How Luxury Beliefs Hurt the Poor - Rob Henderson | Maiden Mother Matriarch 68 

I see Rob Henderson, I click and listen ❤ man's brilliant 👏🏽

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I love this Man. I totally relate. He really gets it. God bless 🙌 🙏 ❤️

46:30 love his point about there being so many other ways to derive meaning in life than just how much money or how many degrees you have. I have money and a degree and choose to be a smh mum to my children and want more because i derive a lot of meaning from family and love for my children. True meaning does not come from things but from experiences and purpose. The world focuses too much on the wrong things and wonders why people are depressed and lonely. It hurts my heart!

Two of my favorite people! Nice.

Finally!! Rob Henderson on MMM!! I’ve been waiting for this to happen!

If abortion wasn’t legal men couldn’t as easily get away with being as the guest said “ charming sociopaths “ who knock girls up and take no responsibility for the tremendous psychological distress having an abortion has on a young woman. Men would have to commit / propose marriage a lot more often in order to get women to enter sexual relationships with them. Imagine that.

Rob, love your book, love your thinking. When you are talking to us on camera, you rarely look at the camera, i.e. always looking to the side as if you are reading or are distracted. Look the camera and us directly in the eyes when you speak.

Thankyou for discussing that abortion is, in many cases, a horrible thing for women to go through. As for a world before the pill, there was reliable contraception for nearly a century before the pill. I don't think it would be too difficult for people to come up with alternatives.

Nick Eberstadt has a pretty good argument against UBI, but Andrew Yang's argument in favor is better. I wouldn't want it to be permanent for generations, or to increase beyond the initially proposed amount. I'm thus a Yang fan, with caveats. I'm a Classical Liberal with some Libertarian leanings, but we have to acknowledge that ppl are gonna need a certain amount of assistance nowadays, it's a question of how minimal, for how short a timespan, and whether it's widespread or concentrated in 'victim groups'. (I would probably also want to eliminate some other specific programs, partly to be replaced by Yang's UBI). This is right up your alley Louise: Nick's argument sounds like Rob's; men don't have enough self-control to not sit around and do opiates (if given some money). I don't dismiss that by any means. But Andrew's argument is that, UBI will alleviate economic strain on vulnerable families, single mothers, and stimulate economy in the process because ppl will have spending money. (Of course, under optimal circumstances, this would be facilitated instead by a healthy market, and culture). And, if it weren't given to everyone, it would create privileged classes, and also stimulate economy less. With a healthy culture, and market solutions, this would not be necessary or advisable, my support is thus limited. But another side issue, is that a significant percentage of Yang's UBI would come from a tax on tech companies, for valuable data, harvested from the American ppl for a profit. Andrew's narrow case is undeniable imo, that Americans are owed a dividend, which would already cover AT LEAST 30% of his proposed UBI.

Lovve pro-life as a luxury belief, why could I never phrase it so simply

20:57 ONLY exception I can think of to this in TRUE elite classes. OLD OR ANCIENT MONEY. Are those folks, families, who are TRUE PRACTICING Christians whose kids might spend their entire Summers doing Mission Work. Or volunteering in Inner Cities or causes. NOT just during the Holidays or for sme Politician's Photo Op or web site or something. Occasionally NON religious KIDS will, but often, it seems it is in Rebellion to the Trust Fund Class following their OWN conversions.

Liberalism encourages people to voice approval for things they don't actually want to do themselves. Here's something I think is illuminating: If you look at public approval of interracial marriage in the US, it went from overwhelming disapproval in 1950 to overwhelming approval in 2020 (from 5% approval to 95%). However when you look at the actual rates of interracial marriage, the change isn't anywhere near as major (3% to about 15%). Of course, voicing approval, acceptance, or support for something other people will do can be a positive thing. But it's worth noting that it involves no personal risk or cost, and that in some cases it could be a double-edged-sword (the approval of recreational drug use, for example).

A family member intentionally bombed out of a upper middle class life and lives on a few thousand a month in a small, totally uneducated neighbourhood despite having a PhD from a well known university. While they are quite happy, their kids ended up rather bonkers. So there are a lot of anomalies swirling around that are quite interesting.

If we were to ban abortion and the pill over night, I doubt we would be going just back to the 50s. For once, there are other factors that have influence on society that are still different (like availabilty of social media, pornography, physical work for men...) and on the other hand we still KNOW that this thing is out there. It's very much a pandoras box. We can't get it back in there. And if I extrapolate prohibition of alcohol, the need wouldn't go away.

I believe that intelligence or IQ is less determined by genetics and more influenced by epigenetic factors.

39:55 Perfect question, this is pretty much the moment LP begins to transform into my online female avatar. Louise and I will both be in the first Dutton Fleischman & Miller University graduate class, with an advanced degree in "being problematic".

Rob is wonderful. Abortions are covered by insurance/ Medicaid. I’m not sure if that is a luxury belief.

All must watch Shanna Swan on Chris Williamson show today, she was previously on JRE.

It's sooo much more genetics than Rob says, it's a slight disservice to ppl to say that it doesn't lean WAY more towards nature than nurture. He has a partial, covert luxury belief, which is good if your blood has an irony deficiency. Some things have a higher percentage heritability than others, and a very garbage environment can mess up anyone's life, but let's not pretend the science doesn't show what it shows, just because it fits our own niche worldview. Rob Henderson needs to read more Rob Henderson *drops...mic?*

Determinism is a luxury belief if I ever heard one.

I agree with his first few comments so far-I think he meant to say the hippie saying was “Don’t trust anyone OVER 30” not under 😂 But the saying probably SHOULD be don’t trust anyone UNDER 30 😂😂😂

I'd like to hear their take on firearms ownership. My friends and I all have a lot of firearms. I hunt with the kind of Americans that would scare the average liberal. I suspect they would poo-poo firearms ownership as a bad thing. There's ghetto firearms ownership, and then there's the Upscale kind of firearms ownership. Private shooting clubs, specialized equipment, very expensive firearms, travel budgets, professional dog training costs. This is an elite game.

So ironic when you consider that feminism is a luxury belief!

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Regarding whether rape was more common historically, obviously it's very difficult to know and I have no evidence. This is my opinion. If rape is to do with sexual frustration / "misunderstanding" about how much the woman wants to (rather than predatory power, fetish etc), then there would be less rape historically because 1) married people have more sex than single people 2) more people, and therefore more men, were married in the past 3) therefore less men were sexually frustrated 4) the current dating situation is more akin to polygynous societies, rather than the monogamous situations of the past. Elite men that the women all want aren't removed from the game by marriage and so the men lower down the status ladder have no opportunities. Polygynous societies lead to more young men without partners feeling angry and frustrated. 5) less ambiguity regarding date rape situations as the default answer for women was no, without marriage. However I'm not sure whether rape is driven by sexual frustration! And I don't want to over glamorise the past, as there were loveless sexless marriages, as there are today. Human nature remains the same through the ages, we just change access and technology. I'm more hopeful for social change than you Louise I think! Cultural shifts are already occurring and once we ban smartphones and social media for teens, and put age verification checks on porn, that will make a big difference.

The more people get of what they want (money, clout, attention), the more they become compromised. Agree with Rob Henderson.

It’s not just step fathers that can present a threat to children. My dad remarried very quickly after my mum died and unfortunately chose a women who I believe has NPD. She abused us all and I was the youngest. I stayed in the house the longest until they kicked me out. She later had an affair and my dad divorced her (and came running back to his abandoned children, but that’s another story and therapy session). Despite what happened to me, I succeeded. I am smart and was the academic one in my family. The only one to go to uni. I’ve worked very hard to get to where I am, with a good job I enjoy and a good income. I still have anxiety that stems back to that time though. I was a 15 year old girl and would have butterflies walking home because she would get home before my dad. She would be mean and if I told my dad, she would lie. I’m now 40 and just bought a house. For the first time in my life, I feel stable and my anxiety levels that were always there while renting have subsided. But I’m hyper sensitive to any threat to my financial stability at work but also in relationships.

Good to hear views being discussed on subjects that people often fear to tread. Can I also point interested readers/listeners to the book 'Hold on to your kids' by Gabor Mate and Gordon Neufield. This explores the centrality of parent-child attachment in enabling children to thrive. "The secret of parenting is not in what a parent does but rather who the parent is to a child."

Regarding the sex worker thing, gotta love how Rob is like, "Don't rely on actual studies about the material consequences of different policies, go and talk to people." You do realize that sex work being made legal is absolutely what those people want, and it would also prevent a lot of harm? Sex work being illegal is the luxury belief. Same with abortion, yada yada. It feels like these "luxury beliefs" are just anything with a lot of rigorous academic backing that Henderson personally doesn't gel with. Except he himself promoting positions held by elites on the other side, with absolutely no extra nuance, just reciting basic talking points. There's no theory here, not consistency, it's just a label he's slapped on to things based on whatever narrative he happens to believe.

31:31 When there are more neurotic and fewer conscientious ppl being born for generations, then more intelligent and thus environmentally sensitive ppl grow up and live in an increasingly neurotic culture, that's when the situation you describe results. You're kinda wrong in your analysis, you need to glue together considerations of behavioral genetics and the accompanying culture, do not separate those Oreo cookies. The Buddha says, all things are one. The Buddha was neurotic, and when introduced to other numbers, suffered severe panic attacks. Finally he was introduced to the internet, and achieved Dark Enlightenment.

[Fishing for MMM "likes," is my latest trwl trope] Rob and Louise are so great! Everything's great! I just inhaled nitrus! 🤩 Jesus is real, death is a lie! 😀

recommend the book 'geek love' when someone tries to give people the opportunities in education etc. who wouldn't get it otherwise.

I don't know why he thinks its so weird that his grandparents proposed marriage at 18 and 21. In the 1980s I got married at 17, my husband was nearly 21. You don't need to take part in the sexual revolution, you can opt out.

Great conversation!

Ooooh teeny tiny generalisation there about single parents and 'instability and neglect'

(For the end part of this episode) apparently tribalization is the answer. C'mon into the MMM echo chamber, the water's fine.

Regarding divorce: "What we want to say is" do not engage in ad hoc sexual relationships, choose your partner carefully

Re- young women's thoughts on male morality: Back in the day, a common argument in favor of p()rn was that it reduces SA (based on some research paper(s)). Pro p()rn men, especially, used this correlation to shut down criticism. So a new question posed to young women today about what would happen if you were to take away birth control/abortion reaches that same logic, which is essentially without some nebulous level of sexual access, men will behave immorally. Basically, now the trend is that women are becoming less carefree about sexuality. I'm hearing more and more people say that young women must gatekeep sex; and this is part of that program.

I don't know if I agree that social norms / values take so long to change. Within an extremely short span of time, interracial relationships and most notably same-sex relationships have not only been normalized, but being opposed to them anathema in society. This happened in the course of only 10-15 years in the US. It required not a change in technology, but a concerted change in elite opinion and massive propagandization.

My beliefs are super luxurious and comfy.

Interesting that Louise talks about 'members of the public' like it's some kind of alien species. Surely we are all members of the public at some point during the day. I think she means 'working class'or 'ordinary' people of which she has no experience of.

Would love to hear you talk to Johnathan haidt about protecting the kids as he believes we are over protecting them too much atm

48:40 Remember that numerous blue collar jobs will soon be re-shored, there's already enormous demand for blue collar work, and also much of the immigration will be necessary for economy, due to population decline (until next bigger gen grows up in US in a couple decades). Sure, UK's different, you're importing a jihad, your demographics appear to be shorter-term manageable but longer-term, terminal, and you will either need to cut a Japan-style deal with the US, or become a US state in like 10 yrs, and that's not even a joke. It'll be cool, I would like to visit and stay at Hogwarts, without a green card. And you guys would get, you know lots of stuff, functional economy etc. (We're basically the same culture anyway, at bottom. We both speak the same neologistic English slang, and I'm pretty sure we both like crumpets).

I’ve watched this guy do interviews on a few different podcasts. Your interview really drew out how difficult empathizing with women seems to be for him. Especially near the end, the way he answered with almost exaggerated befuddlement was very telling