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How Good Was John McEnroe Actually? 

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How Good Was John McEnroe Actually?
John was a player of great skill and finesse, with the best volleying touch in tennis history. His subtle nuances at net, which were only a sliver of his vast arsenal of shots, stood in stark contrast to his loud outbursts between the lines, which frequently overshadowed the depth of his game.
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@ccohen1965
@ccohen1965 Год назад
John had the most beautiful game I have ever seen. He may not have won as many slams as some other players, but if you want to watch a pure artist at work, he is the one to watch.
@fundhund62
@fundhund62 Год назад
To be fair, he played in a much tougher era than today, where 98% of players are one-dimensional baseline robots. Back then, the majority of tennis professionals had complete games. That's unthinkable today.
@ccohen1965
@ccohen1965 Год назад
@@fundhund62 Agreed and it was a VERY different game with wood racquets.
@vinylrulesok8470
@vinylrulesok8470 Год назад
My favourite player hands down. Watching him play was always entertaining and at his best he was untouchable.
@roberthale2268
@roberthale2268 Год назад
Mac was/is a tennis genius. It's too bad the the United States can't produce a dominant player like Mac these days. Even in his later years on the Senior circuit, Mac was tearing up younger players. It takes a genius to do this.
@Perebynis
@Perebynis Год назад
Absolutely. Mac raised the bar on the senior´s tour where he won another twenty-something titles. Nowadays the level of tennis on the ex-pro´s tournaments is really high and I have no doubt that this is due to Mac´s efforts there. - It´s strange that the US failed of producing a dominant follow-up to the Sampras and Agassi era, but what´s even stranger (from a german tennis fan´s point of view here) is that the US produce female tennis talents over and over, one better than the other. That reservoir really seems inexhaustible. But what happened on the male´s side?
@chocolatetownforever7537
@chocolatetownforever7537 9 месяцев назад
Its embarrassing that the US cant develop a few men, capable of winning slams. While I realize tennis isnt as huge of a sport anymore here, but still. Im just thankful I grew up in the 90s, which in my opinion, is the greatest era for American tennis. Im just kind of shocked that era dropped off SO much after Roddick. Its a shame.
@DjangoThunders
@DjangoThunders Год назад
Mac was the Jimi Hendrix of tennis, an improvisational artist of the highest order. He bridged the gap from the wood racket era to modern fiber rackets. When people were able to really bash the ball from the baseline, he never changed his game. I am so happy to have grown up in the 70's and 80's. Everything was better, the music, the sports and the drugs.
@silverman169
@silverman169 10 месяцев назад
It's amazing and funny how such a fiery personality can have such a beautiful graceful playing style.
@axelsohn1454
@axelsohn1454 Год назад
McEnroe was not only a great tennis player, he was a great tennis analyst as a sportscaster. He made sport more interesting than it otherwise was.
@chocolatetownforever7537
@chocolatetownforever7537 9 месяцев назад
Agreed. Maybe yelling and swearing isnt the best behavior, but it made tennis more interesting. Its also a huge reason that Mac got a lot of those big sponsorships in the 80s, because even people who didnt watch tennis often, knew about John McEnroe. He helped the sport become huge in America.
@robcarter55
@robcarter55 Год назад
My favourite player of all time and probably the best doubles player ever which is even more appreciated I think by club level competition players who play mostly doubles. I think the singles game changed and left him behind frankly but only at the very top. I thought he could have played doubles a lot longer than he did and still won. Even in the seniors tour he had lost nothing. I had the pleasure of watching at the Royal Albert hall.
@rwruger01
@rwruger01 Год назад
"Simultaneously" AND "at the same time"...wow!
@jonrobles1468
@jonrobles1468 10 месяцев назад
He was amazing in his prime. I got to see him play Guillermo Vilas in an exhibition in Fresno in 1983. At the time, Vilas was still a top 10 player on the circuit and McEnroe manhandled him. Shocking that the 1984 U.S. Open would be the last Grand Slam singles title he would win. To be #1 in both singles AND doubles at the same time is something that will never be duplicated. In fact, only a handful of men's players since then have been in the top 10 in both disciplines at the same time, most recently Jack Sock in 2017 (#8 in singles, #9 in doubles).
@juliomamani7560
@juliomamani7560 11 месяцев назад
John McEnroe a pesar de los años sigue siendo una de las pocas estrella mundiales del tenis que esta presente y activo, felicitaciones!!
@user-jz6pn8ez5c
@user-jz6pn8ez5c 11 месяцев назад
He’s a GD legend! There’s no one like him, and never will be. He’s a true champion and very loved for sure. Shia’s portrayal was spot on! I don’t think they could’ve chose a better actor to play that role. I know Shia has his demons, but is still an amazing actor. I think we can all agree to that.
@zcomme
@zcomme 11 месяцев назад
I was a unconditionnal fan of Borg, but there was and still is only one Big Mac!! Magic touch, unique style, great new yorker behavior!
@jerseyneil1
@jerseyneil1 Год назад
McEnroe was great when Borg was playing, they pushed each other. Beating Borg at Wimbledon and the US Open was the highlight of his career. Although he won several grand slam titles after Borg's retirement, McEnroe never played at the same high level consistently often losing to Connors, Lendl, Edberg, etc.
@carlosmagnus717
@carlosmagnus717 9 месяцев назад
NATURAL TALENT, PERSONALITY AND GENIUSITY. Those are the three characteristics that define his game, and that have made him the most brilliant and spectacular player I have ever seen. There are two seasons, just when he changes the wooden racket for the graphite one, specifically years 83 and 84, when we find an absolutely sublime Mcenroe in terms of play and results, however, as we say in my country, "the good perfume is served in a small bottle", and his game based on inspiration has its weak point in consistency, so his results today may seem little, if we compare him with today's players (77 ATP tournaments and 7 Grand Slam Tournaments). However, the spectacle that his game gave is far superior to that of any of the current players, even though they can win 20 or 30 Grand Slams. It is not the quantity but the quality, in other words, it's not the quantity of victories but the "way of producing them" and in this aspect John Mcenroe was and is the reference. There has only been one player who comes close to him, his name is ROGER FEDERER.
@andrewhylton8712
@andrewhylton8712 10 месяцев назад
He was the best player of all time
@michaelsheedy
@michaelsheedy Год назад
He is still a great player with that lefty serve to the add court that pulls the returner off the court. Up to recently, he won senior pro tournaments against players much younger.
@davidcardano963
@davidcardano963 Год назад
A magician by ordinary standards
@carseye1219
@carseye1219 Год назад
He was a unique talent. His '84 year was off the charts. But he was never quite the same after the retiring of Borg, and his own sabbatical. Still, it's almost shocking to think the '84 US Open was his last Slam because he still played some great tennis after that. Trivia question: How many Slam titles did he win in Nike clothes? Answer: Zero. While we think of Mac as the first great Nike player, he was still wearing Sergio Tacchini clothes in '84.
@ljjackson7106
@ljjackson7106 21 день назад
Cannot get enough of McEnroe!!!!
@Skiiiiiifreeeeeee
@Skiiiiiifreeeeeee Год назад
if i'm not mistaken his forehand grip was continental, not eastern.
@davidcardano963
@davidcardano963 Год назад
It said that and on both sides.
@smftrsddvjiou6443
@smftrsddvjiou6443 9 месяцев назад
yes, they showed an almost semi western, however I think he played smth in between contintel and eastern (like me, however not because of Mac)
@donfarmerjr3371
@donfarmerjr3371 8 месяцев назад
I was there , he was fantastic. I was a division, 1 college player when he was. He was light years ahead of almost everybody else.
@AndrewLane-pm2ro
@AndrewLane-pm2ro 4 месяца назад
My favourite tennis player of all time. Poetry in motion.
@mikefranke4487
@mikefranke4487 9 месяцев назад
McEnroe is the most talented Tennis Player ever
@carterwilson4605
@carterwilson4605 Год назад
You say that he lost three matches in 84, and then you go on and say that he only lost a Davis Cup match at the end of the year in 1984. Unfortunately, this video also needs quite a bit of work.
@33COOLStreet
@33COOLStreet 6 месяцев назад
Did anyone else spot Shia LaBeouf at 5:34 mins. As regards to fitness, McEnroe was the first to admit he wasn't among the fittest and strongest players in the game. He's quoted as saying that he kept fit by playing doubles. The reason he could keep up with guys like Connors was that he tried to make the opponent do most of the running. He kept baseline rallies as short as possible. Some good footage in the video apart from Shia's sneak appearance !
@63002
@63002 Год назад
Most talented ever.
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 8 месяцев назад
The pure hand-eye coordination was astounding. I suspect it still is pretty good.
@badgirlz88
@badgirlz88 Год назад
"Simultaneously at the same time"... Really?
@antonboludo8886
@antonboludo8886 10 месяцев назад
Very good! Subtle Artisty in every shot, like Hana Mandlikova!
@TTBoy22-ij6th
@TTBoy22-ij6th 9 месяцев назад
She is underrated, winning five majors during the Evert & Navratalova era was impressive.
@antonboludo8886
@antonboludo8886 9 месяцев назад
Yes, she had very subtle shots.@@TTBoy22-ij6th
@tsc6454
@tsc6454 11 месяцев назад
Mac used a continental grip not an eastern forehand
@robertjones8598
@robertjones8598 Год назад
Mac was a great player, no doubt. I emulated his style as much as one could and loved watching his matches. His 1984 season was incredible and I was able to see him live at the USO that year. But for all of his unique talent and relatively short peak, he is largely overrated as a player and even for his talent. His uniqueness of style has something to do with it. He had great feel and touch, but he also went for the impossible a lot and when you do that you make some wow shots. I saw him miss volleys, lots of them, where I felt he could have stuck the thing rather than try and make a deft dropper that wasn’t needed. Yes, he was very talented. I just get sick of hearing people state he was the most talented. It’s ridiculous. I was a big fan, playing in college and copying this guy’s game so not coming from a hater viewpoint here.
@otaviosantos7194
@otaviosantos7194 6 месяцев назад
Looks like his forehand strike is made using continental grip insted of eastern.
@Siloguy
@Siloguy 9 месяцев назад
Ironically the graphite racquet that contributed to his great 84 season also ended his dominance as players started to hit with more power and spin and his wooden racquet based ground strokes couldn't cope.
@a.k.4486
@a.k.4486 Год назад
The best!
@shoahkhan5670
@shoahkhan5670 8 месяцев назад
If you take both his singles and doubles, he's the best... And if you add to that his entertainment value, it's almost unparalleled.
@tsc6454
@tsc6454 11 месяцев назад
The change in racquet technology has made McEnroe's game irrelevant. He couldn't pay his game today which had lead to the almost total decrease in tennis popularity and the rise of Pickleball. Tennis used to be a chess match where you had to think your way around the court now its all power.....a checkers game. Sad to see the demise of what was the most popular games in America in the '70s and early '80s.
@smftrsddvjiou6443
@smftrsddvjiou6443 9 месяцев назад
So true. The game was so different back then. So much more interesting.
@TTBoy22-ij6th
@TTBoy22-ij6th 9 месяцев назад
It was fun watching base liners take on serve volleyers. Borg & Conners vs McEnroe, Agassi vs Sampras & Rafter and Wilander & Lendl vs Becker & Edberg etc. Tennis got popular in Europe so it's decline in the US didn't matter financially but it's very repetitive now.
@mddistribution30
@mddistribution30 8 месяцев назад
His match record in 1984 of 83 and 3 is still the best calendar match record in the Open era. Not even Fed, Nadal or Djoko have bettered that!
@JoshDragon18
@JoshDragon18 Год назад
What's going on with the scaling of Peter Fleming and Michael Stich? It looks weird. Also Stich's name is prounced "shteek." Not "stich."
@raghumanda2tanush496
@raghumanda2tanush496 Год назад
Federer Djokovic nadal sampras borg laver connors ivan Lendl and McEnroe are goats for me in tennis 🎾.
@stevel.2759
@stevel.2759 10 месяцев назад
Aced everybody off the Court. Volleys on the rise. Everythingon the rise
@carterwilson4605
@carterwilson4605 Год назад
You keep incorrectly saying that he won games over and over again. He didn't win games. He won matches.
@pontusschroder8361
@pontusschroder8361 Год назад
I liked the video. Fantastic to see a video like this for free. You only saw errors?
@marton8288
@marton8288 Год назад
i would argue that he, in fact, won some games
@carterwilson4605
@carterwilson4605 Год назад
@@marton8288 it depends on the context. The speaker was referring to games, however, when he clearly was talking about matches against other players. Match stats form the basis for career statistics and analysis. By comparison, winning or losing individual games is relatively unimportant.
@marton8288
@marton8288 Год назад
@@carterwilson4605 seems like being pedantic and having no sense of sarcasm both go hand in hand
@SergFilippenko
@SergFilippenko Год назад
Come on guys… Mark Woodford??? Mark was a kid when John played… it was Peter Fleming!
@michaelsheedy
@michaelsheedy Год назад
Fritz is a great player, but still can't figure out what his strategy is other than trying to win from the base line. Seldom comes to net unless short shot brings him there. Winning from baseline doesn't work with all players.
@reptilezsweden
@reptilezsweden Год назад
"... simultaneously at the same time."
@user-ri3tg3is1v
@user-ri3tg3is1v Месяц назад
He had the ability to seemingly lose his mind on an umpires call, then gather himself and play on. Not quite fair to the other player, but they could have done it also.
@garyproffitt5941
@garyproffitt5941 7 месяцев назад
I cannot be serious spoil brat and he though the racket. Very intelligent John McEnroe and save the day.
@jasoncowell5133
@jasoncowell5133 Год назад
How big is the universe?
@Sealdrop
@Sealdrop Год назад
murygoat
@sayresrudy2644
@sayresrudy2644 Год назад
(1) “simultaneously at the same time” = painful. (2) his 1984 season was as great as any year of any other player. (3) “the best doubles team in history is John McEnroe and his partner,” old joke goes. (4) it’s a myth that his weird service motion “helped him disguise his target.” (5) he was NOT fit and didn’t practice (where did you get your info?!). but he had what you didn’t mention: stunning balance. 6. nice footage, thx.
@Carlos27thFS
@Carlos27thFS Год назад
7. 82-3 match record. McEnroe lost 3 matches not games.
@sayresrudy2644
@sayresrudy2644 Год назад
@@Carlos27thFS thank you!
@PeterBrown-mz4nv
@PeterBrown-mz4nv 10 месяцев назад
Equals redundancy.
@drjanoshorvath
@drjanoshorvath 10 месяцев назад
Should have inviolved how long he stayed on the tour playing the likes of lendl sampras agassi chang becker
@eshwarmahadevan9276
@eshwarmahadevan9276 Год назад
second
@lawrence1318
@lawrence1318 Год назад
His volleys were overrated. When you come to the net as often as he did, you're bound to hit a lot of good stop volleys simply by virtue of the sheer number of times you're hitting at the net. It's simply a percentage thing. But he fluffed a hell of a lot of volleys.
@paulhefner2813
@paulhefner2813 5 месяцев назад
mcenroe was nothing special. he has some good highlights but i remember his play. it was 70-30. 70 percent excellent and 30 percent erratic. good enough to win majors and one excellent year, but not even close to the bug three.
@aguydvid1370
@aguydvid1370 Год назад
first
@markburnham7512
@markburnham7512 Год назад
I could never get past his emotional immaturity. He just seemed like a spoiled baby who never learned any self-disclipline. But I admit he was way ahead of his time. These days we realise that the end justifies the means and win at all cost is the goal and personal bwhavior does not matter a lick.
@craigallday1236
@craigallday1236 6 месяцев назад
He didn’t have a coach and trained bare minimum 😂
@theroadrunnerjarhead4109
@theroadrunnerjarhead4109 Год назад
McEnroe was a great tennis player but he was a wacko.
@dadsfreetimeclassicgaming1220
Need to do some women
@JustSupposin1
@JustSupposin1 6 месяцев назад
Gimbo was better and more entertaining
@fritzthecat8830
@fritzthecat8830 9 месяцев назад
What a question? Still the best!
@graymcmic1419
@graymcmic1419 2 дня назад
Matches, not Games
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