As a Katycat myself I want nothing more than to see her at the top of the game again but truth is I don’t think she actually wants commercial success again. It seems like she’s happy being a throwback act living a relatively simple mom-centric life, releasing music she enjoys from time to time and I think that can be fine, she’s already a well established legend and icon of pop music and pop culture at large.
@@jonnyharvey yes! She seems much more happy now than she was at the top of her game, I guess success is based on how you measure it. I think she’s focused on her Daisy and it seems to me like that’s were her current life goals are focused. Quite beautiful thing but as pop music consumers not really good news 😅 In the end, whatever makes her happy should be fine!
@@dinahrayhansen4903 who says she doesn’t already have it? The way you measure success can be very different for everyone. She’s a loving mother to a beautiful daughter with a loving partner, many friends, caring family and a big load of money to her name thanks to a culturally reseting career and Pop Music trajectory. I’m pretty sure she considers that success.
I like Katy, but I just don't see her having a big era ever again. What people forget is that even though she was huge in the early 2010's, she never really had a super dedicated fan base the same way her peers did. Like yes, people loved her songs, but they didn't seem to care much for her as a person. Most of her biggest fans were literal children (go back and look at her concerts from back then; a large chunk of the audience is parents with their very young kids). But unlike Ariana or Bieber or Taylor who made increasingly mature music for their audiences as they grew, her music always seemed stuck. Then dropping an album like Witness in 2017, the year of Migos and Travis Scott and Post Malone, just sealed her fate as an artist whose expiration date had already come. But who knows? No one expected Miley to have such a huge hit with Flowers and yet here we are. Maybe she can make something that taps into this current generation's music tastes. I know fans want her to return to the Teenage Dream sound so bad, but that is just not what's gonna get her in people's good graces
She needs to go the Ray of Light route with her next album, where she sings about motherhood and self-introspection. With some dark and serious visuals.
I do think she has it in her to pull a comeback. I think brand new management, quit American idol, work with bonnie again are all vital. Pop rock is a good shout in a short run but it can also backfired as it’s not really a sound that stays on top of the trend that long.
@@jonnyharveyPop rock is really strong in the Indie scene. With pop rock, there's more way for dark and in depth lyricism. And Pop Rock also give rise to many true and core fans. So I think she definitely should go for Pop Rock. It would be like Taylor Swift doing folklore and evermore to go back to her country sounds with a twist of Indie. Same thing Katy's can be like going back to her starting out sound. Now the only problem left is how to get Katy to hear all these🥲
After "Never Really Over" & "Harleys in Hawaii" came out, I was pretty hyped for Katy's next album, but the fact they ended up on "Smile", made no sense. They're both completely sonically and aesthetically different from "Smile" and its entire theme and sound, yet those two are clearly its stand out tracks. If she had just scrapped "Smile"'s sound and theme and followed down the track of Never Really Over and Harleys after the positive reception they got, while it may not of been a "come back" album, it would've gone down a lot better and aged well versus the almost childlike feeling album "Smile" turned out to be. It could've allowed her to explore more of a relaxed pop sound that felt more authentic and didn't involve a character. I almost wish both the singles didn't end up on "Smile" and drag them down with the album.
I fully believe in Katy Perry and her ability to make a comeback but a huge problem is I don’t think her label believes in her. They did no promo for smile, Katy and her team had to do it all. I wish she could leave capitol and go to a label who would at least do the bare minimum for her. She also needs to adapt to streaming culture. But I agree she needs to have an album album where people can take her seriously as an artist
yes Capitol Records/UMG probably see her as an artist who has come to end of their life cycle. I doubt they will make her a priority in the future. Universal has other major female solo artists now.
i feel like the rebrand that you’re talking about was perfectly executed with never really over. it was classic katy but with a more refreshing feel to it, & the music video was something a bit more mature for her but still kept her goofy, campy, & colorful qualities that we know her for. it really could’ve been the perfect comeback but for some reason the song wasn’t really pushed much & smile didn’t come out until almost a year later. whether it was bc of the pandemic, some issues with her team, or maybe it was just never meant to be a heavily promoted song. whatever it was i feel like it was a huge missed opportunity. harleys in hawaii also went viral on tiktok for a moment but they didn’t push that song either.
yes NRO felt like a good update. But as you say it wasn't really executed well for the whole campaign. She went in a few directions for the albums sounds and visuals
I actually think Smile is her best album to date. It's very well executed, sounds polished, has a little Katy quirk in it but is also mature. It sounds like she enjoyed making the album and is completely herself in her best. She managed to rebrand herself as a more adult pop star, the release of the singles and the album were just really badly managed. Had they released Never Really Over, Harley's In Hawaii and then Daisies within like 4-5 months and then the album immediately it could've performed better. Also justice for Small Talk not making it to the album and Cry About It Later and Resilient not being released properly.
I swear the only thing that killed ‘Smile’ was the clown look. It was sadly something that deflected from the content, made it look childish and on top of it appealed to our coulrophobia. I think KP needs to rethink her visual branding before she even attempts branding the music.
If she wants to come back strong; she should still do Pop, (of course) incorporate some Hip Hop and Drill beats with soft, sensual R&B vibes. While also reflecting on her Pop-Rock era from 'One of The Boys'. Plus; she should definitely have some heavy hitters on the album. Taylor Swift for one. That would be a moment fr. 🎉
Katy should stop making bright albums. She could try tapping into making dark aesthetic albums (like dark horse aesthetics) which could serve as a full 180 for her artistry. She should also care on being top of the game and makes lots of fan interaction to garner more fans that could potentially lead into a bigger fanbase. Also, PROMOTION. Promotion is one of the weaknesses in her career. If she is promoted enough with live performances, advertisements, billboards, and other promoting stuff can really help her be successful again.
I've never bought a Katy Perry album but enjoyed the occasional single (E.T., Firework, Swish Swish). Then I completely fell in love with her personality when she was a guest judge on Masterchef Australia in 2020 (Hot N' Cold has been the theme song from the show's debut in 2009 to current day). She was hilarious, kind, self deprecating and so entertaining, mugging direct to camera like she was in an episode of the Office and cracking dirty puns that really showed she knows her Aussie audience. Her turn with a suggestively folded napkin to give her opinion of a dessert is unforgettable and you can tell it's a moment the contestant will treasure forever. I'd recommend any Katy fan that's not seen it check it out - MasterChef Australia: Season 12, Episode 2. RIP Jock. ❤
@@explorewithefrain7305 what didn’t age well exactly? Can you be more specific? Cause I think my career advice aged very well. She did the total opposite & it failed.
I wouldn’t describe myself as a Katy Perry fan… However I’ve liked and enjoyed listening to all her albums. In my opinion she’s an extremely talented pop-hit-songwriter. In my opinion it would be interesting seeing her explore a more sexier seductive mature pop sound and instead of the happy-humorist-quirky sound. Maybe a true evolution of “witness sprinkled with beautiful and emotional ballads”.
Honestly, I think her time is pretty much done. She had a meteoric rise, but time waits for no one. If she did make a more serious, socially conscious album, Rhythm Nation is the blueprint on how it's done in pop music. I'm not sure if she could pull something like that off though.
This might sound weird but maybe she could make a comeback with KP0. If you don’t know, before One Of The Boys, she had 2 shelved albums, Fingerprints and A, and tracks from both would end up on OOTB. I think if she mashed A and Fingerprints together, re-recorded the songs and then released an alternate/deluxe version with the original 2004 versions, along with never before seen pictures from that time. Then, she could use that momentum to boost up KP6, and maybe she could really solidify it with a “Taylor’s Version” with the 16th anniversary of Teenage Dream. Re-record Teenage Dream, maybe release some vault tracks and name it “Sweet 16 Anniversary” or something. Also this insane, but since we’re going with the best possible chance, since Katy’s known for her videography, maybe even she could re-record the Teenage Dream MVs, along with new MVs for some of the b sides, Peacock, Circle The Drain and Hummingbird Heartbeat being the most obvious ones.
I've been a Katycat and I really want some new music from her and want to see her comeback in the music industry again but we must accept the fact that sometimes artist's have a time to rise and after that golden period is gone, you can't get the same relevancy. Katy had iconic eras and has achieved every big milestone in her career as she should and there's very little possibility of her returning after the flop of Smile. Her label has stopped believing in her, she seems to be having no plans on releasing an album and it's still all good.. We should respect her decision of not wanting to continue as a 'main pop-girl' anymore.
I think it is not fair to compare the longevity of madonna, cher, etc with today's artists like Gaga, Perry. Because back then you could had a long career. Now the industry has changed thanks to internet now one day you could be at the top and then being forgot, now we have a lot of competition.
She needs a new PR team, a publicist, creative director, marketing team (with fresh, modern & smart ideas) and team up with new producers. But foremost, she needs to leave that damn record label. Like i don't even mind her being busy with American Idol since that's the only thing keeping her relevant nowadays. I would love for Katy to make an entire disco, synth-funk, nu-disco album à la Jessie Ware or Roisin Murphy + embrace maturity, motherhood and adulthood in her lyricism (Jessie Ware is the same age as Katy and those are the common themes in her newest music. Those are also the topics Madonna used to discuss around the Ray Of Light era when she was about the same age as Katy). The potential she has is insane, she just needs to play her cards right. If i didn't put an emphasis on PR team and the power that a positive image holds on an artist's likeness, let me do it right know: Why do y'all think that Taylor Swift became such a phenomenon after the pandemic? After the reputation era, Taylor's team (Tree Paine, 13 management + associates) learned that the key to an artist's success is equivalent to how the general public perceives that said artist. Taylor's team has mastered this tactic to perfection: Since the folklore era, we have been bombed with positive articles after positive articles about Taylor, all strategically posted and paid by her team to build Taylor's persona and generate public sympathy towards herself. hence her current popularity and her massive appeal.
Katy could go either 2 ways. MARIAH, Glitter failed and Charmbraclet didnt do anything. However Emancipation was a massively successful comeback. Or Xtina, who after Bionic never could catch fire again even though has a good sized loyal fanbase.
I liked Smile. It was a happy pop album which kept me going during the pandemic like Future Nostalgia did. But I agree with you that there was no cohesiveness - seemed like random tracks from different studio sessions thrown together. Katy still has a profile because of American Idol so she has that on her favour to mount a musical comeback. I think work with one or two primary producers or songwriters to maintain a cohesive sound and stick to a more mature pop sound.
I think the era that most artists that came out around the time as Katy did have fizzled out for them. I don't think they can bounce back, maybe except for Gaga.
Katy’s Top 40 career is done (save for a guest spot as a featuring artist), but that’s ok. The music business burn’s people out; with only a financial reward. I’m happy to have a bop by her once a year. As long as she’s happy.
She needs better marketing. On Witness, it was marketed as a purposeful pop album, but then Katy still made “dumb” music and music videos like Bon Appetit and Swish Swish, which clearly tried pandering to the younger generation. It was a mess of an era + her beef with Taylor didn’t help either. The album overall was more personal and experimental than it was purposeful. Then Smile, it felt like the team didn’t know what they were doing. 365’s leak hurt the single performance, which the label should’ve released it early instead of holding off. Never Really Over had potential, but was squandered by lack of promo. Then after that, they were just throwing darts to see which songs would be singles, almost like the team didn’t have confidence in Katy anymore after Witness. Smile came and went, and then she had minor success with When I’m Gone, but did well with her Vegas show. At this point, I don’t know what she will do. Maybe she will just drop music for fun now instead of aiming for success. Considering she is a mother now, and her last two eras tainted her image, as well as the label not confident in her anymore.
I think Witness is her best album, but she released wrong singles to promote it. I think with hits it's all about the right place and the right time. I also think that Rise is a brilliant song, which was totally ignored by everyone. When it comes to lyrics, I don't think a pop star needs to sing about serious issues, especially politics.
YES! Witness was so good but not well promoted and the singles were all wrong / didn't represent the album well. I still think Witness deserves the renaissance that Artpop has received in recent years.
Katy Perry should take notes of Miley Cyrus Endless Summer Vacations. She's fitting the genre. She can be seen as more mature, still have the fun codes we known her for . Summer Anthem, folk ballad, space country, pop adult, r&b alternative, pop/rock..
I feel like she could definetly have a decently sized comeback album if she followed a similar sound to songs like “Harleys in Hawaii”, “The One That Got Away”, “Legendary Lovers”, and perhaps songs similar to those on One of the Boys. I do also think that she could definetly benefit from collaborating with newer artists that have risen in popularity in recent years which would allow new listeners to engage with her music, as the newer generation isn’t very familiar with her apart from a few “fabulous for a throwback” songs (iykyk). Great video, and I agreed with basically everything that you said! I truly do hope that we see at least one more great Katy Perry era in the near future, I do believe that she has it in her. 😁
I'm sorry but I'm still completely shook at Witness technically being a flop. I am 27 but at the time, I totally loved the songs & videos. No lie, they are still on my current playlists 😂 i love swish swish & bon appetit.... I like basically all the songs i heard from that era. I don't understand what went wrong 🤔
I don't know what's wrong with her last few singles like 365, Harleys in hawaii, NRO, WIG they all are great but never appreciated. Specially NRO and Harleys in hawaii deserves to be song of the year. Nothing is wrong with Katy she gave us everything people just create hate for her in their mind for no reason.
Witness was a success for anyone else. It was just overshadowed. It still was the fastest album to reach #1, made her the highest earning female artist of 2017, and even had a #1 in the UK plus Bon Appetit having over 1B views
I think the truth is even she knows the world is a different place now and the music landscape is completely different too and she's ok with that. If she does release more music it will be for us OG Katy Cats, not a new younger "current" audience so we probably can expect something along the lines of her usual kitschy campy anthemic catalog because that's what we loved about her and she probably knows she can't relate to the new generation because they are in a completely different chapter of life and that's ok too. I'll be happy with a "typical" Katy Perry album for KP6, I just want it to be cohesive.
I wouldn’t call myself a fan of hers but is VERY CLEAR that alarm bells are going off in KPs head that her status as an “A-Lister” is literally receiving its Last Rights while on life support. Gaga got the hint after ArtPop that her over the top, campy, persona was getting old & changed it while remaining uniquely Gaga and is enjoying her status as one of the greatest artists ever Katy… umm purposefully pop? GrubHub? Selling her catalog for WAY UNDERVALUED?
Yes Gaga and her manager handled the Artpop situation expertly. And she did really well to maintain her career and comeback. Katy just seems lost career wise. But very rich, so I'm sure she will be fine.
There’s no reason she should ditch pop , it’s working very well for Troye and Kylie. She just needs to work with some underground producers so it’s alittle left field tone down on the belting choruses to catch the vibey music Demand. Records like Peggy Gou latest one and B.O.T.A have that underground quirky charm with pop appeal and I think Katy could pull it off, Katy is missing a very experimental album like Kylie and Madonnas 90s work with William Orbit. Rita Ora made this mistake with her latest album sticking to the formula and she has lost that appeal in her projects
Absolutely agree with this commentary. Indeed gone are the days of the Teenage Dream and Prism pop formula. Katy has to evolve her brand. She probably needs to bring some new talent into her team to help her craft an updated image. I think she can find mainstream success again if she truly wants it.
I am sure it was very hard to top Prism and Teenage Dream,2 great pure pop eras,I think she may have done better going the way of Taylor Swift more adult orientated pop,I also think Taylor took away some of those Katy fans who couldn't connect with the Witness album and political stance,I'll never forget Katy's Brits performance with the Trump/May effigies and being really irked by it,she can do it but she's a brand and it could be a case of she is only as good as the people she works with.
This is a really good analysis! I'm also convinced that she can have a big comeback again, but she needs to do a collab with a trending artist like Dua Lipa or Ice Spice or with someone that's also on top of the game (like Taylor swift) to give her that attention again. This was also the case for Lady gaga, who got another number one in 2020 with Ariana Grande
As much as people don't want to admit it, the only way for Katy to make a huge comeback is to work with Dr. Luke again. He understands her better than any other producer. They have great history and chemistry together. Dr. Luke would welcome her back with open arms. The holdup is just a matter of does Katy want the backlash in exchange for a potential number one single/album, which is not out of the question with Dr. Luke and his super team as her main producers. If I were a part of Katy's team, I'd say go for it now that the Kesha lawsuit is finally settled.
They go back a very long way - I think they knew each other from when she worked with the Matrix. Some people just mesh & that’s okay too. They bring out the best in each other - Janet & Jam & Lewis, TLC & Dallas Austin
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I'm afraid with Katy going Pop-Rock in KP6 as it can be a hit (hopefully a success) or a miss (ppl would think she's being immature by mimicking Olivia's pop-rock songs) She's got an incredible deep voice so I can see an album with dark-pop, chill, trappy songs idk - the public loved Dark Horse and Harley's in Hawaii, and I'd love seeing Katy in the charts again teeheehee
Also, if she promotes her songs on tik tok there is a big chance her song(s) go(es) viral. Just like her songs 'Harleys in Hawaii' which is one of her biggest songs from Smile. And this can give her a big peak again.
Didn't a music critic recently admit that he made negative criticisms about Katy Pery especially her Witness album because he was told by his bosses to do so? That really hurt Katy's music career at that time.
I wish she would put an alternative pop rock album. She can take inspirations from these albums: Breakaway/Stronger - Kelly Clarkson Jagged Little Pill - Alanis Morisette Let Go / Underneath My Skin - Avril Lavigne Riot / Brand New Eyes / After Laughter - Paramore Songs About Jane - Maroon 5 How To Save A Life - The Fray
I think they are great reference points. But maybe she doesn't have the songwriting chops to pull it off. She already worked with Glen Ballard (Jagged Little Pill) so I think that's a great suggestion.
The truth is since Rise in 2016, She started getting sabotaged by the industry. Also Gaga and kesha so cleverly broke her backbone that time and thrown away dr. luke from her career.
She has released some good songs over the years that unfortunately didn't chart. Never Really Over should have charted higher in the US, but people are so shallow & sheepish they always follow the trend.
It is all about who she collaborates with. This is how Madonna and Kylie keep going. She also has to want to work hard for that success. I don't think she was really trying with Smile. She has to work hard with well chosen songwriters and producers and produce a cohesive album. With Smile she had released a lot of standalone singles in the year or so before. When the album came out I expected all fresh material but they dumped those previous singles on there too, which felt like a cop out. Some of the other tracks felt like filler too. But then she was pregnant for most of it. How focused was she? The album came out the same time she gave birth during a pandemic so promoting was out of the picture. On top of that the artwork was terrible. For someone who can look so glamorous it was a stupid decision to put her in a clown's nose. So that album was lazily put together and badly marketed and promoted. She can easily make a comeback but she needs good collaboration and she actually has to work hard and want it. I heard she only recorded 15 tracks for Teenage Dream because she didn't want to do more. Kylie (for example) will record heaps of tracks for an era and then choose the best ones. Let's see what happens when she finishes Play. If she really wants it she can make a comeback.
She probably doesn't really want it and that's fine too. I wouldn't blame her- she's a mother now & has other priorities. It must have been very hard releasing a record whilst pregnant.
I'm gonna add my 10 cents on this talk. I wish her next album doesn't have the intention to make her the biggest popstar again. I would be thrilled if it is a pop rock album with themes that connect to her fan base and still talks to the new generations, but it should not be target mainly to the new public. She should not try to compete with Olivia, Biily, Ariana or Taylor. I don't think it would work.
Tbh a lot of your suggestions just lack common sense and lived experience. You're unhappy she sings about her depression and alcoholism because she's rich (?), but that's her lived experience. She's close to 40 so she's not going to have that teenage angst to create that punk/pop sound she had. If you actually listened to Witness, you can hear the punk rock mixed in with the edm sounds. As far as Luke/Max or any of their ilk, all they really know how to do is borrow from decades past and disguise it as something new😆 If you listen to a lot of different kinds of music from different decades you can easily hear what they're borrowing...at least I can easily hear it. Max borrows heavily from current Swedish melodic metal...if only the vikings knew🤣 The leaked songs like Method to My Madness were likely axed by the executives, eventhough they are very good songs, so I don't think her instincts are bad, I think perhaps it's a bit of sabotage. I think the next album won't come out anytime soon & it will probably sound funky like Smile😉
@@jonnyharvey 🤣No need to take it personal then, it's meant for learning. Did you actually say for her to work with Antonoff? I remember him eating a banana while Katy was hosting the mtv awards. He's part of the hate train against her...are you unaware of that too?
Janet & Rihanna Are my favorite artist to show these girls how to EVOLVE like “This is how I’m feeling RIGHT NOW!-get into it!!” Just looking at the album covers is like a whole different person!❤️🔥✨🦋✨🌺
There are some excellent songs on Smile, idk why it didn't get attention or love. She should totally go back to her rock sound similar to One Of The Boys. She even did it again with song Circle The Drain. I do totally agree that her albums have no cohesion and the songs are all so different.
with the latest single released, the decision to work with Dr. Luke and the hate she is receiving, I really don't think she will return to the limelight, in fact, there is a risk that her career will be definitively killed😭
@@giuseppesenatore6053 I think she has killed her career as a major music player now unfortunately. I’m sure she will still be around on TV & she’ll make albums that don’t have much impact
@@jonnyharvey the regret is that her career went into decline not so much for the music itself (because in any case she also managed to obtain certifications for Witness and Smile and the views of the songs are high, albeit to a lesser extent compared to the times in which she was at the top) as much as for the bad decisions she made that ruined her. This one from Dr. Luke is the worst of all. From another point of view, however, I feel like saying that, no longer having the pressure of having to release successful albums, her music can return to being more personal and more authentic, perhaps finally convincing the critics that she is a 'valid artist and not simply a product of industry
@@PianoHits However she has to try because staying in the same sound as she did on last albums would be even worse. At least she should try to change something.
@@imeprezime1456 pop dosent mean doing the same sound, I think people see pop as such a limited genre but it can borrow from so many influences and Kylie keeps proving that without needing to go rock. It’s just about incorporating genres , she is too late in her career to reestablish rock demand. Would work for Kelly Clarkson but not Katy
@@PianoHits Well Katy is bery simmilar to Kelly way more than Kylie. Katy shoud at lesst try to do something like Hot n cold or Roar, more guitars and drums, and less beats and synths.
@@imeprezime1456 actually her songs like bon appetite, feels, Harley’s in Hawaii have performed very well in recent years even though they weren’t ‘hits’ at time and they all use her breathier tone.
@@jonnyharveywitness was katy’s Alanis era (she loved jagged little pill, so much to work with glenn ballard). Smile was her younger now and Joanne era (to rebrand her to the general public as a normal woman, just a mom). I don’t know if Katy has much freedom or even wants to be a big star anymore and release a teenage dream. She can’t do 80s disco, that’s dua’s and little outdated now. She can do maybe an acoustic/country album? White america/American idol fans love that. I don’t know if the general public want a pop rock Katy, cause she’s aged out of teen angst. Is the only option left for her is edm? I mean Katy why not just make a kids album lol 😅😅
i think she needs an Adele album. something that shows off her vocals and depth as well as strong lyrics which she usually has but is covered up by over production and extreme pop persona. I think a pop/soul record would be very mature and mark it as movement foreword.
I want to say a lot of things here in comments section, but I ll just say that I admire you so much and you really know how to speak well! You expressed all my thoughts in this video and you re so right! From Katy being a singles artist to the lack of credibility wich she faced the entire time❤ Awesome video!❤
1 of the issues was Katy waited too long between Prizm & Witness. She should have put both albums closer together. She should have stayed working with Max & Bonnie.
I agree I feel like she should go to her pop/rock roots but have a good marketing campaign behind her performances, social media also make it her own not generic
Witness was a huge rebrand actually. Going from TD's colorful, bubblegum sound/visuals to Witness's edgy futuristic vibe is a leap most artists wouldn't be brave enough to execute. Even sonically Witness sounded nothing like Prism and TD. I agree with the rest of the video except for this one point.
She should do a single with Kylie or Christina Aguilera, Katy loves Kylie and Kylie could get her back on the charts and they would fit well in a clabb....
I don’t think she really cares about a comeback era or a another chart hit era. Hope u realize that. She just living her life as a mom now and popstar after. If she doesn’t want it it’s not gonna happen.
Yes I say that at the end. She probably doesn't care anymore and that's cool too. If I was her, I would be totally over it. Trekking around the world to sell a record can't be much fun either.
Perhaps a controversial opinon - I think if she wants big or even moderate success again I think the path is Dr Luke. Like some other comments, I think going back to her pop rock roots is likely the best move, especially with the sound waves Olivia Rodrigo is making right now. There was no better producer at that sound than Dr. Luke. I know there will be backlash online but the general public just doesn't care about controversey. Doja Cat's last 2 albums were full of Dr Luke produced singles. If the music is good, people don't care who produced it.
They had really good chemistry. They go back a long way from when Katy was working with the Matrix, apparently. I don't think Max Martin has gone back to working with Dr Luke? I know Kelly Clarkson & Pink refuse to work with him also. I really can't say - I don't know the finer details of the situation.
I agree that the pop rock sound is waiting fo her but i strongly disagree with the coment about her needing to collab again with her old team, going back to your old team is not artistic growth at all. She has had tons of artisic growh aver the years, people just don respect her enough to see it, people dont want o see it
Bonnie already said on Twitter that she's not back (minus a last minute add on) for the new album. And Dr Luke was practically confirmed as being back for the new project in a Rolling Stone article that came out last month. They've always been very good friends, she just strayed away from him to avoid backlash during the litigation, but with the drop of the allegations, only chronically online stans will care about them working together again, the GP surely won't. Especially now that's she desperately needs a smash hit and that the demand/nostalgia for her TD era is very high. Going pop rock would be a suicide since it's not what really skyrocketed her to stardom + it's a genere that doesn't last long on the charts and pops up with a couple of hits sporadically. Th only problem with her is the worng/bad/lack of promotion, something her peers labels are doing extremely well. The organic success of NRO, CTTR and HIH going viral multiple times are proof that her formula CAN still work, but she needs to be backed with good ass promo.
oh thanks for this info. I follow Bonnie on Twitter, I didn't see that. I am going to google that about Dr Luke now. It wouldn't have to be pure pop rock. Miley Cyrus is doing rock tinged music at the moment and I think that could suit Katy. But it's interesting to hear other opinions. Yes she has had viral moments - need a record company behind you to give you the big push.
@@jonnyharvey idk, personally I'd prefer her flopping but still doing her signature fun pop sound than a boring ass record like ESV (that also kinda tanked outside of the US, except for Flowers). Guess we'll have to wait and see, hopefully a lead will come soon, then we'll see what approach to her career she's decided to take
i think pop/rock or country would be too big of a risk for katy. she should capitalize on the pop that made her the superstar she is, but make it more mature, think of like a confessions/fever/what's your pleasure type dance record. she can still keep her quirkiness but also make music that people could enjoy, particularly the gay community. with good collaborations, promo, single choices, etc. she could have a great comeback on her hands
Katy’s a tough one. I feel like the GP just doesn’t really care for her that much anymore. She’s still a legend and teenage dream is one of the best pop eras of all time, but I fear she’s just not gonna cut it anymore. The liberals hate her. The conservatives hate her. I could see her having big songs if she collaborated with current hot artists. I could see her collabing with Taylor, Ice Spice, or a country artist and getting a hit.
As a KatyCat (btw since 2017) I almost cried at the end of the video The happiest and brightest artist of all time has the saddest story of all time...this is the conclusion😭😭😭
I don't think it's a sad conclusion.... if anything I think it's a very happy ending. She happy, healthy, lovely husband and kid and she's a very, very rich lady.
I agree about max Martin but DEFINITELY not Bonnie. Katy herself is a much better writer and one of the boys, the one that got away, prism etc are all proofs of that. Bonnie has back talked and shaded Katy multiple times and always trying to lay claim to the few songs she helped co write. There’s a reason Katy doesn’t acknowledge her anymore and I think thats way more important than just for the sake of the teenage dream nostalgia. She has several hits without Bonnie like firework and dark horse, her biggest songs aswell as others like Harley’s in Hawaii, chained to the rythm and never really over which are great songs too. I think cirkut, Charlie puth, etc are all good aswell as producers from witness which has her best production
Personally Witness and Smile are released in the wrong time. Witness was ahead of its time while Smile was so outdated. Her cutting her hair short was a huge mistake too. People really like her colorful long haired wigs and for Witness I wish she went back to her black haired era. It would give her more mature and serious look which I think what she wanted people to do for that era since she talked about social issues and politics. For KP6, she has 2 options to choose, she can either risk it all again and start her own trend or going back to her roots which the one you discussed pop/rock genre. I'm not sure with my current observation, but I kinda think the 90's era is slowly starting to comeback. With people liking Ariana Grande's leaked demo of Fantasize which is a heavily influenced by the 90's pop music and western girl groups like Flo releasing music that sounded like 90's and even collaborated with Missy Elliot. I feel like Katy could embodied it if she takes this route, but I wish it would be big like her Teenage Dream era. However, that's way too risky as I can see artists are still testing the waters if bringing back the 90s sound would work since the 80s thing worked. For collaborators, I really want her to work with Miley Cyrus if she decides to do Pop/Rock era. Miley is doing good right now and it would really be a big help for Katy if she collaborate with her. If she decided to do the 90s pop sound route, she really should collaborate with the legendary Britney Spears herself. Imagine doing a 90s pop era and collaborating with one of the biggest artists in that era! Lastly I want her to collaborate with Ariana Grande. With her 2 years musically hiatus people miss her and Tiktok proves it by making every leaked song of hers viral. Taking advantage of people' thirst for new Ariana music would be a perfect route for Katy too.
