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@sabiancoomber-nickerson5830
Wow. I always liked the idea of leaving the world a better place than when you found it, but I never though about how that improves the lives of potentially quadrillions of people.
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird Год назад
On the flipside, it can have the exact opposite effect on other-minded people - "if I'm such a tiny speck in the global population ever, then my actions don't matter, and even if they do, others will easily fix them in the future anyway".
@archae10
@archae10 Год назад
Butterfly effect, my friend.
@DeathSugar
@DeathSugar Год назад
@@archae10 one can say the birth is the only butterfly in here in comparison.
@victorlevoso8984
@victorlevoso8984 Год назад
@@Lishtenbird Well, those people should realize that that's not the case if we fuck up the future permanently.
@doodleplayer4014
@doodleplayer4014 Год назад
I do like the idea that once the Earth goes to crud, that we could leave before we die, but the more likely possibility is that billionares will get to mars or something and charge people to go there.
@peppermint_8
@peppermint_8 Год назад
I'm glad Earth has almost reached 8 billion subscribers! this is such a huge milestone
@Dark_Peace
@Dark_Peace Год назад
Idk, the content isn't that great. I'm gonna unsubscribe.
@Tubeytime
@Tubeytime Год назад
@@Dark_Peace Once you do, you can't re-subscribe ever again. Please consider your decision carefully.
@takenname8053
@takenname8053 Год назад
@@Tubeytime Sure you can, just use a different account
@chocomilkfps1264
@chocomilkfps1264 Год назад
@@takenname8053 we will watch your career with great interest
@henrik.norberg
@henrik.norberg Год назад
Too bad most subscribers are trying to DDOS the Earth 😕
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus Год назад
One point I think is important to make, when you mention the predicted time span over which a mammalian species might exist, that doesn't necessarily mean _people_ have stopped existing, just that _homo sapiens_ becomes a common ancestor for those species-and it could indeed be plural "species", especially without FTL travel-whose people will exist 1,000,000 years from now.
@dalstein3708
@dalstein3708 Год назад
However, the evolution into a new species is less likely if there are no isolated populations, as is the case for Homo Sapiens. So we would have to have a large carastrophe. Or undertake interplanetary space travel.
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus Год назад
@@dalstein3708 Yeah, that's primarily what I meant if we never develop faster-than-light travel. Even if we only ever inhabit the Sol system, the further out humans go, the more likely speciation will take place.
@dalstein3708
@dalstein3708 Год назад
@@LordMarcus The funny thing is, if you take the possibility of new species into consideration, then entire question (= how many humans will ever exist) becomes irrelevant.
@inyobill
@inyobill Год назад
I knew someone would make this point.
@inyobill
@inyobill Год назад
@@dalstein3708 even without isolation, genetic drift can cause speciation, and where adaptive pressures have been minimized, they are not zero, and over the longer times discused, the population will evolve.
@LunarcomplexMain
@LunarcomplexMain Год назад
I was really hoping to notice the Sun model get bigger as the 1,000s of years went by, but then thought, oh wait that wouldn't nearly be enough time, then you went ahead and covered it anyway lol, pretty awesome.
@SBerTtube
@SBerTtube Год назад
Well, it's not a scaled model anyways...
@Sabeximus
@Sabeximus Год назад
The final thoughts at the end reminded of a great insight someone thought: When in science fiction people travel to the past, they are always so worried that even the the most tiniest change there could drastically change the present, but why aren't we worried about the our most tiniest choices in the present having the same effect in the future?
@ohiorizzler1434
@ohiorizzler1434 Год назад
Because we are scared of seeing a discontinuity. It simply isn't that bad if we follow along to our future
@andrewharing2637
@andrewharing2637 Год назад
Because there is no set future for us to go back to. The reason why it might be bad to change the world by doing a tuny thing isn't that that world is definitely worse; it's that you wanted to go back to your family andfriends, and they all won't exist in a different world.
@ohiorizzler1434
@ohiorizzler1434 Год назад
@@andrewharing2637 that is what I meant by creating a discontinuity.
@TaliyahP
@TaliyahP Год назад
Well it's mostly because for a backwards time traveller the concern is paradoxical. If they change the past then the world that results, the world that the traveller exists in, no longer exists and therefore the traveller couldn't exist. There's a lot of bad things we could go back and change for the better if we had the technology, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
@Sabeximus
@Sabeximus Год назад
@@TaliyahP Sure, but that's beside the point. Think it like this, from the perspective of the people of the past: if the future us someday in the future would invent time travel and then come to this day, they would be very concerned about changing their past (our present), because it would change their present (our future). But why aren't we now just as concerned about our future? Or in other words, why weren't they concerned about the very same thing when they actually lived in that time? Because they had that power to change the future all along. It's just that when we haven't actually seen the future, we don't take it so personally. If we could see and live the future, then we would feel like we lost something, if the future changed. Can't miss something you never had it, right?
@bobbob1278
@bobbob1278 Год назад
YESSS FINALLY. HE'S BACK TO SAVE ME FROM BOREDOM
@maddoxmonteza
@maddoxmonteza Год назад
yes
@Nulley0
@Nulley0 Год назад
Ross Ross
@saininsa98
@saininsa98 Год назад
Yes
@nobodyknows662
@nobodyknows662 Год назад
Yes
@theanalyzer0
@theanalyzer0 Год назад
bruh this ash shii idk why this is even on my recommended
@everrettbreezewood3665
@everrettbreezewood3665 Год назад
Being so early in the history of humanity gives us a crazy amount of influence. As time goes on and the populations increase, your likelihood of becoming a legend decreases dramatically. Just think how Aristotle, Hannibal, David, and Ramses are viewed as great heroes, even though compared with today there are probably many with equal or greater skills/accomplishments. Compare this with the Bonapartes, Churchills, Washingtons, and Maos that pop up today. The heroes keep getting rarer and rarer, but also greater and greater as the competition for titles increases. Just how powerful with the "great men" of the future be? Edit: 76 comments and counting; wow. Let this be a testament to how easily RU-vid commenters can artificially insert motive into a mild academic preponderance. Please note that I'm calling these people "great," not "good." By "great" I mean significant/famous; the kind of person you can read a book about and 90% of literate people are familiar with. Very few people reading the comments actually had to Google who Mao was. I'm also not insinuating anything about how people become "great." Whether this is by circumstances or by their own ability doesn't matter. Each of these people have had influences across centuries and will continue to influence as long as humanity remains in roughly its current state. There are more famous people than ever, but most are forgotten within a decade. Will Donald Trump, Taylor Swift, and Pope Francis stand time? All I'm saying is that if they do, they will be statistically less impactful than someone living at the time of Newton, Ghengis Khan, or Columbus.
@mewblue3997
@mewblue3997 Год назад
I'm pretty sure the Kool Aid man has the power of an eldritch being already
@dylanauntiecrafters3278
@dylanauntiecrafters3278 Год назад
There are already too many people on earth, in the future there will be a lot less celebrities
@alessiobenvenuto5159
@alessiobenvenuto5159 Год назад
Can't wait for Emperor OmegaChad the 160th, Destroyer of Galaxies
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 Год назад
Heroes aren't rarer, it's simply that the western world has decided to topple statues instead of erecting them and to burn books instead of writing them. We censor speech instead of writing songs glorifying greatness . The wealthiest criminals seek anonymity instead of flaunting their power and influence. It's true that due to fears of atomic hellfire the borders aren't being redrawn in same way as during days of old, but Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan were exceptional even for their time. Heroes however, still exist in man if you know where to look. I personally believe that eventually people will grow bored of fabricated entertainment and seek something genuine. The moment you do, there's plenty of people doing actual work who deserve statues even if they are unsung and do not receive any facetious honors.
@kreoniz
@kreoniz Год назад
I tend to think that greatness depends not so much on the feat itself, but on how much effort you put into it. For example, learning calculus is easier than discovering it from zero, building computer in the past is harder than with current knowledge, etc.
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus Год назад
I remember when population approached 5b. Projections were wildly out-of-touch, they were saying something like 10b by 2000 and 15b by 2015. EDIT: 5b instead of 6b.
@General12th
@General12th Год назад
_Some_ projections were like that, mostly by fear-mongering organizations with an agenda to scare you. Based on UN POPULATION DIVISION ISSUES ‘WORLD POPULATION PROSPECTS: THE 2000 REVISION’, the UN predicted the population would grow to maybe 11.9 billion by the end of the century. It turns out humanity arrested its population growth substantially in the last twenty years. Now we're destined for 10.4 billion at most.
@G00DLORD
@G00DLORD Год назад
But 6 billion happened in 1999
@TheLetterB123
@TheLetterB123 Год назад
@@G00DLORD exactly, they were saying that they were alive then, and the predictions then were inaccurate
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus Год назад
@@G00DLORD You're right, I should have said 5 billion, when I was still in school in the mid 80s.
@JKenny44
@JKenny44 Год назад
It's pretty insane how quickly the population has started to level off. It makes one question if it was entirely natural. We know it wasn't natural in China for example, it seems logical that Western governments would've had a similar agenda.
@henaadlakha
@henaadlakha Год назад
Thank you. It is thrilling to even try to find precise questions that are pertinent to the context even if we know that our answers might be not close to the truth because they are based on too many unproved assumptions--this beautiful video did it very well.
@unreachablesecretary
@unreachablesecretary Год назад
This, it doesn't matter if it'll inevitably be innaccurate, seeing the process itself and some estimates is really valuable too
@triehe
@triehe Год назад
Damn my initial guess of “around 25 probably?” was WAY off
@talentlesscommenter1329
@talentlesscommenter1329 Год назад
Damn bro, I thought it was like 6 people.
@pyramidteam9961
@pyramidteam9961 Год назад
yeah its probably closer to like 112
@tree427
@tree427 Год назад
42.
@irchonite1953
@irchonite1953 Год назад
@@Sp1derShorts Damn, 46? I only know like, 15 people, so I figured that over DOUBLING that amount would be ludicrous. Granted, I knew my knowledge was limited, so I assumed it would be 22 give or take 8 billion.
@beinzheans3918
@beinzheans3918 Год назад
my answer of "at least 1" is correct!!!!!
@MrScorpianwarrior
@MrScorpianwarrior Год назад
As someone who, less than an hour before you uploaded this, watched "The Last Human" by Kurzgesagt, I am impressed by how similar your math it. He actually used the exact same book to base his video on, which makes me wonder if this is in the book...
@ckv954
@ckv954 Год назад
The video description means that what you say is probably true
@mostm8589
@mostm8589 Год назад
Don't forget Rational Animations's latest video, also based on the same book. All 3 videos (Kurz, Primer, & RatAnime) came out very close to each other and talking about the same rough idea.
@imanukeyourface3210
@imanukeyourface3210 Год назад
@@mostm8589 They're all basically sponsored productions where the video IS the advertisement, in this case for the book. I'm sure the actual production scriptwriting etc for the vid was in the hands of the channels but yeah the videos are basically long book ads
@AdSoyad-rp1vm
@AdSoyad-rp1vm Год назад
​@@imanukeyourface3210 lmao, so it was all just an ad? And l wonder if the author is the same one from "what do we owe to each other" which l heard from The Good Place and it got stuck in my mind. Was the good place also a reeeeally long book ad?
@martibuxeda7558
@martibuxeda7558 Год назад
I hope in the future there's people like you helping us understand such interesting thematics! Thanks so much!
@umerqureshi1606
@umerqureshi1606 Год назад
Amazing video! Always look forward to your videos. Don't stop making these
@laurencehtet2361
@laurencehtet2361 Год назад
I'm not sure if you'll see this but I just found about this channel. Thank you for the longevity and effort you put into the videos. I will be watching everything that have been uploaded so far and will be watching whatever's being uploaded. You're awesome!
@calook1334
@calook1334 Год назад
You always make me feel so smart. Thank you!
@penguinchess
@penguinchess Год назад
Always a great day when Primer uploads. Thanks for another amazing video!
@arturonotari8235
@arturonotari8235 Год назад
This is literally the 3rd channel that make a video of this specific topic today. And I'm suscribed to all of them.
@MootPoot
@MootPoot Год назад
Always a great video man, appreciate the work you put into each video.
@yofedstyhrega4594
@yofedstyhrega4594 Год назад
Very happy to see an upload from you again.
@MasterNox
@MasterNox Год назад
Kurzgesagt, Rational Animations and yourself all made similar videos today! I love the differing viewpoints and ways to look into our future, very insightful. Keep up the good work!
@bpansky
@bpansky Год назад
sean carroll also interviewed the guy who wrote that book on his podcast the other day. wonder what's up
@TheMisterDarknight
@TheMisterDarknight Год назад
yeah lol
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad Год назад
I don't know about Rational Animations, but Kurzgesagt and Primer are both sponsored/partnered with the same people for the videos released today.
@mostm8589
@mostm8589 Год назад
@@WanderTheNomad Rational Animations's video is also based on the same book, they are also an awesome channel in general. So yourself a favor and subscribe to it.
@gibenameplox
@gibenameplox Год назад
To be frank it's really feeling like a cult worship. Like, the ideas are interesting but in the end it so strange to just accept the status quo in favor of the future and accept the technocracy that hurts people in the present and near us while focusing in the ones far and that don't even exist.
@AHappierWorldYT
@AHappierWorldYT Год назад
Very interesting video! Love the way you're using your channel to promote the book's important ideas. We loved the book too :)
@YLLPal
@YLLPal Год назад
I'm so happy to see you delving into longtermism explainers. I still find it hard to grasp just how big the future is.
@Spinosaurus8080
@Spinosaurus8080 Год назад
This is the earliest Primer video I've every been to!
@gilodis23
@gilodis23 Год назад
Absolutely love your videos Primer, thanks for all the content!
@nitzan3782
@nitzan3782 Год назад
4:15 I think this doesn't take into effect the massive strides we've made in postponing, preventing or outright reversing aging on the cellular level. The lifespan will increase dramatically once these become commonplace, or as commonplace as applied revolutionary medical procedures are today.
@polinageller3489
@polinageller3489 Год назад
This is why I think the UN should use their short-term population projections (30-50 years) and limit the practical applications of long-term (70-80 years) projections for their projects. Nobody knows what is going to happen in the medical field in 80 years, so any specific demographic projections that far into the future may turn worthless at some point. We already saw the UN massively miscalculate the demographic transitions of Asia and Africa, underestimating the speed of the first one and overestimating the speed of the later in the 80s. So I would take any projections about the span between 2080-2100 with a grain of salt.
@LeannLeannProduction
@LeannLeannProduction Год назад
As the starman pointed out in the 1985 Sci-Fi movie “Starman”, our species is still so very young, with a lot of potential left. We need to make the most of our potential and “grow up”. If not for our current population’s sake, then for the future’s. This video really shows us how many people depend on us here, now, to do that. Thank you for crunching the numbers! I’m equally fascinated by these ideas you talked about, so I look forward to more videos on this topic!
@Srynan
@Srynan Год назад
You are so amazing and these videos give me so much hope to keep going. Thank you!
@forr35t
@forr35t Год назад
This is one of those channels that I immediately click on a new video for. Absolutely top-tier content, the effort put into these videos is crazy.
@someoneelse2106
@someoneelse2106 Год назад
Saw that book on the Kurzgezaght latest video too. Seems obvious that we have some very smart people trying to help steer our future. I hope they choose the right direction, and if it is correct that we follow along.
@stickworldanimated9545
@stickworldanimated9545 Год назад
Ok
@wesinator123
@wesinator123 Год назад
EXCELLENT podcast series called "The End of the World with Josh Clark" that deals extensively with existential risks and was probably made with the help of some people in the sources used in this video. Extremely interesting, informative, and not at all as depressing as a title like "The End of the World" would lead you to believe. The episode focused on Biotechnology, which came out in 2018 I believe, is particularly worth a listen with how prescient it was about what would happen in the very near future with the COVID pandemic.
@potatonite2340
@potatonite2340 Год назад
Seems interesting
@quinton1630
@quinton1630 Год назад
And since Chuck said “prescient”, it’s time for listener mail!
@sixtenwidlund4258
@sixtenwidlund4258 Год назад
Yes a new primer video!!!!, it has been so long!!
@MerlinSchmid
@MerlinSchmid Год назад
Thanks for the well made video!
@ethannguyen9638
@ethannguyen9638 Год назад
Hi King! 👋
@Q27Forever
@Q27Forever Год назад
Bro it’s been 9 months we need more videos
@Braekpo1nt
@Braekpo1nt Год назад
Thanks for another thought-provoking video! You're really good at explaining your thought process along the way
@conor.brennan
@conor.brennan Год назад
just picked up "what we owe the future" on audible, excited to give it a listen! thanks for the recommendation
@pavlov4289
@pavlov4289 Год назад
"All humans die one day" Queen Elisabeth : 🌚
@icantthinkofaname8139
@icantthinkofaname8139 Год назад
Your animations has improved a ton since your first video…
@MrKohlenstoff
@MrKohlenstoff Год назад
So cool that you made a video on that topic!
@marcusr3666
@marcusr3666 Год назад
as always an amazing video that takes me on the best explanation that could ever have been thought of to explain such a complex topic. Amazing work and can't wait to see what is next!!!!!
@conando025
@conando025 Год назад
If I had a nickel for everytime that Book was advertised to me today I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much but it's weired that it happed twice
@EzioAuditoredaFirenze
@EzioAuditoredaFirenze Год назад
Good reference
@xxGreenRoblox
@xxGreenRoblox 14 дней назад
Bad reference
@catfacecat.
@catfacecat. Год назад
Where has this man gone?
@Paraselene_Tao
@Paraselene_Tao Год назад
This is one of the best channels ever made, and I'm sad I haven't subscribed until tonight.
@diestormlie
@diestormlie Год назад
Wanted to say that I found your videos yesterday (THE ALGORITHM was finally good for something) and I very much enjoy your videos and your blobs!
@SamTheTurt
@SamTheTurt Год назад
It's not often this king uploads, but when he does, it sure is a surprise.
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Год назад
Kurzgezagt recently made a video exploring how many people could be born if we do go intergalactic, and If I remember correctly, it is in the Octillions, which is 10,000,000,000,000 bigger than 100 Quadrillion.
@julianw1010
@julianw1010 Год назад
But it's such a big speculation talking about the amount of possible humans in extraterrestrial life that it's basically worthless
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG Год назад
@@julianw1010 yeah, especially because it's quite likely that we would start to become different species after a while
@archiehenderson9529
@archiehenderson9529 Год назад
@@kuhluhOG Kurzgesagt took this into account, they started modelling people rather than humans (seemingly with the assumption that no other life will be found).
@hallojava2458
@hallojava2458 Год назад
Actually, the Solar System and the galaxy as a whole could (and definitely would) support far more people than 10 billion, making the 127 millions births/year number absolutely useless. Therefore, the actual number is orders of magnitude higher.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG Год назад
@@hallojava2458 well, the video assumes that we will not colonise other planets expeditions? sure, that's definitely going to happen colonising other planets? we don't know yet for sure if that's going to be possible
@Theonekhaled1
@Theonekhaled1 Год назад
Wow! Incredible video! So many new thoughts in my head.
@cristea_mihaela
@cristea_mihaela Год назад
I love the videos you make. Thank you for all the effort!
@ckq
@ckq Год назад
This Will Mccaskell guy is setting the narrative for the YT videos I watch recently
@undefined40
@undefined40 Год назад
7:50 Extra points for remembering Pluto
@mr.mikeygaming3723
@mr.mikeygaming3723 6 месяцев назад
Almost done binge watching all of primers videos. Stumbled across them today and couldn’t get enough of them.😂
@kikimeadows
@kikimeadows Год назад
I love this channel so much
@Sans_the_Comedian_Master
@Sans_the_Comedian_Master Год назад
These videos about population tell us how unpredictable the future really is.
@dungeonsanddragons7334
@dungeonsanddragons7334 Год назад
Dude Kurgestat, Rational Animations, and Primer all coming out with basically the same video at the same time is insane!
@math1183
@math1183 Год назад
Yeah, I noticed that too. Maybe it was planned...? But there is no name dropping for the other channels
@notgad3130
@notgad3130 Год назад
They all have the same ad as well? Maybe a sponsor of some sort
@RobertoDeMundo
@RobertoDeMundo Год назад
Kurzgesagt
@TeaRm34paRt
@TeaRm34paRt Год назад
@@RobertoDeMundo Bless you.
@RazorbackPT
@RazorbackPT Год назад
It's a planned promotional campaign from the Effective Altruist community. It's also the cover of Times magazine this week and the author is doing a lot of interviews in popular podcasts like Sam Harris' Making Sense and Sean Carrol's Mindscape. I'm glad they have the resources to pull this off, their message is vital at this moment in time.
@xXxINeedHelpxXx
@xXxINeedHelpxXx Год назад
YESSSS I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW YOU'RE BACK
@Mizai
@Mizai Год назад
never expected the next video being so quickly
@IyeMRealer
@IyeMRealer Год назад
We miss your videos
@DiamondRoller37
@DiamondRoller37 Год назад
To be fair, it seems pretty darn likely that if humans inhabit more solar systems or even galaxies that we are as good as safe from ever becoming extinct since it would take quite a lot in so many places all to happen at the same time
@melonid1750
@melonid1750 Год назад
Creating a humanity backup on another hard drive.
@maxime3648
@maxime3648 Год назад
If we colonize space, humanity will most likely split itself into different species as the travel times would make it impossible for people to breed outside of their communities... In a sense it would be the end of humanity as we know it
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 Год назад
@@maxime3648 weird af to think about unless somehow we find a way of getting around the infamous speed of light limit
@FootageFactory
@FootageFactory Год назад
@@maxime3648 I was going to say somewhat the same thing. I believe if we figure out how to branch out beyond out solar system, then galaxy, I believe we will find another barrier akin to time and dimensions for us to branch off into. Even though it may be Time for my to take my foil hat off, I’m not too far fetched.
@DiamondRoller37
@DiamondRoller37 Год назад
@@maxime3648 That’s very true, like the Galapagos Island finches
@YoshB99
@YoshB99 Год назад
What a beautiful video, man, I almost cry seeing those animmations
@Limeci
@Limeci Год назад
You have finally updated the channel!
@schonnj
@schonnj Год назад
I seriously can't imagine what technology and human society will look like in a hundred years, let alone when the sun is about to die. Assuming we don't either kill ourselves, are exterminated by an theoretically possible advanced alien race, or are wiped out by a astronomical disaster like a comet or meteor strike, the possibilities are endless.
@StrongHeartGaming
@StrongHeartGaming Год назад
I love how this explanation can be applied almost fully as the justification of the human race in Warhammer 40k xD . Anyway good job with this video ! I love what you're doing ^_^
@justinthejust1732
@justinthejust1732 Год назад
Another great video, man what a good channel
@noodlein10
@noodlein10 Год назад
I've binged this whole channel and just now come to the realization that this is the last video
@combeevee
@combeevee Год назад
9 months and counting... does anyone know what happened?
@senatorpoopypants7182
@senatorpoopypants7182 Год назад
Hey, Ik this is an old video but I've been binging your channel and thought your animations were so cool. I was wondering if you had any tutorials on that? or any resources you used that inspired your style? Amazing vids btw, cheers.
@admink8662
@admink8662 11 месяцев назад
Nice, thanks for the great video
@ProWhitaker
@ProWhitaker Год назад
Thanks for the video
@Bangaudaala
@Bangaudaala Год назад
"But fortunately for us, blobs don"t have fingers!" 3:20
@benoitgagnon8134
@benoitgagnon8134 Год назад
Tough engineering indeed! Great video!:)
@yu_pal
@yu_pal Год назад
Love the video
@user-zn1bz4mj3k
@user-zn1bz4mj3k Год назад
This was posted 8 months ago when I'm watching please come back we love your vids
@gaiusjuliuscaesar-wg1hy
@gaiusjuliuscaesar-wg1hy Год назад
And when the world needed him most, he vanished
@Carrut_
@Carrut_ Год назад
I need more videos.
@GrantDeFor
@GrantDeFor Год назад
Amazing video!
@joshuajaydan
@joshuajaydan Год назад
Great video, bought the book!
@1furious
@1furious Год назад
On the point of population growth, the graph you yourself provided plus many others widely available showcase that countries meeting these thresholds of standard of living and economics etc don't actually gravitate and stabilise at about 2 children per woman, but go below this. Without getting into anything political, the totality of the population growth for countries in North America and Europe is going to be driven by immigration from countries with positive population growth and lower economic power / quality of life. Basically all of these North American and European countries, plus several other highly Westernised countries like South Korea and Japan, are at sub-replacement fertility levels. So once the existing human material from earlier and more fertile generations burns itself out, there would be massive population decline, at least of native populations. But as the quality of life in these more fertile regions of the world (mostly Africa, projected by the UN to have over 4 billion people by 2100 (nearly half of the total world population predicted for the time)) goes up and potentially matches or even excels that of the West (which may well decline in quality of life with fewer people actually existing to sustain the systems that enable it), a global population decline until resources become abundant again or quality of life and its paradoxically anti-natal consequences reduces is likely to occur.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Год назад
3:05: Note that the Malthusian Trap is a simplified version of reality. Now, if we can't figure out some way to live in space, we _are_ limited to a finite carrying capacity*, but that carrying capacity depends on a wide range of factors that Malthus didn't consider. To take a simple example: Even without changing available technology, trade can greatly increase the carrying capacity of a region, since it allows sub-regions to specialize in the crops that grow best there (rather than needing to grow _everything_ you need within a day's walk of home). *Technically I guess we're still limited to a finite carrying capacity if we _do_ figure out how to live in space, it's just a carrying capacity large enough that we'll likely run out of stars and other energy sources before we reach it.
@Ergzay
@Ergzay Год назад
The Malthusian Trap is more than just simplified, it's outright wrong for all useful purposes. It's a fiction that doesn't line up with reality.
@YahyeAli123
@YahyeAli123 Год назад
This was a really interesting video to watch keep it up :)
@cosmicplayz9543
@cosmicplayz9543 Год назад
Please do more videos I love them ❤
@Mr.TexasBall.
@Mr.TexasBall. Год назад
Rest In Peace
@KidarWolf
@KidarWolf Год назад
The fascinating thought for me regarding all of this is: at what point of future human evolution would we be defined as a separate species to our ancestors? As evolution is an incremental process, the point of speciation can be very hard to pin down with any certainty.
@user-vw4xp5nt9f
@user-vw4xp5nt9f Год назад
i'd just guess when the average population of our time couldn't create viable children with the average population of the future
@carso1500
@carso1500 Год назад
Evolution is too slow, at one point we will take direct control of it
@fonzwonz5846
@fonzwonz5846 5 месяцев назад
Very interesting, makes you think about your existence in a new light!
@Chemasaurus
@Chemasaurus Год назад
I love your style. Keep it up
@Vorxzery
@Vorxzery Год назад
1:08 its crazy how we are just so little of the percentage of all the humans that have ever existed on this earth
@cobytang
@cobytang Год назад
"How many people will live in the future??" Zero, if I play my cards right
@antonhedin1178
@antonhedin1178 Год назад
I love this!
@donniebirb
@donniebirb Год назад
Man this video got pushed under the algorithm. I'm a subscriber and I only seen this 4 months ago
@garrylarry890
@garrylarry890 Год назад
82 years is already Australian lifespan, but there are probably loads of countries that are like, 50 or 60, but to get 82 for the entire world… it’d be a big achievement.
@donaldhobson8873
@donaldhobson8873 Год назад
With 1000's of years of medical progress, it is bizzarely low. This seems to be a world where less happens in the next million years than happened in the last thousand. It is a crazy amount of normal.
@Caaro99
@Caaro99 Год назад
@@donaldhobson8873 82 is the average meaning there will be countries with possibly 100 as their average lifespan with countries also bringing the average down. Also, medicine and tech can only do so much to prevent aging which causes eventual organ failure and death. There is a biological limit to humans, we can’t surpass it unless we evolve somehow.
@donaldhobson8873
@donaldhobson8873 Год назад
@@Caaro99 You really think there is no possible medicine that can turn off aging? Why? Turning off aging seems possible, at least if we are going to the level of significant genetic modifications.
@carso1500
@carso1500 Год назад
@@Caaro99 We already have some technologies that can potentialy slow aging down, it seems doable that we will be able to lenghten our lifespans considerably this century let alone in a million years, there could be people alive today that will live to see the sun become a red giant (if we don't starlift it before that for more resources for our artificial matrioska worlds or what not) People 100 years ago through that we would take millions of years to invent flight
@ET-yc4wb
@ET-yc4wb Год назад
@@donaldhobson8873 I beg to differ. More happened in the last decade than in the previous 1000's of years. I'd say your in a bit of a rush. The industrial revolution only happened a few centuries ago, and we created the first computer in less than a century ago. We reached space around 60 years ago. We had mass-produced computers in the palm of our hand less than 2 decades ago. Additionally, of course, anything "seems" possible. Everything is easier said than done. Going past the speed of light seems possible, traveling to another dimension seems possible.... The fact is, "turning off" aging is virtually impossible; chemically, medically, and physically. Even if we somehow do get to that point (maybe in a couple million to billions of years of human advancements), we wouldn't get there just by suddenly stopping aging, no, we would get to a point of no aging by making ourselves immortal, and immune to all diseases, viruses, instant repair of damaged tissue, no possibility for any inconveniences. So you see, what you're basically suggesting is: "You really think there is no possible medicine that can make you a virtual god? Why? Becoming a god seems possible..."
@Mutual_Information
@Mutual_Information Год назад
Given the debate surrounding longterm-ism, this might **literally** be the most important question to answer.
@entity5
@entity5 Год назад
Great content
@ankonstantchannel
@ankonstantchannel Год назад
This channel is awesomeeeee
@tmforshaw9
@tmforshaw9 Год назад
Watching this video right after Kurzgesagt's new doomerist video is a breath of fresh air. So nice to see someone providing positive things we can do instead of just showing how bleak things have gotten or could be
@botronas6039
@botronas6039 Год назад
What positive CAN we do?
@realfangplays
@realfangplays Год назад
Kurzgesagt also has a lot of positive videos. They just provide many different views of a situation. Not that you were saying otherwise but just wanted to put it out there. In fact, their video The Last Human is very similar to this one.
@KingMagenta
@KingMagenta Год назад
I thought there was a collab at first lol
@Hex...
@Hex... Год назад
Kurzgesagt have also released a video that covered this very same topic. But I see what you mean about the breath of fresh air, a lot of their futurism and cosmology stuff can be a bit depressing.
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy Год назад
Kurzgezagt did this exact video less than 2 months ago.
@LammyOW
@LammyOW Год назад
V The “I miss Primer” Button
@armoredman6941
@armoredman6941 Год назад
Despicable.
@elliottjacobson3120
@elliottjacobson3120 Год назад
This is a video with everyone inside it. It makes me feel special
@sshadow259
@sshadow259 Год назад
Thanks for the book recommend.
@dazcarrr
@dazcarrr Год назад
can't wait for the simulation where the blobs try and escape the dying solar system
@gxxknockz
@gxxknockz Год назад
Using 10.4 per year is a bit misleading as, as you said, 10.4 billion is the projected PEAK population (according to the United Nations). If you look at the graph you showed at 4:23, the data actually shows a negative trend after the world population reaches 10.4 billion.
@aevans2564
@aevans2564 Год назад
Yep, there’s also a lack of any any resource use factor. We are smashing through resources at an alarming rate already. And are needing to do so to support a population of 8bn. The planet doesn’t have the energy sources required to sustain even this population with this level of consumption for much more than another decade or two at best.
@Nosirrbro
@Nosirrbro Год назад
@@aevans2564 The planet has the energy sources easily, the problem is we aren’t using the sustainable energy sources that we need to be because choosing the unsustainable path is better for short term profits. There’s nothing humans need to do that can’t be powered by the sun, and the sun is gonna keep going on for a long time. For a more short term compared to the sun but still really long term power source we can also use the radioactive materials on the earth to power ourselves for quite a while
@aevans2564
@aevans2564 Год назад
@@Nosirrbro - if you take the IEA’s estimates for Uranium, there’s enough energy in Uranium to power our human energy use (at current levels) for between 8-12 years. And building the infrastructure required to use it is going to take 20 years minimum, and make no one any money. So nuclear is a dead idea. While there is and can be energy taken from the environment in a low resource use way, like Photovoltaics and wind. Standing up and manufacturing plant and equipment is not a zero resource use proposition. All of that also requires resources. There’s no financing in nature, if you want to build a solar panel, you can’t borrow the future output of that panel to create the panel, you need to find the upfront capital resources and energy needed to build it. Right now we do all of that with fossil fuels, and the mining of and refining of metals required for manufacturing and manufacturing processes themselves all also rely on fossil fuels. And we haven’t limited our resource use in any way, basically as soon as the energy return on energy investment for oil becomes negative or too low to gain a return on, all industries halt. so we’re pretty screwed.
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 Год назад
@@aevans2564 You’re taking a very techno-determinist view of the future. There are two factors that we can change, one is energy supply, which you have detailed. The other is energy demand. Changes in energy use and cultural values can distribute resources more equitably among people. Now, is that the most realistic scenario given our current trajectory? No. The most likely ecological outcome now is climate apartheid leading to eco-fascism in the global north. But hey, I think it’s important to note that the problem isn’t “natural,” it is cultural. We have the capacity to change our future if we have the political and moral will to do so.
@davidak_de
@davidak_de Год назад
I like the perspective from the end.
@anonymustly7818
@anonymustly7818 Год назад
Haven't bought a hardcover in ages but subject intrigued me.
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