@@ARQP000 Basically, the original occupants of Cyrodil. They had a civil war over whether to worship the Aedra (basically the eight divines. Tiber Septim/Talos hadn't even been born yet.) or two specific deadra. The deadra side won- they even had a "demigod", basically a half deadra. The deadra in question would be Molag Bal and Miridia. Molag bal, the Deadric prince of Slavery, corruption, and domination and Miridia, the deadric prince of life. As you might expect, their culture was *incredibly* fucked up. They got Genocided by Pelinal Whitestrake and saint Allesia who founded the first empire ages ago. Pelinal might have been an incarnation of Lorkhan/Shor, who is the god that made mankind way back when. His reason for genociding the elves basically boils down to "they killed my boyfriend". Mind you, Huna was a soldier, who died in battle. But apparently, that was reason enough to Pelinal to go on a blood crazed rampage where he killed every man, woman, and child he encountered- including an unfortunate tribe of Khajit who he happened to come across. He'd die confronting the high lords of the Ayelids while insulting their ancestors. But not before he killed their Demi-god Umaril the Unfeathered.
Damn the altmer would know you,your dad, your granddad, your great granddad, your great great granddad, and your great great great granddad. Imagine an altmer as a guardian of your family
@@leediaz5690 i think he meant know as in knowing your ancestor so like in this case an elf made a promise with a human to protect their bloodline he would meet that humans great great great great grandson, not necessarily reproducing just watching over like a pet
@@sheogorath6834 but he's still alive, so it counts. And you really think that the others didn't have some way to extend their lifespan? Just because he lived that long because of a god, doesn't mean he should be excluded. The others have only lived as long as they have by using magic to unnaturally extend their lifespan. There's no way to naturally live 4,000 years. Not in Skyrim, and not in real life either. Not unless you're a tree.
@OccultEclipse it's technically Xenophia. Even a High Elf v Wood Elf thing would be Xenophia. But that at least would be closer to racism then humans being against Elves. Overusing the word racism, trivializes those who face it.
Snow elves still got those Alyeid genes after adapting to the cold, I guess. Either that or Auri-El, also known as Akatosh, gifted them immortality for their unwithering faith to him.
The hero-god Phynaster discovered a way of walking that prolonged his life. He then went on to teach the altmer that by shortening ones stride they could live a few hundred years longer.
The Altmer of the Psijic order are very long lived, the Ritemaster Iachesis is somewhere in the thousands and Vanus Galerion the Altmer who founded the mage’s guild was also a millennium old or more
There are also the Falmer, who are shown in both Blackreach and in the Dawnguard DLC of Skyrim that they can live for thousands of years, even while being twisted by the Dwemer's trickery, and the Orsimer, who are known to have the shortest elven lifespan of ~70 ish years
About the Falmer? Snow elves definitely had very extended lifespans, but the twisted Falmer? I don't think I have seen any mention of their lifespan at all, then again, I might have overlooked some mention and cannot ask them, as they are not exactly very talkative.
Bethesda should’ve added more races for adoptable kids. An elf should probably choose elven kids so he/she gets to live with them for centuries and does not outlive them.
Divayth Fyr lived over 4,000 years, and may still be alive as of Skyrim for all we know. He's obviously exceptional though seeing as he's one of the strongest mages in history. Gelebor was also 4,000 years or older, and he didn't seem to be a particularly gifted mage. Maybe the falmer were naturally long lived, or he had some special benefits due to his position.
You forgot to mention Divayth Fyr, who basically lived through the time right after or even during the battle of red mountain, and even managed to befriend the only living dwemer to be seen in the series
@@infinitybreak4459 Yeah, I guess that makes sense but do you think, that the reason Mers live longer than humans is because they are the most prolific magic users? Like, just the potency of the magicka residing in their bodies extends their lifespan regardless of how much they use actual spells, combined with how intune they are with the magics of environments they adapted to in nature
@ItsChevnotJeff theres a lot of theories about it, some date back to the creation of Mundas and the War between Lorkhan and the Et'ada where supposedly Lorkhan made humanity to fight them. Elves are the descendents of Auriel and the Et'ada so they by default have more magic bound to them but humanity was made for war and are not as in tune so this may play a part in the difference in lifespans.
@@infinitybreak4459 I never actually knew that humans were specifically bred to fight Mer, no wonder there is so much strife in between the races, Ngl learning lore about Elder Scrolls is very fascinating
@ItsChevnotJeff its a theory mostly supported by extended noncannon texts, but it's interesting! Look up "Shor son of Shor". it's confusing but a good read. Also "children of the sky" supports this patrially by saying that Kyne made mankind by breathing down from the throat of the world, and we know Kyne loved Lorkhan considering Shor (nordic Lorkhan) was Kyne's (nordic kynareth) husband.
Dwemer: vibes as the unaging brass skin of Numidium Falmer: could live long enough as long as the Dwemer does not see them Maormer: i cri Left-handed elves: lived too soon for the next kalpa, lived too late to survive the next kalpa
@zogkuma I believe I still need to do a video on them but I was going to pair them with the Argonians as they're both considered beast races despite the Khajiit's shared history and origins with the wood elves
I just read a lorebook in ESO wherein a Red Guard reigned as a king for about ~150 years, and that was just a commoner and we have no idea how long he was alive before then. So basically everyone in TES can live for hundreds of years.
What about the Bretons? Obviously they wouldn't live as long as other elves because they're human/elf hybrids but they would most likely live longer than humans.
It actually might be the opposite weirdly enough. The only actual info we get on Breton age is a line where someone says another person "aged like a Breton" implying they actually age faster than other human races.
@@wishbone346maybe bretons just age bad? Like a 60yr old one is all gnarled and wrinkled and an 80 year old one got long twisted fingers and long drooping noses and ears almost skeletal
@@wishbone346 Or they mean that a person has aged badly. Commonly, when humans get old, we get shorter and wrinkled. I'm guessing Bretons, being mostly human, age as poorly as most of us do, or maybe they just show more of their aging faster than most full blooded humans. Maybe the saying "Aged like a Breton" means you're showing your age or you've gotten shorter. You can imagine most Bretons would be looked at as much younger than their ages for most of their life because of their smaller frames and softer features. Then as they get older they get the features of age (wrinkles) while still looking physically like a young adult. Maybe the saying is used more because their aging doesn't seem natural compared to other humans. I haven't seen anything in the lore to support it but I would guess they live slightly longer than most humans, maybe an extra 20-50 years at most(not accounting for an unexpected end or sickness/disease taking them first).
@@wishbone346 Imo it's the contrary. When you say that someone "age like a breton" it mean that they seems younger than their age. Fun fact: Delphine is 50 year old in Skyrim (she's a breton)
@@sheogorath6834 Tbf Saadia would also have to be in her mid 40s to early 50s at least as well despite not looking it at all and she's a Redguard. So I think not looking your age is just something that happens in Tamriel.
@@wolffrdu6463 They reach physical maturity at around the same age as men however mer under ~100 would be considered mentally immature by members of their own race :)
Wasn't the whole reason the Snow Elves finally decided to attack the first men of Tamriel in Skyrim, because they began to realize that Men matured and reproduced faster and in greater numbers than Elves or at least Snow Elves? Therefore they would eventually outnumber the Elves and pose a threat.
Snow Elves are a weird case. The very little we know about their age is how they can seemingly live for thousands of years as seen in Knight-Paladin Gelebor. It's said the Atmorans had a reproduced much faster but it's highly plausible that falmer matured slower than even other elven races due to their seemingly endless lifespan
Now I’m imaging an Altmer who’s like 500 years old and is so afraid of death he becomes a Vampire, and eventually uses magic to extend his lifespan even further.
People can't live a second without crying because of the elves and without mentioning garbage like Pelinal and so on. Yes, the Nords are so cool that the Thalmor forces them and the Imperials to do what they want.
I was gonna say the dunmer and altmer have well into the thousands range. Not to mention the snow elf....Holy crap. The snow elf in the sanctuary where you find 2 of them....and that was well beyond a single millennium...I know this shite too well to not know what I'm saying
Most Dark Elves live to a few hundred years without magical intervention. And then there's Divayth Fyr whose magic has sustained him for THOUSANDS of years.
Isn't there a different answer to this question depending on how active they are in the Aldmeri Dominion? "Can't leave well enough alone" is a leading cause of death, after all.
Don't forget about the snow elf in the forgotten vale. He's like 4,000 years old. And he's still very much alive after the end of the game, unlike his vampire brother.
@@treyphillips7668 probably because you only encounter him in a single quest as part of the dawnguard DLC. I have the benefit of being physically unable to forget, so I of course remembered him. But the majority don't have total recall, so they forget things...how exactly does one actually get used to that? My version of forgetting is just not being able to immediately recall a piece of information. My older memories end up buried under my newer ones, so I need a trigger to jar my brain and shake the older memory loose in order to recall it. But I can still FEEL the memory inside my mind. I'm never completely locked out of my memories. It may sound weird to you, but forgetting things sounds weird to me. Reality is what we make of it after all.
@Iskaid theoretically, yes, but it wouldn't make sense lore wise In Oblivion, the Neravarine is said to be away on an expedition to Akivir but you could make the headcannon that this is a coverup and you're playing them in Cyrodiil but the issue is the Neravarine is impervious to disease so you'd have to give them 100 percent diseas resistance. The other snag is the hero of Kvatch, who becomes Sheogorath at the end of the shivering isles (who you interact with and talks about the main quest and thieves guild questline) so itd make no sense unless you came up with a valid way to rationalize this in your playthroughs EDIT: Also, considering the Neravarine is impervious to aging via the modified Corpus disease they get, and them being able to be any race or gender, could potentially be any race really by the time of Skyrim (which is only 200ish years after morrowind if im not mistaken)
@Iskaid you don't necessarily "become" the Sheogorath you see immediately, you mantle him and slowly morph into him with time, you can still finish Oblivion after shivering isles but after the ecents of the game are over its implied your character stays in the shivering isles and slowly turns into the Sheogorath we all know
@@infinitybreak4459 Interesting, so the mad god you meet in Skyrim is actually the Hero of Kwatch in a timeline where he helped Sheogorath stop the Grey March. But because there was a dragon break, there were also timelines where that didn't happen and the Hero of Kwatch lived on as himself or herself.
@Iskaid i never considered how there were other dragonbreaks beyond the one in daggerfall, obviously there were ones before such as the middle dawn but i never thought of potential ones that explained the vagueness of each games ending and the actions each protagonist takes
The Orsimer do have elven blood but are mostly considered as uncouth Betmers, they usually live about the same span as Humans; the Nords think it maybe because they were cursed by Orkey. The Maormer are just like their Altmer cousins usually around 300ish, but since they live a more perilous life at sea it usually shortens their lives just like their Bosmer cousins. The Ayleids are also called Highland High Elves, and just like the Summerset Altmers they live up to around 300-500yrs. The Falmer (Snow Elves) also has a typical lifespan of 300. As it seems the more "civilised" or isolationist an elven culture is the longer they live.
dont forget the orcs who are technically a elven race similar to the dark elves that were cursed or the falmer who are technically elves even if degraded into a feral form
I mean Nelacar is in Morrowind: Bloodmoon and in Skyrim so that is a good 208 year difference between those events. He'd probably be in his one to two hundreds during bloodmoon and he still looks like a strapping young man. Sinderion probably would have been in his 500 hundreds if he wasn't merked by dwemer automatons
Meanwhile, the Orsimer live around 40-60 years on average, prefering to die via death by adventurer or by having one of their children kill them to become the next chief of their stronghold. They can live as long as 150 years, however, as evidenced by the keeper of the College of Winterhold's library.
What about orcs? when Siptimus Signus (thats the name if i did not forget) asks you to collect the blood of all elves, you collect the blood of a high elf, a wood elf, a dark elf, an orc, and a falmer. So how long do orcs and falmers live if they are also elves?
Its estimated they lived the same, if not a little longer like the altmer. The dunmer didnt change all that much as the onlybthing that sets them apart is azuras curse that changed their skin amd eye color
Aldmer is a language. That of the Ayleids who are thought to be extinct. That aside, they probably all lived to be around 500 years old. The Dwemer were the old exception as they could extend their lives with their technology.
