The important thing is to HAVE a system. It not only makes you more efficient, you're much less likely to make a mistake and forget something when you break camp. I also picked up several tips from this that I never thought of.. thanks.
I use the trash compactor bag as a pack liner. I used a compression bag with straps for my sleeping bag and then stuffed the tent in on top of that, tucking it into the dead spaces. I then measured how much space i had left. I repeated this experiment just stuffing my sleeping bag into the pack liner and putting my tent on top. I had the same amount of room left over, and maybe even gained a cm. Conclusion: compression sacks don't save space. It's easier to cram those bulky items directly into the pack and they'll fill the space more efficiently, while saving the weight of the stuff sacks, and depending on how fancy, the money. You don't need to organize your tent and sleeping bag.
The one place I differ is the tent is near the top so that, in a heavy downpour, I can setup the tent while leaving everything else dry inside the pack. Once the tent is up I can unload the pack under the fly keeping everything dry.
Replaced my 35 years old Lowalpine Cerro Torre for a newer model. They rock for sure. When 30 years ago in Oz I bought a MountainDesign rain jacket. It also did give up recently...a pity as I used it on so many expeditions for decades. And used and abused it from tropics up to the Arctic.
Purchased the Lowe Alpine backpack through your affiliate link - loving it so far. Local shops stock a lot of exclusive backpacking packs or exclusive climbing packs, so I love that this is a great middle ground. Everything you need nothing you don't.
About a year ago I moved from the Gold Coast to Switzerland - now a complete mountain convert ha. These sorts of videos really help. Thanks for the e-book too.
Thanks for the video! What I find difficult about this concept is that the tent is so far at the bottom. So, when you arrive at your campsite (especially in rainy conditions) you'll have to take out nearly everything else first in order to set up your tent...
Gear today is half the weight of what it used to be, 5.5kg vs 11.5, so now I just pack stuff how I use it. Everything is so light that I often forget I'm wearing a pack now anyway. Sleeping system, extra clothes, and puffy jacket go uncompressed in a nylofume liner at the bottom, while the tent, food bag, and cookkit go on top, along with a small nylofume bag to put clothes in that I'm using throughout the day. Everything else goes in pockets on the outside of the pack in ziplocks. Easy breezy. No stuff sacks or compression needed.
You know, i never thought of using a waterproof liner hey. I went and bought an Overboard bag. Nothing wrong with the bag, it's well made, and definitely watertight. The only thing i don't like about it, is there isn't really any provision for a hydration bladder. So i have a Camel Bak trapped to the outside of the bag. It works, but it's not close to my back as you suggested.
What is your (usual) baseweight? Do you even consider baseweight? Do you have any tips for lowering the overall baseweight of a pack? Your videos are great, keep 'em comin!
where do you put your tent , sorry if that’s a stupid question. I’ve been camping for years as an eagle scout, but as a young adult , buying all my own gear now and planning camp trips on my own now, with no parental help , i’ve realized i have so much still to learn.
We are fortunate our trip to Kilimanjaro to have porters to carry most of our gear, but you still need stuff sacks to keep everything organized. Also, in the past, we used plastic bags to keep gear dry, which is no longer an option as plastic bags are banned in Tanzania. Thanks for this video, really helpful!
@@PaulMcGuire128 wow that's pretty cool that Tanzania banned plastic bags. With my country would keep up with that level of progress. Enjoy your trip to Kili! Check out my training videos before you go!
Hahaha, I am hiking in Arizona and I am most interested in keeping things dry. Going to hike by a river, so we will get wet, although things can dry pretty fast here.
Are those Mammut pants?! They look super functional, and stylish on the trail. If you're ever in Washington state, there are some awesome trails you would really like
I was wondering, I bought a 33 L military style 3 day assault pack off of Amazon, and am just wondering how I can take extra precautions to keep my stuff dry. I’m thinking of buying a few dry bags. But, my question is, with a 33 litre pack, how many litres would the main pocket be? Once I can figure that out, I’ll know what size of dry-bags to buy for each pocket. By the way, I’m not in the military. I just like the military style packs due to the space and durability.
Why put your tent in the bottom of the bag? What happens when its pissing down when you set up camp? You'll have to empty your whole bag onto the floor to get to the tent?
You put your tent right at the bottom? Mine goes right at the top so it’s the first thing I can access when I get to camp and I won’t have to take everything out to get to it 😀
Thanks for posting lots of good advice mate . Never tried a bladder I’m in two minds , have you ever had one leak and what’s a decent make in you’re opinion? Cheers I recently came across a Robens large pump bag £11 Uk . It’s water proof as long as you roll up the outlet and at 35 Ltrs I found if I use it as a liner I can get everything I need to keep dry inside . Plus of course three pumps and my air mat is fully inflated without moisture . Yup you have to empty everything to use it but I’m a solo camper who always uses a 2 man tent and like to lay out my kit every night all of which I personally like to pack in super light Tyvek draw bags which I make so it’s only 6 things to pull out . My tent is in a separate aqua sack in case it goes away wet. Happy trails Lee
I actually had my running one leak yesterday, it was from decathlon so nothing expensive. I think the best in the world are Source, they're made for the Israeli army. Second would be a tie between osprey and of course Camelback.
@@ChaseMountains Don't kid yourself mate - 95% of all these Companies Manufacturing is out of China, Sea to Summit, Mont, Recon, Thule, DD, TAS etc etc etc ... If you want to do something for the environment stop buying products MADE IN CHINA.
Sea to summit dry bags sucks ...not reliable at all I had many of them getting the seams open by just stuffing soft clothing ( especially ultra sil line ) if you wanna have peace of mind get the right stuff. Cheers
Yeah some of them are less durable because they're ultrasil or ultralight. for sure, the ultralight ones are shite. I have no real alligence to STS, I have a bunch of exped ones that are also great. What brands have you found that are more durable?
What size backpack do you use? And how do you decide between wearing hiking boots and mountaineering boots when out hiking? Trying to decide which to use when I go back to Chamonix for when hiking back to refuge Lac Blanc.
On mont blanc I used trail runners up until about 3000m (basically the snow line) as soon as I'm on snow the boots come out generally. (And 40L pack generally) but have used packed up to 90L for self supported alpine/rock trips 😳 very slow and heavy
@@ChaseMountains Odd, I can access "the ultimate gear list" from your website, but the guide links, both from youtube and from your website, gives me a 404..
I do almost hike in trainers and I have a video coming out about minimal shoes and why I rarely use boots, coming in the next few weeks so keep an eye out for that!
So, your tent liner and floor are at the bottom of the pack liner- under everything else? I guess you turf everything out onto the ground in the rain to put up your tent!
Sure. It's all in dry bags anyway. Takes 5 secs to pull out a few to get access to the tent etc. But good point, if you're expecting rain it's probably a good idea to keep the fly or floor at the top somewhere
@@ChaseMountains I don't do ultralight, as I think the gram-counting obsession can be ridiculous. My baseweight is 14-15 pounds (6.3-6.8 kilos) and I have no issue with that. I also carry a 35L, framed pack.
Thanks for letting me know, just a question, where exactly did you see the error? On the download link or within the guide itself? I just checked the links they worked for me!
