How GOOD Was David Robinson Actually? 

They let him score

@@VictorHernandez-ot9dy no they didnt. Go watch the game.

They rarely talk about David Robinsons 71 points lol thats odd

Well, his team made a great effort for him to make sure Shaq didn't win the scoring title

That's amazing!

Being that swole on a 7'1" frame is mental

Bailey Jordan did it all in the same season and more. He’s still the great Center I would have wanted to play with MJ

Panasony MicroOled Mj wasn't a center

Scoot Master Robinson is still the great Center I would have wanted to play with MJ

Panasony MicroOled but but but MJ wasn’t a center 😭

Mason Rudolph’s Bae DAVID ROBINSONNN

Err0r declining autographs does not make you a bad person.

@Err0r look a lot of people claimed when meeting Admiral he was very nice also he served in the navy doesnt that count something the guy might have declined an autograph but the guy did more good things than bad things

Err0r all players or celebrity does that you can’t sign every autographs 🤦🏾‍♂️

Err0r just shut the fuck up please

@Err0r you're only answer is he didnt sign autographs blah blah blah it doesnt matter because even if he denied signing autographs, doesnt mean hes mean personally

Tanner Rienbolt Hakeem raped him thts why

I think the video clearly explained why....

Baller Doge not really. If anything this video showed that he should be talked about more, he’s a former leave mvp and two time champ, not to mention one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time.

@@bigpanda2000 Yeah I agree that he should be talked about more. I'm sure the video backs that up. I was replying to "why no one talks about the Admiral" though and that's because he's overshadowed by the other greats of that time that saw more playoff success.

It’s because he’s a spur they never get the credit they should

Blocks aren't automatically an indication of a good defender.

It must've been the years that Olajuwon was avg 4.6b, 2.2s and 14r(10 defensive), because in today's league 3.9b a game gets you a unanimous dpoy

Despair 2nd Team all defense. Third Team all nba you mixed them up

@@Chocolouf LMAO... If you block 4 shots per game, think about how many shots that you alter... Thats a huge impact on the game

Armando De Los Santos not true. Hassan Whiteside got 3.7 blocks a game in 2016 and didn’t get DPoY or even all defensive first team.

YES

Yessir

same here, before David I was rooting for Magic for 1-2 years, just because every else love MJ.

Fully agreed with your point

No

The intro melody is wonderful.

All of the music he uses is awesome. It honestly separates his channel from the rest.

Yea for his position

The Admiral is a great person who happens to be a NBA legend. He is a great role model

Jason no dude, in the end none of that matters. The real world isn’t a damn basketball game.

He's a man of God. Very good person

@Jason what a dick of a person you are

@Jason well he's the opposite of you lol

2 time nba champion

Top five

@@DiabloBiscuit top five is a bit much

@@DiabloBiscuit that’s a stretch, not top 5 but definitely top 10

I'm glad that I grew up in the 90s. Watching him play was amazing. I will never forget the night they one their first title. Downtown was the most packed I had ever seen. Cars for miles! Now he is just being a great leader in the greater San Antonio community with the Carver Academy's.

Someone did a vid on your topic of interest

Cold cold World His injury’s has nothing to do with how bad he played it was more of a mental issue

It was never a debate deron williams was good but nobody with eyes thought he was better than jason kidd (00-04 ) steve nash (04-08)chris paul (08-11) or d rose and he wasn't better than westbrook or curry after that he was at best a top 5 pg from 08 to 10 but that's it

jay pullum don’t disrespect him like that He def was a top 2 pg him and cp3 was argued as the best during that time on the jazz

@@VonJaye he wasn't better than nash or tony parker from 06-10 i dont even think he was better than baron davis at his peak daron williams was a above avg pg the kyle lowry of his day

and yore not jealous of Houston's Texas dominance?

Yep. Suns, Trailblazers, Supersonics, Jazz, Rockets, Lakers (from '97 onwards), getting to the NBA Finals from the Western Conference meant you pretty much had to beat two championship-calibre teams just to make it to the Finals, and then you still had to face the Bulls 6 out of those 10 seasons lol.

@@drlight6677 When you look at all those Western teams, every one of them at least reached the finals and several pushed the Bull hard there, or won a championship, with their core personnel of the era. Basically they all would've won championships if not for Michael Jordan, and lots of great players went home empty. Fortunately Robinson got to enjoy a couple of rings himself once Poppovich and Duncan arrived and the Spurs really gelled as a team.

@@ja8ames Fortunately for Robinson too the Bulls disbanded after '98 when he finally won in '99 against a mediocre Knicks team that was easily the worst team to make the Finals that decade.

@@drlight6677 they probably couldve beat the Bulls so don't put a damper on what they achieved in 99. TD was a better PF than Karl Malone at both ends.

He had good help considering the era. Most teams back then had 1-2 stars. The Admiral had Cummings, Sean Elliot, Rod Strickland and Avery Johnson to name a few. Not the best help but comparing to Ewing, Drexler, Hakeem, Shaq and Barkley it's similar.

@Death Trooper if Duncan gets that one, than Olajuwon should have two quad dubs!

he did it in the finals doe @@armandodelossantos736

@@razkable against who?

@@razkable a 6'9 Kenyon Martin and a 6'9 Aaron Williams?! I wonder if Olajuwon would've avg a quadruple double on them two in the Finals

@Death Trooper you mean LeBron's last 3 years of basketball?

This would be an interesting video

Denis Tuohy yah good one,

Yes.

Varson 188 Alonzo Mourning was really damn good. But sadly his health was destroyed by a kidney disease in his prime.

No where as good as David Robinson

More to the point, is one playoff series an entire career? Of course not. Including the playoffs, this is what happened between these two players throughout their head-to-head careers: 48 games played, Robinson's team 32 wins, Olajuwon's team 16 wins ROBINSON 38.1 MPG, .554 TS% (48.3 FG%, 72.6 FT%), 20.1 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 2.9 APG, 3.2 BPG, 2.1 SPG, 3.2 TOPG, 3.5 FOULS OLAJUWON 38.4 MPG, .506 TS% (45.7 FG%, 77.8 FT%), 23.6 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 3.1 APG, 3.5 BPG, 1.8 SPG, 3.2 TOPG, 4.1 FOULS Aside from shooting (Robinson's big advantage) and scoring (Olajuwon's big advantage) every other statistical category is pretty much a dead heat. Olajuwon has a +0.3 in minutes, rebounds, and blocks and a +0.2 in assists. Robinson has a +0.3 in steals and a 0.6 in fouls committed, although defensive fouls aren't necessarily very detrimental. They can be if the team is in the penalty, resulting in free throws, but the fouls committed aren't itemized. There are some stipulations about the careers of both men to be aware of: 1) Basically, when it comes to David Robinson's career, there was the eight seasons (really seven) before Duncan, then the last six with him. Obviously, that meant fewer shot attempts with Duncan than before, especially in those final two seasons. On the plus side, Duncan (and Gregg Popovich running the show) meant more opportunities to win than before 2) When Olajuwon and Robinson met up for those 1995 Western Conference Finals, it was the first WCF in Robinson's six NBA seasons. For Olajuwon, 1995 was his eleventh season, second straight WCF and third overall, including two Finals appearances. A fair-minded person would have to concede that there is an advantage in having reached those heights before versus someone making their first trip. For that matter, 1995 was the first season the Spurs had ever won two playoff series in a single playoff before. (They'd been to the CF in the past, but back then teams didn't need to win two playoff series to do it) 3) One might be tempted to say, "Well, yes, Robinson's teams won more of the matchups, but that was because of the years with Duncan and Popovich" For the record, with Duncan on the floor and Popovich on the bench, Robinson won the matchup with Olajuwon all ten times they played. And if you want to count their one matchup in Popovich's first year coaching the Spurs (that was Duncan's last year at Wake Forest), you can. Robinson still has a 21-16 wins advantage all told, and this is counting the playoffs. 4) In a lot of ways, Robinson and Olajuwon had extremely similar careers. Their first coach was a Hall of Famer who won a championship elsewhere (Larry Brown for Robinson, Bill Fitch for Olajuwon), and their second coach had previously played for the club (John Lucas for Robinson, Don Chaney for Olajuwon). Both centers ended up winning two championships paired with coaches bearing family roots in the former Yugoslavia (Gregg Popovich for Robinson, Rudy Tomjanovich for Olajuwon). Time to look at their head-to-head numbers before Duncan and Popovich arrived.

And now we examine the head-to-head careers of David Robinson versus Hakeem Olajuwon...minus the Tim Duncan years...BUT, we're including the one playoff series David and Hakeem played together. This is before Gregg Popovich for Robinson, but Olajuwon is playing under his best coach. I have slanted this about as far in Hakeem's direction as I could short of just presenting the 1995 WCF stats only. First, the record: Robinson 21 wins, Olajuwon 16 wins. Now, the stats: ROBINSON 40.2 MPG, .546 TS% (47.5 FG%, 73.4 FT%), 21.8 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 3.3 APG, 3.7 BPG, 2.1 SPG, 3.5 TOPG, 3.5 FOULS OLAJUWON 39.9 MPG, .501 TS% (45.1 FG%, 79.6 FT%), 24.9 PPG, 12.2 RPG, 3.2 APG, 3.6 BPG, 2.0 SPG, 3.1 TOPG, 4.4 FOULS I mean, if you're looking at all this and still thinking Olajuwon is clearly better I don't know what to say. What evidence are you clinging to at this point?

@@srj34 At the end of the day, Olajuwon generally elevated his level of play in the playoffs in his career. Robinson was not able to play at the level of his regular season come playoffs. It was actually the 94 playoffs that showed who was the better Center....not the 95 WCF meeting. The Rockets roster that year wasnt anymore or less talented than the Spurs roster. Robinson really struggled vs Utah and took a huge dip (vs his regular season averages) in the opening round. Olajuwon absolutely dominated individually vs Utah. Robinson was a great Center, unfortunately his Achilles heel offensively is he never developed a real back to the basket game. It was more easier for defenses to scheme against him in the playoffs than Hakeem who was equally adept posting up or facing the basket and gave opponents a bit more to think about.

@@FuShengAlex I don't deny that Robinson never developed his offensive game much beyond plays that played to his athletic advantages. I don't deny that Olajuwon was a great playoff performer, better than Robinson or, for that matter, most players. I have no problem if someone wants to put Olajuwon ahead of Robinson on those bases. What I do object to is the idea that Olajuwon was clearly and obviously a greater player than David Robinson when the preponderance of the evidence doesn't jibe with that premise. ***I need to be crystal clear, my previous posts are aimed at those who make that argument - I'm not sure you're making that particular argument here*** What's interesting is to explore what you did, shifting the argument from one playoff series (95 WCF) to two others (1994 round one, 1994 WCF). And what's interesting is this: you're correct, the Spurs and Rockets were pretty close in talent in 1994 - but the crucial distinction between the two is in the frontcourt. Dennis Rodman is in the HOF, and Otis Thorpe is not. Thorpe has a non-zero chance of making the HOF (BBRef's HOF monitor puts at 0.6%, but there are only 67 NBA players with more Win Shares. That's pretty good.) Thorpe was nothing like Rodman (nobody really was) in that Thorpe's value was on offense, not defense. Now, Thorpe didn't exactly tear it up against the Jazz, but just having him on the floor for 35 minutes a game with Olajuwon is enough to keep the defense honest. Who else in the frontcourt, besides Robinson, did the Spurs offense present problems to? Terry Cummings had injured his knee two years prior and was never the same. JR Reid was a decent role-player, but not close to what Cummings had been and Thorpe was. Antoine Carr had taken a big step down from his first two years in San Antonio. Dale Ellis was a perimeter player. Facing Olajuwon and Thorpe was a lot bigger problem for the Jazz interior defense than Robinson and Rodman. The problem I see here with your arguments is that this narrative exists about the careers of Robinson and Olajuwon and you seem keen on maintaining that narrative, and your refusal to address any counter evidence (the phrase "At the end of the day" is a classic dodge in that regard) or dig deeper makes it clear to me that you're not especially interested in challenging that conventional wisdom. Maybe I'm wrong, and if I am please point out how.

@@srj34 well basically I only stated Olajuwon was clearly superior to Robinson based on his playoff performances moreso than their h2h meetings. To say he was FAR above Robinson as a C is hyperbole, especially before the WCF meeting. In fact Robinson's pre Duncan Spurs tended to have better records in the regular season than Hakeems Rockets. I think Hakeem was a slightly better than Robinson prior to winning the title in 94. His resume as a player was 'slightly' better than Robinson's. He'd already led the Rockets to the Finals in only his 2nd season. Now obviously David didnt have anyone as good as pre injury Sampson, but nevertheless Hakeem was shining above peak Showtime with Magic Johnson who (alongside Bird) was the face of the 80s. I highly doubt Robinson couldve had the series Hakeem had (31/11/4 blks 2 stls) alongside Sampson vs a team that great. Now 94. Again I dont think the Rockets were any more talented of a team than the Spurs that year. Vernon, Hakeems 2nd best option shot only 37% for the entire playoffs.....easily the worst 2nd option on any title team in history. Rodman was a flat out better PF than Thorpe and arguably the GOAT rebounder. The problem vs Utah in addition to the supporting cast you mentioned was Robinson had trouble with the physicality of Karl Malone and it threw him off of his game. And it was the same the previous year with Barkley. They were flat out nasty and he didnt match their level of intensity. Hakeem on the other hand wasn't thrown off his game by either. The Rockets had much better 3 pt shooting than the Spurs, but it only worked because Hakeem could post up, play back to the basket and pass out from the paint whereas Robinson with his limitations was forced to hang out on the perimeter shooting jumpers when he couldnt blow past people. I do think very highly of David Robinson, for most nights in the early 90s he and Hakeem were carrying a heavier load for their teams at both ends than anyone else in the NBA Many would call me stupid for this but I would take him over Wilt Chamberlain (another story) amongst Centers who is generally ranked above him and even the GOAT C and player.

Thank you that’s what I was sauinu

Being regarded as top 8 center of all time is in my books not being underrated. Those guys are all absolute legends. Due to Robinsons' lack of postseason success in his prime it would be hard to place him in the top 5 but it's possible.

Imagine if Tim Duncan and DRob traded places? We’d be talking about how under appreciated Tim was instead of DRob. My point is that Duncan was put in a better situation, playing on a veteran team with an established Superstar in DRob. There was an expectation for sure but the pressure was not on him. I’m a huge fan of both players. Wish they played their entire career together.

Your vids are pretty good bro KEEP GRINDING

I seen your videos you're going to blow up u earned a new sub

Yo dude you're the black Korzemba😂 keep grinding fam

I would add Arvydas Sabonis and Divac.

So basically 5 of the Top 10 centers in the 90s???

@@MSotelo503 how are you gonna say that who he admired as a kid is wrong?

António Moreira he didn’t say that he just said that in his lost he would add Sabonis and divac

My favorite was Kwame Brown. It was fun watching him play like shit lol

It also puts a lot of pressure

@@ImKarl And? Pressure crafts a Diamond

@@MrKennyWilliams It also crushes confidence if they are being outplayed.

@@ImKarl adapt or perish? Honestly its why the Timberwolves faulted. They got paid too much too fast, and when they were expected to meet those expectations they cracked. Pressure now, and you don't have to waste your potential later

What did you smoke and where can I get some?

David Robinson has one of the nicest personality in the NBA. I think that is also what is holding him back. All great champions has at least a little bit of "a dick" personality. Ego, pushing team mates hard, harassing opposing players, because of their competitive nature. David does not do that because he is a nice guy.

Exactly 💯 💯 💯 💯

Big facts The Admiral was a Top 5-7 Center of all time easily

Easily top 10

I put him as 7th myself, under Kareem, Russell, Hakeem, Shaq, Wilt and Moses.

Hard to say, but i'd say he's one of the top 5-7 centers of all time. just so many great big men to choose from back then.

I grew up in SA in the 90s and remember reading his autobiography when I was young. He is one of my heroes!

Rumor has it he was a total jerk to fans and he got destroyed by the dream I was there it was brutal

@Tod Wilkinson You obviously weren't around in 06-07 then. The sentiment back then by a lot of people was that he was the next great big man at the level of Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, Duncan

Fact's, in Today's game they would have kept him at Guard He'd be Ben Simmons

Jaja

No kidding!!

He was a beast

hes my uncle favorite player

How good was Vernon Maxwell

I'm a David Robinson fan but when Olajuwon gave him that work it did hurt is legacy a lil bit..

Hakeem played mad that entire series. He knew he was snubbed on the League MVP trophy.

It just pisses me off they only played one playoff series against each other. Magic and Bird were in different conferences and faced off three times.

If he would have won a championship in his prime on top of the two with duncan he would probably be looked at as a better player than hakeem, ewing, and a lot of other centers. A players legacy can often come down to a single series.

How do you get "exposed" by the greatest center that ever lived?????? Olajuwon was simply the best player in the league not named Jordan.

I hate how nobody talks about Olajuwon dominating 4 of the all time top 10 centers in the WCF and Finals! Kareem with showtime Lakers 31p12r,4b, Ewing 27p,9r,4b, Robinson 37p,12r,5b, Shaq 33p,11r,4b! That's my #2, #5, #6, #9 best centers of all time

@@armandodelossantos736 Hakeem should be a top 10 player ever witthout a doubt.

Bruno .Doinel he’s number 4 on my list but that’s just imo.

@@armandodelossantos736 and he was alone i think he only played one all star from 1987 to 1996 and it was maxwell 1992

@@mustafeasad9377 nope Maxwell never made an all star team. Otis Thorpe was a reserve all star in 92' tho

Not even a good compsrison

Dream destroyed him and rodman at the same time no contest

hakeem sampson?...….

@@razkable they weren't together long enough and didn't win a championship

Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins 🤔

Still Tippin at

Still Tippin They aint even play a whole season soooo

Bruh he MADE Duncan into a superstar

Zobby Car tf are you talking about, robinson did not turn tim duncan into a superstar, tim himself along with pop is what made him a superstar.

#1 RU-vid Fan you can’t say that having Robinson for a few years didn’t help Duncan develop.

Big Panda the admiral definitely helped with TD's development but he certainly was NOT the main reason the latter became a superstar.

I'd argue the opposite. I think that Duncan and pops legacy is so great that it's diminished David's legacy.

Meandro Vito Luz No, he didn’t. He beat the Knicks in 94 and the Magic in 95. In 1999, Shaq’s Lakers beat the Rockets in their only other series.

Meandro Vito Luz Yeah, I think he and Pippen we’re both there.

Meandro Vito Luz Just checked the stats... wow, Barkley was very relevant, including 30pts and 23rebs in their only win. 23.5 & 14 for the series.

Exactly no one else on offense after his rookie year was consistent enough he never had a true number 2.

I don't think the PG position that SA surrounded DRob with is talked about enough. SA was too quick to jettison Strickland then using Avery Johnson and to a lesser extent Vinny Del Negro as his PG didn't do him any favors.

When u play in the era of Mutombo and Hakeem thats what happens

Hakeem had more blocks

he was seriously outstanding but when you have to compete with hakeem and other absolutely incredible big men even robinson could get overshadowed. doesnt take away from the fact that he was amazing from the second he stepped into the nba.

@@Cynsham from 1992-96 .....the greatest era of prime franchise HOF C play. 5 different Centers were averaging at least 20/10 a night for 4 straight seasons. In 1994 and 1995....those are the only seasons in NBA history where the top 3 regular season scorers were Centers. That will NEVER happen again.....I have a better chance of winning the national Lotto Max lottery than that happening again.

@@robotube7361 And Ewing and Mark Eaton. Defensive centers in the 80's and 90's were no joke

I got a vid on that if you want to see

@@YounGala thanks

2a Iceman 2b Admiral

Kawhi

The Twin Towers!!!!

K' Kawhi wasn’t as great on the spurs as people try to make him out to be

Moses Nyirongo he the reason the spurs won a ring in 2014

I'm slightly too young to remember; I'll have to look this one up.

I remember watching that on cbs..game 7 vs Portland. But to be fair that was like Strickland's real first playoff experience.