How Marine Pilots Fly The $84 Million Osprey | Boot Camp 

Well if your paying 84 million for it your using every day

I was actually a mechanic for this squadron. A lot of things get written up for maintenance. but there is a priority of things to get taken care of. work on the engine would be prioritize over something that is more cosmetic. if a worn seat doesnt prevent a plane from flying then there is no point in putting in the effort to replace it when manpower can be allocated to something more important like something the powerplant, avionics, or hydraulics.

@@richarddixon146 what’s the average age for a pilot?

@@FlyingMonet late twenties early thirties. based on my research, i could be wrong.

@@richarddixon146 So basically if it ain't broke don't fix it

Fully loaded too. Cannons, weapons workshop, Vehicle Workshop. Collateral damage opponents don't stand a chance💪

Hydra

Join up, learn how to fly a real one.

Go outside

Will be getting one soon!

You called them “choppers” back then? In my time, we were expressly forbidden to call a helicopter a “chopper.” It’s “helo” or “helicopter” otherwise stand by for a court martial. 😂

This is amazing! Thanks for your service!

I had a chance to ride on one in Iraq,but,said no dice,that thing was SHAKING itself apart before take-off.Then add to the fact those puppies were crashing a lot in Iraq. And not due to enemy attacks.

Ask any Marine and they'll tell you that the Osprey is trash.

What’s ur annual income ?

@@johnnydoe9969 I am a senior federal government civil servant. Our pay is public knowledge and is easily found on the internet.

@@kaptainkaos1202 are the hiring?

@@kaptainkaos1202 how does one get a job like this? Certainly not on indeed

@@kaptainkaos1202 I did work with L3 before Harris and out of all companies we worked for, Boeing was the absolute worst. Every ODA and government TEs we worked with corroborated that. Bell was fine but the ones that had to do the joint work with Boeing on this had nothing good to say either.

*no no he’s got a point*

Like the 4 last week in Norway, yeah “current high safety”

Another one down. Theyre death traps

This is a terrible aircraft. A hangar queen. These have sold to only ONE other country (Japan.. And but a few) If its so great why won't our allies buy them? They buy Javelins, Stingers and F-35s...not this turkey.

I don’t know a single person in service that calls this death trap “safe”

@@somethinganything4864 i heard british marines thought they were going to have to use them in norway and there was a bit of a rebellion

Happened in Norway before that too

.. you mean rest in pieces, learn to build reliable aircraft

@@busybody1474 I almost typed that

heard it had a few mishaps in Asia bases..

Steve Sax's son was killed in the Southern California accident. But he died loving what he always wanted to do. RIP

he seems passionate.

True!

He didn't crash on camera, or they had a few extra ospreys just for this video!

Add me on snap chat I’ll show snaps of them all day 😭

We see them a lot in San Diego

whats the deal with pease these days, didnt it shut down or something

@@declanmckeown323 It's just Air National Guard now. Some commercial flights use the runways as well. The ground was contaminated with PFAS from fire fighting foam used in Air Force drills and millions have been spent on the cleanup.

Nothing like a sighting of american air dropped genocide. Ah yes, the sound of war crimes, so patriotic.

Ah gravity. It keeps us together.

I know that sound well. Here in L.A. whenever the president comes to town, three Ospreys shadow the Marine One helicopters from LAX to where ever the event is that he is attending. They are significantly louder but at a lower frequency. You'll never sneak up on anyone in one of these. But I think the shadowing is part of the evaluation process to see if they can eventually replace the aging helicopters.

@@jayski9410 Not in helicopter mode, no, but when we come into a zone in airplane mode it's pretty surprising. 60 seconds later, after a quick 180, we're on deck. It's pretty fast.

@@crewchief5144 yeah these things are far quieter in fixed wing mode than in VTOL.

I was out on the beach on the other side of the dunes at the truck access one day when a squad of these kept doing vertical touch and goes. They are huge and very loud. Kinda freaked me out as well knowing their history. I felt I wasn't far enough away if one of them malfunctioned.

I live in Lejeune they keep the residents entertained.

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with 28 or 29 accidents since it was made in 1990... yeee amazin

Sadly it's also one of the most dangerous 😕

Worst aircraft ever

Amazing until it crash.

I probably think that it would be better not to reveal your brothers posting. It may be used to target him and your family.

It doesn’t lose any altitude, we’re usually still in a climb during transition ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol

@@botheringsnape So then the feeling of acceleration is what it is, right?

@@midgetman4206 yep! plus the pilots pull the nose up several degrees because the osprey rides nose high in airplane mode - letting the back pressure out from that pull can make everyone light on their seats for a moment and it can feel like falling

@@botheringsnape Depends on the pilot. Boot pilots aren't so bad. Transition pilots from other platforms still think it's a helicopter.

You how many of these I've seen go down by it self they need revamp it

@@ceasar9456 I've heard they've gotten better over the years? Is that true? I have a buddy from boot camp who's a mechanic in the air wing, but haven't gotten the chance to ask him

@@acollierr17 they brake so much I asked the marines that land on our aircraft about them they said somethings always broken on it but they fly any way

@@acollierr17 i was in the navy n would see them land every 2-3 months while on deployment

@@ceasar9456 Like this video said, they probably triage a lot of the defects with the aircraft. So if it flies and it can "safely" transport weapons, gear and bodies, then that's all that matters. Regardless if it's a cosmetic issue or not

... you guys don't have enough Marines to work all the bugs out of that hunk of crap, scrap the damn things and design something reliable 💥

@@bradthompson5383 Only for Marines. The Air Force and Navy fly them very well.

It cost us eighty million dollars.... it's garbage. What a huge waste of money.

@@spiffygonzales5899 No, it's not. The Marine Corps pilots who have crashed these aircraft are the victims of substandard training. Ask any Air Force pilot who flies the Osprey and they'll tell you it's a solid performer.

That's the result of a piss-poor plane captain. Our squadrons always had at least one crew chief/plane captain assigned to each plane and usually an Avionicsman and an Airframer to keep it beautiful. Pride in ownership must not be a thing anymore. But, I'll put money that there's a pristine aircraft on the line that they spent all day getting pretty, and then overnight it got raped for parts and they had to use this one. Every. Damn. Time.

They are out of Cannon AFB. Holloman is fighters

@@isliofficial I think you are right, I didn't even know about that Air Force Base. I have no idea why they fly into here every once in awhile. An airplane crashed on takeoff out there yesterday. The pilot survived with minor injuries. I'm an avid fan of the new MS Flight Simulator 2020 and setting up to move from XBox X to full blown VR on a HP Reverb G2 at 4K.

The v22 can be stol too. But the pilots have to be ready to pitch the n-cells on approach as the propellers will contact the ground if they're not..

Yes there is... and the price tag is commensurately higher, too. I think the CV-22 was around $110M, at least at one point.

@@markp9139 That GOV tax money hits different. 😮‍💨lol

didnt twig til i read ur comment but these things are fuckin cool - they’re very close to a UNSC Pelican from the universe of Halo!!!!! Holy shit how cool is the modern day.

dangerous, how many have crashed just close to your house?

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Marines are poor give em a break man

Yeah cos a shredded up seat affects how it flies right... lmao

@@tywin1 the abundant oil staining under the engines doesn't lie

@@davon6704 not unless they appreciate what they have instead of cutting the seat up with a switchblade

You'd be surprised how many shredded up seats I sat in flying Army Black Hawks. I'd rather have working engines and avionics than new butt cushions...

Pilots do not fly for “24-Straight-Hours”. They have crew rest and are only allowed to fly in a certain window of time before landing after they show up to work. They go by the guidelines stated in the ‘Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization’ (NATOPS).

Much of their time will be on autopilot

They're not saying that other variants of the aircraft don't exist, for example if they make a video with the Navy about the F 35 theyre definitely going to use the c model.

Well the marine corps footed the development of the aircraft and fielded them first as well as trains the Air Force and navy

@@rhino4311 not necessarily. The development was facilitated by Navy employees. The flight clearance process rests with the Navy. We provide the clearances for USAF, USN and USMC. I’m a flight clearance, electrical, facilitator for all variants of V-22.

The Marines still have the most v22's, as well as train other branches. So if they were going to talk about the 22 it would be the best to use Marines. Also the Navy variant doesnt do combat and the air force's has alot of sneaky squirrel stuff so it was probably just convinient.

@@kaptainkaos1202 well navy and air force pilots and crew chiefs for the V22 get trained at Marine Medium tilt rotor squadron VMMT 204, and at the minimum the first pilots and crew chiefs were trained there, all marine aviation is dictated by the namp, I don’t know what you’re arguing about or what you’re point is. The marine corps is a part of the navy, but even navy maintenance personnel are trained at 204

And those hurricane parties. whew.

I went through HMT-302 at Tustin. I think the sunrises and sunsets there were better, but early '90's was nothing but libbo and chasing skirts.

You can make such a low effort, blanket statement about any Helicopter... Even the safest ones have had many "lethal accidents" over the years.

You are talking about a span of like 40 years. From the drawing board to testing to service.

this is infamous for it

Yeah, not able to glide or autorotate.

I’m lucky. As soon as I’m done with training this am I’ll be on one testing after lunch.

@@kaptainkaos1202 I wish you good luck

There was the XV-15 which proved the concept in the 1970s.

It takes an incredibly long to to get from technology demonstrator to in service aircraft, F35 started in the late 80s.

Isn't like that on most wing mounted prop planes?

Less than a foot from the blade tips to the skin of the fuselage

It has more to do with the rotation of the round and the airspeed/direction. The round’s path curves for the same reason a curveball does in baseball (Magnus effect)

@@botheringsnape perfect answer.

The MG is on the rear ramp and only covers that quadrant.

Left left low, right right high applies to all aerial gunnery. I was a CH-53 crew chief before I lat-moved and it's the same on that ramp gun. How I miss the GAU-21.

@@crewchief5144 my father is retired Navy and was a CH-46 crew chief for 10 years or so. SAR swimmer and all. I never realized my dad is a hero and such a bada$$. He keeps in touch with some people he rescued after all these years.

POTUS was not on either of the aircraft you saw. HMX-1, the Presidentail support squadron, uses the V-22 for logistics and non-VIP transport. There are palletized internal fuel tanks that can be used to extend the range, in addition to aerial refueling capability. One squadron once loaded up a V-22 with the maximum 3 internal tanks, and flew it non-stop from Miramar (San Diego) to New River (Camp Lejeune, Jacksonville, NC) without aerial refueling... about 2500nm.

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Kkona

@@holidayfartcruise9066 you know that USA and EU countries have committed more human right violations throughout their history than china has ever. USA isn’t free neither, massive inequalities but it’s at least better than 70% of other countries

Lol people like you would talk yourselves into being happy to quarter soldiers "At least they're ours!"

Sounds like you need to move. Lol.

great idea

ground level, crash

Best way: Get rid of sleepy presidents :-)

GTAO 😂

I saw same too, can't remember when or what base. Perhaps Quantico or New River. Or maybe Cubi point. My memory is bad now, but yes I saw that same thing. I was a ch53 hydraulics man from 73 to 77

Ya correct, It’s a bit quicker but doesn’t deliver much more than a medium/heavy helicopter.

I mean the US does have money for both but decoded this would be cool

? "...don't have enough budget..." ??? Have you not yet learned about the Military-Industrial Complex? Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe, 5 Star General and President of the USA Dwight Eisenhower did.

@@arcanondrum6543 mate are you okay? Seems like you've gotten too ar into the media

@@ipant1056 Yes it was complete sarcasm! Even my country India has enough budget to buy and make all kinds of defense accessories:)

WConn100 "... consider dropping the four year degree BS." If I may add to your input: It seemed at one time, if a pilot desired to later move their career path in the direction of test pilot, the degree(s), in Engineering and Math were required.

@@vinyltapelover If you desire to move your career in a different direction then fine, achieve the desired degrees. MOST airline pilots do not take this route, therefore requiring such education only makes it harder to make it to the airlines. The Army when it realized how many helicopter pilots it needed adjusted requirements, established the Warrant rank and accepted HS grads. It was an arbitrary decision to require a degree to fly for the military and airlines and many had dropped this requirement thru the years. It's all a matter of supply and demand.

The degree is morso because he's an officer. All Officers need a 4 year bachelor's, and all Aviators in the Marine Corps are Officers. Army has a lot more aircraft than the Marine Corps. Marine Corps doesn't need as many pilots as does the Army.

@@WConn100 " If you desire to move your career in a different direction then fine, achieve the desired degrees" I am 73, retired military and am not looking for a career change only to polish my motorcycle and shine the chrome. My response to your initial comment was not to dispute, argue or find fault in your thoughts as they were pretty much spot on. If you had paid attention to detail and pulled your head out of your armpit, you would have observed how I respectfully approach my comment to you. Your follow up reply also contained valued information. As this is ideally a "community" and no one person knows everything, it was my intent Only to hopefully add some additional input, from active and retired military pilots, who are smarter and knowledgeable about this stuff as they have been in the "business". Some have their own channels while others are visitors to some of the various military aviation you tube channels. "Arbitrary" is plainly a fact of life regardless of the profession anyone enters. It's ones choice to put up with the perceived b.s., deal, with what it takes to get that particular brass ring or whine, snivel and go mope and cry in a beer. "Arbitrary"?? Considering their academic education and aviation skills, ask then recently discharged World War II, Tuskegee Airmen, how they felt about "arbitrary" when they attempted to apply for civilian pilot positions.with the airlines. As I have hired and promoted people, they can have all the qualities, you mentioned of aptitude, test scores and desire. There is one quality you left out and that is having a of a positive Attitude, That can make a difference is whether they will fit in smoothly with the organization or will they plain "suck". A positive attitude, with or without a degree, goes along way. You might want to try it .sometime. Now I'm going to crank up the ol' Victrola, and chill out to the sounds of Miles Davis, Lynyrd Skynyrd and James Brown.:).

It's gotten way better over the years, but yes the ratio of maintenance hours to flight hours is pretty brutal but it's like that with most operational aircraft.