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How GOOD were Golbat & Crobat ACTUALLY? - History of Golbat & Crobat in Competitive Pokemon 

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GOLBAT & CROBAT! The Bat Pokemon! Is the Crobat evolutionary line as powerful as they are annoying in caves? Join False Swipe Gaming and find out with this brief overview of the competitive History of Golbat & Crobat!
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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Комментарии : 3,2 тыс.   
@petereccleston7022
@petereccleston7022 3 года назад
I remember back in the days of Diamond and Pearl I wanted a crobat in the worse kind of way and I couldn't figure out how to evolve it. So one day, I left all my pokemon behind but me and Golbat and I walked into the distant mountains. For one real life week I trained that Golbat armed with nothing but a bunch of potions and by the end of that week, seeing that Golbat evolve was one of the most beautiful evolutions I had ever seen
@gamingtime9319
@gamingtime9319 2 года назад
i want this to be a movie
@PastryArgenti
@PastryArgenti 2 года назад
Respect
@aknight7642
@aknight7642 2 года назад
Beautiful. Just poetic.
@RalphNation704
@RalphNation704 2 года назад
And powerful
@MrSir-vv5xp
@MrSir-vv5xp 2 года назад
I remember I heard some guy on RU-vid say that Crobat was a good Pokemon so in my platinum run, I caught a Lvl. 5 Zubat, and with Leech Life, Super Sonic, and sheer will power, I got it up to Lvl. 10, gave up, and just caught a Golbat later in my playthrough.
@petrie911
@petrie911 6 лет назад
As someone who was part of the suspect test, Crobat wasn't really banned for being unpredictable in 4th gen UU. It was banned because the set Brave Bird/Taunt/U-Turn/Roost was weirdly unbeatable. Crobat's 4x resistances to Fighting, Grass, and Bug and immunity to Ground and Toxic meant it had no trouble finding chances to switch in, and once it did, it just put a stop to whatever you were doing. Support Pokemon get taunted, defensive Pokemon were a chance to heal, and frail attackers got the Bird, which all worked because nothing was faster than Crobat. The set doesn't look like much, but it was super oppressive to play against.
@matteofaccin6636
@matteofaccin6636 5 лет назад
@Bblurre I'd say max speed and max attack
@butteredsalmonella
@butteredsalmonella 5 лет назад
Woah Crobat Has THREE ×4 resistances!? On an unrelated note, Heatran has Five Quadresists, Bug, Grass, Ice, Steel and Fairy as well as an Immunity to Fire (Flash Fire) and Poison. No wonder Heatran is one of the best mons in competitive.
@degenz2357
@degenz2357 5 лет назад
Poison is a great defensive type
@JovanaSanchez000
@JovanaSanchez000 5 лет назад
@@butteredsalmonella To Grass, Bug, and Fighting. All which recieved better attacks at that point, especially Fighting.
@l3l723
@l3l723 5 лет назад
@@butteredsalmonella I really wish game freak makes a bulky poison - flying
@SageSea1
@SageSea1 5 лет назад
Good god crobats old 3d console models were hideous
@fatfuck2384
@fatfuck2384 5 лет назад
Yea the lower jaw is completely fucked
@Jewgoo
@Jewgoo 4 года назад
I love the size of him in those games. He’s nearly the size of Aerodactyl!
@JJRBones
@JJRBones 4 года назад
Reminds me of Oddworld: Strangers Wrath
@theworld9533
@theworld9533 4 года назад
@@Jewgoo thats actually true crobats a fucken giant its 8ft
@unclephillymya
@unclephillymya 4 года назад
Wtf is that teeth
@2010supersonic
@2010supersonic 6 лет назад
0:58 this is like something you find drawn on the walls of public toilets
@brendanstreecko7847
@brendanstreecko7847 3 года назад
Waaayyy too underrated
@marcdimartino9118
@marcdimartino9118 3 года назад
@@brendanstreecko7847 Yeah
@SirNikurasu
@SirNikurasu 5 лет назад
6:11 jesus, what a picture to tab in on
@RamdozaCh
@RamdozaCh 4 года назад
Terrifyingly Ugly
@riokei1723
@riokei1723 4 года назад
Crobat is my fav pokemon but jesus its ugly in colloseum 2 and battle revolution
@sreenaths6829
@sreenaths6829 4 года назад
😂😂
@bingewatcher4678
@bingewatcher4678 3 года назад
Looks like Batman has become Monster
@glaciveestudios6170
@glaciveestudios6170 3 года назад
Not uglier than Golbats gen 1 sprite
@Darkness2179
@Darkness2179 6 лет назад
I like Golbat's Gen 1 sprite. **runs away**
@ronswanson7371
@ronswanson7371 4 года назад
Darkness *you couldn’t run away*
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 3 года назад
Someone on Smogon forums did a sprite fusion of it and RB Geodude when that was a trend (it was like around Halloween IIRC)... Wish I saved it =/
@yoshiatic2000
@yoshiatic2000 3 года назад
Me too. I wish it kept the tongue :(
@mayo7681
@mayo7681 6 лет назад
Crobat is my favorite pokemon
@sk31et0n_fr
@sk31et0n_fr 4 года назад
Me too
@Tuhmahtoe
@Tuhmahtoe 4 года назад
That makes a lot of sense
@BlueWolfZero
@BlueWolfZero 4 года назад
And Golbat is my least favorite Pokémon.
@BlueWolfZero
@BlueWolfZero 3 года назад
FAIRY TAIL FOR LIFE I hate Golbat more because of Confuse Hax.
@BlueWolfZero
@BlueWolfZero 3 года назад
FAIRY TAIL FOR LIFE It’s a favorite of the Gens 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 evil teams and your rival in the Johto games.
@mcihele
@mcihele 4 года назад
0:35 when i was a child I taught golbat evolved at level 35 because both of the golbats I trainer evolved at that level, lol
@butteredsalmonella
@butteredsalmonella 4 года назад
in X, I caught a shiny Zubat, it evolved into Crobat at level 23. Zubat evolves into Golbat at level 22. (Other note: Korrina was a pushover with him and Doublade)
@snorIaxatives
@snorIaxatives 4 года назад
Takanashi yeah, the only damage Korrina can do to you is Rock Slide on her Machoke if you have a Honedge/Doublade. I just set up 3 Swords Dances, and then spammed Aerial Ace.
@martinprado5133
@martinprado5133 4 года назад
@@snorIaxatives Rock tomb*
@microwave8931
@microwave8931 3 года назад
@@butteredsalmonella damn I struggled on her a lot
@sriansumishra6028
@sriansumishra6028 3 года назад
My golbat evolved at level 23
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 лет назад
There was actually a reason why the sleep talk set was decent (albiet gimicky) in gen 3. In gen 3, when put to sleep, there's a sleep counter that is set imidiately when induced and the counter goes down every turn you stay asleep, but there's a weird glitch that happens with sleep talk in gen 3. If, let's say, the sleep status was going to put crobat to sleep for 4 turns, if you use sleep talk and then switch out, the counter resets. This means if you sleep talk for 3 turns, switch out, switch back in, you can still sleep talk for 3 more turns until you wake up. This also applies to rest as well, which is why Rest/Talk was still a viable option after gen 2, and why these sets pretty much died off after gen 2 and 3. But anyways, This is why this gimmick set exists. You are guaranteed to whirlwind a set amount of times every time Crobat switches in for the rest of the battle given Crobat doesn't faint or accedently wake up. The gamble here was you don't know how many turns your opponent put you to sleep for, so if u wake up on accident before switching, then crobat is essentially useless, which is why it was never used seriously. This is also why some choice band users had sleep talk in gen 3, like Herracross.
@KnightofFunnyJunk
@KnightofFunnyJunk 6 лет назад
This post is all the proof you need that Gamefreak is lazy as fuck and they completely don't pay attention to shit like this See Gen 1 for Instructions.
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 лет назад
KnightofFunnyJunk I'm no programmer, but I'm sure the way they programmed sleep in this game had something to do with the pokemon not attacking. Like maybe there's a counter that updates for sleeping party pokemon and it will only update if they don't attack or something. It's probably not bad programming, just an oversight within it.
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 лет назад
Another thing that I feel like should have been talked about what Hypnosis on Crobat in gen 4. In Diamond, Pearl, and PBR, Hypnosis was, for whatever reason 70% accurate as opposed to 60% in every other generation or games. This was fixed in Platinum and HG/SS (to my knowledge the only fix between the gen ever) but in D/P meta, crobat had a nitch as being the fastest hypnosis user in the game, temporarily giving it enough usage to be OU in the early days of DP. Infact, if you played on console, if the host player is on D/P and playing vs Platinum, it uses the 70% accuracy, but ofc all simulators use the Pt accuracy. Anyways, it was such an important change that really depleted any sort of usage from crobat, as prior to the change, the Nasty Plot set was a force to be reckoned with, and just standard Physical variants could set something to sleep and get switch initiative with U turn as the opponent switched their sleeping pokemon. It honestly was a shame that it was removed for crobats sake, then again I wouldn't want to deal with 70% hypnosis from a gengar either, so I guess it was a good fix.
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 4 года назад
@@KnightofFunnyJunk Could you not show unnecessary hate/bias?
@bigtoblerone8446
@bigtoblerone8446 6 лет назад
Crobat is one of the very few Pokemon dual types to only take 1/4 damage from 3 or more types: FIGHT, GRA, & BUG. And in today's meta game double resisting both fighting and grass is pretty sweet~ What Crobat has always really needed is the elemental Fang moves so it could like abuse physical variant of the boltbeam combo am i rite?
@The_Mister_E
@The_Mister_E 6 лет назад
Big Toblerone Yeah, that would be neat. It even makes sense considering bats are known for their fangs.
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 5 лет назад
The fangs moves are just too weak especially on a Pokemon that isn't strong.
@TheDJGrandPa
@TheDJGrandPa 5 лет назад
Yeah I dont think the fang moves change anything really
@irokosalei5133
@irokosalei5133 5 лет назад
And it's also resistant to Fairy and poison ... not to mention immunity to ground, and against toxic. check out the video "Crobat of destruction" with Confuse ray + Double Team + Toxic + Giga Drain + leftovers ... it's strong.
@blaster.m1943
@blaster.m1943 4 года назад
@@irokosalei5133 that crobat is why we don't see the battle frontier a lot nowadays
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 6 лет назад
Don’t forget the many Infiltrator Eviolite sets for Golbat - it was RU in Smogon because of it, despite it being a pre-evolution
@dreadfury2485
@dreadfury2485 6 лет назад
How good was Dugtrio actually? Considering its ability has historically been super controversial and its Gen 7 singles history is really interesting I think that one would be pretty cool.
@tenBuschhole
@tenBuschhole 6 лет назад
Dugtrio would really be interesting, with it's high crit ratio in gen1 and the -admittedly gimmicky- combo with durant.
@godlordgodlord2283
@godlordgodlord2283 6 лет назад
Please do kangaskhan
@godlordgodlord2283
@godlordgodlord2283 6 лет назад
False swipe gaming please do how good was kangaskhan
@ianluk6385
@ianluk6385 6 лет назад
I feel like it would be pretty much like magnezone, trapping and killing electric types except for Zapdos and Jolteon (assuming the Jolteon predicted right)
@oranganewton
@oranganewton 6 лет назад
Look up Cancer Stall and Double Defog Stall teams, dugtrio is awesome
@briandimaano6387
@briandimaano6387 3 года назад
0:57 that reaction to Golbat's sprite has me weak 😂
@777-uploader5
@777-uploader5 5 лет назад
I love crobat. Its fast, can poison and confuse its enemies and he looks badass. 👍 sorry for my english i dont know if its correct😂
@TheJebusCheese
@TheJebusCheese 4 года назад
Crobat put the entire world in lockdown, Sounds overpowered to me, ubers
@hulias3107
@hulias3107 3 года назад
I named my crobat «corona»
@frenchball1311
@frenchball1311 3 года назад
@@hulias3107 u cant Well i named it cobonavirus
@emperorhirohito4435
@emperorhirohito4435 3 года назад
@@hulias3107 actually it was not confirmed that the bat was the cause of covid19 I bet that it was man made
@hulias3107
@hulias3107 3 года назад
@@emperorhirohito4435 Your stupidity made me lose brain cells
@emperorhirohito4435
@emperorhirohito4435 3 года назад
@@hulias3107 dude yes they said it was from bats but I'd it really true that it was or they are trying to cover up the truth have you ever think of that
@X-V1L3
@X-V1L3 6 лет назад
"and even hypno, DESTROYED It." Hypno had a 115 special in gen 1, so... OHKO is guaranteed.
@louissejosephcarino1569
@louissejosephcarino1569 3 года назад
and spoiler alert hypno wasn't good or great it was just bad. outclassed by every single psychic pokemon, and even venomoth, a bug that is weak to hypno, destroyed it with its powrful stab bug moves even yanma, scizor,scyther. and do not forget, umbreon also destroys it with its stab move dark pulse it received in gen 2. so there are a lot of psychic mons to use over hypno, so hypno is bad, but mediocre.
@unmployedvillager7341
@unmployedvillager7341 3 года назад
@@louissejosephcarino1569 the comment is talking about gen 1 and you are talking about gen2+
@ActualTrash8
@ActualTrash8 3 года назад
@@louissejosephcarino1569 wow it was almost like they were talking about gen 1
@ActualTrash8
@ActualTrash8 3 года назад
@@louissejosephcarino1569 also that final line “so hypno is bad, but mediocre” what
@sriansumishra6028
@sriansumishra6028 3 года назад
I think crobat knows crunch for coverage.
@togemon4707
@togemon4707 6 лет назад
I always saw your videos on my recommended long time ago and I just clicked at one. No regrets, it's really good i wish i knew before :(
@vantaplat7411
@vantaplat7411 6 лет назад
Clicked *at* one?
@stshark3769
@stshark3769 6 лет назад
Togemon XD same
@luisagerenaldo8294
@luisagerenaldo8294 5 лет назад
My first ever shiny was a Golbat that I caught on my Pearl and I still have it, but now it lives on my UltraSun and enjoy the sun of alola and fairies to destroy them😊
@richardgonzalez6493
@richardgonzalez6493 4 года назад
Luisa Gerenaldo i had a shiny goldbat on the emerald version, best day ever :(
@xyzzy-dv6te
@xyzzy-dv6te 4 года назад
I caught a shiny Golbat in Turnback Cave on Platinum
@matthinton19
@matthinton19 5 лет назад
I know very few people tend to like golbat but it is honestly one of my favorite pokemon. Such a difference from its first form and fun to play, I never played competitively though. Liked crobat at first but tend to keep an ever stone in golbat if I can
@DesmondShannon87
@DesmondShannon87 5 лет назад
You KNOW your Pokemon is ugh-ly if FSG switched your red and blue sprite with yellow
@chorennator
@chorennator 6 лет назад
Honestly? I'd Love To See You Do A Mini-Marathon where you Do Your fave Pokemon of Each Gen.
@botaniccal
@botaniccal 6 лет назад
How good was Wobbuffet ACTUALLY? UU to Ubers to PU in its lifespan, I wanna hear that story
@thereaIitsybitsyspider
@thereaIitsybitsyspider 6 лет назад
i want himiko to stab me in the urethra No Shadow Tag -> Shadow Tag -> Banned Shadow Tag + power creep
@pantherman691
@pantherman691 6 лет назад
wooooobbuuuuffeet
@fist-of-doom487
@fist-of-doom487 6 лет назад
The thing was meant to be a wall and get hit, it could take so much punishment and throw it back, sometimes twice as hard. Didn’t it get banned because of that? It couldn’t go on the offensive and it was a waiting game Pokémon so their battles could last a really long time sometimes.
@grassfish01
@grassfish01 6 лет назад
Technically, Wobbuffet is still in Ubers (Shadow Tag is banned in Smogon)
@thereaIitsybitsyspider
@thereaIitsybitsyspider 6 лет назад
Fist-of-doom It was due to Shadow tag preventing switches to things that could easily deal with Wobbuffet. It was a lot harder to deal with before the physical/special, which brought more mixed attackers, and power creep, which brought a ton of things that could safely remove it.
@mrmusashi
@mrmusashi 2 года назад
I'm a bit biased since I love Crobat, but I wish this video could get remade with the newer videos' mindset of taking tiers as they come and praising the abilities of the Pokemon in said tiers. There's nothing to be ashamed of being a UU, RU or NU Pokemon if you excel in there. If I could wish for anything, it's that GF could create specific OU niches for every Pokemon out there. But that's the realm for a creative and inspired trainer!!
@ssilva872
@ssilva872 6 лет назад
Great analysis. Just found your channel so now have a lot of stuff to watch. I really like all the clips from Pokemon Stadium/Colosseum/etc
@dragooncroft
@dragooncroft 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Seadra/Kingdra ACTUALLY? WE NEED THIS.
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 6 лет назад
lol we don't anytime soon. Its such a boring mon.
@adamgarrett7209
@adamgarrett7209 6 лет назад
Yes, I'm so glad someone else wants these two.
@louissejosephcarino1569
@louissejosephcarino1569 3 года назад
@@NeroAngelo616seadra sucks, kingdra was ok, its movepool got better.
@danieleconvertini4996
@danieleconvertini4996 6 лет назад
I loved it how crobat survived tyranitars rock slide at 8:44. He doesn't look bulky, but he can survive some pretty big hit. For example I used it in soul silver against blue's and bruno's machamps, he survived their stone edges and killed them afterwards, and no he wasn't overleveled. He is a freaking fast puny tank!
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 9 месяцев назад
Damn, I Keep forgetting how good crobat is
@DareDB
@DareDB 6 лет назад
I've been binging your videos in the last few weeks, and I hope you do the Porygon line next. Especially since Eviolite makes that line very interesting across the generations. Keep up the great work!
@linkuriboh471
@linkuriboh471 2 года назад
Crobat really needs an buff in its base 90 attack stat. It's been a while since I played the Battle Frontier, but Crobat really helped me out. Its base 130 speed stat came in handy. Plus it has STAB Aerial Ace and it's immune to Toxic. It's hard to believe that it's roughly the same size as Hydreigon.
@stevenurena639
@stevenurena639 6 лет назад
Can we please get magneton and magnezone?
@lindahernandez1729
@lindahernandez1729 6 лет назад
Berry Pronch Good idea!
@rggrill3588
@rggrill3588 6 лет назад
I agree
@captainrex717
@captainrex717 6 лет назад
YEA. They're one of the most consistent OU lines to date
@peppermintzoro4907
@peppermintzoro4907 6 лет назад
I want that too
@lcyphah
@lcyphah 6 лет назад
We want thoseeee
@TheUnknownOtaku
@TheUnknownOtaku 6 лет назад
How GOOD was False Swipe Gaming ACTUALLY? I have a feeling he was OP.
@mrinfinity5557
@mrinfinity5557 6 лет назад
Strawhatya hey, how about you go away if you dont like what he does. or better yet, do this yourself and do better, since its SO easy to do like you just said. we don't want your negativity around here.
@reveriestyx2133
@reveriestyx2133 6 лет назад
Strawhatya I honestly can't tell whether you're actually upset with his content and you're trying to help him improve or you're just mad that his content wasn't made specifically for you
@_vez
@_vez 6 лет назад
Strawhatya someone is salty for no reason
@Jcend
@Jcend 6 лет назад
Strawhatya It's often seen as childish to cus
@evanz7839
@evanz7839 6 лет назад
Strawhatya Aw, does baby need his bottle?
@Eldred91
@Eldred91 6 лет назад
Magneton & Magnezone would be cool to see next. Great job with all of these videos btw, they've become one of my weekly highlights! I really appreciate the fact that you're so consistent in your release schedule.
@toastofcatbread3207
@toastofcatbread3207 6 лет назад
I just found your channel, and even though I hardly play Pokemon anymore, this is still very interesting. Keep up the good work!
@iamaduck1966
@iamaduck1966 6 лет назад
How about the Porygon line next week?
@felixlee9645
@felixlee9645 6 лет назад
I Am A Duck oh heck no. He's gonna do tentacruel!!!!!!
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike 6 лет назад
I want the Tangela line myself
@paint0772
@paint0772 6 лет назад
fuck yeah do that.
@dotteduelist07
@dotteduelist07 6 лет назад
Yes this must happen
@doloreschansey9556
@doloreschansey9556 4 года назад
In dual battles, Crobat is good if you have it hold a bitter berry and use an ally to Swagger it, and teach it Brick Break and Leech Life; in the newer versions, they raised the power to 60; or X-Scissor. With a +2 attack stat, it is really good.
@KoiandDragon
@KoiandDragon 6 лет назад
I love Crobat. Especially in gen 6. Choice banded BraveBird and U-Turn was always shocking and devastating
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 3 года назад
Since Crobat is returning in SWSH’s next DLC, I really hope it’s at least good in UU as well as getting decent VGC usage.
@rjbautista9971
@rjbautista9971 3 года назад
Slightly better than Talonflame
@actofcawd209
@actofcawd209 3 года назад
well Crobat was good until a few weeks after it came in SwSh, then it fell to RU.
@louissejosephcarino1569
@louissejosephcarino1569 3 года назад
@@rjbautista9971 talonflame was mediocre.
@yeahmike3847
@yeahmike3847 3 года назад
@@actofcawd209 what makes it bad?
@actofcawd209
@actofcawd209 3 года назад
@@yeahmike3847 Well I thought power creep messed it up, but I think Crobat improved a lot since a year ago.
@spyro_23
@spyro_23 6 лет назад
How good was onix+ steelix
@TheNorth15
@TheNorth15 6 лет назад
Do Typhlosion, Meganium, and Feraligatr before moving on to Generation 3! You should always do the generations starters final evolutions before moving on to the next generation!
@viscero6448
@viscero6448 6 лет назад
Feraligatr is UU/RU/NU Meganium is BL/UU/NU/PU Typhlosion is BL/RU/NU To be honest, none of the Gen 2 starters were remotely close to being viable for competitive . They were simply outclassed by every pokemon of their type and of their role. They all have low speed, terrible move pools, and have generally less to offer than most common pokemon. Feraligatr is easily replaced by other Water sweepers like Gyarados, Meganium by Venusaur in its own generation, Tangrowth, Gourgeist, and Quilladin in others, Typhlosion by Charizard, Delphox, Magmortar. Gen 2 starters were probably the weakest starters to have in any generation.
@marcelomarcelo514
@marcelomarcelo514 6 лет назад
gen 2 starters where like gen 1 starters, but worse, much worse
@TheNorth15
@TheNorth15 6 лет назад
+Marcelo Marcelo Nope not really. They all had good strengths and weaknesses. You had the incredibly strong but predictable Typhlosion with it's limited moveset. You had the overpowered sheer force/dragon dance Feraligatr paired with a life orb that loses it's recoil effects. Than there's Meganium, which can either be used as a cleric support or a sword dancing tank that is kind of the sticky glue that holds the team together. Meganium is probably the weakest on the offensive side but is certainly not useless thanks to it's strong access of support moves. On the other hand, I think we can all agree that all three starters definitely need a huge update to there movepool. Or at least give them a signature move to work with.
@oles9196
@oles9196 6 лет назад
Gen 2 Starters have potential but their stats and movepools are not good. Im not the mainstream guy who just hates them cauz of bad tiers and honestly I love to use Meganium and Typhlosion. I hate Feraligatr cauz its only strengh is that it can ice punch Grass Types but there arent much Water types that cant use Ice moves anyway. The Problem about the rest is the same as the one of Golbat cauz they are alll real allrounders but they break themself because of it. Meganium has good coverage (Earthquake and ancient power) but it isnt physical and it isnt special and its moves are very mixed too. So you cant really play a Physical or special Meganium. And all allrounders are bad for EV training cauz you have to cover many stats and you arent allowed to max just 2 to have outstanding stats. You can play eviolite Bayleef but than it loses important coverage and you can play assault vest on it for more bulk and better Ev training or you can make it just bulky with EVs and give it left-overs to put set ups and toxic on it. Typhlosion has the same EV and stat problems and its very mixed too.
@TheNorth15
@TheNorth15 6 лет назад
I don't know about you guys but here's my ideas for some Mega Evolutions to improve the Johto starters. Mega Meganium - Grass/Fairy type - Multiscale - Fairy type is a no brainer and Meganium is meant to be tanky so Multiscale would be perfect. Maybe a increase of Attack/Sp. Attack from 80 to a 100. Mega Typhlosion - Fire/Psychic type - Magic Guard - Psychic type, for those who don't know this, is possibly Typhlosion's second most recognizable related type because of two things. Typhlosion is one of the few non-psychic type Pokemon that has access to extrasensory and Typhlosion actually has a Psychic regional variant long before Alolan variants showed up. It's called Delta Species from the Pokemon TCG and Typhlosion's alternate typing was Psychic. Plus Psychic/Fire typing sounds pretty badass other than Delphox. Mega Feraligatr - Water/Dark type - Sheer Force - Feraligatr already works well with sheer force, so he doesn't actually need any further improvements except maybe bulk.
@dannigro8794
@dannigro8794 3 года назад
Crobat was a fantastic Pokémon. Made Zubat worthwhile
@cobalt7248
@cobalt7248 3 года назад
Ikr!
@leojamesquiambao1047
@leojamesquiambao1047 2 года назад
yep. Almost feels as if GF rewarded you for bothering to catch one of those flying pests lol
@snailfgc
@snailfgc 5 лет назад
Somehow in gen 7 nu, golbat exists. It was banned from PU somehow.
@FireboltPrime
@FireboltPrime 5 лет назад
Leech life
@kanibelazy0585
@kanibelazy0585 5 лет назад
Wonders of Eviolite
@hat5724
@hat5724 6 лет назад
Could you please do How good was Misdreavus and Mismagius actually
@davidalves6592
@davidalves6592 6 лет назад
I actually love crobat. I played Ruby alot, and I always had a crobat with my Swampert. It as like the super duo.
@explosivedolphinz8710
@explosivedolphinz8710 6 лет назад
Nice video dude, been with u since ur first video and you're growing fast, maybe up the number of uploads per week, and maybe for 100k do a huge special with the first 3 eeveelutions in one video?
@bigslappy823
@bigslappy823 3 года назад
6:11 I listen to these on my work commutes and this is what I see when I look down. Thanks for that mental scar, FSG.
@psyplat7184
@psyplat7184 6 лет назад
How good was Houndoom?
@Bleachc15
@Bleachc15 6 лет назад
YES D;
@chexkers4212
@chexkers4212 5 лет назад
You always seem to talk about electrode’s speed... So... How GOOD was Electrode ACTUALLY?!
@alexandradordzhieva3835
@alexandradordzhieva3835 4 года назад
yes
@Leo-nm1ne
@Leo-nm1ne 4 года назад
Electrode is one of the worst most forgettable pokemon in pu
@connivingkhajiit
@connivingkhajiit 3 года назад
Still waiting on this
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 3 года назад
Its signature is exploding... Which it's absolutely laughable, unless it's gen 1 and crithaxes you then might be cause for some concern
@louissejosephcarino1569
@louissejosephcarino1569 3 года назад
@Sewon BANG fsg said, it was overshadowed by a lot of electric types
@OriginalGold
@OriginalGold 6 лет назад
I have been here since the channel was just beginning. The videos have gotten a LOT better! (not to say the videos used to be bad).
@videogamer678
@videogamer678 6 лет назад
I don't even play Pokémon competively, these video are just fascinating insight into the history of Pokémon and I enjoy watching them to see how certain monsters did.
@finewinedaily4997
@finewinedaily4997 6 лет назад
A whole video on the competitive history of Unown would be amazing.
@footballstats9127
@footballstats9127 6 лет назад
gen 1 OU original Exeggutor
@aareenjadhav8484
@aareenjadhav8484 5 лет назад
I remember having a crobat in black 2 and my set was awesome (fly, poison fang (badly poison), protect , and roost) and had black sludge and I could heal with protect and fly black sludge and cripple with toxic from poison fang
@risualeo
@risualeo 6 лет назад
It would be great a video about Azumarill! Love your videos, keep it up!
@tobenamedlater1672
@tobenamedlater1672 6 лет назад
How good was entei/suicune/raiku
@henrymildenstein81
@henrymildenstein81 6 лет назад
Bad good good.
@Wizard_Lizard_
@Wizard_Lizard_ 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Slowbro ACTUALLY?
@akshaysureshchander3385
@akshaysureshchander3385 6 лет назад
2:08 Hypno trying to dab there!!
@MrNtlman
@MrNtlman 6 лет назад
Confuseray/ Super Fang/Bravebird/ Roost was one of my favorite sets in gen 6 and swept quite a few teams in its run before gen 7 nerfed confusion
@Dampharos
@Dampharos 6 лет назад
how GOOD was slowbro and slowking ACTUALLY?
@dogpaws
@dogpaws 6 лет назад
Dampharos !!! I agree!
@budusantudor2710
@budusantudor2710 6 лет назад
Dampharos !!! they are different so he should do 2 videos
@marcelomarcelo514
@marcelomarcelo514 6 лет назад
we need them already
@madmaniggy45
@madmaniggy45 6 лет назад
How good was Slowbro or Magneton plz.
@grumbus4252
@grumbus4252 6 лет назад
S L O W B R O pls
@carlosalex1174
@carlosalex1174 6 лет назад
Magneton
@B.I.N.G.O007
@B.I.N.G.O007 6 лет назад
Magneton was always great my number 1 favorite pokemon
@TelvanniGuard
@TelvanniGuard 6 лет назад
Magneton is due for a video.
@B.I.N.G.O007
@B.I.N.G.O007 6 лет назад
YEEESSSS
@nicolaswhitehouse3894
@nicolaswhitehouse3894 3 года назад
I wish it had cross chop as a decent fighting move to stop heatran or other decent Pokémon. Plus it makes sense that he could learn cross chop lol
@midnightwish_
@midnightwish_ 6 лет назад
thanks for doing my recommendation ! :)
@mckerosine3134
@mckerosine3134 6 лет назад
I really wanna see the hitmons 😀
@RinRinStrikes
@RinRinStrikes 6 лет назад
MC Kerosine hitmochan's story is sad since it had the elemental punches but in Gen 1-3 the elemental punches were special and Chan had a terrible special
@skycrimestv7165
@skycrimestv7165 6 лет назад
Terrible. You're welcome. I saved you the request.
@jacobhines3517
@jacobhines3517 6 лет назад
MC Kerosine j (Kkkkkkii*88oooii888
@IndicaEuphora
@IndicaEuphora 6 лет назад
You covered the 3 birds of Kanto, now cover the 3 beasts of Johto!
@voidfields5065
@voidfields5065 6 лет назад
IndicaEuphora I thought that said johto birds and I was going to scream because I didn't think there were three but you said beasts so we good I'm not stupid maybe
@InvyKing
@InvyKing 6 лет назад
BLARG I love your videos man, how good was Typhlosion?! I'm wondering about some Gen 2 starters now!!
@foreversevenfold1666
@foreversevenfold1666 6 лет назад
I remember when I first evolved a crobat! I was using a golbat while chasing Suicune in fire red since it could learn mean look and all that time in the front of my party got it to evolve!
@hex6606
@hex6606 6 лет назад
how good were the eevee evolutions ACTUALLY?
@stormpikelumi3191
@stormpikelumi3191 6 лет назад
Jolteon: Pretty good Vaporeon: Pretty good Flareon: Trash Espeon: Ok Umbreon: Annoying Leafeon: Mediocre Glaceon: Trash Sylveon: Pretty good1
@PharmDiff
@PharmDiff 6 лет назад
You'd have to do them individually, there's so much variance. (Except maybe Leafeon and Glaceon, always been trash.)
@hex6606
@hex6606 6 лет назад
Stormpike Lumi exactly what I thought
@hex6606
@hex6606 6 лет назад
lherrebout I would most likely just want the original 3 to be reviewed. And maybe umbreon and espeon
@madmaniggy45
@madmaniggy45 6 лет назад
TCH I feel like that would make a good 100k sub special.
@foghurst6003
@foghurst6003 6 лет назад
Can we get some Magneton/Magnezone now?
@sadweedle6832
@sadweedle6832 6 лет назад
yes
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 6 лет назад
I have some fond memories of using it with Toxic, Dark Pulse, Air Slash, and Shadow Ball, probably not of any use for competitive, but definitely a very fun lineup.
@IrrelevantOaf
@IrrelevantOaf 6 лет назад
Great video! How about Slowbro next?
@SkorpTS
@SkorpTS 6 лет назад
I think it's time to break into Gen 3. How about some Breloom action?
@GenmuLVLX
@GenmuLVLX 6 лет назад
How good was pinsir?
@PikachuFan-yw6vp
@PikachuFan-yw6vp 6 лет назад
He already made that...
@sebastianmazza1
@sebastianmazza1 6 лет назад
Ask Haydunn, he's proof its awesome
@GenmuLVLX
@GenmuLVLX 6 лет назад
Sebastian Mazza who's haydunn?
@trofulds
@trofulds 6 лет назад
Hot garbage until Gen 6 where he became one of the most dangerous killing machines because of its Mega Evolution
@zacharyfreeman8579
@zacharyfreeman8579 4 года назад
My first crobat was in Sun and he was a staple of my team and helped make sure I didn't lose a battle untill after the Elite 4.
@nikhilaparajit2600
@nikhilaparajit2600 6 лет назад
Please do the tyrogue evolution line...pleaaase And I love your channel by the way
@zlPoplz
@zlPoplz 6 лет назад
How good was slowbro pleaseee!
@pantherman691
@pantherman691 6 лет назад
Popeyez Gamer and raichu and pikachu
@gkguido055
@gkguido055 6 лет назад
In Gen 1: pretty darn defensive. With base 95HP, 110 Defense and a Special stat of 80, AND Amnesia being a thing raising both special attack and special defense back in gen 1, it was pretty good in that part
@car8740
@car8740 6 лет назад
Slowbro and slowking please
@PumPuum
@PumPuum 6 лет назад
No eviolite Golbat?
@Hobbes2
@Hobbes2 6 лет назад
Yeah for these videos where the unevolved Pokemon ends up being viable in lower tiers with eviolite a quick mention would be pretty nice.
@linusoonks
@linusoonks 6 лет назад
This vid is so sad now without golbat given that it could venom drench too
@qwilliams1539
@qwilliams1539 6 лет назад
Agreed, it should have been mentioned. Even if it was just something like: Golbat got Eviolite in Gen 5, but do to its terrible offensive capabilities, just imagine the supportive Crobat set, but 1 tier lower.
@snakesmokin4004
@snakesmokin4004 6 лет назад
+Qwilliams he did crobat due to him bieng better than golbat and he did it in his chansey and blissey video he said he will only do one of them depending which one did better in a certian generarion
@qwilliams1539
@qwilliams1539 6 лет назад
Good catch. Completely forgot that. Chansey and Blissey were both done because they both were excellent at their stalling job. Makes sense why he only did Rhyperior starting in gen 4 for that video.
@oldoldmeidanrrustemi8458
@oldoldmeidanrrustemi8458 6 лет назад
I ALWAYS use crobat in my teams, all of my teams, from gen 1 to gen 5 (when i stopped playing) and i loved him
@DarkJustin87
@DarkJustin87 4 года назад
Except Crobat was introduced in Gen 2
@theconmantube3449
@theconmantube3449 4 года назад
CalimityJay973 golbat then smartass
@christopherumbach9178
@christopherumbach9178 3 года назад
I once used in my OU gen 7 team to reach top 30 on Showdown nobody expected it, so it had quite the surpirse factor halving heatrans Hp was really good vor my Lele and Mega Alakazam
@yeahmike3847
@yeahmike3847 3 года назад
I am trying a bulky variant with max special defense and it’s actually working well. It can tank 2 zapdos thunderbolts and hit zapdos back with super fang+poision fang for toxic damage. It’s a bit of a suicide Pokémon, but it gets the job done
@1cioda
@1cioda 3 года назад
Whenever i play a game with Crobat and Skarmory, I'm always stuck tossing a coin as to which i will keep as my flying pokemon. Both are so good. But its not a good idea to have both. Haha
@punkguyjax420
@punkguyjax420 6 лет назад
3:49 "Sludge Bob" lmao
@Haydenrwyatt
@Haydenrwyatt 6 месяцев назад
I feel in love with the Crobat line when I had one in my last platinum playthrough, 1 literally had a garchomp and gardevoir on my team and ace (crobat) still wiped the floor with everyone and I took him to a friendship rater and he said something like “Your crobat is grateful you took a chance on it, most people pass them up” and I nearly cried cause I know exactly how he felt, I catch a zubat every chance I get. I miss you ace
@Motorboatasaurus
@Motorboatasaurus 6 лет назад
I think a cool idea would be to go thru the top 3 pokemon by type in each generation. Like the top 3 rock types or electric and so on. That way we can see some of the newer pokemon without the video being incredibly short.
@hatatehimekaidoutheemoteng3791
@hatatehimekaidoutheemoteng3791 4 года назад
6:10 Imagine if Crobat was real and it will stab it's sharp fangs into our flesh not only draining blood but causing many infections that would be horrifying.
@smokey3504
@smokey3504 3 года назад
Personally I prefer Golbat. You don't see many eviolite pokemon with usable speed (or a reliable recovery move). I play mine as a poison Mandibuzz - toxic, roost, taunt, full speed investment, etc.
@CyborgForgael
@CyborgForgael 6 лет назад
Raichu is my favorite pokemon, so I'm interested in seeing a guide on that one!
@cosmicducky1
@cosmicducky1 6 лет назад
New logo love it
@TheBfutgreg
@TheBfutgreg 5 лет назад
I unironically like Golbat's R/B sprite, along with Arcanine and Blastoise
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 3 года назад
How about Exeggcute AND Exeggutor?
@InfidentHero
@InfidentHero 6 лет назад
Crobat is such a cool Pokemon, makes me happy to have zubats on nuzlocks
@relevantspongebobquote7413
@relevantspongebobquote7413 4 года назад
“And I thought this friendship would never pay off!”
@krystallinekris
@krystallinekris 3 года назад
I'm actually curious about you talking about Golbat in lower tiers like PU in gen 6 / 7, since it got Roost, Defog, 4x defenses, decent base 90 speed (for a defensive mon) and most importantly, Eviolite, so it could actually make use of those awesome resistances.
@catella5992
@catella5992 6 лет назад
AZUMARIL
@jules..-
@jules..- 6 лет назад
What about Onix/Steelix?
@fade6355
@fade6355 4 года назад
At least it's looks improved significantantly over the years.
@theworld9533
@theworld9533 4 года назад
Zubat has earned the pokemon communities "favorite nuisance"
@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 6 лет назад
how GOOD was Clefable!? Yes i'm still here! It will come one day DX
@Charles-iw8qf
@Charles-iw8qf 6 лет назад
Suika Ibuki it was total garbage until 6 generation.
@edmondh9977
@edmondh9977 6 лет назад
well to be fair, it kept getting new toys every generation like soft boiled and magic guard so it periodically got better and better.
@lyconxero457
@lyconxero457 6 лет назад
If Crobat had a good 20 more points in its attack stat it would actually be pretty awesome given its versatility. I love fast Pokemon and Crobat became one of my favorites in gen 6 and beyond because it can learn some good moves and having a fast poison-type comes in handy with all the fairies running rampant. I especially like that in gen 7 they buffed Leech Life which gives it a great move to kill Dark and Psychic types with while also giving it a bit of sustain.
@TheManKitty
@TheManKitty 6 лет назад
Would it be possible to get a video on Togetic/Togekiss? It seems like an interesting enough Pokemon to investigate its history on.
@CryoDagger
@CryoDagger 6 лет назад
I don't know what they were thinking when they made the golbat sprite for red/blue. So glad they updated it in yellow.
@doubleace11554
@doubleace11554 6 лет назад
3:37 F*cking Pikachu was better than Crobat
@pokemon5life167
@pokemon5life167 5 лет назад
So was VENOMOTH
@horricule451
@horricule451 5 лет назад
Two words: light ball
@williamhuynh869
@williamhuynh869 4 года назад
@@horricule451 nice to see that pikachu was viable somewhere.
@usernametaken017
@usernametaken017 3 года назад
Hes with blastoid. Light ball is op
@trollegeeldritchlordofhorr4461
@trollegeeldritchlordofhorr4461 3 года назад
I mean it's easier to slide it inside s rat than inside a flying bat
@ronk7208
@ronk7208 6 лет назад
Do kingler next please
@watergaming7543
@watergaming7543 6 лет назад
And to quote a youtube personality "go home Golbat you're drunk" I love that quote so much XD
@manicdaydream8693
@manicdaydream8693 5 лет назад
Something I had on my acrobat during OR/AS I gave it poison fang because of the poison and venoshock it also had wing attack and roost
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