How Good Is TwoSetViolin's Chinese? 

He has the same problem as me, my Mandarin gets much better when discussing food

There's another (English) video where they talk about an orchestra that's all made up of medical professionals, yeah, though I think it's *also* implied that they're mostly of Asian descent as well!

@@CeciliaTan yeah, I think I remember that.

Free hong kong

​@@CeciliaTanso a pun she did not get cause it required historical context

​@@asdt5958 from what?

Probably Eddy go to Chinese class regularly in Australia as a kid. But Brett didn't.

@@Tracy-mz9bi I think so, and Brett's accent might because he stayed in Taiwan longer before gone to Australia

Eddy sounds way more Taiwanese to me tho as a Taiwanese here, maybe cause Brett just doesn't really have the fluency to let me identify his accent haha

Brett was born in Australia, Eddy was born in Taiwan and moved to Australia when he was young

They were both born in Taiwan and both coincidentally left Taiwan when they were about 5 years old. And they both attended chinese classes as kids, so they wouldn’t completely lose it, but I think Eddy persisted longer and liked it more than Brett, as well.

Here is hoping, she discover Two Set Violin vid taken chinese test. That was a good one!

Yeeeees!!! Collab needs to happen!!

Has what?

Mother tongue?

​@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 It's the characters that she explained, to improve (or the noun progress)

@@hopegate9620 “their mandarin has improved”?

uhh, anything with radical 言 is the simplified ... so probably to many to count, only couple thousand exception

@@sovietwizard1620 uhh, obviously I am not counting the 偏旁 like 言，车，金 etc. if we included the various simplified pianpang we would have many more thousands of simplified characters, but where ALL that was simplifed was the left side determinant its a no brainer to recognize the other character set.

@@QuizmasterLaw its not just left radical, all other parts, more complicated ones. You aren't talking about 偏旁, you are talking about 部首, i am talking about 偏旁, they are difference. And you weren't being specific? You never mentioned the irregular ones.

My lazy ass cant read all of this in one sitting 😭

Also there are scenarios where historical alternate forms are used, like 凭 instead of 憑, 从 instead of 從，号 instead of 號，气 instead of 氣; replacing the sound component to make it more accurate/simpler to write 憶、億--->忆、亿/ 階 ---> 阶/ 燈-->灯/ 襖-袄/ 躍-->跃; reduce the sound component: 幣-币, 趙-赵, 觀權勸---->观权劝；make the character into a simpler phono-semantic character: 竄->窜, 竊->窃, 藝->艺, 審->审，(also maybe 華-华， 畢-毕) ; use the "special part" indicate the whole character 聲 習 殺--->声习杀 ; also completely new words based on logic, like 驚-->惊, 護-->护 .

I agree. I haven't gotten past getting the tones right 😅

I want to learn Cantonese and maybe Taiwanese Mandarin and I'm not even Asian. It's hard to find resources in my native language or English.

As a native Chinese speaker I find out that English is even more harder.Envy to people who can speak such fluent English

@@NpcFR01 well as a pure blood Chinese who’s *not at all* fluent at my own native language, I envy those who can fully speak it 😭 (you can imagine how it’s sometimes hell visiting all my relatives) makes me sometimes wonder a world where my angkong (grandpa) hadn’t moved out of China cus then I would *definitely* be fluent in that language and *probably* know some English cus it’s the other most well spoken language in the world 🤔🤷‍♀️ But then again… if my grandpa hadn’t migrated out of China… I wouldn’t exist cus my grandma came from the country my grandpa moved to LMAO- 😂😭

@@NpcFR01 but hey! Judging by your comment your English is great! Keep up the good work!

In Taiwan people probably wouldn't bat an eye, and given the context of the sentence they would know it's "fever" but in Mainland China I bet you might get a "huh?" confused or embarrassed reaction.

@@jspihlman I’m from Taiwan and I’ve never heard anyone said 發騷through my whole life. Some fun phenomenon I noticed about the retroflex 捲舌音: since we don’t roll our tongue as much as mainlanders, people start to make the non-retroflex sound more obvious by making a crazy aspirations between our teeth.

@@jspihlman Nope, pronouncing sh as s is a common southern Chinese mandarin accent, only recently has it become less mixed. People from mainland (even Northerners) won't get confused just because of one little change in sound.

Yeah I’ve noticed a lot of Taiwanese people tend to pronounce shi > si and etc, that’s probably why they got it mixed up lol. I also (as someone who did not grow up in China and learned it from my family) get pinyin mixed up with words that sound familiar (like yin/ying and stuff)

@@Imperator_27 NOPE. You're totally wrong too. As a Malaysian who is etnically Chinese of Hokkien decent and living in a local Cantonese majority community, I can tell you that we southern Chinese still pronounce the sh sound in sh, but just pronounce it in a very different way from the Northerners. The h of sh in Southern accent is pronouncing the h as a sound that similar to the h in the words like Mechanic, Headache, Character, Chloe, Christ etc. or h in other European Languages such as the h in Рахма́нинов (/Rachmaninoff, the English translation), Bach (a German surname) , Koch(also a German surname), Čech (/Czech, the English translation). Whereas, the Northern Chinese pronounce the h in sh in a way more similar to the h in the words ship, shadow, sheep, show, shake etc.. It's hard to someone who is not familiar with the Chinese languages or even it's hard for a native speaker of both Northern and Southern to identify or differentiate the actual pronounciation. If you try to replace the ch with c in the words containing ch that I mentioned before you can know the difference. On the other way round, you can also try to replace the c with ch(which I mentioned) in the words like decade, carrot, car, cane, caviar, camp etc. and try to notice the difference. Moreover, you can also try to replace the k with ch like the words kite, kitty, killer, kind, kettle, kangaroo etc. You can tell the difference after keep doing the experiments I said.

Yes they do.

Yesss I live them! It's so nice to hear them speak or even sing in Chinese ❤️❤️❤️

Haha, I can tell from your name 😆

@@ChinesewithJessie and my profile pic. LOL. I can't help it🤣💀

Yeah XD french has this word but we don't use it anymore, I think that only elders use it now. I mean, teenagers rarely use it but they would still understand 😅

@@shikadaikobutsu3414 Ah... well... I guess I just gave away my age then... 😅😅😅

@@jdfromparis6230 No XD don't worry, your age is still well unknown 😂😅

Something similar in English would be "you are a cow" which means that the person, usually female, being called a cow is mean or rude. 😆

In Brazilian Portuguese calling a woman a "cow" (vaca) is very offensive, sth like slut or shameless. We also have expressions like "cow's hand" (mão de vaca), that means a cheapskate person.

same!

I have been learning on Duolingo for two and a half months.

To be honest it doesn’t sound natural to me. It sounds too academic or formal, seems like you are writing an assay

Jimmy speaks perfectly both Cantonese and mandarin, and despite he is originated from hk, which is a contonese-speaking area, he speaks mandarin without an accent.

​@@petercui5464 my impression is Jimmy's Mom speaks Mandarin

@@HiCy2012 你是不是中国人哈哈哈哈，中国人会说：我的印象里是...但是外国人不这么说话，所以不会说my impression is...

@@petercui5464 😂😂

Actually she did Jimmy already, with Silicon valley's name

They speak* You made this mistake more than once. I speak You speak He speaks She speaks It speaks You speak They speak

進步 definitely is preferred in Taiwanese Chinese, I second that.

Uh, no. She was pointing out a grammatical error, not an issue with word choice. 進步 is an intransitive verb (不及物動詞) and cannot take an object regardless of which variety of Mandarin you are speaking. Nobody say 進步中文. While it's true that a native speaker from Taiwan would almost always say 讓國語進步 or 改善國語 instead of 提高中文水平, the latter is still correct and can be understood perfectly fine. Just because it's not locally preferred does not make it wrong.

?? why are you trying to mislead people thinking that the mainland mandarin is completely different? for context, mainland uses 你的XXX有进步/张进 all these terms are interchangeable much like the english language where you have adjectives. 提高水平 translate to improveXX. i know that taiwan uses some really outdated slangs like 白痴 where is so 90s.

Haha really? I've never heard of that. Where are you from?

@@ChinesewithJessie I'm from Taiwan. 嘴 isn't formal tho😅 Sorry I thought it's used commonly in most place because I've seen people from China or Hong Kong use it

Actually the meaning of 被嘴 is kind of more negative. It is more like "be chastised". While 吐槽 is neutral. And 被嘴 can be explained as "be kissed" in some northern dialects.

I’m from Taiwan and we use it a lot😂😂

I think 發騷 is less used in Taiwan lol

@@edwardr6776 that's true

還是有差啦 騷的ㄙ還是會明顯一點

@@kumoki1215 很些微，有些人甚至分不出來

臺灣人就算把發燒說成發ㄙㄠ，也不會有人想成是發騷的意思，因為臺灣根本沒人在用發騷這個字🤣

I've started to learn Chinese recently. Best app I've found is LingoDeer. Strongly recommend it.

@@leppavlad-2 thanks, I'll check it out!

其實在大陸也都是這樣用的，中文口語上這些東西可能不太講究啦

不是啦 她是在说“进步国语”这样用不对，“国语有进步“是对的。