Some Kentuckians insured under the Affordable Care Act share fears and hopes for the future as House GOP leaders try to negotiate a new health care bill.
My jaw is still resting on the ground. That lady hates obama for "trying to take coal jobs away" yet it is the coal that is killing her husband, and it is Obama who is literally the reason her husband still lives. Gobsmacked. Absolutely jaw-droppingly gobsmacked at the attitude of these people.
You can't fix stupid... And these folks are just that. The very thing that's killing you.. You wanna keep??? I have a hard time feeling any compassion for them
NightWing Agreed. He showed these people he was a con man for a year and more. If he was a guy who was previously stable, not a scammer, had gotten results, worked with others, etc., then I would understand them being duped.
Thankfully I don't have to live under the US healthcare system but I do feel pity for all the sick people who weren't taken in by Trump but are going lose their coverage because of these gullible, poorly informed and xenophobic people. That she thinks the coal industries decline is not due to automation and cheaper alternative power but is down to 'Obama's had a war on coal' and that Trump is now going to bring coal jobs back, the very work that has made her husband ill is beyond retarded but it shows right-wing propaganda works.
WkInPrgrss same here...hate these poor white people in the middle of America sucking my tax dollars away to treat their shitty diseases. Lose some fucking weight while you're at it.
We have free healthcare here in Scandinavia, and throughout Europe. But $ 6000 for that medication, it would still cost only $ 50 for the government here in Europe. Somebody robs the taxpayers in the US
Dankthrone 88 yeah that's right if you are not well travelled or properly educated regarding these things. When I hear short brown man I imagine a short man that is brown. It could be any brown person... Indian, Pakistani, Madagascan, etc. I guess your environment really does shape your mentality and thought processes. The world is HUGE! Expand your mentality. 🤗
Tom Jensen I just watched a video that explains this: the difference in the US pharma industry compared to the rest of the world is that their legislation doesn't demand a cap for prices of treatment drugs or exams. Unlike Europe, Australia or Canada, for example, the American law allows pharmaceutical companies to set their own price. You would expect the competition made the prices go down, but instead they keep going up, since lowering prices to real production costs in such a market would mean losing money. If all American pharma determines the cost of drugs should be within a certain interval, and they all agree, the prices remain high. That's what happens without regulation. America loves it that the Government stays out of their business, but that sort of behaviour results in economic bubbles, which end up bursting into disasters like the 2008 crisis. I'll take my good old European socialized medical care any day, thank you very much.
Trump is desperate. He’s already working on privatizing the post office and despite saying he wouldn’t cut social security or Medicare, cuts to both programs are in his budget. And when did a President “saying what’s on his mind “ become a virtue? You want a president that speaks the TRUTH and does what what he says, not a pathological liar. And to show you how ignorant these people are she is complaining that the only thing Obama did for them was to literally save her husband’s life. I can’t think of anything better than that. If Trump would have gotten his way, her husband would be dead. And she wants MORE coal jobs even though she sees what it did to him. Every breath is a struggle for him. He will die prematurely because of those coal mines yet she has no concerns about sacrificing others who will suffer the same fate. The decline of coal has accelerated since Trump took office and more companies have shut down. It is a dying industry and the handwriting has been on the wall for some time. Trump mades promises to those people he couldn’t keep. So him saying “what’s on his mind” hasn’t seem to benefited her at all, but she’s sure to vote for him again for some of that “hope.” Next year he might be successful in ending Obamacare.
Nappinnai Nallan Chakravarthy, Absolutely right, and, as I stated in a recent post, particularly so if that ignorance is Willful Ignorance, (Stupidity). Be Well
Nappinnai. Exactly, and this is not a "party" issue. These people have been abandoned by BOTH major political parties. Their livelihoods are gone, and no one has helped them survive in the new economy.
Amnon, I thought so initially but saw recently that the Dems put out a plan when they coal was going the way of the dodo that would give tax incentives and school credit options to help those workers get different jobs. There's a huge push for tech and trucking jobs in a lot of these mining towns by those previous workers. They say that coal jobs have been slowly coming back, but are starting to meet less workers since they found real technical educations.
I guess they don't value their lives, it's evidence that they rather die than to give credit to president Obama, now that sounds like racist to me. You think.
For starters, the red parts of Kentucky outnumbers the blue. He's never helped this state. People in her part of Kentucky are prejudice or racist. McConnell hasn't done a damn thing for this state EVER. Why they keep voting for him is beyond me.
Shenita Gazaway He wouldn’t be able to help out your pathetic state without taking extra that blue states provide into the federal pot, now if each state had their own separate pot states like Kentucky would be up shits creek without a paddle, and as long as the red states are mooching off the blue states you have life without the help that blue states that provide you with the extra we put in you have nothing.
Queen Daxylew Tradition. For them, these coal jobs are part of their family identity. They want it to remain that way even though it's killing them. So way big, black Obama starts a 'war on coal,' not only is he taking away their livelihood but he's taking away their identity.
lavinder11 Well even though they are dying by coal doesn't mean the rest of us want to. The use of coal and fossil fuels is killing our planet. And I'm sorry, if coal is a part of your identity but it caused you and your family a painful death, you should look into a new career. Supporting this way of thinking isn't healthy either.
Queen Daxylew. They're not crazy. They're woefully uneducated and, as a result, astoundingly dumb. Just the combination Conservative governments love as they're as simple to control as sheep in a field.
+arogthergroit Yes, the reality is that I don't care so much for these people. I actually think the world will be a better place when they no longer exist (judge me as you will). However, I do feel for people like yourself, who knew what Trump was all about, and voted accordingly, only to have these morons thrust upon you what you always knew would happen if Trump was elected. And then to not even have the guts to admit you were wrong and that, not only your husband will probably die, but countless thousands of others because of THEIR stupid pride and ignorance. I feel for you deeply, and hope that Congress vote down the Trump Administration's 'amendments', or perhaps 'reductions' is a more of an appropriate description.
Listen to the excuses they make for trump...oh he has not had enough time. Listen to words he wants the program gone and his voucher program good luck with that.
They are always going to vote against their best interest as long as it involves the chance to hate someone,because of their race.good luck with your loving coal dust, you seem to love it more than you do mankind and humanity, you can’t make it make sense , just pure racism at its DUMBEST.
1. Thinking coal jobs are coming back is like wishing that cars were replaced by horse-drawn carriages. It won't happen. 2. These people will suffer the most under Trumpcare. It's horrifying.
She said Obama waged a war on coal when I believe what actually happened was a market shift around what became much cheaper natural gas. Ignorance is scary.
I would have to agree with you. It's the same when a company uses a computer or robot to do the job of ten people because production is more efficient. Place blame on the trend or the worker not being educated enough to operate the computer or robot.
I live in another area of ky and we've been trying to get rid of him for years but somehow he won't go. The area I'm from is the most populated area of ky and I know of no one here that wants him in office. I'm no fan of elections being stolen rumors but sadly the thought of Mitchs election time again has a bad smell to it.
These poor folks are too ignorant to understand the big picture. This industry is killing her husband -- yet she wants those jobs to come back (and somehow that was Obama's fault that they were lost? Hello, ever hear of cheap natural gas?). Any clue about green industries replacing coal jobs --- nah!?
All I can do is shake my head at this woman! That is the most ignorant statement I've heard in my life! She should've just said "Thank you saving my husband's life but I still hate your black ass" and been real about it!
this made me laugh so hard , but i still do feel sorry for them stupid trump supporters even though he said that he will repeal and "replace" O-care from day-1
monex5 - me too, I just cannot get inside their heads. The only thing I can think is that they are just in massive denial and too proud to admit they were wrong. But, I'm with you, I simply cannot fathom their mentality.
monex hopefully the Republicans will repeal obamacare and next month's medicine won't get paid for and will see how they like their Republican congressman then
every word that lady said contradicted itself. she wants coal jobs back.. the exact job that gave her husband black lung.. does she not listen to herself speak??
JD Ford - She's stupid. She might as well demand the buggy whip industry be bailed out. Coal is over and out, and why they prefer dirty jobs that kill them in their 40s over clean jobs in the booming solar industry ... I just don't know. Their hatred for the black president is something they cling to like a life raft.
If I might interject a view from the outside. Yes coal mining is a dangerous job. I had an uncle who died of black lung. But don't call good people idiots because they're doing the only job they can. Since time began people earned their living doing jobs that shortened their lives, or at least put them in danger. But with the other options being destitution and starvation, what are they to do? My mother's side of the family comes from a coal mining town. We lost 26 coal miners in 1992. It's no longer an industry here, thank God, but the area suffers economically. And while its easy to say they should move or get another job, it rarely is. Not every coal miner will get black lung or die in a collapse. But it is the risk they take, just as a soldier risks death on the battlefield, and a firefighter risks burning alive. My experience has showed me that most coal miners would take another, less dangerous job, and those who do it do it because it's their heritage, it's what they know, and it's where they live. But don't call them idiots.
Ingrid Kindred You can go any place in our Nation and find folks for and against Obamacare. This is nothing new. Just another Propaganda video. The left and right use such videos.
...so what your saying is, Hillary would make a good president. LOL! Now THAT would be "absolutely stupid". In this election, it wasn't the fault of the voters. TRUMP LIED TO EVERYONE. He made it worse. The people who are not in the newly rich elite swamp have no power over what's happening now.
Sanaa Jade Yes, it comes from years of working in mines (poor to no ventilation, no respiratory protection). They prob don't have a clue as to why they want to bequeath the same profession to their children, grands, & greats. That's stupid. What you don't see are black ppl crying over lost, killer, mining jobs.
You know it isn't the idea of healthcare it is the idea it has the OBAMA name on it and trump is trying to erase OBAMA from history. He is so jealous of OBAMA that he can't sleep at night. OBAMA had better grades than trump in college, OBAMA has a loving wife and trump doesn't. OBAMA has a much better body and is better looking then trump. Bottom line OBAMA is more of a level headed mature minded decent man then the goof trump.
Yep imagine if the horse and carriage industry lobbied to keep cars off the street or the oil industry lobbied against electricity. Progress needs to be embraced and utilized to move forward not backward.
Watchtoons Rex Just FYI Check out the solar thermal energy program in the United Arab Emirates. As of 2017 they have developed a solar thermal energy lant that produces electricity cheaper than local natural gas. It works swo well they are going to double its size. I am well aware of the differences in climate but, lithium ion and graphene batteries are still developing and, in certain regions, they are cheaper than fossil fueled power plants. )
Black and brown ppl have been struggling with these choices for decades. Now these ppl are struggling with these choices and it's unfair. I just can't....
bbookzable - Yeah, that's the reality of it, these people are extremely uneducated. And instead of sitting around lamenting the fact that the coal jobs are gone (which had nothing to do with Obama), perhaps they could have been proactive and upskilled in something else so that the loss of the coal jobs would simply mean they could move into a new industry. I'm not talking anything amazing, but get a forklift licence or truck-driver's licence. There's any number of things these people could do to improve their situation, but the one thing they can't improve? The loss of their healthcare coverage...the most important thing of all. Regardless, I agree with you these uneducated people are beyond saving and WILL die as a result of their lack of education and pig-pigheadedness.
The failing coal industry they cite as the reason for hating Obama is the very thing that caused her husbands Black Lung Disease. I'm not a huge fan of Obama but their rational for disliking him makes zero sense. He didn't destroy the coal industry on his own, it was already dying because there are better energy alternatives for a number of reasons such as the illnesses and environmental damage it causes.
She didn't notice the republican party being absolute cunts for the entire 8 years and tried to do everything to make sure Oba,ma failed? They even shut the government down in 2013 because he wouldn't de-fund Obamacare. She can swivel! Dumb bitch!
carolyn carter ~ Like a fiddle...and they don’t even see it. Trump: “Gonna bring back coal jobs & abolish Obama-care!” Wife: “Coal mining has destroyed my husband’s health..but Thank God Obama-care covers the monthly $6,000 meds” Me: “ Ummm... WHAT?!?? 😳”
Renewable energy took your job, your jobs are in China/Mexico or is currently being replaced my a robot. Say goodbye 👋 because those jobs are never coming back
Please I would like to see their faces when Trump will sign the bill to repeal ObamaCare. Also, can you please send an journalist their at that moment to ask how they feel about Obama now.....
President Obama made a good difference, never mind what the closed minded people think. He did a lot of good, the republicans are at fault for knocking down And voting against a lot of his ideas. COalmining should have been closed down decades ago, Black lung disease has been going on for years. The environment has been damaged due to this also. Trump should spend a week in a coal mine, he wouldn’t be orange when he surfaced.
I agree I mean Obama care has flaws but it is a starting point so that Congress and the president now keep working on it and make it better. People are so stupid and selfish this should not be a black and white issue Obama care is not completely bad and if we keep working on it and make it better this would benefit all Americans. Moreover, the pharmaceutical industry is making so much money off of us and if Congress stopped working for them and started listening to the people that elected them than we could have universal health care as many other advanced countries do. But sadly we're all paying for the ignorance of this people.
First off, "How stupid can people really be?" Your husband (who you say you love) is dying due strictly to his job (hauling coal) who is now too sick to work (at all) and you hate the one person who pushed the implementation of a medical care system (which was a GOP policy at it's birth under Romney) which has now become the only thing saving your husband's life?"
AND if they get disability THAT'S a DEMOCRAT bill. The Democrats gave them Social Security and all that comes with it. I hope they all croak. Ignorant Hillbillies.
@@chakra9644 Social security is earned, Jack ass. You pay into it every single check. I guess you don't plan on living into your golden years. Or just ain't smart enough to see that far down the road. You NEVER know what is going to happen. Someday, it may be you, or someone you care about who needs one of these programs. Bait and switch.. greedy politicians got you distracted from looking at the big picture.
Ironically, Korean carmakers provude Americans jobs by manufacturing their cars in the US. Hyundai has a production plant in Montgomery Alabama. And Kia has another in Georgia.
jmorris023 My prediction: He’s dead She’s working at McDonalds. She plans on voting trump in 2020, doesn’t mind not having medical insurance. Neither smartened up.
coal doesn not sell anymore. There are no markets so where is the "coal comeback" going to sell the stuff? If feel sorry for these gullible people, but they have nothing else. A responsible democrat could maybe get some solar jobs in, but that might take skill and education. Kentucky is not known for that. McConnell is a local cancer.
How stupid are these people, "he took away my job that is also causing me health issues." This must be how God feels when he answers prayers. Your way of life has been phased out, move or find a new product to contribute.
that lady said I voted for Trump because I thought he would make Obamacare better not repeal it even tho Trump literally said he would repeal Obamacare every chance he got.
Exactly. She voted for Trump because he was white & not because she believed he was going to make Obama care better. Even when white people are dying they still chose to 'go out' lying.
They're just stupid. Trump ran on repeal and replace Obamacare, which it is really called ACA. But because it had Obama's name attached to it they voted for Trump. All because of their hatred for Obama. They deserve everything they get.
Maybe she doesn't know the definition of repeal. The word DOES sound like "repeat" .. (two of). Maybe she thought that "Bankrupt " trump was gonna make obamacare TWICE as better. Haha
I live in eastern ky and most ppl around here are trump supporters and now they are finally regretting it. I just hope they all realize they've been duped and conned by trump.
Rod: In that election, there were 628,939 people that voted against McConnell. Are you saying those people "deserve" to be abandoned? Is that the proper way to treat what is essentially a minority group?
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - LBJ, 1963
"Whatever comes across his head comes out of his mouth, and that's a good quality to have." You're so wrong lady, Trump would have no problem with your husband dying, even while he stood over his and watched, if it meant he'd "win" because he lied about many things, but not taking health care from your husband.
so y'all want jobs that caused the health issues back? instead of job training programs that will help with employment issues and not worry about that new job killing you....? oh ok
They want health care but Vote for Someone who wants to repeal it solely on the hope hope of bringing back jobs that created some of their biggest health problems. Not to mention Trump has dismantled entirely any The EPA protections that would prevent industries from creating further health risk to humans or harming the environment. Maybe the people who profited from these people and placed them at risk and endangered their lives should should shoulder the responsibility of making the health care more affordable. 1 step forward 3 steps back. How is this making America great?
People in Kentucky will believe what Fox News tells them more than what reality tells them. I live in Kentucky and boy oh boy are the republicans an interesting people
Works both ways. You have some interesting democrats in ky as well. Also have ppl who hate white ppl. So let's not add to the racial divide by being one sided here.
You are wrong. Dead wrong. The media turned his campaign into that. Twisted his words. Ppl saw thru that to his real message. If everyone thought he was a racist--- we wouldn'thave voted for him.
"ALL" Obama did for them was give them the healthcare that keeps her husband alive?? I'm dumbfounded by the reasoning for voting for trump..Just dumfounded.
Trump Voters: "Please bring back the Jobs that are killing us! We don't want renewable or clean energy! We want the black lung!" These people rather die than learn a new work skill and/or change professions.
Kyle Rowland Amen!!!!. They don’t see how dumb they sound. But what do you expect from people with a lack of education and extreme lack of critical thinking skills. Oooh I don’t like Obama because he is taking away the job that is killing my husband and the other people in the area, now we are gonna have to learn how to read and write and learn a new trade🙄🙄.
And bring back Model T manufacturing, horse and buggy manufacturing, typewriter manufacturing, cassette tape manufacturing, soda bottle manufacturing, asbestos manufacturing - when will people get the point. There are some things YOU CAN'T bring back no matter who is telling you just so they can get your vote.
Neu Street been left in the dust! They refuse to change every other race has been educating their selves and learning a skill set or working a job that gives them experience to move up in the workforce while they have just been sitting around living in the past praying for a dead end you going to die before you retire jobs to come back.
They romanticize a job thats dirty, dangerous, killed several in their families history & friends. I worked in the mines & for MSHA...My grandfather died a horrible death smothering from black lung
To Robin Taylor: I'm sorry that your husband is out of a job, but I can't help but wonder why you hated President Obama. He took away your husband's job, but gave him life-saving insurance. If he continued at his job, he may have died from black lung disease. You guys would have been out of a job and had a dead family member. Instead, your husband is out of a job but he is alive because of the ACA. Doesn't that mean anything to you?
Everybody has the right to their own opinion and I respect it, but did President Obama do more bad or good to this individual personally? I simply don't know and I would like to have that conversation with her because it just seems that she has benefited overall. The alternative would result in a dead family member. Do you have an idea of what the underlying problem may be?
I believe the premise behind Obama's fault in mining industry setbacks is added regulations, such as the one prohibiting dumping waste in rivers. Regardless, the mining industry is being usurped by renewable energy's growth and it's time to invest, subsidize, and/or offer tax credits among other incentives to renewable energy companies.
And there is technology that is making human hands obsolete, too. I guess these people would rather have no insurance, disease and pollutants in their tap water.
Watching this in 2024. And he still wants to repeal aca. With nothing to replace it. And he didn't help the coal mining. He hurt the people who retired from coal mining. Can't fix stupidity.
I went to the comment section an a lot of people missed the point. the coal industry is making these people sick. and these are the same jobs these people want to leave to their kids I thought you were supposed to want more for yours. once Trump takes away their Healthcare these people are done because all these are pre-existing conditions.
Why are you fighting for jobs that kill you? Fight for retraining...search for companies that can open and hire from the area. Coal is not a solution....and thank Obama for your insurance to support the illnesses that you seem to want above all else. My personal opinion is that you have a screwed up way of thinking...coal, coal, coal...insurance. What the hell is Mitch McConnell doing for your area? The governor should help grow industries (not coal) in the area to create jobs. What kind of people are you electing?
