“Back in India, the economy is dumpster fire.” I said that in this video and am getting a lot of Indian bros disagreeing, so … was it fair? People have pointed out two facts, which are undeniably true: 1) The Indian economy is large, and is (or is soon to be) the world’s 4th largest. And 2) in the last handful of years, it’s been improving at a good rate. Yet my “dumpster fire” has some data to back that up. - GNI PER CAPITA: I believe this is the fairest way to judge an overall economy, since it doesn’t allow people to cherry-pick good/bad data. Despite the massive size of the economy - they have 1.4 billion people, after all - on a per person basis, it’s still pretty poor, with a GNI of $2,200 per person. That places it #123 in the world, on par with countries like Jamaica and Namibia or some others I hadn’t heard of. - INCOME DISPARITY: In the world’s biggest country, there are billionaires who throw parties for more dollars than I’ll ever earn, and there millions of people in abject poverty. The last stats show about 140 million people living under $2.15 per day. That’s both improved from the past, and still horrible. - RECENT STATS: Some are improving, but we’re still looking at a 9.2% unemployment rate in June, lowered savings, substandard healthcare, education, labor participation rates, and India still has a yearly net-out migration of about a half-million, which is proportionally small but more people are still leaving the country than entering it. So … is that a good/large/improving economy or still one that’s still Third World, despite being one of the earliest civilizations on Earth?
I think dumpster fire was a bit of an exaggeration. Yes, India needs to improve on its wealth inequality. But when we judge anything we do so based on the past. India was a basket-case (which the Brits thought will be Balkanized within a decade) when it was finally independent. It was staring at bankruptcy as recently as 1990 before it liberalized its economy. A more accurate comparison would be the median income difference between Indians living in the US and Indians living in India... and I guess that what you actually meant to say.
We call a Dumpster fire economy , when Debt to GDP Ratio is 124%. When the nation is in $33 Trillion inFederal Debt. When the time it will take to completly pay the Federal debt if GDP was paid without Zero expenses is 340 Years... An economy which runs by printing money is called Whitehouse Dumpster Fire Economy.
Because people in the global north, NGOs and goverment state department in the west are still exploiting the global south, for example Africa is not underdeveloped, it's over exploited. They don't want the global south to develop, it's not in their interest. Americans especially want to maintain their hegemony.
Heard of purchasing power parity? Federal debt on us economy and raising debt ceiling every time Or else default on debt. Homeless people in us, extortion price of healthcare and medical tourism to Asian countries Does this sound like flourishing or vanishing economy You people were on similar euphoria while china took all your manufacturing, time to repeat that story soon
It’s true, India was looted by Muslim and British invaders in the past. It takes time to develop a country. It’s very hard for India to rise because of geopolitics. India is surrounded by the enemies inside and outside. Pakistan gets funding from America, China, and other western countries against India. So many things still going on against India to divide it further by foreign countries. But it’s true Indians encourage their children for study. Indians also respect and follow the law and order wherever they go. They don’t do any kind of jihad.
"Indian Americans have the highest income in the U.S." It's not just the U.S. by the way. It's the same in almost every country they migrate to - U.K., Australia, Canada, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.,
That's an excellent point. I'm pretty good at understanding U.S. data and where to find it and what's real/not, but I'm really weak when it comes to other countries.
Indian kids coming to US have studied for at least 13+ years in India or other developed countries. And they are top rankers. They go there not only for themselves but US companies require them. India is not all slum. There are thousands of 5 star hotels too. Also Indians are good people and family oriented.
The "American Dream" is alive and well -- to those who value the freedom. Grateful to Indians and other immigrants who remind us what the US is capable of🙏
No, I'll stand by my comment. The Indian economy IS improving and is fairly large, but that's because it has 1.4 billion people. Per capita, it's GNI puts it at #123 worldwide, behind countries like Jamaica and Namibia.
Simple... Indians in any country work hard.. Pay full taxes.. Ensure the integrity of that country.. Transact kindly with all others.. No jealous on anybody.. Follow tooth and nail Sanatan Hindu culture..not large family...Transperant... All this above why not Indians prosper ? The world must invite Indians with open hands...
This joker has exposed himself on two fronts ; his ignorance of India and his bias against India. I am both disappointed and shocked with both his attitude and ignorance.
My Canadian born South Asian children, now US citizens, work in Silicon Valley, CA. One, a United States Licensed CPA, and the other a Computer Specialist. Correction! they earn a lot more than $120k. You're right! we've never had a TV, and we've been married for 54 years. Although NOT an arranged marriage; we're still very much in love! ...and NO debt.
Education is mostly nature nurture and Thrive - and compared to my 90s education system - now it is far better - but still we have to admit - conceptual learning and overall growth as humans - our education system is not helping - I have done few episodes in Telugu - but I will do some episodes on my channel in English on this subject. Btw- education is different and success in abroad is different - by 25 once you realize you got to work on many issues of life - most hardworking people realize their way of doing things and Indians coming from collective cultures - our responsibilities always keeps us on job to excel
They come from intense competitive world of 1+ billion people, They come trained from IITs, IIMs & other top Universities. (intelligent, hardworking) They come trained from very minimal available resources compared to US. They come from the English Speaking environment. They come from better family & cultural values compared many other nations.
Indians have always been a rich and prosperous country in terms of wealth, education, spirituality since many 1000s years and hence we were looted by the other countries for centuries and yet we have thrived and will thrive in future as well. This video just shows the part after we have been looted by the Europeans and what kind of cruelty we faced, please show how wealthy we have been last 5000 years.
@@vinayak4749 Average hater kid starter pack. If something is going wrong in your state, your CM is responsible for it. PM job is to introduce new policies and maintain foreign relations as face of India. He worked as a CM for Gujarat and its best state ever.
Living as an Asian in the Bay Area, the epicenter of tech. Met lots of Indians who would forfeit (or regret) their STEM jobs and would rather do things in social work or arts. When other Asian-Americans find out I’m an art major they have the wide eyed “grass-is-greener-over-there” look, I ain’t making bunk but I’m free.
100% facts. In India, no one makes a survivable income if not for medicine, engineering, not anymore in law. Following own passion is out of question. RU-vid and startups is changing that fast right now, phew
Hey Ken great video, but you are committing a slight error. You are inferring that the huge Indian household income is because of values, traditions work ethics etc. You also mention that Indians have the lowest divorce rate of all ethnicities. Well that’s the trick if an average green person earns 70k but lives alone, and the average Indian earns 40k but is always living with a working partner that would make household incomes larger for Indians , which hides a different reality. In reality other metrics do show Indians success but this one could be misleading. For instance it was used to say that black Americans have their average income declined during the last 40 years, which in fact the average income of a black American has increased, but given that the divorce rate has skyrocketed, the household income could have decreased you know ? It’s just a comment, I really appreciate your work . Keep on man !
You know, this is a fantastic point and one I need to dig into more, especially for future videos. You're right in that different divorce rates could -- depending on how they deal with divorced parents -- definitely be affected even if salaries were unchanged. Thinking it through, if I divorce my wife, are we now considered two separate families? If she remarries, are the kids considered part of two families? I can see it getting confusing, but is worthwhile to know. I'll definitely look into it. You know, one of the slight bummers about producing these videos is I sometimes -- like now -- get educated better, but only after the video is produced. Thanks Kevin! --Ken
Ok, I spent some time with this and can confidently say: I'm not really sure. The income data comes from the U.S. Census and that's all household based, and I could only find one reference that attempted to break it down by individual. That was Pew, which I highly regard. Even they, though, didn't give me a comparison to other American ethnicities, just Indian vs. Asians in the U.S. And those numbers showed Indians substantially outperforming. According to them, Median Annual Personal Earnings of full time workers: Asians - $60,000, Indians $85,000, roughly the same differences we saw with family earnings, maybe even larger. Again, no national comparison for everyone, though. Those are also round numbers and I couldn't find their source/methodology and I don't know divorce rates for Asians in general here. www.pewresearch.org/fact-sheet/asian-americans-indians-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=MEDIAN%20ANNUAL%20PERSONAL%20EARNINGS%20%28ages%2016%20and%20older%20with%20positive%20earnings%29%20%7C%20%7C%7C%7C%7C So, well, there we go. --Ken
This guy is damn ignorant and presenting bias data. He is saying 2200$ , but it is 3000$. PPP is 2nd highest in the world. Indian economy is not fraud and borrowed based like west.
5 percent of Americans are homeless, downtrodden too. During the last 10/15 years India has undergone miraculous changes and now stands 5th economy in world.. You hv taken selective photos of poverty and not of prosperity.
You have clearly not done your homework about India. Yes there is poverty like many countries and we are rapidly eradicating it. Tell me is there no poor homeless people in USA? Well show us the streets of NY you know which ones right? Revisit this vedio after 2025, it will be interesting to see how the US dream will look like.
In India and Pakistan we stay in marriages and compromise on both sides, we don't just give up easily on hard times. That's why there are less divorce rates. But they are rising now.
Majority of Indians even if being poor… value education living in India… unlike in the US where there are so many avenues and support for education still more than 60% of them doesn’t go for higher education. No wonder they call Africa a country 😂😂😂
Finally Americans are waking up to the powerhouse Indian talent that has become a critical part of the country. Their hardwork and contribution to developed America is recognised after three generations or more. Good points. What’s missed is that only Indian Hindu are at the top anywhere in the world, as also seen by wealthy American Hindu Lobby catered to by Obama and Trump alike. The crux of this success is the continual ancient Hindu civilisation values in families though distorted gravely due to invasions, genocides and modernism. You’ve extracted the points well on education, math and arranged marriage within families. If you look closely these values are identical with ultra rich generational wealth holding rich families anywhere. That’s because that’s the only way to succeed with stability, passing the benefits down the generations or building up in case of newly poor Indians thanks to Brit’s and Islam induced multiple genocides. Indians have a very strong civilizational memory of wealth and are just trying to get back to where our great grandparents were. Math runs in Indian DNA so that’s a natural. Medicine, law, engineering are culturally revered due to lineage of Ayurveda, Dharm, Excellent architectural genius of civilisation. But the Hindu education behemoth system was cut by the Brit’s and English education imposed which is highly inferior hence the struggling Indians post Brit colonialism. Hence, they all get whatever education they can get by the fragmented British education system setup in 1800s and to avoid corruption of govt that kills opportunities, Indians move for opportunities essentially though reluctantly as Indian food and spirituality is carried by them in their hearts wherever they go. Spirituality is a huge basis for non consumerism, minimalism, karma conscience to do well and strong sense of giving back to those who gave them shelter, ie the countries they migrate to in current context. Teachers are seen as revered sages culturally hence even if current teachers aren’t anywhere near that level, still out of respect, you’ll see some videos going viral of Indian graduates touching feet of American professors who jumps back in confusion lol. Edit: With economically rising India and Indians queuing up to come back to their home country, American politicians are worried about draining Indian talent, hence such videos are becoming the talk of the town. As Trump said "Indians study in Ivy Leagues here and go back to India, create businesses , become millionaires and billionaires making their home country rich. We need to stop the talent and give them green card straight away with their graduation degrees in STEM etc fields". Just wish Americans become kind to Indians who are concentrated in top layer where their peers have no qualms but face racism from larger society. It is evident with Indian standup comedians and others who live with drooping shoulders in fear of being attacked, afraid of breathing to their full capacity, wherever they work among layman Americans. Racism which doesn't exist in India despite being the most diverse country or because of being the most diverse country.
To truly understand India, you will need to travel across this great land. The larva needs to come out of the cocoon to experience a naturally beautiful world where beacons like India reside.
It just looks like Indians do really well because the Indians immigrating here are the ones already doing well. They had money when they were in India as well. It’s expensive to immigrate so only the financially capable are doing it in the first place
This podcaster does not have some basic info about India. Like any European or US media these guys will show a dinghy street when they show India as if all of India look like that! Shame on these guys !! When they show their own countries they will show most modern sides not the dirty streets - people living in the side walks, drug addicts roaming around the street with fierce looks (this is a common sight on the streets of most of western countries). I'm not saying India is as good as the western countries but everyone would try to project good side if a country unless one produces a documentary on homeless people or something related to hygiene.
Showing Some Slums and Litter is NOT = INDIA ! about 150 Million persons (Half of US population )are fairly affluent (Proportional to Living costs which is 1/5th of US in USD terms ). The urban and Rural infrastructure is Fast improving, GDP growth is 6.5℅ which you cant dream . India got Independence only 75 yrs back and has surely about 200 million Relative impoverished population. You cant compare ORANGES VS APPLES. USA is a Benificiary of India's Knowledge , High Tech and Highly evolved Medical sector.😮
these peoples come to the U.S with a COLLEGE DEGREE!! i had a H1B1 VISA roommate with a SERVICE IT DEGREE...he came to US within 15 years...he bought a house!! was travelling every 6 months all over the world.
Sadly after all the hard work and taxes they contribute they are last in line to get permanent residency. Even after entering contributing 100's of thousands of tax dollars right from education in which they pay 3 times higher than a local.
As Indian Americans get to the 2nd or 3rd generation in the US, will all these advantages erode. Maybe Indian Americans won't be a homogeneous lot with a greater disparity amongst first generation and second/third generation American Indians.
You should not compare indians with anybody else there is no other country in the world. We have many languages, many faiths and many ways of living. Mostly hindu population we are accepting of other faiths and traditions instead of practicing exclusivity in some other faiths which vows to convert everybody to their faith causing friction. Since 1200s we have lived under muslim rule preserving our hindu identity. Then 150 years of british rule. They have weakened our economy a lot. Then after independence we have had almost socalist rule. We did get a good foundation but now much of capitalist outlook. So now we have conditions favourable we are doing better. Since the drying up of Saraswati river indians have shown resilience. Our values teach us to value life give chance to every living creature to live and not take everything to perversly satisfy hedonistic living. The british carved out india and pakistan from the same set of people. One country chose to live by one faith while the other embraced diversity. There are only very little other faith people in pakistan yet the country is full of hindu hate. They are not happy with their islamic identity if they were they would treat their minorities well. But all you get is radical rhetoric. In india people are happy with who they are. Mostly they will strive to make themselves better. In india most of the mainstream media is owned by non indians so it is hard for indian voices to reach western world and are often suppressed. We now can predict how bbc or al jazeera will cover an indian event. Your video seems to be similar take the good things from the indians and trivialize the indians. You should read the note written by Richard Feynman on the indian community in west indies. Atleast he did not seem to have a bias. It is very easy to demean or trivialize indians but very difficult to live like indians to better your self without holding grudges about others.
Compared to many, who dealt with this same topic - you have balanced multiple facets of the issue - yes - being an Indian, for that matter people coming from closed cultures and developing nations and have showed resilience and adaptability since ages - we develop certain traits and this land of opportunity looks like a perfect place to show them where already they were in a lullaby of many things for the past century (after the world war). But that is Half of the story - the rest is more important - you should also cover topics like = Nationals of highest H1B visa frauds; Nationals with highest fake on their resumes, Nationals with highest people involved in real estate frauds; Nationals with least social responsibility - my point is as long as it is 1% to 5% you wont see this - if we become 20 to 30% and busy in only saving and not spending - only making our kids read and not play = and also bring the caste hierarchy like India - what kind of a world and society you will see - that is more important for discussion.
Before Indian American, there were Italian American and Irish American, polish American, Norwegian American, Japanese American and so on …… Stop this hatred for immigrants
The average electrician can make well over 100000 a year so can a plumber. higher education does not do you that much good if you have a masters in political science humanities or history it will not feed the bull dog adjunct professors barely make enough money to even survive. 20 out of 100 of the college grades make as much money as the other 80 combined . Not impressed with the value of higher education for the most part unless its in computer science engineering or medicine.
Hey I'm indian and yeah this is because of crap stuff like reservation and system failure in our nation ,most of the immigrants are from general Hindus (Brahmans,Thakur etc) they tend to live because they are constantly bullied and denied in govt policies and exams and some time even genocide threat which leads large no. of Tamil Brahmans to leave TN and shift to us especially in California state. Eg) cutoff for general in jee is mostly near 90-92 percentile and sc/st less then 45 percentile and total 65% seats are reserved and other 35% is not for general but open for others too, So yeah they leave because they are hardworker and wants to spend a prideful life in a notion with better unbaised system. Edit 1: I hope you understand it better what's going on how the native Indians especially Hindus are treated as 3rd class filthy citizens in their own country, so they look outside for better opportunity and respect.
As an Indian born half decade naturalized citizen of the USA, I can vouch for a 100% accuracy of all your points in this video. You sure did your homework. This is also why conservative political leaning should be natural home for Indians but somehow that has not been the case largely, although it is changing as the immigrants' kids grow (example Vivek Ramaswami). We love the USA, our adopted homeland. There is opportunities for everyone if they just apply themselves.
@@kirannnnnn if you know me more than i know me, good for you. Best wishes to you Kiran (which means in hindi "Rays" like in sun rays. But hey, anyone can just Google to find that, right?
Once again Ken, you are killing it with the reporting. You are able to take a topic like racial demographics, immigration, and rates of success and speak plainly about them. I haven't agreed with every view point you have on this channel, but you have inspired me to research these topics on my own more. Please keep doing what you are doing my friend. One day the algorithm will pick you up.
Thanks so much for this. I've had generally low views, but they're definitely picking up. I re-did all the thumbnails and am paying a lot more attention to that in the past month, with some success, so ... we'll see! In the meantime, the only thing that's kept me going over the last year is optimism/stubborness, and comments like yours. Thanks again, Derek. --Ken
Bhai ne chun chun ke worst possible images dikhai hai India ki. Some closet racist, he is. Not a word about India's progress during the years (however slow and frustrating)
@@krutikzimeveryone pays tax my college going daughter who earned just $2000 over summer in an internship has to pay tax. Without taxes how will government function what Indian government need to stop is freebie culture, reservations and welfarism. Who is stopping you from making healthy and hygienic food rather than eating from street vendors.
@@EvolveYourBrain you are seriously needed to evolve your brain. You are lecturing in a manner like you taught your father how to make a woman pregnant.
As an immigrant paying taxes in the US for my entire stay here, more than a decade, there are many taxes we pay for but are not eligible for the benefits. e.g. medicare is not allowed for non-citizens, but we sure have to pay the medicare taxes. if anything, the tax laws are biased against immigrants since their benefits cannot be given to them.
Check your facts before you make radical comments on another nation.. this is the reason why indians progress better then other as we don't insult others....
Indian diaspora thrives becoz they live a fairly practical life and work the real figures. You guyz in contrast look down on others and imagine facts while watching BBC or CNN. There’s no other easier way to describe why Indian people are earning more than yrself and that too in yr own country?
@@Thedarkknight2244 Westerners don't want to smell curry everywhere 🤷🏻 if you love curry so much maybe try visiting India, Ive heard they LOVE curry over there 😉
Interesting. You're the second person who mentioned Hindus vs. Indians of other religious backgrounds. I couldn't find any breakdown of those numbers in the U.S., though, as related to income. So ... what would you say differentiates Hindu Indians coming to the U.S.?
@@ElephantsInRooms India is a geographical identity given by English people. Among all "Kind" of Indians, the most successful "Indians" are of Hindu heritage. At the very core of Sanatani (Hindu) values are, Sacrifice of every kind, Family First, Faith, Tolerance. Seeking knowledge, Control your instinct, Legion to the land than your "faith", Honesty.
@@ElephantsInRooms I am a Design Engineer. I place US constitution above my personal affinities. I actively participate in US politics, to make US better than yesterday.
Sir you need to correct one information. Most of Indians come to USA are from Middle class background in India and it takes very screw turns to get into middle class in USA. Indians are among the all the foreigners who come to USA reach middle class status at fast rate. You do not find Indians coming to USA from poor, Slums etc. Majority of Indians come to USA are middle class back in India. If you do not have money you cannot be educated.
