Love the analysis, keep it up. Andrea Stella has confirmed that a low drag rear wing is in the works because they simply cannot go to Monza without one.
I can’t believe how complicated that graph was, but still completely understandable. You’re amazing at visualizing this and explaining this ! Keep it up !
Love this channel for the best insight and actual data on F1. Discovered the past few months and certainly have been rewarded for subscribing with quality content 👌
I think People could "see" better if there was a way to know exactingly what say 5kmh difference on the main straight at Spa equated to in feet and/or meters. For instance, on a 200 meter track section, 5kmh difference might only be .661 meters on a straight section, but on a low speed tight corner, that same 5kmh difference might be more like 2 full meters, or almost half a car length. I think this would be very helpful to "the common enthusiast" because this is EXACTLY how a Race Set Up Engineer decides where to focus, and where to allow compromise...... Well except maybe Ferrari...... This would help a lot of people to understand better, especially on Sprint race weekends where track time is so limited.
Great Video! Andrea Stella said that for Monza they are going to have a low down force package let’s see if they have it in time, he admitted that they didn’t focus on low down force with these upgrades.
my quez - how many brown paper bags full of money, was slipped to checco - to crash the RB at monaco letting the entire field see the floor. And why did checco, then proceed to rear end that same RB, into the barriers, in first practice, about three or four times thereafter. he seems to have learned to drive the car out of the pits for more than a lap again.... now I'm not going full Briatorie here - but I'm getting close. This floor is the single most reason MCL is now fast enough to podium....and the other teams wont be too far behind sticking that same floor on their tractors.
McLaren would've got the ideas from RB's floor some other time maybe last year. Because upgrades on the floor was introduced 1 month after checo crashed in monaco 2023. I don't think 1 month is enough time to adopt ideas from RB 2023 monaco floor and then develop it in time for Austria. Maybe McLaren got RB floor ideas from checo crash at monaco last year.
Random observation here. I had seats in Miami near the start lights. I could see into most of the garages very clearly with binoculars. I noticed Lando running a front wing with a different shape in FP2, compared to the one he ran in FP1, and different from Oscar’s in FP2. It did not appear for the remainder of the weekend. Could it have been a pre-cursor of the new parts to come, in order to collect data? He had a much different FP2 compared to the rest of the weekend.
This is awesome! I love your content, really great explanations and easily to understand. And Andrea Stella was talking about them doing something for Monza etc. and prodrucing a new rear wing. They just didn't have the time yet. Hopefully it'll help. They have the drivers, this season could get more interesting in the fight for second.
@@awesomefacematt and especially since there are some slow speed corners in mexico, you don't only have a lack of downforce from low air density but also from slow speeds you are going. So high downforce is absolutely required.
Thank you so much for sharing this Great concrete information! It’s so refreshing to have actual data as opposed to just a bunch of self declared expert opinions.
i think Mclaren team understands the budget cap is a big concern, so they rather stop all the development in winter and just wait for the data of the first 3 races, and built from the real world data and not simulated data where Aston Martin was last year, lucky they turn around this year, Aston martin was the slower than William last year. As mercedes team always claimed they 'found the problems, and they have upgrades to fix it', they are still No.2 in the chart not because they have solve the problem, it is just every team is still messing around with fake data they acquired. Mclaren is basically avoiding "Until you really found the problem, you already ran out of budget for the year. "
I came to f1 from a donut media mclaren j-damper video! then I had a wtf1 phase; then came Driver61/tommo/p1/The race phase, and for some reasons now I watch internet's two most fraudulent people talk about races and this data rich content! Side-effect : I find multiple channels I was into earlier bland! only a handful survived because of channel personality! THat's what you get for pausing on every graph and look at each vector trying to guess it before blake explains it :| In short, Thanks man. I love f1 in a whole different way now.
New to your channel, really liking how you lay things out and the look of your videos. Is there a way to see if it’s the driver or the car? In all the data that you see can you see if Lando is getting 100% from the car?
I'm worried that their working too hard on this year's car and not much on next years car , which is the opposite of what Aston Martin is doing. That drop in form for Aston means their working HEAVILY on next years car
Hi, quick question here. With the great development of mclaren mid season, would you say they are in a top 3 or maybe even 2 position for 2024, or that Mclaren will miss out on the deadline of developing their new car again/ or its not going to be in contention? And that they are in a good position to be contending for race wins and/championships as early as 2025 or 2026?
Loved the way u explained such a complex topic in a simple and effective manner...definitely learned a lot in detail abt f1 today...vud love to see more such videos❤💥
Hi! just found your page and loving the data analysis.. where or how did you get these data points? I would love to use these data for a class project. Thank!
That's some monster works man! Suggestion: create few videos without showing your Face & track how it goes. And, don't put so many geek info in a single video.
To me, I think McLarens low speed corner entry stability solutions are mostly all mechanical in nature. Any Aero tweaking is going to adversely effect mid and high speed performance.
@brrrake My experience is mostly in helping to develop small aircraft that utilize a dual element wing (Quest Kodiak aircraft). We used every trick in the book to be airborne from stationary (zero) in well under 100 meters (STOL-"Short Take-Off and Landing), and still achieve a respectable cruise speed (over 200 knots). Gaining over 12 knots by the way the added cargo pod interacted with the fixed landing gear. All along the way, the challenge was to always find the "best compromise" (if there is such a thing). I never saw an instance where you could BOTH lower stall speed AND maintain top end performance, even with outboard Vortex generators and variable ailerons. Below 100kmh it is very hard to create lift (suction) that does not directly effect high speed efficiency. And yes, I understand how exhausted heated air from the radiators can be used to influence a "weakened effect" at greater speeds. In fact, I would point directly at that concept for how the RB19 is so far ahead of its competition.
@@stephensegal5187 that's actually really interesting! I will say that in the case of these cars, the vehicle states (yaw, steer, roll, curvature, front ride height, rear ride height) differ massively from high speed to low speed. So there are plenty of ways in which development can carefully target a specific region IE: low speed entry. It may not be the easiest areas to impact, but it is done! Really cool to see someone else with experience drawing analogues and expanding on it as you've done!
@brrrake I am also a Supernational Shifterkarting Champion (2003 Supernats in Las Vegas). That is actually how I ended up involved (got noticed by the right Person) with the aircraft project originally. I welcome Anyone Worldwide to open discussion about the technical aspects of these modern "Aero cars". They are a whole different animal from the flatbottom tuna barges. After Senna's untimely death at speed via "breaking suction" on a full fuel load (according to Michael who was right behind Him), and then ground effects being banned, I never thought We would ever see them allowed in F1 ever again. It's an absolute PLEASURE to Me to add that dimension back into the mix.
@brrrake In actuality, the way ground effects work, you will get the best results by minimizing any changes of the relationship of the car to the racing surface. The whole "positive rake thing" (flat bottom car) goes out the window, and you get new challenges such as trying to get adequate heat into the tires because tire slip is much harder to now achieve.......
Comparint Max (short corner driver) to Lando (long corner driver) with telemetry would be very difficult. You would be better doing Checo and Lando. Max is always going to be better out of corners and Lando will always be showing more speed into corners
I always hear that Lando is a long corner driver, but I think it would be interesting to see his driving style through the junior formulas. Because Lando has repeatedly mentioned how the handling characteristics of the McLaren have kinda forced him into U ing the corners in a way different to his natural style, so perhaps this accounts for his long corner driving atm? He may have always driven that way but I think it would be interesting to see.
I think the biggest question is, did McLaren “improve” their car or did they “unlock” their car? I remember back in 09, a lot of people thinking that McLaren made this sudden leap of car performance but it was more an “unlocking” because of their FWEP being inwash at first and starving the sidepods of air, and getting their WD wrong. Could this be something similar?
Its really hard to tell. But it just sounds like they added some load. This is improving to me, especially considering they've changed sidepod concepts a bit as far as my terrible eye can spot
Some of those corner speed differences could be down to driving style rather than purely car abilities Edit - its been widely reported that Norris focusses on corner entry at the detriment to corner exit speed l but he's trying to alter this style.
"Stop braking too late" isn't that hard and a driver can usually sort that in a single free practice session. I feel like driving style goes a lot deeper than the stuff we can see in the data, genuinely! Whatever that was, he did a better job of it after bahrain!
It looks to me like Lando is overdriving the car and struggles to keep it balanced, braking a bit too late in each corner, having to slow down a bit too much every time to make up for it. I love the kid, he's my favorite after Lewis and Max, but the data doesn't lie. I'm referring to the 5:15 graph about medium speed corners mainly. Wish we would have steering input data as well to see who turns in earlier. I bet Max has the earlier but smoother turn in.
Love this channel, always wondering how teams could benchmark competitor team engine performance baed on GPS data. How to compensate impact from different aero drag level and traction characteristics between cars, and come up with realistic engine performance assessment, could you do and episode on that in the future?
I can to some extent. It becomes slightly tricky to estimate engine power and drag separately, so a bit of guesswork is necessary. A very interesting topic! So let me see what I can come up with
Thanks! one related question, is RedBull enjoying an engine advantage this season? Everybody in and out of the paddock was reiterating on aero. Could RB be just running deeper wings and more than compensate it with engine power. Which also explains their superior DRS gains on fast long straits. @@brrrake
