How GOOD was EVERY Starter ACTUALLY? - Starter Pokemon Tier List - Singles

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We ranked EVERY Starter's final evolution based on the tiers they have been over the past 9 generations!
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@TheNuts1225 6 месяцев назад

As a meganium fan, I can honestly tell you I saw that placement from a mile away. Meganium will get its day sooner or later.

@MrDeflador 6 месяцев назад

Call it Mr. Stake and it cant be killed in a nuzlock

@isaacthered 6 месяцев назад

Chikorita is pretty good in Mystery Dungeon at least.

@vaporterra 6 месяцев назад

This won’t stop us from using Meganium in game while building a strong team to support

@CursedGaming31 6 месяцев назад

It got Knock off, Trailblaze, Solar Blade, Zen Headbutt, Body Press, Grassy Glide, Encore and Endeavor in the DLC now. Won't mend it's stats but movepool-Wise it's much, much better now. It has Swords Dance already, maybe it's not as garbage in lower tiers now.

@nolanevans7603 6 месяцев назад

In the fanfare Radical Red its great, with an ability giving priority to healing moves like giga Drain and the Fairy typing

@matthewesposito6973 6 месяцев назад

If this was on doubles, incineroar would need its own tier

@stylevstar253 6 месяцев назад

Video*

@theschnozzler 6 месяцев назад

@@stylevstar253*feature-length film

@unaffectedbycardeffects9152 6 месяцев назад

@@theschnozzler *12 40 min long episodes series

@MidoseitoAkage 6 месяцев назад

The VGC westling cat tier

@Lakanus 6 месяцев назад

two tiers above any other starter

@dork4202 6 месяцев назад

My personal buff for meganium would be to change it to a fire fighting type, give it the speed boost ability, and change its name to Blaziken

@zkdelta8014 5 месяцев назад

Cool, now you got a Blaziken with Meganium's move pool.

@mgeezylaslo7054 5 месяцев назад

no just switch its special defense stat with its HP and give meganium spore, sleep powder or thunder wave

@dork4202 5 месяцев назад

"Cool, now you got a blaziken with meganium's movepool"-🤓@@zkdelta8014

@saikatkar4452 4 месяца назад

After years of ridicule, Meganium just needs a broken Hidden Ability or Signature move that turns things around for it. There's still a lot of broken Pokemon after 9 generations. I wouldn't mind them buffing Meganium to an extreme extent. Mons like Pidgeot and Meganium look so cool but are so insanely average that it's almost disheartening.

@Quentinthemudkip 3 месяца назад

@@saikatkar4452I feel you, I’m a typhlosion fan😅

@bluebaron6811 6 месяцев назад

Guys, Incineroar gained Helping Hand in Gen 9. Doubles is just as dead as Singles.

@sephiross6438 6 месяцев назад

Oh no..

@General_C 6 месяцев назад

ALOLA PRIDE BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

@ddraven3180 6 месяцев назад

Hahaha yes, anything to make people rage even further. Heel cat gonna drink them tears and keep on trucking in VGC

@Kuesoth 6 месяцев назад

HELL YEAH!!!

@DoinkDeetus 6 месяцев назад

LMAO

@amateraceon5202 6 месяцев назад

Typhlosion is an incredible cleaner who gets to spam Eruption and even got a new Hisuian form Feraligatr presses Swords Dance once and destroys everything with Sheer Force Liquidation, second only to Crawdaunt as a physical Water destroyer And Meganium… was on the box art of New Pokémon Snap

@bomoose 6 месяцев назад

game freak hate meganium, he's also the best starter in hgss nuzlockes

@ravinercf 6 месяцев назад

@@bomoose tô make the game harder right? I love the guy but it's matchs up into the major fights is by far the worst match up spread a starter has had in any main line pokemon game. Grass is so bad in gen 2 it is just sad

@potatoman2580 6 месяцев назад

@bomoose most incorrect thing ever stated, meganuim is garbage every time it appears in the series

@DiabloTommaso 6 месяцев назад

It has dat! Been in a cover is Nice 😂

@hanscaniagochan8448 6 месяцев назад

@@bomoosethe only thing it has going is being good at post game IN pokemon Mystery dungeon game so there's that

@donkassadin2014 6 месяцев назад

Never forget the leader of an entire archetype of starters. Blaziken we salute you.

@iss2075 6 месяцев назад

Infernape (and then Speed Boost) was basically Game Freak going "Man, we should have given Blaziken a higher speed". I still don't know what they were thinking with Emboar. Everybody was so shocked when we found out about it.

@h0m3st4r 6 месяцев назад

Uber tier starters?

@mimmikyute 6 месяцев назад

It was the first fire/fighting 😂

@cristhianmlr 6 месяцев назад

I don't. So many people thought it was an insta win PKMN they didn't knew how to use it properly and barely did any damage despite being an "Uber" threat.

@88porpoise 6 месяцев назад

@@iss2075The fire-fighting starters were almost certainly about the first gyms always being Rock type. Charmander was given metal claw in FR/LG for a similar reason. And for Gen V specifically, I would wager a lot of money that the team designing the pokemon were assuming the rock gym when Emboar was designed.

@jacksonparker6983 6 месяцев назад

Let the record show that Skeledirge is currently in OU again!

@banriswirl6414 6 месяцев назад

Skeledirge is easily A tier in a future version of this video and likely S tier.

@tyim5593 6 месяцев назад

Skeledirge is definetely one of the most interesting starters, because it was a top 10 ubers pokemon while sitting in a UU tier@@banriswirl6414

@tytar2132 6 месяцев назад

@@banriswirl6414bro top 10 Ubers

@mimmikyute 6 месяцев назад

I didn’t know he was that good until this video! I knew it was in Ubers but damn! I don’t even have a switch to play gen 9 on and Dirge is becoming one of my favourite starters; killer design both looks and mechanics!

@jacksonparker6983 6 месяцев назад

@@mimmikyute dirge also just got some great fairy coverage and scorching sands with the new dlc!

@vicctretamaj7289 6 месяцев назад

I know Incineroar ain’t gonna be at the top since this is singles focused, but I expect a full video to go into is VGC dominance one day🔥

@mimmikyute 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been mostly following doubles and vgc lately so even though I was expecting Roar’s placement here it still somehow surprised me :P

@angle2703 6 месяцев назад

Incineroar in singles: Normal Pokémon in NU, even moved up to PU. Incineroar in doubles: Has won every format they’ve been allowed in, insane usage numbers. Arguably the best VGC Pokémon ever. Incineroar is like the US military of doubles

@sebarsht12 6 месяцев назад

I predict a VGC version of this video may have for S-rank Incinaroar; Rilaboom and Charizard

@vicctretamaj7289 6 месяцев назад

@@sebarsht12 Zard is prob A tier

@TalkingVidya 6 месяцев назад

@@angle2703 Like, he was number 1 in usage in a generation with legal Zacian!

@RealBeastBoy007 6 месяцев назад

Alright guys lets remember, +1 on 103 base special attack and 122 speed is shockingly broken with insane STAB types and life orb

@SJtheMFZB 6 месяцев назад

And Hisui-Eye gets the upperhand in the lower tiers against Krook, Wo-Chien, and, uh, Tyranitar, which even gets Knock Off now. 😅 (If you think I'm fucking about on this one, just look at the OU list. Great Tusk, IVal, Ting-Lu and friends with zero Pursuit. He's become shockingly adept at inviting the opponent to win, so now he's a feather in the cap of E-tiers among E-tiers. :/)

@RealBeastBoy007 6 месяцев назад

@@SJtheMFZB Gen 9 competitive is interesting but in all the wrong ways

@1peidu 6 месяцев назад

and it's still markedly worse than Agren since +1 103 with a life orb is barely stronger than specs 153

@insertnamehere658 6 месяцев назад

@@1peidu if it's strong enough to stay in teal mask ou, it's still doing something right.

@1peidu 6 месяцев назад

@@insertnamehere658 Agren would end up banned instead of just staying in OU mate, since iirc reg gren is mostly used as a cleaner on rain. Agren can use rain cleaner sets but in Gen 9 if it wanted to it could SD Tera electric and smoke its usual checks. People forget this is as strong as Lando T. Reg gren can't pull that off even with battle bond.

@rubiconprime1429 6 месяцев назад

Gotta love how from Gen 4 to 5 Blaziken when from worse infernape to better infernape

@laxusstrauss5945 6 месяцев назад

I mean that was just due to speed boost if it didn't get that ability the powercreep would have dropped it to mid tier RU

@rubiconprime1429 6 месяцев назад

@@laxusstrauss5945 yep, but the point still stands

@Alastordadeer 5 месяцев назад

@@rubiconprime1429yeah until it’s mega came in

@NightmareZerogbs 4 месяца назад

Better STARTER, period xD

@Tungdil_01 3 месяца назад

@@NightmareZerogbs until Cinderace appears :(

@GoldStorm07 6 месяцев назад

The other week I was imagining if Hyper Beam retained its Gen 1 mechanics and as a result, the elemental variants exclusive to the starters would have been scary competitive options. There's a hint of that alternate timeline in Eruption Typhlosion.

@TheWizardMus 6 месяцев назад

Picturing Sub Sunny Day Peteya Berry Blast Burn Charizard being able to keep pushing the button after OHKOing Swampert

@Eroil 6 месяцев назад

Bkc (writer for this channel) actually made a video about it if you're interested

@theserpent8667 6 месяцев назад

@@TheWizardMusNow that's a cool scenario. Why do I imagine Alain doing this?

@TheWizardMus 6 месяцев назад

@@theserpent8667 it happened it Jimothy Cool's Gen 3 OU ADV Revival tournament and it was so cool

@Skullhawk13 6 месяцев назад

It really should work that way. Otherwise why use it at all

@njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 месяцев назад

So glad my boy Serperior is in A tier. Spamming contrary leaf storm is so much fun

@Charleyyy678 6 месяцев назад

Agreed

@joonas394 5 месяцев назад

After whole Gen 8 absence, Serperior returned stronger than ever with Stellar Contrary Tera Blast

@netweed09 5 месяцев назад

Really wish he had Draco Meteor too as a bona-fide special Move Tutor. He does look a _bit_ like a Dragon, like a Grassy Dragonair.

@Alastordadeer 5 месяцев назад

It’s also a good sub leech seed user

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

@aetius254 6 месяцев назад

I'm just glad that my boy Sceptile got to C tier, and I'm pretty sure everybody saw Meganium's placement coming a mile away

@jjgriffiniv1307 5 месяцев назад

My boy Sceptile deserves at least B, boy is a dragon type too she. In mega form!

@InsaneGarrison25 5 месяцев назад

@@jjgriffiniv1307 The problem is that it’s a mega. Mega Sceptile would be incredible if it could use held items and learn Draco Meteor but it unfortunately can’t

@Charleyyy678 4 месяца назад

I don’t really care that much about Sceptile, but I do like Meganium

@Malisteen 6 месяцев назад

seeing clips from various gens back to back really highlights how much better the sprites of g4 and g5 were than the 3d stuff we've been stuck with ever since.

@soulthesassyassassin3616 6 месяцев назад

Gen 5 especially. God, those animated sprites were just gorgeous.

@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 Месяц назад

Oras had the best ones wym

@GWFanSoftcoreBrony 6 месяцев назад

Poor Meganium. It looks like they at least gave it Body Press as something interesting but as far as I can tell so far, the only way it can raise its defense is with Curse or an uncommon random boost from Ancient Power.

@Cobalt957 6 месяцев назад

It also has knock off so it can also force progress which is a pretty nice thing to have

@benjaminh.5690 6 месяцев назад

Encore is another funny move it got. That plus Tera Fighting Body Press make it a (really bad) check to Kingambit. I wish my baby had gotten a new HA as well but it didn’t.

@Origin-vb4iu 6 месяцев назад

@@Cobalt957 nice thing to have if u live a hit , yeah not happening with that miserable speed stat and grass typing..

@maxf_03 6 месяцев назад

Eviolite Bayleef is surprisingly tanky. With the 50% boost it has 120 base in both defences and it has an okay base 60hp. It can stall pretty well with leech seed, protect and synthesis. Plus you can catch alot of super effective hits off guard now with tera rock.

@netweed09 5 месяцев назад

Fella, some Pokémon are just never meant for the Fight. Leave it be and let it continue with World Pollination.

@paopaothesiopao995 6 месяцев назад

Mudkip was the Pokemon I picked in the my first Pokemon game (Ruby Version). I’m glad to see Swampert placed high on the list. I’ve always loved how reliable it is.

@dramaticScar 6 месяцев назад

Swear… I tested this… but it’s the only Hoenn Starter to make gen 3 battle frontier a bit easier

@RandomHans 6 месяцев назад

@@dramaticScar one weakness, high bulk, amazing offensive typings go brrrrr

@mvjbass9561 6 месяцев назад

I know it's not official, but I feel like Mega-Blastoise being banned in Gen 9 NatDex should be mentioned. It's a shame that it gained Shell Smash as it lost its Mega.

@aquinoima 6 месяцев назад

Free my boy Blastoise

@Forged4War206 5 месяцев назад

It's not just an unofficial tier, it's a make believe meta that only can exist on simulations. Smogon OU singles and even all of the lower unofficial tiers like ZU or UUbers can be replicated in the actual games themselves, you can't do that at all with NatDex, because certain moves no longer exist, Pokemon are missing, AND multiple different generational mechanics are allowed. It's about as real as Almost Any Ability, STABmons, or any of the other OMs that exist on Smogon, which is why it's not worth mentioning when talking strictly official formats.

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

We don't use a hyphen between the word mega and the Pokemon's name.

@TheForgidbearbackers 3 месяца назад

good news, he's coming back officially.

@c-8164 3 месяца назад

@@Forged4War206 not really , its basically a meta where all pokemon are allowed including z moves and Megas ofcourse theres a banned list and although tera is an awful mechanic that disrupted the natdex format gen 8 national dex is a competitive tear at the high ladder. If Blastoise can be banned in a meta like that it means that if megas come back once it shell smashes it becomes monster

@spamgoose6447 6 месяцев назад

Quaquaval having triple axel now will give it a shot at OU again imo. Triple Axel destroys its previous counters

@1peidu 6 месяцев назад

That axel doing a fat 13% to pex with 3 hits and a fat 5% to dozo with 3 crit hits

@spamgoose6447 6 месяцев назад

@@1peidu he said dragonite and dragapult were counters, reason why I said it lol

@sonic5993 6 месяцев назад

@@spamgoose6447 Meowscarda gets it too and it can get STAB off of it unlike Quav, so probably not.

@MisterSleep1123 6 месяцев назад

@@sonic5993Ydk it can tera, right? But then again, why waste a tera to be an ice type

@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 6 месяцев назад

@@MisterSleep1123Regiekeki:

@jo_jo_jo 6 месяцев назад

Honest to God, I just saw that Meganium didn't get any significant boost in Indigo disk and I am SO mad about it. Like, really? How is it possible that Gamefreak keeps on mistreating it? Gosh, GF better put their sh¨t together.

@brain_tonic 6 месяцев назад

But wait! It got…. Uh… hmmm… knockoff, surely that’s a rare move that not over a hundred mons better than meganium learn. (Clueless) Oh oh oh ! I got you! It got body press! Now it can deal with those pesky steel types! Please ignore the fact that it already knows earthquake and that it’s best defense boosting move is… curse…

@bryanc1772 6 месяцев назад

Give it a Fire/Grass regional form and then we can talk

@typhlosion7872 6 месяцев назад

Primarina is so good in UU for gens 7 and 8 and I hope that continues. Highest special attack AND highest special defense of all starters not counting Eeveelutions

@Goldenblade14 6 месяцев назад

It kind of astounds me how Prima isn't at least BL, but then again, I look to the Rampardos theorem.

@teddyhaines6613 6 месяцев назад

@@Goldenblade14 Rampardos theorem is overstating it considering Primarina has good special bulk and a good defensive typing. Think it's just the speed holding it back.

@YoungusChungus 6 месяцев назад

Well Rampardos Theorem says that "power isn't everything," and it doesn't necessarily specify the issue as poor bulk or typing. Primarina having the Highest starter Special Attack and being considered a C Tier fits the mold imo.@@teddyhaines6613

@Rawla2 6 месяцев назад

Yea I was hoping Primarina would get maybe quiver dance and or boomburst this gen. But alas my girl is just gonna have to wait for her time

@TrixterTheFemboy 6 месяцев назад

@@Rawla2 Boomburst I would love, but dear gods if this thing gets Quiver Dance it's skyrocketing right up to OU and never coming back down

@Elfking94 6 месяцев назад

Ill never forget somehow being swept by an evasive/sleep meganium in the gen 3 battle tower. Boy what an introduction to gimick strategies lol

@shawnli4746 6 месяцев назад

That's why it's a battle tower. You're allowed to use degenerate stuff that smogon ban ages ago. But then again, you're also up against a CPU that knows which move you click, and luck is always on their side.

@ThePharphis 6 месяцев назад

I don't remember ever facing that, but my fire punch alakazam may have just crushed it every time. I'm not really sure.

@bryanc1772 6 месяцев назад

This is why u use Mono dragon Latios with sub calm and recover

@shawnli4746 6 месяцев назад

@@bryanc1772 to quote a certain other video: none of that matters when you can't *hit* them

@bryanc1772 6 месяцев назад

@@shawnli4746 +6 252 SpA Latios Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Meganium: 377-444 (103.5 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO It only needs to hit once which will come . It’s only a matter of time and yea it’s not like meganium can break Latios subs

@ginwilliam7763 6 месяцев назад

I feel like Dirge is at least A rank. Being viable in Ubers should surely be worth some brownie points.

@ShiningJudgment666 4 месяца назад

It's held back by the fact it's only been around for 1 generation.

@DUDEBRUHMICE 2 месяца назад

If this was doubles then incineroar would’ve been S tier

@Alexdbre 24 дня назад

Z Tier actually…

@michaelurmo7984 17 дней назад

Incineroar tier, more like

@gioanysgonzalez3396 6 месяцев назад

Charizard: Hey look at that guys ! I’m placed in PU as in “Perfectly Usable” Blastoise: Should we tell him? Venusaur: Nah let it sink in.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 6 месяцев назад

I mean Blastoise probably should avoid casting stones, or really doing anything to draw attention to itself. Or its forehead

@lane5686 6 месяцев назад

Blaziken who is the archetype of Fire & Fighting for 3 generations and gained speed boost: Bawk Bawk motherf*cker

@t.j.helming5534 6 месяцев назад

I've been a HUGE Swampert fan for majority of its existence. Glad to see that the competitive scene loves it too!!

@nbassasin8092 6 месяцев назад

Swampert had a very significant niche in previous gen as a specially defensive wall that could set p rocks, spread toxic/threaten what it walls, utilise flip turn for momentum, and just spam earthquake or scald, so it was actually quite decent quite recently (nothng game breaking but the niche it fitted was quite significant)

@t.j.helming5534 6 месяцев назад

I still to this day, play ruby & Sapphire on my Gameboy SP Swampert is my undisputed favorite starter of all time! I'm soo dedicated to Swampert (even before the physical/special split) that I don't care using an over-leveled mixed attacking starter during playthroughs (hydro pump/surf; ice beam; earthquake; brick break). I even trade every Swampert I've ever played with to another game before restarting my gen 3 games!

@ShiningJudgment666 4 месяца назад

@@t.j.helming5534 Mixed Swampert was pretty much the standard in Gens 3 and 4. It usually packed Ice Beam and Earthquake for damage dealing moves while the other 2 slots were for utility (Roar for PHazing and either Stealth Rock or Water STAB for more coverage). Ice Beam despite running off its lower attacking stat was more effective than Ice Punch in Gen 4.

@weesticles650 6 месяцев назад

Keep in mind both Meowscarada and Quaquaval got Triple Axel this dlc so they're gonna be even better than at the time this tier list was made.

@cheyanne2001 6 месяцев назад

They *both* got Triple Axel??? What was Game Freak cooking lol

@weesticles650 6 месяцев назад

@@cheyanne2001 if you think that's bad think of VGC. Incineroar just got Helping Hand 😂. I don't know why the thought Meowscarada, Quaquaval or most of all Incineroar needed buffs.

@cheyanne2001 6 месяцев назад

@@weesticles650 they did *what* to Incin

@weesticles650 6 месяцев назад

@@cheyanne2001 it got Helping Hand. Plus it got the new move Temper Flare so if it hits into Protect it'll have a 150 BP move the next turn.

@cheyanne2001 6 месяцев назад

@@weesticles650 OH WHY. It's not like Incin was a top VGC Mon already, yup. It needed more buffs apparently 😭

@EmersonCRVG 6 месяцев назад

incineroar in singles, C tier, middle of the middle. In doubles, SSS+

@maxwellakuoku3376 6 месяцев назад

God tier fr

@nathanielkarasik2372 6 месяцев назад

Seeing meganimun one of my favorite starters always so low always breaks my heart.

@majesticgothitelle1802 6 месяцев назад

Only if meganium get a new ability like thick fat or technician

@Lagi42800 6 месяцев назад

Or megic bounce, or even Triage

@nathanielkarasik2372 6 месяцев назад

@@majesticgothitelle1802 that would be such a cool hidden ability. Or just a boost in stats

@bonniefazbear1987 6 месяцев назад

Just remember that this is only with competitive Pokémon, comp stuff isn't all there is

@bryanc1772 6 месяцев назад

It even ties with Ash’s Bulbasaur in a League battle lol

@wanderlustwarrior 6 месяцев назад

Saw Meganium coming a mile away. It basically exists to get dunked on. It's also the poster child of "overshadowed by its own middle stage."

@megasean3000 6 месяцев назад

GameFreak: How do we buff Meganium? Sensible employee 1: Give it new moves? GameFreak: Nah. Sensible employee 2: Give it a new ability which compliments its wall status? GameFreak: Nah. Dumbass employee: Make it the mascot for the new Pokemon Snap game and call it a day? GameFreak: BRILLIANT!!!

@goGothitaLOL 6 месяцев назад

It did just got 3 new moves recently in S/V Knock Off, Body Press, and Encore It’s HA is still the infamous Leaf Guard, it lost Aromatherapy (deleted) with no Heal Bell to take it’s place, and still no Sleep Powder, Calm Mind, Earth Power, or the new Alluring Voice, not even Pollen Puff

@Catastrophe3x3 6 месяцев назад

Give it regenerator, synthesis, calm mind, earth power & sleep powder and it would probably be decent in RU.

@maverick12070 3 месяца назад

I still want my Mega Meganium. Grass/Fairy, Pixilate, Hypervoice, 100 Base Speed. done

@reycoswanson 6 месяцев назад

Actually im pretty sure the protean/libero change was due to Tera. Like you said Gren had it or 3 gens and they left it alone. Im sure there would have been bugs or terablast would be absurd on them, also if keckleon stays gone that would make sense as a reason. (Not that keckleon was used a lot lol)

@BrendonCap 6 месяцев назад

It definitely was because it was broken or that they thought it was distracting. Bugs would have been simple to fix, thats really not an issue. This is coming from a dev.

@Unknwnwrrior 6 месяцев назад

I'm fairly confident because it was Cinderace wrecking stuff in Battle Stadium Singles (BSS). With Bounce, Bulk Up/HJK, Sucker Punch, Pyro Ball, and Gigantamax it could go for a Max Airstream then pick and choose its counters, deftly avoiding any priority with Protean that could dent it.

@aaajeear8654 6 месяцев назад

@@BrendonCap Gamefreak having an easy time fixing bugs? ha, that's funny.

@dysr 6 месяцев назад

That doesn't seem particularly likely, since Tera just disables those abilities, so they could've done the same thing with the previous version.

@BrendonCap 6 месяцев назад

@@aaajeear8654 All jokes aside, yes, gamefreak is quite adept at making games without bugs, if you dont count graphical errors. When was the last time we had a real significant bug related to the type chart or abilities? They are amazingly rare.

@omniultimate 6 месяцев назад

Blaziken has been my favorite pokemon since it's beginning to see it ascend so high competitively has always put a smile on my face if only it was also amazing in VGC

@Alastordadeer 5 месяцев назад

I have the same with greninja. Even with battle bond no longer making it’s base stats mewtwo level. It’s still an insanely good mon, despite that it doesn’t have a niece in the among the highest offensive stat department. It’s still an all around S tier Pokemon.

@SarcasticBeingYes 2 месяца назад

greninja trash lol@@Alastordadeer

@bijupak 2 месяца назад

@@SarcasticBeingYes Yea lol Greninja trash

@AlectricEel 6 месяцев назад

Contrary Serperior with leaf storm and choice specs plus maxed out speed is way too deadly.

@NasJuiced 6 месяцев назад

i think specs serperior is one of the worse serp sets tbh. sub leech glare leaf storm (you could swap a move for coverage such as hidden power/tera blast). the ability to spread paralysis as a mon that fast + being able to take advantage of paralysis to setup is crazy good. serp isn’t as scary if it’s just clicking leaf storm and, for example, if someone switches in a heatran your stuck with a specs leaf storm instead of being able to snipe it with coverage like hidden power/ tera blast ground or, even better, paralyze it.

@mangosteak 6 месяцев назад

specs serp is Bad Grass is a trash offensive typing. Serp loves spamming its aupport moves like glare, leechseed and defog Or screens

@AlectricEel 6 месяцев назад

@@NasJuiced You make a very good point however Serp's many weaknesses may mean to use at least 2 moves it needs a sash. Sashing it ain't a bad move or anything but it takes away the use of another item. Honestly your opinion is clever and probably better than how I like to use Serp however I like brute force!

@AlectricEel 6 месяцев назад

@@mangosteak Just because a type is trash offensively, doesn't mean a Pokemon that has that type is. And Grass is probably worse defensively due to its many weaknesses! Its honestly up to you how to play with it and I respect your opinion as that is how Serp is usually played! I just like trying to take mons out quickly before they can set up entry hazards and status conditions.

@devilman4723 6 месяцев назад

@@AlectricEelthe idea is more than grass isn't great offensively, so you don't want to lock yourself into it. Using Leaf Storm to get the +2 and using that to break your normal switchins with something like Tera Blast Fire is a lot more effective than being forced out yourself. Alternatively, grabbing a substitute can let you spam Leaf Storm forever and eventually break everything that used to wall you

@ItsJustKaya 6 месяцев назад

Chesnaught is my favourite pokemon to find early one in any Rom. Its essentially Swampert but double weak to Flying. Which is generally rare to see in competitive and on difficult game.

@maniakb416 6 месяцев назад

Flying is absolutely not uncommon to see in competitive.

@TheOnlyGBeast 6 месяцев назад

I think skeledirge is back in OU now by usage, it's still quite great

@KiryuuYoshiya 6 месяцев назад

venusaur truly is the goat. so glad to see it this high on the list where it deserves to be 💕

@midniteryder_3-16 5 месяцев назад

Wish it was on the s tier, though…but whatever…

@MorrisPXG 6 месяцев назад

Even Greninja Got Nerfed in Battle Bond and Protean,He’s still Grow Strong,Well done.

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

Shouldn't there be a space after every comma?

@newdonkshitty 5 месяцев назад

Calling Serperiors movepool "Devilish" was a good callback. For the unaware, Contrary used to be called "Devil's Advocate" prior to BW being released in English.

@kariquigley3817 2 месяца назад

30:49 not even gliscore can tank it

@fooddaily3609 6 месяцев назад

I think the biggest reason they have changed Protean/Libero is the interaction with terastalization. However, I think this change will stay even in future gens.

@DampWetstew 6 месяцев назад

It'ld be nice if they gave Kelceon a variant of the original version. Being able to swap between types freely makes it really fun. With it's stats keep it from being overwhelming. (Very high sp.def, average hp, defense attack, and low speed) It also gets priority Dark/Ghost/Normal attacks, giving it a lot of fun immunity play.

@Pariah_ANT 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I thought the same thing when they nerfed it.

@what.are.you.doing.stepbro 5 месяцев назад

Yea. If it remained the same in gen 9, Meow would totally outclass the other 2 especially now that it gets triple axel. Its faster than the other 2 or in fact any starter and it hits harder than greninja and also has a broken signature move

@RealBeastBoy007 3 месяца назад

@@what.are.you.doing.stepbroImagine they bring back Ash Greninja

@thelegendsplays6266 6 месяцев назад

Blaziken has been my fave mon since I got introduced to Pokemon, which was with the release of Emerald. It does me so well to see my boy top the list of the tierlist because he was too broken to deal with for like 3 whole gens.

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

@thelegendsplays6266 5 месяцев назад

@@Amelia4111 Since Blaziken has a gender ratio of 87.5% male and 12.5% female and I only ever got male Torchics, I am very confident to call him my boy and dont think you should critize this topic to even begin with

@darkenedpp 2 месяца назад

@@Amelia4111 Why? There's clearly genders there.

@Aspencio 20 дней назад

@@Amelia4111okay bro

@ekman2095 6 месяцев назад

I would LOVE seeing a similar video going over pseudo legendaries!

@praise0908 6 месяцев назад

Awesome video! I'm a shiny hunter, not a competitive player, but I love watching comp videos so I really like that you get so detailed on the history of all these mons. Even the bad ones!

@mjodyh Месяц назад

I was taken aback while watching the video when I noticed Incineroar in the C-Tier. I paused the video and checked the title to see "-Singles", then it all makes sense

@nolanevans7603 6 месяцев назад

Imfernape needs a strong special Fighting Type move like Aura Sphere!

@fernandoguillen5996 6 месяцев назад

It's weird and fascinating how infernape can have a second chance if it obtains a bettee special movepool

@laxusstrauss5945 6 месяцев назад

It already have it infernape just needs a better hidden ability or a boost to iron fist (which is super weak 20%) it should get the same boost as strong jaw The fact that it stayed OU/UU stable for 16 years with even blaze is impressive same goes with swampert in fact most of his sets are not used with iron fist

@qwilliams1539 6 месяцев назад

But it does have such a move... ...70% of the time.

@MMW1299 6 месяцев назад

It learns Aura Sphere btw

@jerrytaylor4036 6 месяцев назад

@@qwilliams1539call it what it is; focus miss

@tenken73 6 месяцев назад

Hey man, love you guys and your videos. I appreciate the passion. Happy holidays! (Also, Venosaur will always be #1*) Pokédex depending on

@krisiverse 6 месяцев назад

Meganium is one of my absolute favorite Pokemon, but yeah, competitively it definitely deserves that placement in F tier. The placings of all these are solid and you've explained them very thoroughly, great video!

@loupe500 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, I always knew my boy would be in first, like he is supposed to be. But in all seriousness, I think Hisuian Sammurott, Skeliderge and Meowscarada will be seen in A tier next gen, specially the former 2, since I just can’t see Skeliderge losing it’s niche in ubers without a legendary unaware pokemon being released. Ubers is currently way too powerful and it’s in need of an unaware user, and he is just the best one.

@what.are.you.doing.stepbro 5 месяцев назад

It'll lose tera next gen so it wont be nearly as viable as it is now. It has wayy too many common weaknesses for a slow pokemon to be good without tera next gen. Meowscarada got tripple axel and is now actually one of the most used mon on ou according to the usage chart finchinator tweeted

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it.

@loupe500 5 месяцев назад

@@what.are.you.doing.stepbro he is not good even with tera. He has just been power crept. But he is still decent, it’s slow but speed boost can fix this, and he will probably have the best history of any starter forever. I just can’t see any starter having 3 generations in ubers. He was even considered good in gen 5, that’s just how goated his run was.

@Folutu 6 месяцев назад

My favorite and chosen starters for each gen: Gen 1: Bulbasaur Gen 2: Totodile Gen 3: Treecko Gen 4: Turtwig Gen 5: Snivy Gen 6: Froakie Gen 7: Rowlet Gen 8: Sobble Gen 9: Fuecoco Looking at the list, I think I've picked rather well. I tend towards reptile/amphibian Pokémon, with a bias towards Grass and the resulting choices haven't been bad.

@arnoldwolf6 5 месяцев назад

Besides the first two I also have the same favorites (gen 3 to gen 9), but My fav of all starter is by far far far far margin Squirtle (I have a Blastoise tattoo on my back). 2nd gen is Chikorita (but is more by a nostalgic factor than competitive or any other way)

@FilipDrlik 6 месяцев назад

Great video, please do legendaries in the same video format

@MusicComet 5 месяцев назад

I like how you make a lot of pokemon sound strong despite their tiers like with decidueye and emboar. I'm not into competitive so I can't tell how true this is, it just sounds really nice :)

@alfredsupersauce 6 месяцев назад

Can’t wait to see meganium also come in last in the doubles version of this video. Incineroar being #1 is also inevitable.

@dr.cogleIRL 4 месяца назад

God, Greninja, and Cinderace used to be absolutely terrifying back then, so I've heard. Having practically the same abilities that were broken. I think its good they nerfed their abilities because they were almost unstoppable. But the fact they almost destroyed competitive battles kinda makes me love them even more

@Matpit18 6 месяцев назад

Great video, FSG! Very well made! Can’t wait for the Doubles Version of this video, though I think we all know who the best starter is there! 😂

@MorrisPXG 6 месяцев назад

Incineroar:

@lorenzotosi7872 6 месяцев назад

Greninja also or venusaur rillaboom mega Charizard y serperior can be S tier maybe incineroar is S+

@pekorisa 6 месяцев назад

@@lorenzotosi7872 Honestly they could be S and Incin could just jump straight into S++ Gigachad buff cat is singlehandedly the best doubles Pkmn to have ever existed and the others will never compare

@lorenzotosi7872 6 месяцев назад

ever no, consider landorus-t, meta since its introduction, gastrodon, groudon, and smeargle ludicolo metagrross the early days, at the end the title of best goes to none other than king kyogre itself@@pekorisa

@jeremiahgreen5632 6 месяцев назад

@@lorenzotosi7872Yeah, but Incineroar is way more consistent. Kyogre can be easily shut down by Groudon with Solar Beam.

@gavtro2 6 месяцев назад

Blaziken has always been my favorite starter, other than personal bias I'm happy to see there is a reason why I liked it so much.

@Crusina 6 месяцев назад

Typhlosion is my favorite starter and one of my favorite pokemon if all time. Its both ferocious but also cuddly. Could you imagine being out in the wilds and juat cuddling with it late at night to go to sleep?

@bomoose 6 месяцев назад

and it burning you to death?

@mrtrollnator123 6 месяцев назад

@@bomooseit can take its flames off

@deanoor9391 6 месяцев назад

Swampert is my favorite final evolution of the starters but infernape isn't that far away

@laxusstrauss5945 6 месяцев назад

Man of culture

@sonicmaster206 6 месяцев назад

Same here

@yaya6195 6 месяцев назад

Same,their my favorite water and fire starters respectively (Meowscarada is my favorite grass)

@Brochacho73 5 месяцев назад

@deanoor9391 the fact we have the same favorite mon and name is wild lol

@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 6 месяцев назад

I wonder how much this list will change with their full return in Teal Mask/Indigo Disk SV DLC? Sadly it will be quite while since it usually takes several testing and actual tourneys to fully test out a complete list in regards to the full changes.

@kanauso3706 6 месяцев назад

False Swipe always posts BANGERS.

@nightsider2705 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, I'd argue chesnaught deserves to be moved up a tier. It's been a solid uu mon for 2 of 3 gens its been in, while everything else in the same tier was ru or below

@elrhunadan 6 месяцев назад

Meganium wouldn't be so lonely if you had counted Pikachu

@tonyvazquez7612 6 месяцев назад

At least the lets go starters have coverage

@iss2075 6 месяцев назад

I think Meganium could be quite good with Regenerator (especially in metagames with really strong Ground-types, which is most of them lol). And it wouldn't need to use Assault Vest like Tangrowth. And it's faster and stronger than Amoongus.

@MMW1299 6 месяцев назад

I also think Swampert should get Slack Off, Recover or Regenerator. Would fit because it's based off a mud fish/amphibian

@skeetermania3202 6 месяцев назад

Triage would be my pick.

@teddyhaines6613 6 месяцев назад

Hell, give it Regenerator and Strength Sap. That would make it a tank physical sweepers actually fear facing instead of thinking it's setup fodder.

@skeetermania3202 6 месяцев назад

@@teddyhaines6613 Imagine Triage Strength Sap, though. That could go pretty wild.

@pixelbro99 6 месяцев назад

Floral healing would make a lot of sense considering it has a giant flower around its neck. Also, give my girl Meganium Sleep Powder and Stun Spore and maybe Pollen Puff.

@MrSupersonic2012 6 месяцев назад

Meganium fans: GF please buff GF: What? You want us to give Charizard ANOTHER new form?

@TheSpiritOfGeorgia 6 месяцев назад

We need these tierlist from you! Great video.

@PWNAGE703 6 месяцев назад

Bro the fact that dlc is $35 is insane

@nametab6415 6 месяцев назад

Great video as always: of course I'd make a few changes though Samurott down to E: It might have been good in NU but it's still always NU, similar to Typhlosion's frequent NU excursions Chesnaught up to C: The OU niche in XY does a fair bit for me here even if it ead RU by usage Skeledirge to A: Only one generation but it's literally checking the most broken pokemon conceived. Definitely higher than Meow

@nbassasin8092 6 месяцев назад

Zard atleast a tier lower as well? been badge if you exclude the bias and 2 megas it got, B tops but C even

@nikinovski 12 дней назад

10:00 the way he introduces the beginning of C rank and above, and immediately hts you with the blastoise facing back pose. False Swipe Gaming you didn't need to go this hard 🔥🔥

@gamerwatchproductions8684 6 месяцев назад

I would like to see more of these tier list videos. Could the next one be the regional variants ranked?

@sebarsht12 6 месяцев назад

It really goes to show, despite Grass having the reputation of one of the worst offensive typing, their support capabilities and resistances to some key types. Grass serves to be one of the most balanced types (in terms of starters) From my view and counting, using the number of Mons above and below C-Tier (which i consider as the middle ground) - Grass is well-balanced - Fire, even counting regional forms is POWERFUL as well as popular, it helps that many games have a sparce diversity of fire types. - Water while favouring average towards above average. As a whole, to me, it's reliable. Squirtle was my first ever Pokémon, Gatr was my first ever shiny. I tend to lean towards the Water type. -

@brain_tonic 6 месяцев назад

That’s what makes Meganium extra bad. It manages to be a grass type without all those good grass support moves and good abilities that grass types tend to have. Also grass is frequently a good secondary typing on defensive mons (see ferrothorn or Amoonguss) but Meganium is monotype. Bro never stood a chance. 😢

@bryanc1772 6 месяцев назад

@@brain_tonicblame power creep and the existance of better Pokémon Just use Tangrowth , it’s just much better than most things Meganium can do Offensive Grass types ; Ferrothorn , Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Waterpon and Rockpon exist now, even Kartana and Mega Venusaur Venusaur nowadays is a lot better since Poison typing helps it with Fairies

@sebarsht12 6 месяцев назад

@@bryanc1772 it should also be noted that Meganium has access to the Grass staples of Leech Seed, Powders and self-healing as well as dual screens. Then Serperior came along.

@brain_tonic 6 месяцев назад

@@sebarsht12 It actually only has poison powder, which is a terrible move... meanwhile Venusaur has sleep powder and toxic. Also hundreds of mons have screens, pretty irrelevant to mention. Leech seed is on every defensive grass pretty much, so Meganium isn't really standing out with that either.

@homebaked1731 6 месяцев назад

How is charizard ranked so high when it’s been pu for the last 3 gens

@aleger620 4 месяца назад

That’s puzzling me too… but if the video author was making a video based on NATDEX-Tier where Both Mega Char versions are available, it has its sense because both are very solid mons, normal Char in Pu and UU char is quite nasty… So, probabily a little FORCED but Char deserve a seat in the upper level of the pyramid 🙂

@homebaked1731 Месяц назад

It’s recently dropped to ZU. I’m even more baffled as to why it’s ranked so high here

@boop53 6 месяцев назад

15:20 Quaquaval in the past few months has also gained Knock Off and Triple Axel. Its honestly a really cool pokemon

@Professor_Wisteria_ 5 месяцев назад

Turtwig was my first ever starter, and i can say confidently that the phrase "Shell Smash Torterra" gives me goosebumps. he might not be one of the most ridiculous mons out there but good gods above is he a tanky mf. add shell smash to that and you have a cannonball of a pokemon

@falsebeliever8079 6 месяцев назад

Meganium should get a signature move that sets up sun and grassy terrain simultaneously

@Unknwnwrrior 6 месяцев назад

"Please buff Meganium" GF with the Indigo Disk: "Nerf Meganium? Alright!"

@gio9255 5 месяцев назад

This was an awesome video format. Please do this again for the pseudo legendaries and legendaries.

@DatMageDoe 6 месяцев назад

If we're making this a series (which tbh, I'm down for), I'd love to see variants of this for Pseudo-Legendaries, Box Art Legendaries, and Mythicals. Though admittedly for Box Art Legendaries in particular you'd need to base it on more than just tier because all but a small number of them share the same tier.

@jacobruby2237 6 месяцев назад

I'm glad that Torterra finally got Shell Smash and other moves in Gen 9. (It should've gotten Shell Smash in BDSP) Though on BDSP, there must've been tiers for it right? I remember when Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee had its own playable tiers.

@superdriver 6 месяцев назад

Imagine releasing this the day Sceptile gets shed tail

@Smallsmallrose 5 месяцев назад

Decidueye also saw a good amount of use in gen 7 UU, it was a decent stallbreaker in a meta where stallbreakers were inconsistent due to stall's variety, and its Z-move was incredibly powerful, even to resists.

@boop53 6 месяцев назад

imo, Meowscarada will be back in OU. It will have competition of course, but that movepool and speed tier will always give it a place it gained some new moves in indigo disk

@missplayer30 6 месяцев назад

Yay! My favorite starter, Swampert, ever made it to A tier, I'm so proud of him. I don't care if he isn't S tier (Which honestly it's a very tough spot to reach), as long as he is still ze best and still is.

@mylestomsik4720 6 месяцев назад

No matter if some of the starters were strong or not, they still are iconic and memorable, and we will remember them for a long time to come.

@brandonespinoza9279 6 месяцев назад

Meganium should get a buff like a HUGE amount to its Grass-Type moves and offensive stats, under Sunlight/Grassy Terrain, which I would call Herbal Boost, which would boost its Attack & Special Attack by 50% (100% if both Sunlight & Grassy Terrain are each set up) respectively.

@ryanmurphy3149 6 месяцев назад

Some fun Cinderace tech Since Ace is mono type instead of dual type like its Protean starter counterparts, using a fire type move as your first move will not trigger Libero. You can use Pyro Ball or Will o Wisp turn 1, then use Iron Head turn 2 and you'll change to steel type. I believe the reason Meowscarada and Greninja cant do this is because of their dual typing specifically, making Cinderace all the more unique compared to the other two

@mragabiou5478 6 месяцев назад

Charizard: The best and worst starter of ALL TIME

@andytaker3073 6 месяцев назад

Except you are incorrect about Charizard being the worst starter of all time

@mragabiou5478 6 месяцев назад

@@andytaker3073true but he has been top tier and bottom tier multiple times

@sharkronical 6 месяцев назад

⁠@@mragabiou5478the only time it’s bottom tier is gen 1 arguably. Gen 2 it’s good and gen 3 onwards, Meganium exists

@ItsJustKaya 6 месяцев назад

Let me freshen up your knowledge. Gen2 fire starter has same bst. And yet we talk less about it then the grass type which is ironic considering its almost non-existing fanbase

@laxusstrauss5945 6 месяцев назад

without megas its D at best

@sinno96 6 месяцев назад

I know people like Charizard, but I gotta say I would put it in B. While it’s had OU nichés, I can’t put it above infernape for how good it was in gen 4, 5, and 6 to an extent.

@obiwancannoli1920 5 месяцев назад

Infernape has always been good in UU

@Alastordadeer 5 месяцев назад

Fair but solar power charizard is a menace. Almost nothing can come in on an overheat from this thing. And it’s mega’s have always been goated

@supercrazy843 5 месяцев назад

Zard has been OU in 3 gens, UUBL in Gen 2 with a great niche in OU if you can pull it off, while also having a good niche in OU in gen 8 with its base form. Infernape was OU for 2 gens and hasn't had a niche in OU since Gen 5. Zard has had lower lows than infernape but it has had higher highs too.

@Alastordadeer 5 месяцев назад

@@supercrazy843 solar power charizard is a menace tho

@supercrazy843 5 месяцев назад

@@Alastordadeer only in gen 8 during Isle of armor. Solar power zard is strong but historically hasn't been enough to have a solid niche until gen 8 Isle of armor

@lorenzotosi7872 6 месяцев назад

Always wanted a well done starter analysis, my hope was fading but fsg is there for a reason

@tnghunter 3 месяца назад

I did have fun mopping the floor with Zacian & Cinderace in doubles. "Oh, you have a bulky water type? Well Libero energy ball should deal with that fine."

@beanburrito4405 6 месяцев назад

Quaquaval should be B tier as it was ranked OU for half a year. Great video!!

@marioalbertofernandez9225 6 месяцев назад

Serperior is my favorite starter and I liked its high place.

@thomasmcmahan2631 5 месяцев назад

Its interesting to think about how different this list is now. Of course blaziken earns a top spot for so many years of dominance but he has definitely been power crept quite a bit.

@nanya524 6 месяцев назад

Not surprised Empoleon was ranked so high. Only two weaknesses in Gens 4 and 5 and tough enough to withstand a STAB Close Combat/Earthquake from Infernape/Torterra while OHKOing them in return.

@arnoldwolf6 5 месяцев назад

On gen gen 4 and onwards he always have : 3 Weaknees Thunder, Ground and Fighting this never had been changed. in gen 6 steel lose Dark and Ghost as a resistant only...

@playersnake 6 месяцев назад

Please do a theorem video explaining the impact of entry hazards (forretress theorem)

@brentvalliere7624 6 месяцев назад

Skeledirge is definitely an A-tier in my book. Top 10 pokemon in Uber and UU, and now its back in OU. Very good boy!

@CMiY0 6 месяцев назад

Along with this I think H. Samurott deserved A tier bare minimum. Getting free spikes up is insane. It forces crazy progress and has massive sweeping ability with a swords dance sucker punch tera set.

@Amelia4111 5 месяцев назад

We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl. WHY?

@ShinobiDude1 5 месяцев назад

If you think about it, Terapagos Stellar is similar to Protean/Libero in the sense that it's busted for granting STAB everytime you attack with any type anytime you want. Libero/Protean was/is better though, since you get to change your type and provides a defensive option if needed.

@GrizbyK72 4 месяца назад

Wow. I love Venusaur, but did not expect it to be ranked this high. And right next to its “cooler” sibling no less.

@BMB 5 месяцев назад

fun fact: charizard is NU in gen 1, but is one of the top 20 most used pokémon in OU because new players don’t know any better

@xeruexe1624 6 месяцев назад

Shouldn't we count Raichu for Yellow's Pikachu? So Meganium wouldn't be so lonely down there.

@skeetermania3202 6 месяцев назад

In neither game where Pikachu is a starter can you even evolve it.

@Espadasilenciosa 6 месяцев назад

@@skeetermania3202 You can trade it to another game, evolve it there and trade it back to yellow

@acekun6493 6 месяцев назад

I actually had the top 8 ranked in the exact same order except for Charizard which I put over Serp. Lowkey feel like you guys underrated it. Being an OU threat in 4 gens (2,3,6,7) while (as Zard-X) even being considered the best Pokemon in OU during XY. Historically it just has done more than almost anything else on the list (except getting banned from OU)