like a tenth of a second for the characters the best example of this is when savitar first appears he starts off being a bolt of light for barry in our time and then proceeds to be a speedster figure with the light trails but clearly faster than barry but the time on the show slows for this to happen. what im saying is that you dont know what perspective is represented here that half a second could actually be a tenth or a millionth we don't know. savitar remains invisible for any non-speedster, and at his fastest so far remains a bolt of light for barry that by barry own admission carried him so fast it was almost instantaneous from one place to the next, and this is the fastest barry's ever been, he beat zoom who was a velocity 9 speedster that had previously taken barrys tachyon enhanced speed. zoom was 5 times faster than barry early in season 2 putting him around 8000-10,000mph then he took barrys enhanced speed which is around 4xs faster than his fastest in season 2 around 12,000mph combining them puts zoom around 22,000mph and barry left the speed force matching if not beating that. this increase in speed is also shown in a scene in the invasion crossover where bullets are completely stationary for him where he struggled to catch 3 in season 2, despite this increase savitar comes in and barry can barely perceive him and he can literally run rings around him in the time it takes barry to go a few steps savitar ran a full loop around him. i take that aforementioned bullet scene as a reference barry is as slow to Savitar as bullets are to season 3 barry. and that is not including the speedforce thing he does which according to the map and cisco was almost as though he was in multiple places at once which is faster than light speeds which also serves to show my perception point, that scene where Savitar is carrying barry around is several seconds long for us and we only see 3 or 4 locations where the map shows he visits dozens of others in less than a second meaning those several seconds were probably millionths of a second if not less in in-universe.
Dude take the video Down he is waaaay freaking faster than Mach one he is probaly Mach 100. Before you make a video about a character on a TV Show you shoves probaly watch the tw show.
have you seen the show he is waaay faster if what you are saying is true which it is not he is not even mach 1 he is at least as fast as the speed of lightning. Get your facts before you make a video about it
Edward Kaleva he ran out a Black hole he has ben waaay faster than lightning s1 ep7 & ep15. Zoom went 4 times faster than Barry before Zoom Got Barry,s speed. So Zoom Was atleast Mach 20 and Barry went almost as fast as Zoom in the finale episode. So when Barry is running in normal State No stress or a very serious situation he is probaly running Mach 10. Savitar is atleast 10 times faster than Barry in his normal state in Savitars normal state.
Asger Bugge No, Zoom went almost 30% faster than Barry, before Zoom took Barry's speed. Which is shown in season 2 episode 18 within the first 3 minutes.
Dude.... In the early season 1 "speed trap" trailer . Barry ran at 700 something mph.... You are telling me Savita just barely runs faster then that???
SOOO inaccurate!! Basically, a normal human sees the The Flash as a blur, but does not see Savitar at all. The Flash however, sees Savitar as a blur. In a way, Barry is a regular human compared to Savitar (If Barry is a regular human, Savitar would be a somewhat slow speedster). Barry for example probably runs at Mach 6 regularly (surely he can go faster just never actually needs to) Mach 6 = 4603.61 mph. A regular human can run at 15 mph. Meaning Flash can run at about 306 times faster than a human. But now if Barry is somewhat the human when compared to Savitar, 4603 * 102 = 469506 or Mach 611. Maybe that is too fast because I doubt Barry will ever reach that speed anytime soon and he probably needs to get even faster than Savitar to defeat him.
If you'd watch the show, you'd realize that this video was wrong(look at the other comments), he actually runs a tiny bit faster than the speed of light. But he obviously has such mastery over his powers and the Speedforce, that he can control whether or not he time travels when running at fast speeds.
luiztomikawa it's not! this prick hasn't seen the show. he admitted it! savitar is anywhere from 4 times to 1000 times faster than the flash at this moment in the series. flash is atleast mach 13.5, some say 16 so you can imagine how fast savitar really is. don't listen to this ass. he just makes click bait videos. does little to no research and thinks he is right.
MetalBucket savatar uses portals so it looks like hes going fast thats why hes unique but barry uses the speed force and runs he cant create portals...hope that helped you
You Siád this was the speed at which he likes to travel. In season 1 episode 1 flash got to 800mph. And in season two when he had to jump over a bridge, he instantaneously got to Mach 2.2 which is much faster than Savitar's preferred travelling speed. They make savitar slow so that we can see him, or else there would even be a frame with him in it when he escaped.
I did a tiny bit of research. According this video Savitar is slow compared to Barry then because Barry needed to run mach 2.3 in season ONE. It's season THREE and I'm 99.99% sure he got faster probaly around mach 3.3 or 3.4 which is about 2500 mph. Yo Savitar you gotta step your game up bro + imagine how Wally's gonna be. (my guess mach 4.5/6 which is about 3500 mph. Wow. . .
ok that is crap. if he ran that fast Barry would run way faster than that already. yet Barry can't even perceive the savitar running. Barry runs at Mach 13.2 that's like 6000 mph. way after than 864. yeah your wrong.
This Boy, there is no Mach 13.2. There is only Mach 1-5. And this guy may be smart, but Savitar does not run 800 miles. That was Barry at the end of the first episode in season one.
This Boy, yeah you would call that 13.2 times faster than speed of sound. You wouldn't call it Mach 13.2 that makes you sound dumb. Btw, speed of sound is about 770 miles her hour.
864 mph? Mach 1.12? You've gotta be kidding me. In *season 1*, Barry had to go at *MACH 1.1* to deliver the supersonic punch to Girder. He is considerably faster than that by now, especially since the tachyon enhancer from last season (season 2 episode 18) multiplied his speed at that point by *at least* 4 times. Savitar was shown to be in several places at one time in episode 7, and if he's *faster* than Barry, then Mach 1.12 is WAY too slow. Check your facts.
Super Gogito with the tachyon device he ran x4 times faster then his max so he was going about 6000 mph, then zoom stole his speed, making zoom go about 12000 mph and after Barry's interaction with the speed force he was running as fast as zoom so savitar must be going a lot faster then 12,000 mph
zoom was 4/5xs faster than early season 2 barry (just above mach 2)so around 8000-10000mph then tachyon barry went 4xs faster than mid season 2 barry (around 3300mph) so around 12000 then zoom stole that speed making him 20000-22000mph and barry leaving the speed force matching that if not beating it. so around mach 25 barry is now so fast bullets dont really move for him, but savitar comes in and barry sees hims as a bolt of lightning, and in the time it takes him to go 3 steps savitar does a full loop of him and then goes to kick him. the thing with wally is that he is developing faster so hes reached mach 2 in a few weeks that took barry a year to do but hes still like 15 times slower than barry but hes getting faster quicker. the reason the video is incorrect due to the change in perspective from real time to barrys perception to savitar's perception like when savitar was carrying barry around it was like a half minute scene for us and we only seen 4 locations but inuniverse Savitar reached dozens of locations in a second (barry even said it was almost instantaneous). so the half second of film could be like a millionth of second in real time plus the use of catlins powers really gave him a slower speed as well. it would have made more sense to use the scene when barry ran to savitar and savitar did a loop of him, since that scence was in Savitar's perspective and barry was as slow for him as a bullet is for season 3 barry you could use a ratio. barry is about 13times faster than the average bullet so savitar is about 13times faster than barry clocking him in around 260,000-290,000mph savitar goes aprox mach 360 where barry goes mach 25 and wally goes mach 2 atm
I think that black tunnel Savitar runs through is Barry's perception of the earth around him while he is moving faster than the speed of light. Since he is traveling faster than light, he can't see it, making Savitar able to run mach 880991, or 186,000 mi/sec. That's about 669600000 mph
accually there are many videos that explain this even in the comics he isnt the god of speed. godspeed is the god of speed. zoom was faster than barry. that doesnt make him a god.
YourManPanda god speed is not the god of speed. Like savitar he is just calling himself that. Also, though this is not directly a point against you, but in fact most people in this comment section, god speed has nothing to do with the flash to show. The only reason any if you know who he is is because he debuted in the comics soon before the start of season 3. He has absolutely nothing to do with the to show, and likely never will; there are dozens of speedsters in the flash comics, all of whom are in more depth than Godspeed, so the TV show will prob never use him
wtaf is this video. I'm gonna just randomly guess and draw lines in Photoshop and say things to make it seem like I know what I'm talking about... He said this reminds me of all things quantum but how would something as macroscopic as anything visible to us even resemble anything quantum... He should have done ratios. Basic calculus could have given you an answer. In that shot he uses as comparison it is slowed down. We cannot see him move and it is from Barrie's perspective and if you want to be cannon he can perceive events that happen in an atosecond. To not see him at all, which 9/10 times we see him means he is moving faster than the speed of light. 864 miles an hour isn't even close to what Barry Allen in this show runs. To create a wall of wind to block a tsunami with such little surface area would mean Barry is traveling in orders of magnitude faster than 800 miles an hour, and Savitar is vastly faster than him. This is sloppy and you should be embarrassed to have posted this half worked video. Please don't say things based on guesses when you literally could have used his height and the angle measure of the floor to any point to calculate the EXACT DISTANCE.
yeah i know what you mean but they have shown that barry going like 20000mph (barrys current fatsest based on his victory over zoom who took V9 and stole barrys tachyon speed making him about 20000mph and barry matching that) is so fast no one can compete other than speedsters whats it gonna be like when fully experienced flash travels 10xs speed of light and could encircle the globe 70+times in a second and thats not even going into how fast wally is. Oliver thought it was hard stopping him last time barry at his best can move faster than Oliver and any other human can think
Mhm... However I dont think Wally or his powers will be around for too long. If they make Kid Flash more powerful then the show shouldn't be titled Flash anymore :/ I think hes gonna sacrifice himself at the end or get killed in some way.
Kev Fer that might be true unless they "kill" barry and make wally the flash (at least temporarily) or they make him a flash and send him to another city or they make him a bad guy
when barry was training jesse he chose to run at mach 3 which is 3675 km/h and if savitar "chooses" to run at 864 mph he would be running at 1390.47 km/h or mach 1.13, but in the tv show he is appr almost 5x times faster than barry.
864mph is not how fast he is, just think for a second the sound barrier is just bellow that at 767mph and the light barrier is around 700,000 mps (per second) and Barry has cracked these both due to the fact that he also cracked the dimensional barrier which is thousands (not actually sure about this but it's an estimate) of times faster than the speed of light (Barry has yet to crack the speed force barrier), and think Barry couldn't even see savitar (well he could but not while he was running) and the way he was running I have half a mind to believe that savitar has cracked the speed force barrier.
Barry has run at Mach 3.3 in the episode with trajectory and Mach 13.2 with the tacheon enhancer and I am much faster than him.So taking his speed to around Mach 4, he is faster now, My speed just cannot be a tad over the speed of sound,Mach 1. So I definitely am not the speed stated in the video. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kingbillz32069 Firstly, I could go through a speedforce tunnel to basically instantaneously teleport from one place to another again and again until I form multiple after images of myself enabling myself to be everywhere and secondly the reason I know about flashpoint is becoz I'm connected to the speedforce and since the speed force is an extra dimensional entity, I know what happens when a timeline is tampered and what happens in each and all of its possible futures. I believe I am from the current timeline the tv show shows coz Julian exists now in this timeline and he is the one who reopened and unleashed the philosophers stone and hence once again releasing me into this timeline. Alright gotta go and kill iris now in a possible future ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Actually Barry does not use tachyons anymore because a. They were destroyed when Barry tried to get his powers back b. His speed naturally increased to mach 13.2 when he left the speed force after dying
864 is just a bit faster then speed of sound... savitar is fast enough to tap in the speed force which is about 52x faster then speed of light around 98,732 mph or even faster..
I think the ratio of savitar's speed to flash's speed is probably about the same ratio as the flash's speed is to a normal human being's speed. Because the very first time savitar appears, barry runs and tries to punch him, but you can see the video in slow motion and see that barry's fist has barely moved and savitar has already ducked it and is running around the room. Barry's fist is still in the same position when savitar circles back and slams into him. It is similar to what happens when a non speedster tries to punch barry (there are exceptions). The non speedster's fist would be in the same position while barry runs around him and punches him while the non speedster is still halfway throwing his punch. What do you think?
When Barry first ran he went 700 miles per hour so savitar is only 164 miles faster than him know Barry knows how to use his powers and can run1600 miles an hour so if savitar is faster than Barry he would have to run way more than 864 miles per hour
the imaginary axis is better at explaining the science behind comics! maybe you can learn a thing or 2 from him! no offense. just thought that i tell you so you can make the show better...
KLyfe - Science Behind Superheroes that means this is clickbait because the title says 'how fast is savitar' and you only say how fast he is in a specific instance that is nowhere near his top speed
864 m/h? is that a joke? That's about Mach 1. Barry should have been faster, but he isn't. Compared to flash savitar was like at his walking speed for fucksake.
That is so true...if he could only go at 864 mph he is slower than both barry allen and wally west as 864 mph is on mach 1.12607and by the end of season 1 barry is already travelling at mach 2
Zubby Zubair Exactly it doesn't make sense, as we saw in the satellite scene savitar was in several places at the same time, that's basically comic book level speeds.
I don't get it, Barry's TOP speed is calculated as Mach 13.2, and you say Savitar is moving at 864 mph, that's Mach 1.01, and Barry said that even from HIS point of view, it still felt like he was instantly from one place to another
Nah because flash runs now 798 mph because speed force gave him a lot more speed than usual so Saf's tar can't run that fast he can run at approximately 1098 mph
Barry is so much faster than mach 2. He stopped a black hole(s1 ep23), saw lightning move crazy slow (s1 ep 7 & 15) he was almost as fast as Zoom in (s2 ep23) and that was after he took Barry's speed so Zoom was probaly mach 16 and Barry in that senario mach 15.
This is like saying: "awesome, how fast is your new Ferrari?" "well, I don't know its top speed, but when I drive to the stop lights over there I reach 30mph". Come on dude, you know when you make a video like this, with such a title, this is not what people are watching this video for.
That's so far off the flash at this point in the show. In season 2 I think he runs a Mach 3.3, zoom is 4x faster than that and then Barry matches zooms speed in the finale so that's Mach 13.2 which is approximately 10000mph
