How I Pack My Frameless Backpack

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My baseweight for this pack is usually between 8-9lbs depending on weather. This video shows the heavier end of my setup. The way I pack allows the pack to stay very comfortable and maximizes space. Lighterpacks/Gear is listed below in the summer loadout.
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@aquafinaspringwater9814 6 лет назад

Thanks for your insight. You gave me some ideas.

@crazywisdom2 4 года назад

I like your system.... Would Hyperlyte POD's help you with the interior. Specifically everything above the nylofume contents ? Or possily that concept ? Good Stuff... thanks Kel = )

@FrozensAdventures 4 года назад

Nah it's not for me. I like less stuff sacks. But the pod system is great for organization.

@dianal.1279 5 лет назад

Is packing compact like this enough to have weight being transferred to the hipbelt? Thank you.

@hermeticallysealed 6 лет назад

FORGOT THE GATO HE WILL FIT NICELY IN HIP POCKET

@arcana1973 6 лет назад

Pillow! Gas canister! What happened to you? You had that fancy dyneema bag with fleece for your pillow, and the alcohol stove set up.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Lol that pillow is only 1.95oz. worth it for me . I hate the cannisters stoves. But getting used to using them for the AT

@arcana1973 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures pocket rocket 2. Dont use that brs garbage. If you sigh it might put the thing out.

@joepeters5796 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures That's a video series I'm looking forward to. (The AT) .... Any thoughts on the Pacific Crest sometime?

@michaelsapsford6013 4 года назад

What was on the back of the pack, a sleep/sit mat?

@FrozensAdventures 4 года назад

Yes it comes with the pack. They've updated it a trifold pad though.

@michaelsapsford6013 4 года назад

@@FrozensAdventures cool. Thanks.

@SheerStitchery 4 года назад

Great video and so helpful when packing my MYOG frame less pack!

@richardscranton4159 6 лет назад

You forgot to pack the cat?

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

I knew I forgot something!

@OutLan 6 лет назад

Great vid, Jason. This gives me some new ideas on how to better pack my CDT because it's very similar. Would you be willing to do a video specifically on how you pack/carry your electronics/camera for filming? I have a new rig now for the GoPro and I'm finding stowing it away is a challenge with the extra accessories I have.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

I have a video on electronics already but. I keep everything not waterproof in a Ziploc bag on top of my day food bag.

@TimDanDanTheMan1 4 года назад

Thanks so much for this video! I had been eyeing the Nero for a while now to replace my Osprey I used on the Camino Frances last year, and the Nero will serve me on my next Camino and hopefully on many more adventures! Seeing how to efficiently pack it really helps me out a lot! Thanks again and keep up the amazing work!

@miniwolverine6227 4 дня назад

Thanks for the information as always Frozen!

@JasonFerguson1283 2 года назад

What a great video! I just purchased my first frameless pack and you answered a ton of questions! Thank you!

@FrozensAdventures 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@cadleclan9 2 года назад

I had seen in one of your videos you mentioned maybe doing a video on pot cozies. I'm curious of you've made one? I'm looking and can't find it. Just interested in your suggestions. Thanks much! - Steve

@FrozensAdventures 2 года назад

I just got a new cook pot for Christmas and I was going to make a pot coozy for it. So I'll film it this go around. Stay tuned

@kieranwyma173 4 года назад

How do companies measure the.liters of packs? Do they include all compartments, side pockets, and mesh pockets?

@tingmo6669 4 года назад

Some do, some don't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@jerrythomas924 6 лет назад

Haven't went frameless yet, but great demo for when I do.

@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 6 лет назад

Very good information. I have about 5 packs for different operations. This information I need now because I will be doing some backpacking with my son and grandson. Light weight is good. I will have a small gas stove in my pack and an Esbit for back-up. Thanks.

@thehafricanultralighter4973 3 года назад

I'm looking to upgrade to something small and lightweight. I currently use a exos 48 and a 3f ul 40L framless. I've gotten my base weight down fairly low. With a few days of food and water and fuel I'm just barely over 22 lbs. I'm a weekend warrior so usually only do 3 to 4 days most.(longer I would switch back to exos.) Would this be a recommended pack for those weights or do I need to be lighter before buying one. I really have mu eye on a Nero!

@FrozensAdventures 3 года назад

Minus food water and fuel. The nero is recommended for users under 10 lbs

@thehafricanultralighter4973 3 года назад

@@FrozensAdventures I'm at 11. So couple lbs to go. Lol thanks for the info.

@dwayneg8486 6 лет назад

Laying it out next to pack as you said “cutaway” is ingenious. 👏👏👏 Awesome demo. Thx

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Welcome dude!

@BackcountryExposure 6 лет назад

I just did a very similar video. Well done!

@benhikes 6 лет назад

Good call on flipping the fuel can when packing it in the pot to avoid the rust ring. Brilliant!

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Drove me nuts for a long time until I figured I'd give it a try.

@nathanrieck2112 6 лет назад

Rust=more iron for you :) extra healthy

@TripleNickelOutdoors 6 лет назад

I started carrying an REI Flash sit pad. It doubles as a pillow because of a snap attached to it, but you can easily unfold it at night if your feet get cold. It’s 3 oz. and I like its dual purpose. Might be something you’re interested in if you’re using your Phoenix UQ!

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Forgot to mention that the back clips in a ccf pad. I've had to use it on trips with the Phoenix

@alexwbanks70 6 лет назад

Great way to pack. It's crazy how similar our setups are. Funny how that is after watching your videos over the last few years. Although I have the Gossamer gear G4. I even flatten the back like you do when its packed. Thanks for all the reviews and tips.

@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker 5 лет назад

That was a very interesting pack loading presentation, I don't think I have ever seen one like that. Thanks

@bretthikez6567 6 лет назад

Glad to see you can fit it all in there just fine..that pack looks pretty GOOD..Love these gear vids ..

@claramullen 6 лет назад

Great pack demo amazing how well organizing works so well isn't.

@TimWatsonOutdoors 6 лет назад

Nicely done. Love that blue on the Nero.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Definitely my favorite style blue

@GenXvanlife69 6 лет назад

Got my T-shirt and bumper sticker today. There great. I do wish it would of been synthetic (t-shirt), not sure if you’ll see on the trail tho...

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

If you can recommend a synthetic shirt printing company I'd gladly upload the design. I haven't found a company that does it. This seems to be a common request for any outdoor youtube channel that puts out shirts too.

@cgriggsiv 6 лет назад

Excellent demo have yourself a good day

@DragonRoams 6 лет назад

I keep going back and forth on buying the nero. This has been helpful even for just packing my current bag. Thanks for sharing

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

You are very welcome

@tullochgorum6323 5 лет назад

Personally, I wouldn't put my puffy at the bottom. If I have to stop because I get injured or for some other reason, I may need the puffy as a belay jacket to keep warm. Emptying the pack isn't a great idea in an emergency.

@FrozensAdventures 5 лет назад

Do whatever feels comfortable.

@allboutthatyak2085 6 лет назад

I know it is off-topic in relation to this video, but could you explain your continuous ridgeline that you have mentioned in other video's? Or maybe show how you have yours setup? Thanks!

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

No problem. I actually go over it in depth in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KR2BbKGwPyc.html

@GODOFROCK22 5 лет назад

Ive watched this video twice now. Really great. Counting down until the AT Thru, Brother!

@FrozensAdventures 5 лет назад

I can't wait as well! Gonna be a good time!

@akashanc7032 6 лет назад

Thank you Frozen! I really appreciate how well you explain things. I have learned a lot from watching your videos.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

You are very welcome KIm!

@jhonyermo 6 лет назад

Big ass help for my NERO . Thanks ! Gotta get the hook on Purel right away. Lots of good info.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

They have the purel at Target btw. Glad it helped!

@robertschwartz9234 6 лет назад

Love this video

@BobPreis 6 лет назад

This is how I pack my hammock loadout, except the poop kit goes in the outside mesh pocket. Never know when the espresso will kick in.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Yea I keep switching my poop kit back and forth between the mesh and the inside. Usually I'm pretty regular in the morning. So it just stays inside

@realTimHernandez 6 лет назад

Much thanks!

@michaelsimmons5401 6 лет назад

Excellent video and very useful info, as always. Thanks! Off this subject, have you posted a video about how to manage breaks on the longer hikes? I'm just getting into backpacking and this is something I can't find any info on. For instance, for like 40 miles, do you hike all day every day? Do you hike in the morning and evening and break for the heat of the day? Thanks!

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

I usually wake up pretty early have some breakfast and on my way around 7am. I'll hike 10 miles or so and stop around noon for a shoes off lunch break. Get some calories and get going. Around 3 or so I'll take a 15 minute break, maybe while I filter water and then get back on the trail. I like hiking long miles though. Obviously everyone is different and you need to listen to your body for breaks.

@michaelsimmons5401 6 лет назад

Excellent, thanks for the tips!

@nghiado4801 6 лет назад

Hi Frozen. How much is the total pack weight (with food + water + fuel) when u do a 5-day trip like this? Zpacks website says max should be 20lbs so im not sure how close u are to the limit.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

For a 5 day trip I imagine I'd be around 23lbs. 4 day trips are usually starting at 21lbs. Though I'm just outside the max recommended specs from zpacks. I do have the padded hipbelt pockets on the pack which in my opinion take a lot of load off the shoulders than the normal hip belt that comes with it. I wouldn't load it up with anymore than 25lbs though. The fabric itself is really strong, same with the stitching.

@nghiado4801 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures 23lbs for a 4 night trip, that’s what i imagined too. Im normally do 3-day weekend and my pack is at 21lbs (80% of my gears are like urs. I copied almost everything from ur channel. 😂). That’s why i couldn’t figure out how u do a 4-5 day and still below Zpacks spec 20lbs. Thanks for the clarification.

@thomash7573 6 лет назад

I have the same pack but no hipbelt pouches. I’ve been thinking about trying the non-padded ones from my arc haul. Are the padded ones really comfortable?

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Zpacks says the non padded pockets won't work with the nero. I'd assume the would flip and slide all over. the padded belt pockets make the nero belt feel like the haul or blast

@thomash7573 6 лет назад

Good to know. Yeah it makes sense they would slide around or sag. After the small fortune spent at ZPacks of the last few years , I think I’ll just continue to use my shoulder strap pouches.

@sweener88 6 лет назад

Sorry if I missed this in the video but what is total weight?

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Right under 9 lbs for the loadout. Links to lighterpack in the video description.

@boba1247 5 лет назад

Hi 2 questions...I'm thinking about going to the zpacks backpack. Trying to decide between the arc blast or the nero. Which is more comfortable? My usual hikes are about 3 to 4 days. #2, I just made the fancy feast alcohol stove and I see you are taking the BRS 3000 with canisters. Have you had any issues with the alcohol stoves or not carrying enough alcohol or is the weight of 2 canisters just more convenient as a bottle of alcohol.

@FrozensAdventures 5 лет назад

For comfort the arc blast takes the cake for sure. I find myself using the Nero and now another frameless backpack more and more. I love alcohol stoves way more than canister stoves. The reason why I switches this year was to get used to it more for when I start my Appalachian trail thru hike next year. I think canister fuel is going to be easier to come by for ressupply. Amy other time is just use alcohol. It's quiet and more lightweight for shorter thruhike trips like the 3 to 4 days you usually go on. I carried an alcohol stove and fuel in a big smarter water bottle on my Superior hiking trail thru hike over two weeks and it was perfect because there weren't really want towns that sold denatured alcohol along the way.

@jeffhallman676 5 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures if the arc blast is more comfortable why are you using the Nero and the other one more often now?

@FrozensAdventures 5 лет назад

I've gotten to the point that I don't need a frame in my pack. It's a huge weight savings for me which in turn helps me recover faster because it's less strain on my joints.

@uptrail7169 6 лет назад

First!

@uptrail7169 6 лет назад

Very Good! I'll start packing tonight for our adventure. Maybe I'll make a pack video after our trip. I still have a few more areas to shave off some pack weight. It was neat to see Sintax in PA. I'll have to look at the map to see where Black Forest is in PA

@aaronevans3693 6 лет назад

Nice info! I'm always picking up something new from your videos. Was the mio and clip on hand sanitizer a Gary inspired add-on haha! Just spotted his earlier today.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

The mio was but the hand sanitizer on the pack is something literally every thru hiker does. It's a very convenient place to put it.

@aaronevans3693 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures good to know! I keep it with my food/ toiletries. I'll have to give it a shot! I hope this isn't too much to ask but could you help me or point me in the direction for how/what to pack for an overnight? I'm using a tent system for now (3lb) and packing 3 meals for each day. I could make up a list if it would help but I'm really thinking I'm over packing or over weight. I filled a 65L backpack 😥

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Pack everything that you see in this video. 😀

@aaronevans3693 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures haha well that was easy enough! I'll start making adjustments 😀

@AROOnline 6 лет назад

Great video as always...man I have to get a Ghost Whisperer...lol

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

go to camelcamelcamel.com and put the amazon link in there, you can set a watch price on it. Just leave it there. Usually they go down to 40-50% off. I got mine for 50% off a few years ago.

@MG-ze3lf 6 лет назад

Why spend all that money on a Ghost when MH has different models for cheaper price. And Columbia sells puffies too that do the exact same thing as the Ghost and pack just as small. People are getting so snowed by these expensive UL gear companies.

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

Columbia products have really gone down hill over the last few years. You have to trust the gear. That being said the msrp ghost whisperer is insane. Wait till there is a sale I got mine 50% off. It's held up to abuse and it's warm down to just above freezing with just a t-shirt. Add a gspor barrier via a rain jacket and you will be warm just below freezing which should never happen in 3 season weather. For cheaper warmer and lighter products check out montbell. I've had a lot of luck with the Alpine light for winter backpacking.

@MG-ze3lf 6 лет назад

Outdoor Adventures I've been wearing Columbia Clothing for years and do trust them. Don't get me wrong cause I see where you are coming from I love MH but only get the stuff when it's discounted and use my EMS discount. Grove City always has some good MH coats on sale. Was just saying that there are different models that are cheaper especially when Columbia owns MH. I like watching your vids and its cool we are Western PA people. Not that far from you in Beaver County. Good luck on your AT hike 👍

@FrozensAdventures 6 лет назад

For insulative products I've had stitches come out and zippers snag. Just can't trust them again. Bought a $300 Omniheat jacket for skiing and it ripped on the first fall. Maybe I'm just unlucky but I've heard this from others as well. Anyway just sharing my experience with them. Back a few years ago they were awesome. Anyway I would never ever recommend paying full price for the GW. Wait for a sale is what I've told everyone, or I refer them to montbell. The retail price is bloated and insane.