Scru's 100% right about Android 16's death being the final straw. It's not just that, though. For Gohan's whole life he's known that if someone dies they can just be brought back with the Dragon Balls, but 16 was entirely a machine. Cell killed the one person that can never be brought back and Gohan understood that. You add those together and that being the moment that turned him SSJ2 makes, well... *Perfect* sense.
And what makes it go further is 16’s nature was similar to Gohan 16 wasn’t a fighter for non other than 17 and 18 who he learned how to care about and the planet he figured he cared about cause he liked wildlife Gohan saw that and was like that’s me if I don’t shape up he basically watch his peaceful ideals die at that moment
@Mavolovolo-zc4lm So? Just like Goku, Gohan cares about the lives of others even if they are evil. 16s death was apart of his rage being set free, it was the literal last straw whether you agree with it or not
Don't forget Android 18. She saw her brother get absorbed, saw nearly everyone on the island be as strong, if not STRONGER than her, and KNEW cell was trying to absorb her. And she stood there doing nothing
@@jerrygoodman1943 Semi-Perfect Cell: IF ONLY I REACHED MY PERFECT FORM , I'D HAVE BEATEN ALL OF YOU!! Vegeta: OH Really? Trunks: noo SPC: I'D have destroyed you without a second thought! Vegeta: .....Go onnn Trunks: nooooOOOO-
Man, you know it's bad when they started treating MAJIN BUU like a joke. The man who literally ATE a Final Explosion against Majin Vegeta, the man who was getting YoYo Punched by SSJ3 Goku and smiled about it... Majin Buu being cuffed the way he has been, in my opinion, might be worse than how they cuff Piccolo.
To be fair that's just because Buu is lazy like he could highkey be just as dangerous as any of the Saiyans or GODs. Also Uub is sitting in the cut always
Scru, Gohan lock in is literally when Goku locks in. Look at the first Cooler movie when Goku turns super sayian for the first time, that scene is the proof that Goku is Gohan’s father.
Coldest character in dragon ball for me is Kakarot, aka Goku when he locks in. Gohan just looks the coldest because when he's locked in is against enemies that he could easily kill. When Goku locks in is against enemies on his level, and even them feel the difference, they know if they fuck up that ''clown'' they were fighting few seconds ago will pack them up.
Speaking about Gohan lowkey being a villian when he locks in made me think him getting that "Beast" mode was a perfect form for him. It reminds me of certain depictions of werewolves in movies and "Non Pure-Bloods" that have the most power and the gnarliest transformations
Orange piccolo was written pretty well. On the surface it seems rushed, but every namekian ties back to the dragon balls so it makes sense that he got a big power boost from asking the dragon to release his potential. Hes literally the legendary super namekian, word to dbza.
Honestly who even cares if its well written or not at this point. DB has crossed that point a while ago. Freeza went from Namek level to God Blue level in mere 4 months just by beating up his underlings. 17 went from getting manhandled by imperfect cell to God Blue level or atleast very close to it if you wanna cope that Goku was holding back. Freaking Roshi went from struggling against Kid Goku and Tien back in DB to casually wiping the floor with Freeza soldiers and even went against a few of the handpicked warriors of other universes. Who even cares at this point anymore?? Just enjoy when the character you like gets any screentime now lmao
tbh if they gonna bring the humans to get mixed, at least them rock a few henchmen. maybe a few sergeants before the colonels and the generals show up. have them there to get hoe’d only, is crazy.
If you wanna go on a piccolo rant, carthu dojo has a video called "the road to orange piccolo" that shows his overall history. I recommend checking it out
This all on Krillin & Vegeta, facts. I watched the android arc 3 months ago, Krillin never pissed me off ever like any other anime character, straight wildin
Hot take: Gohan would never have been a good replacement for Goku, goku even tried to pass the torch to gohan twice and he failed catastrophically and resulted in his friends “death” (Perfect cell, and super buu)
2:43 blame Vegeta too out there Gassing himself after coming out of hyperbolic time chamber just to let Cell hit the perfect form and slump his son For Stopping Cell😂😂😂😂😂.These Deadbeat Dads ain't gotta dodge tye allegations 😂😂
so in terms of who fault it is Its Krillin for destroying the remote Vegeta for not finishing Cell and Fighting Trunks who was trying to kill Cell 18 for not running away when 16 told her to dip kinda at fault Goku for not eating a Senzu Bean when he needed to Not at fault Piccolo gave his all Tien weak but still helped 16 and 18 escape Trunks, the anime makes it look like he's also at fault for not killing 18 when he had the chance but thats only in the anime, in the manga as soon as Cell noticed 18 he told Vegeta to stop trunks and then hit everyone with Solar Flare and absorbed 18, there was no "leave now" from Trunks to 18 they never spoke once So yea, Trunks continues to be the only person that gets shit done
Android 16's death was definitely a buildup of everything for Gohan. Throughout his life, Gohan has been in positions where he potentially had the power to stop a villain everyone else was struggling with, but he didn't because he couldn't control his power. He was the only one could really fight Raditz, but didn't know how to tap into his power, so Goku died to kill Raditz. Then later with Frieza, he had flashes of his hidden power, but again, he couldn't control it, and thereafter Krillin died. The Cell Saga was a buildup of all of this. When Android 16 dies, it's a reminder of these past incidents. It's driven home even more when Cell refers to 16 as "yet another fighter you could have saved." That really was the final straw for Gohan, especially after being told by 16 that it's not a sin to fight, which has always been Gohan's biggest drawback, his pacifism. It's great character writing.
i feel like android 16's death wasn't the last straw, it was the warning. Cell was warning Gohan that he wasn't playing around and he WILL kill them if they don't lock in.
What are you saying "gohan doesnt hesitate on the kill" that's literally why cell ended up blowing himself up as semi-perfect cell, or why super buu absorbed gotenks. Sure, its not the same reason as goku, but he definitely isnt one to just pull the trigger. Edit: i may have spoken too soon, but still, saying "thats the piccolo" is disingenuous
He meant hesitate for some sympathy reasons like Goku letting Vegeta live and giving Frieza some of his power. Gohan wasn't letting cell off, he was enjoying beating him too much and that's what cost him.
@@marcust-kq4cv the manga has piccolo do this as well, in the manga version of the tournament of power, piccolo was about to eliminate an opponent, which would cause the erasure of a universe, and piccolos hesitated, before Frieza knocked the other guy off
Hey Scru! your reactions are always really good! I know you’re a big fan of Piccolo. I think you would appreciate Orange Piccolo a little bit more if you watch “The Road to Orange Piccolo” from Carthu’s Dojo. Very lore-rich. It’s a 10 minute video you could react to on here. But yeah, I don’t consider it an axxpull, because of the lore. Beast Gohan is still whack though. lmao
You should react to The Kevin Bennett's Shy Guy Rap "Who I Am" Ft. Zach B, it's so much more than just another nerdcore track, it's a general song about being an introvert.
As a Dragon Ball fan, you gotta react to FabvL's Goku song "Save The World" it's gotta be the best tribute song to Akira Toriyama! It also feels like he's talking about himself and the influences that Toriyama had on him and his work.
It was 16..16 made goahn realize sometimes you have to be violent to orotext things and people you love he did say " 16 you loved life and you were just an andriod,no more i wont watch this anymore "
11:10 idk what the hell you talkin bout, that's Chi Chi's genes not Piccolo. Did we forget how Chi Chi was willing to fight Buu after seeing him delete the whole human population? Chi Chi deserves more credit cause if she had powers she'd be more raw than anyone in DBZ
I just gotta say it, I hate how people shit on Yamcha so much, like the guy is still one of the strongest humans on the planet, Plus he's a professional baseball player, so he's got a respectable job too
Preach Bro! They be Str8 hoing Piccolo. You pointed out, that he clearly be picking up the other Z-Fighters work. Just think of how many times Piccolo came to Gohan's aid; while Goku just standing there and watching Cell pack up his ONLY son! (Goten wasn't born yet) 😅😂
