Do they not have heating at the 4562 floor? that's seems pretty dumb since they knew it would be cold up there. Didn't think that one through very well did ya mate. Maybe actually think first next time. just saying... saves people like me taking the piss out of a dumb comment .
30 million people housed, never having to leave,. Sounds like a luxurious prison, or a grand social experiment. Reminds me of the space ship on Wall-E.
The vast majority of ppl rarely leave their town on a daily basis. Most ppl shop, work, and live all within a few miles, and only leave for road trips or vacations
@@sh969 Exactly, it would be like being born in New York and never leaving the city. I know guys in San Diego that have never been farther than 12 miles away from where they were born they were just in San Diego all their lives.
It's a bit like saying that you never have to leave the city you live in. Which most people don't do on a regular basis. You have to remember that anything past X-Seed 4000 isn't a "building." It's a vertical city.
@@xordux7 yeah but phones and aircraft are extremely useful in the modern world. There is no reason to build any of this. The costs far outweigh the benefits. They're environmental nightmares, logistical nightmares, safety nightmares, etc. and they don't bring in much to benefit their nations. Towers like these are nothing but cash grabs and useless dick measuring contests by countries and companies who feel power and stature on the world stage is determined by whoever has the biggest most wasteful glass cuboid. They don't improve much of their country or city either if at all. In short, they're inefficient and have limited practical use.
@@shukriwafiq5220 'never gonna happen?" hahaha that sounds like what a man would say from years 1400s-1600s ago. just look at the achievements of mankind now in terms of infrastructures and technology, just imagine how it would evolve for the next 100 or 500 years, or 1000 years, just imagine. and then here you are saying that just a mere 4km skyscraper would never happen. LOL
very interesting how the taller the building, the earlier its idea was constructed. Almost like we know as time goes on how unrealistic (and mostly pointless) these projects are.
Anything about reaching space isn't pointless and its technically doable. However, its not really a building. I know one thing, if the space elevator is ever built, I'm not going.
@@Otzkar that's not true. Even though in some parts countries build skyscrapers just to show off, most of the time it's because of lack of space. If you have millions of people living in a small city and you cant expand outwards, you make more living space by expanding UPwards. that's why cities such as japan and china have tons of skyscrapers, due to the huge population.
If they have built a space elevator they would have built a system to deal with such issues. Considering that the space elevator is in itself would be a engineering marvel.
Yea, or when you’re at the top and then an alien wants to get on, so u quickly press the ‘close door’ button, and pretend it was just the elevator, bad timing. They can catch the next one.
"The Japanese economy crashed so it never saw the light of day" "it would cost $306 trillion dollars" LMAOO the entire japanese gdp per year is 5 trillion.
Well, Japan's economy last I checked still hasn't fully recovered from that crash. In an alternate reality where their economy continued to flourish, it might have been *partially* doable.
@@thetimelords911 I don’t think there’s any timeline where they could pay for it, or anyone for that matter. You would need so many investors from around the world that would never see any return on their money as it would take 150 years to build. You would need over 2 trillion dollars a year for 150 years, it’s just basically impossible
Yeah I can't believe after they recovered economically that Japan doesn't want to spend more than 3 times the entire world's GDP on one building.... whole video was stupid only building that gas the potential to see the light of day is the space elevator due to the utility which would change space travel. And even of they figure that one out probably won't happen for a very long time.
What do you mean the Japanese economy crashed and the building never saw the light of day? For a 10 km tall building, the damn foundations alone would take decades to prepare. By the time the building was finished, the foundations and lower floors would be beyond obsolete. Going up that building would literally be a time travel through evolution. Can you imagine? Floor 200, 8K holograms. Floor 400, ran by a super AI. Floor 600? Pocket teleportation pad.
Reminds me of the European cathedrals that took centuries to complete. It took so long that the windows at one end of the building looked completely different to the other, simply because architectural styles had changed in the meantime.
Actually the air is fine at this hight, at last if you are used to it. So if the wind isn‘t a problem you should be fine to open the window, if you have warm cloths and are able to close it if you start to suffocate😂
@@ozymandias8523 exactly the only times they do is for a trip or maybe groceries if thats out of town and the x seed is bigger than most towns so if this is a prison than why is a normal town not? Is that just because there isnt a roof?
@@samisikdar5417 ye that too they only said everything necessary like schools and clothing and groceries are there so you dont need to leave but if you just wanna go outside or visit family than thats more than possible
A friend's dad was asked to consult on the feasibility of building a mile high building in Germany in the 80s. While the German engineers found it possible to make the structure stable and buildable. However, the elevators would be so inconvenient even with express cars running to the upper levels. Too many car changes at the different levels to get to the top.
The 10 kilometer high building would have to be hermetically sealed and supplied with oxygen because at that height there simply isn't enough oxygen in the air to sustain life.
wrong an aeroplane doesn't provide o2 to the passengers. many people climb Everest without o2 support. the problem is simply that that high the blood will evaporate from the human body.... not the lack of o2.
Obviously nobody here has bothered to picked up a bible , mocking God worked really well the first time , maybe he'll have a change of heart this time .The tower was 1.5 miles wide by 3.5 miles long .Built somewere between the Euphrates and Tigeris rivers in Iraq. They worked on it for 47 years and were going for 2 miles in hight ,was only about 1.5 miles high before God blew on it, knocking it over for mocking him the first time...
Burj Kalifa: Cool apartment building X-Seed: Dystopian nightmare waiting to happen Japan Tower of Babel: Even bigger dystopian nightmare waiting to happen Space Loop: I don't even know how tf you would build this Space elevator: How is this not easily destroyed by stray space debris?
@@blitheringrando1410 it might cost a lot but I doubt anyone who can afford it would want to live somewhere like that. They would probably end filled with poor people while richer people have nice houses or live in small apartment buildings and get the luxury of being able to go outside. Then the owner of the building can no longer afford to look after it as the rent is so low and it would turn into very unsafe slums.
Would the space elevator affect the rotation of the Earth? I know it's really thin so relatively light compared to the entire Earth, but when it sticks out that much...
"The X-Seed 4000 "is never meant to be built," says Georges Binder, managing director of Buildings & Data, a firm which compiles data banks on buildings worldwide. "The purpose of the plan was to earn some recognition for the firm, and it worked." Again.
What is theorized is way too much than what we achieve... Remember we were told in 2000's that in 2020 there will be flying taxis, nobody will drive on roads. And here we are still figuring out how to fight covid
@@iota5722 that is my point that we theorize too much, without realizing how much time it will take to make such a product economically feasible. For example even we can create antimatter, but it takes $62 trillion to create one gram of antimatter. But these videos just show that we will be making 1 kg antimatter per day from next year 🤣
@@ankur9809 thats how human brain works people learn to setup Martian colonies and set martian Constitution before even having idea to go on Mars. Thats how dreams work. That dream is only thing that motivates people to achieve impossible. We are not even on the mars and we have dreams to in galaxy of alpha centurai
To be honest, the ones beyond X-Seed 4000 is most likely impossible, since they're definitely gonna require a lot of resources in man power, finance, and resources. So the most realistic one that's not really a thing yet will be X-seed, but I doubt it'll be build on Japan soil, since Japan is quite populated and mountainous, and also the fact that there is more tsunamis and earthquakes to consider.
The space elevator is plausible as well. Although it wouldn't exactly be useful right now, a similar structure would be of great use in the future. The X-Seed, even with it's high price would be a great way to counter over population. It should be able to accommodate up to 1,000,000 residents with a base only 6 kilometers wide, giving it a population density of ~73,000 people per square mile, which is nearly 3x that of NYC. Additionally, the average cost to construct a city is ~$500,000 per citizen, so with the estimated cost of $300bn-$900bn, it isn't as expensive at it seems at first glance. The Tokyo Tower of Babel, however, is just completely ridiculous. A $300tn price tag would put the cost at $10,000,000 per citizen.
@@soumojeetmanna2673 I mean, resource-wise, we don't have that many material on earth to build them. Unless we can somehow turn dirt/sand into a strong building material
@@fatherjesus2394 This is a breeding problem. Not only do we need to be sustainable in our environment and resource usage, but the offspring we have should be sustainable to the area where we live.
@@CoolGuy-xf3hb anyways.. why cant we make atlantis a realy? then i remember we already polluted the ocean so much (Trash like the pacific patch & the Oil spills/drills), over fishing & the untold millions of corals being destroyed (they are the ocean's forests/homes of fishes)
I know it doesn't make much sense to build these insanely large skyscrapers, but I'd love to see one finished in my lifetime. For some reason I just love the idea of megastructures.
Same I have tons of ideas for mega skyscrapers. Here are the heights of a few: 5,544 meters 6 kilometres 8,040 meters 10 kilometres 15 kilometres 15.2 kilometres 18 kilometres 25-28 kilometres 33 kilometres 36 kilometres 42 kilometres 52 kilometres 64 kilometres 66 kilometres 76 kilometres 85 kilometres
I'm very fascinated by civilization building ideas and megaprojects etc , if only us humans were more superior like angels with their powers and gifts we could definitely build things like this lol
I'm scared to death of not being in control when it comes to heights, but I would have to swallow that fear and take me a ride on the space elevator, that would be awesome!
@@Fermin95YT I think you are thinking of the circumference of the Earth which is actually a little over 40,000 km. The diameter is 12,756 km. Both of these statistics are from wikipedia. So that would mean a 30,000 km cable would be approximately 30,000/12,756 = 2.35... Roughly 2 1/3 times the earth's diameter as the OP stated.
Civil engineers are responsible for turning these buildings into reality. And proposals like the space elevators probably will get rejected by civil engineers because they probably know the materials they have cannot create a sturdy enough rope.
Architects design the floor layout and look while civil engineers design the structural components, like material to use, reinforcing, load paths, etc.
This is just absolute dreaming in day light. Why are people trying to compare themselves with the creator of universe? Remember what happened to the tower of babel according to the book of genesis. Even the X- seed 400 will never come into reality. Scientists are indeed the great deceivers, it is better to repent. Those scientists shall perish if they shall not repent. Even you people who are believing scientists, you shall perish with them unless you repent.
I am living in Dubai and I have to say, Burj Kalifa is a really sensational Building. Have been on the 125th floor some days ago, ist breathtaking if you watch over Dubai with all their Skyscrapers.....
Was in US Navy and went to Dubai in 1992. It was not very impressive then. Wondering what money made Dubai what it is today??? US taxpayers/gas-oil buyers??
Now here I thought you where going to do a material analysis to see what we theoretically could build, not report on impossible structures people have designed.
This is just absolute dreaming in day light. Why are people trying to compare themselves with the creator of universe? Remember what happened to the tower of babel according to the book of genesis. Even the X- seed 400 will never come into reality. Scientists are indeed the great deceivers, it is better to repent. Those scientists shall perish if they shall not repent. Even you people who are believing scientists, you shall perish with them unless you repent.
@@greatportlandstreetmodelra6513 not impossible but very Unnecessary because in 1000years we prolly are a multi-solar systems species and earth would either been fucked up or not that big of a deal to live in by humans
Since the average depth of the oceans hadal zone is 6km the Tower of Babel can start in the hadal zone and still be same height as the x seed tower. About a. 1/4th of Californias or Canadas population can live there at one time. They would effectively be nations on certain parts or floors of the building due to its size.
"1/4" = one fourth or one quarter. You don't need to add 'th' to it (otherwise it becomes one fourthth). You only add 'th' to whole numbers like 5th, 8th etc.
theoretically as high as you want, I think a more interesting question is how high will we build, because active support really does mean there are no theoretical limits even if there are practice limits.
We will be limited by the material too will we not, I mean no mountain in Earth can be taller than 10,000 m simply because no rock will be able to bear the shear stress on it?
@@arnavnarayan2105 No, active support allows you to literally build as high as you want because you are not relying on the passive strength of the material you are building it out of. like the launch loop you are relying on the metal balls moving through a parabolic arc and supporting the structure 80km up. You can theoretically take such a structure as high as you want, it's just there are practical limits because you don't want to go so high that you are in space space because you have the risk of micro meteors or space junk striking the loop. Also it would be kinda pointless building that high anyway, so it's not worth the extra effort and power to maintain such a system that is what I mean by practice limits.
@@Etheoma Have to remember we live on a ball. Further away the support from middle more the forces try to push sideways on your lower levels. So basicly most limiting factor would be earth itself. (Allso material for sure)
"There are still some issues needing to be worked out" By that he means "it's impossible". Won't ever happen. Two of them have already been proven impossible and/or incredibly nonsensical.
@@kml_arf Its just impractical, same ammount of people can live on the surface and it will consume too much energy, probably needs a nuclear powerplant inside
@@georgivanev7466 Well OF COURSE it needs a nuclear powerplant inside lol. There has to be some target for the hacker-terrorists to try to attack, so the main-character retired policeman can hunt them now. You can't have a good movie without those elements.
Very interesting video and concepts, but considering that I generally don't like going higher than the 4th floor, I think I'll pass on going into any of these structural contraptions if they're ever built.
If the X Seed 4000 were to be built I’d love it to be built in New York City and have massive engines built into it and launch it into space like the Mon Calamari!!!
I love it that we're building taller and taller buildings, so by the time our modern civilization collapses, there are big monuments to all the excess that we enjoyed prior to the big global civilization fail. It has happened many times before, so there's no reason to think that this will never happen.
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These types of constructions can have really harmful consequences to the social, financial, and environmental systems of the countries that are willing to take part in such projects. It looks impressive on paper but can become a real-life mega-disaster. In some places, maintaining 200-300m skyscrapers became a really tough and frustrating challenge (e.g. Ponte City tower that's in Johannesburg)
All true, but most of these are hypotheticals and were never meant to see actual construction. I mean the price tag for some of them seems woefully low, but it's fine they're just harebrained ideas by engineering firms. Usually to make whatever they actually pitch seem reasonable by comparison or gain the firm that pitched the idea some notoriety and free marketing.
This sort of safety question would be enough to keep the project from being built. Now, you'd think a government could control an area of Earth's surface (land or water) equal to a circle, whose radius is equal to the length of the cable (100mi/160km?), and keep it free of people, planes and ships, and any other construction, i.e. untouched wilderness, that can be built on for the base station. You'd be hard-pressed to find this much land. Next, someone is bound to ask that if the cable did break, the now-broken end of the cable would fling about wildly and probably cause more pieces of itself to come off. You can't guard against all of that. So all bets would be off ... the project would be too dangerous. Such pieces would be bigger than SkyLab.
Most likely a space elevator would be anchored at sea, so the result would be about 100km of cable falling into the ocean. It's worth keeping in mind that the cable itself must be tapered, with the narrow end at the bottom, so at that height you're really talking about a pretty thin cable. The part of the cable above the break would stay in orbit. It would likely take out quite a few satellites before it was brought under control, but for the most part life on the ground wouldn't be immediately at hazard.
@@bobbun9630 Even if the cable were lightweight and thinner at the point nearest to the atmosphere and the cable were tethered in the ocean, wouldn’t the cable fall at such a force that it could cause a tsunami wave once it impacted the surface of the ocean?
@@JKDC97 No. The cable has to be drastically tapered due to its length, and it's worth remembering that it would have to be built of super-strong near science fiction materials, not steel. The bottom of the cable will be as thin and light as possible so that the cable higher up can support its weight. Although you often see illustrations of space elevators depicting a thick cable at ground level, in a realistic depiction you might not be able to even see the cable from the distances suggested in such depictions. Its far more likely that the cable would float down like a piece of ribbon than that it would cause large waves--at least for a break at the height the original poster suggests.
I'd really want to go into the Tower of Babel. That would be an amazing experience. I've been to the Burj Khalifa and to that observation deck and it is a stunning view. But nothing would compare to the top of the Tower of Babel.
actually the "limit" of the launch loop isn't a real limit, it's just put there because space trash and micro meteors would decay quickly / burn up before hitting that altitude
Imagine the Nightmare for the cleaning business companies.😱 Also, the reason why Japanese have made these concepts was to accommodate ever growing population of Japan because they're living on an Island and they are running out of living space; many Japanese are living in bedroom sized apartments so... Even today, these buildings are popular in Japan and would be extremely useful for overcrowded countries. Selam Aleikum
Concepts are proposed to catch eyeballs. If you have any car show experience, you will know the concept cars. They are never meant to be built. Those concepts catch eyeballs. Just like that. Do not pay much attention to concepts.
Wow nearly everything IS wrong: Cleaning companies would have a Jackpot With this building Japan has an aging Problem, Not a growth Problem IT doesnt have a Space Problem either its huge and a third only lives in the, compared.to the Rest If the country, small Tokyo Metropol Region
X-seed would feel like strange and completely new habitat to live in. With compact electric vehicles, drones and even small helicopters flying inside of it. Also there would be some pretty impressive ceiling heights, open spaces for flying vehicles to leave. Routes to take up on foot, visiting different parts of the building, literally hundreds of restaurants and activities for 30 million people. Just imagine that past 2km height it gets really cold outside and the potential of it. Open cold balconies etc.
Why not build massive air scrubbers to clean the air, water systems in drought areas, mega farms to feed people and make weapons of war companies produce vehicles etc. A brave new world 2.0
In such buildings you'd need a travel agency to travel from one place of the building to another quite exotic. These projects are sheer madness in vain.
@@mikatu yes, but they would need to buiild the foundations for a 10km high tower right at the beginning. No investor would do that because they would not be fully useful in the frist 150 years. I don't think that such a megaproject will be built under capitalism. The sgrada Familia is not comparable, becase first it was not built for proft and second it was not that expensive, so it could be financed by donations.
Imagine living in a building city. You would never leave the building because everything you need is inside the building and it would take ages just to get to the exit. It would be so depressing living there because you would never get to go outside.
@@McFwoupson trains if you’re going around horizontally, but if you’re moving vertically it would be very slow. We currently don’t have any form of transport that could move so fast vertically while still being safe for people. Except for maybe plains or helicopters but you can’t put that inside a building, even if the building is massive.
@@McFwoupson these city building are SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than the Burj Khalifa. These are massive compared to the Burj Khalifa. Plus a lot of these buildings aren’t straight, they’re like Eiffel Tower shape. Elevators only go straight up and down. You would constantly be needing to move between different elevators which would add a lot of travel time.
Crazy to think that stuff like this is going to happen in our lives. Enjoy the sky and don’t take it for granted, because one day the sight of the sky might be polluted by these very concepts.
As an HVAC and plumbing installer of commercial and industrial equipment i see a huge infrastructure hurdle for water supply, sewer out, drainage for all other than sewer. Plus the extreme challenge of cooling that structure and cost.
very fascinating stuff I believe a lot of it will happen eventually but I'll never see it, even if they did have a space elevator available right now there's no way I would have the balls to do that lol