How Mistaken Maps Led to the Founding of New York City (New Amsterdam)

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Henry Hudson discovered New York Bay and the river that bears his name in September of 1609. While this was by accident, he wasn’t just sailing aimlessly. He was led there…by mistaken maps…but how?
I first came across this story about a month ago when I was just looking through maps at RareMaps.com. It’s like map nerd heaven. There are literally thousands of antique maps, with detailed descriptions. I’ll often search famous explorers or map makers and just see what pops up, and then examine the maps. I’m from Virginia, and enjoy studying it’s colonial era so I searched…John Smith
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@mikebronicki8264 2 года назад

There is an impressive amount of research compiled here. This is an under-subscribed channel.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I appreciate it!

@principalmcvicker6530 2 года назад

Great video, obviously a lot of work and thought went into it. Love your channel

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you!

@AlbertPOost Год назад

Great work! Having studied ancient maps for years, I realise you did a fantastic job!

@vaphiadis1 Год назад

@@GeographyGeekI've always been fascinated by maps . Bird's-eye view into the past and present. Thanks for all your thorough knowledge and work you put into the videos . ❤💯

@WyomingTraveler 2 года назад

Your video frequently pointed out European assumptions based on information from local Indians. One of the stories was of a great river to the north which flowed into another river which then flowed into the sea. Europeans thought the sea may have been the Pacific Ocean, but could it have been the Ohio going into the Mississippi and then the Gulf of Mexico? I also think that many times the Indians told the European explorers what they thought the explorers wanted to hear, not what was actually there.

@Byronic19134 2 года назад

I love these videos full of random tidbits from letters and interactions between explorers and Natives who much of the time seemed to be trying to help each other.

@zimriel Год назад

The First Nations were divided; but the Europeans were also divided. The Europeans knew the Nations were divided and also the Nations knew the Europeans were divided. A few European/American fusion nations came into being, themselves: the Acadians in what's now "Nova Scotia"; and the Seminole, adding Africans to that mix. IIRC the Arawak language today mostly survives among blacks who learnt that language having escaped their masters.

@Painskii 2 года назад

Hey man it's Mason from 3rd block just wanted to say be safe!😅

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Hey Mason!! You too man!

@ExclemationMark 2 года назад

As a Dutch thanks for making those videos. And you pronounce the Dutch names well!

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you! I was a little worried. I had to repeat each like a dozen times and I still wasn’t 100% sure I was saying them right.

@ExclemationMark 2 года назад

@@GeographyGeek haha for a non Dutch speaker it’s good!

@jezusbloodie 2 года назад

@@GeographyGeeki am Dutch, i think you're nailing it for an American on youtube

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I appreciate that!

@vercingetorix3414 2 года назад

You can find many copies of early maps in the 6 volume work called: The Iconography of Manhattan Island.

@michaelhughes6477 2 года назад

Wonderful wonderful video. Great imagery,.. Superb information. Congrats to all involved. More please.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you! I have many more planned that I hope you like as well.

@samanthasebastian1810 2 года назад

Great video keep up the fantastic work 😁

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you!!

@LizbetPCB 2 года назад

I’m riveted by this type of content. The first time I saw Lake Ontario, I just had to taste it. I knew it was Ontario, but it was an irresistible impulse. Okay, it’s weird. I own it.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I thought I was going to feel the same way about the Great Salt Lake but then I got out of the car and smelt it.

@dutchman7623 2 года назад

@@GeographyGeek Felt some urge at Badwater near Furnace Creek, but nah... In Dutch it means bathing water, and I could only imagine what took a bath there.

@joshstainton8207 2 года назад

Isn't Lake Ontario like incredibly polluted?

@LizbetPCB 2 года назад

@@joshstainton8207 I don’t think so. At least, not as bad as our oceans.

@aaronhrynyk 2 года назад

@@joshstainton8207 it’s Lake Erie that has the massive algae blooms

@derekhugh 2 года назад

This makes me want to play Civilization

@dutchman7623 2 года назад

👍 Excellent! High quality study!

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I appreciate it!

@pietergreveling 2 года назад

As always, a great documentary! 👌🏼✌🏼

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thanks as always!

@iangreig6744 2 года назад

Truly wonderful video. Congratulations on your fine work. More please. Ian Greig

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you! I have many more planned hopefully you like them as well.

@muffinman2649 2 года назад

Love the vids man keep it up🤙

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I appreciate it!

@gloriuspaprikachips 2 года назад

As always your videos are a treat! This one also. Love the way you make a story out of the info you've found.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

I appreciate the kind words!

@benjaminrush4443 2 года назад

Love old maps and drawings associated. Noticed one picture around 2:50 showing whale hunting right off the coast. In my interest in Colonial History, the Native Americans would hunt whales just off the beaches of Cape Cod and the Islands. Also, when younger, I did extensive research on Maps & Drawing associated with Boston, Mass. My hometown. Topography. Before New York City, Boston was known as the "Hub of the Universe". Prior, Salem, Mass. had some of the first Colonial Ships sailing to the Orient. Not to detract from your extensive study of New Amsterdam. Still today I certainly enjoy documentaries of your caliber & detail. Thanks.

@nicholas3492 2 года назад

Great content. Thank you.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you!

@stephenkevindoss1474 2 года назад

There is a connection with smith to sir Francis bacon that will be of great interest to you along with a great mystery of the 40th parallel that is decoded in the Chesapeake map. Look up “Susquehanna alchemy” I think you will enjoy.

@AlexanderWeurding 2 года назад

Great work again! Thanks! btw what is up with Tartaria? Can you make a video about that?

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you! That’s not a bad idea! It was basically this huge misunderstood area east of the Ural Mountains to the Pacific Ocean.

@ohasis8331 Год назад

Interesting little yarn backed by an obvious great deal of work on your part. Thanks for the video.

@outdoorwally8430 2 года назад

Great video. GOOD JOB👍

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you!

@smontone Год назад

I’ve never heard of the north east passage attempts. Very interesting!

@DanielleAlek Год назад

It's almost uncanny how this video casually brings up some of the most horrific experiences and atrocities that can happen while a giddy ye-olde flute plays in the background lmao

@simon7762 2 года назад

Great video!

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you!

@aaronjaben7913 2 года назад

I subscribed!

@TRUEROOTS2022 2 года назад

More colonial VA please. Great work keep going bro.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thank you! There definitely will be. I have a couple ideas in mind I would like to do but it may be a bit before I get to them.

@jonhelmer8591 Год назад

Fascinating Stuff!

@hermanvonsprudelwasser 2 года назад

Top video!

@oddballsok 2 года назад

3:57 WHAT IS THE title of this painting..and what is the meaning of the meandering column of soldier in the mid distance ???

@bastiaan4129 2 года назад

The battle of Fleurus by Peeter Snayers. (Google Lens is your friend ;) ) I dont know whats up with the spiraling cavalry in the back though.

@Snaakie83 2 года назад

This is what happens if a "War Reporter" (artist) isn't around to see the actual battle he depicts, but has to rely on battle reports and survivor stories in stead.

@amycupcake6832 2 года назад

Life expectancy was mid 40s if you don't account for the insanely high child mortality, which bumps it up to 60~

@lindakay9552 2 года назад

Geography Geek, do you know anything about 1620s -1640s about Connecticut that DOESN'T have to do with the Pequot war? My 9th great grandfather was there. He fought at Saybrook Fort, then Mystick Fort. He was there by 1624. He was a founder of Norwich. His great grandson married one of William Bradford's great granddaughters, Hannah Bradford But we cannot figure out where he came from before Saybrook. 🥺 .I can't find much about Connecticut then, besides the Pequot/ Narangsette battles.

@kevinmoore.7426 2 года назад

Impressive research

@lindakay9552 2 года назад

@@kevinmoore.7426 I'd be more impressed by someone who can tell me what was happening in 1620-50 Connecticut that DIDN'T have to do with the Pequot/Narangsette battles. It's especially hard to find out whether there were more Dutch, or English settlers, specifically, at Saybrook, prior to the arrival of Major John Mason. It's right before that battle where the trail goes cold.

@kevinmoore.7426 2 года назад

I descend from Roger Williams who founded the RI colony in 1630s. The people probably moved south from The Plymouth Colony

@lindakay9552 2 года назад

@@kevinmoore.7426 all our arrows seem to point to Plymouth. Especially since our Eldest known male had a great grandson who married William Bradford's great granddaughter. We know this "Eldest Edgerton" was a military man. We know he was a freeman. We know he know he is the progenitor of numerous military offspring. Cannot find a single document lining him to Plymouth. Congrats to you for knowing about your ancestry! We're a dying breed!

@kevinmoore.7426 2 года назад

@@lindakay9552 Roanoake was very early1600, Jamestown 1618 ?, Plymouth 1620? Where else could an English man come from then ?

@misterbacon4933 2 года назад

Very interesting history!

@floris3239 2 года назад

I'm not sure how happy New Yorkers or Nieuw Amsterdammers are when you tell them they are a mistake. 😁

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

😂

@petercarioscia9189 2 года назад

As a new Yorker with self awareness; yes NY is a mistake lol

@walterbushell7029 2 года назад

Most people are caused by accident, which are usually result of a mistake of one type or another. So be careful around the house.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

@@walterbushell7029 😂 thanks I’ll keep this in mind.

@ken2tou Год назад

Great story! Thanks!

@jamess5415 2 года назад

Excellent content!

@arturovaldes546 Год назад

You are mistaken the husdon river was discovered by captain Gomez under spain , he named the river Saint Anthony. The kung Charles V , was primarily looking for gold and did not start any settlement.

@highbrass7563 Год назад

I f******* love your channel

@GeographyGeek Год назад

😂 that means a lot!

@jayrockstedy9890 2 года назад

There is also a New Amsterdam in Guyana South America was once a Dutch colony

@kevinmoore.7426 2 года назад

Was the St Lawrence River navigational originally?

@jtgd Год назад

6:02 didn’t know they knew each other, much less friends

@sethstoots15 Год назад

Virginia is and always will be where I call home.

@lesterandrews1894 2 года назад

I have covid ,I watching some videos , I like these stories ,

@jake13122 2 года назад

I thought it was all about the Northwest passage? Never heard of the Northeast passage before.

@deleted-something Год назад

Very interesting

@johnsantos764 Год назад

Fascinating

@danielsmith7856 Год назад

The thick collars they wore was to prevent them from licking their wounds

@jtgd Год назад

1:36 Egghead!

@SverreMunthe Год назад

21:05 Life expectancy at birth, or at his age? Life expectancy at birth might have been 50-75% less than for a grown person, especially a man who wasn't prone to dying in childbirth.

@davidmontville4885 2 года назад

17:02 Further denotes sequence, not distance. FARTHER is the proper word.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Thanks.

@davidmontville4885 2 года назад

@@GeographyGeek YW

@darrellc.symonds9339 Год назад

The native Americans were correct, they could access the great lakes via the Hudson River connecting to other lakes and rivers.

@zimriel Год назад

... with canals. Which the natives didn't build

@karlbergen6826 Год назад

This reminds me of another video where.the Great.Salt Lake and the two Slave Lakes appear to have been assumed to be a much larger.body of water and be associated with the Pacific Ocean. Other lakes also are in this confusion.

@YuriTarrdid Год назад

This is quintessential RU-vid.

@ingramjd 2 года назад

nice one...

@jamesbusald7426 2 года назад

great story dude. I'll be back.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Happy to hear it!

@rexmyers991 2 года назад

VERY interesting.

@nunlino 2 года назад

Great video! And thinking that the Portuguese have reached India in 1498 and China in 1514, what were the Dutch and other European nations doing sailing to the wrong side of the globe over 100 years later? :) :)

@edwardmiessner6502 2 года назад

Avoiding the Spanish, Portuguese, and Ottomans that's what

@Snaakie83 2 года назад

The Netherlands weren't around at that time, just a collection of 17 (Belgium included) provinces that fell under the Habsburg empire. So just technically speaking, since we were part of the Spanish empire, which included Portugal at times, we were there all along 😂

@henrijansen4224 Год назад

@@Snaakie83 Good logic Ruben! Sometimes you still have to kick there asses. 🤭🤣🤣🤣

@DieselWeazel Год назад

I’m a map nerd/Truck driver

@GeographyGeek Год назад

Happy you’re here!

@kindnessfirst9670 Год назад

ALL. maps are mistaken since it's impossible to accurately represent a three dimensional surface in two dimensions.

@alvinomar6 2 года назад

We must change the rivers name imidietlly.

@therealoldnosey8689 Год назад

Why did natives keep telling Europeans that there was an inland sea

@zimriel Год назад

because they had seen the shores of the Great Lakes and not what lay beyond, probably. and Hudson Bay might actually count as an inland sea.

@kevinmoore.7426 2 года назад

Susquehanna?

@tompenningdevries6756 2 года назад

The America s weren t the work field of the VOC but the WIC. The Wic did all the business for the dutch in the West and the VOC in the east

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

Correct but the WIC wasn’t founded until 1621.

@misterbacon4933 2 года назад

Perfect answer. In later time the WIC was established to break the Spanish trade and to take it over. It was in fact a war/trade body. It was successful and harming Spain that the WIC mentioned in the Spanish conditions to get independents for the Dutch to give up the WIC.

@waynemarvin5661 2 года назад

It's Northwest passage. A northeast passage would be around Norway.

@GeographyGeek 2 года назад

You haven’t finished the video yet have you? lol

@MetJetPat 2 года назад

I was gonna say the same thing but I will wait till the end. At this moment I'm halfway.

@bach447 Год назад

Stolen not discovered

@JohnDoe-dw8sf 10 месяцев назад

How are you going to make that video and not mention Adrian Block and Cornelius Hendrickson? Hendricksons map is on display at the Hauge in Amsterdam. The "Unrest" (Restless), the first vessel of that kind built on North American continent to this day has a replica still on the bay you can actually take a tour in. In just 4 months Block, Hendrickson, the crew, and Natives built that ship using salvaged ship parts and timber. Hendrickson traveled inland on foot to pay ransom for three crew members from different company home overseas to their families. It is also noted the Hendrickson may have been the first White European male to set foot on that land by Mr Hudsons bay.

@skyblueo 2 года назад

"Bad maps" are just the information we have at the time. I suspect we have currently "bad maps" of our galaxy. That to will change.

@paulhomer8872 Год назад

Needs to be shorter length of video

@GeographyGeek Год назад

Speed it up

@highbrass7563 Год назад

@@GeographyGeek I personally appreciate the length of the video. I think it's perfect right around 20 to 35 mins

@GeographyGeek Год назад

@@highbrass7563 Great to hear. This was originally planned to be 7-15 minutes like most of my videos but I couldn't find anything I felt like I could take out.

@highbrass7563 Год назад

@@GeographyGeek Tremendous! Thank you for your reply. Such a huge fan!!!!

@GeographyGeek Год назад

@@highbrass7563 no problem! Thank you!

@florisonyoutube5349 2 года назад

🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱

@nosny3570 2 года назад

of only those explorers had GPS... imagine how much faster those greedy European Monarchs could have damaged the world

@malcolmrose3361 2 года назад

You have to wonder what New York would have been like had the Pilgrim Fathers landed there as planned - New Amsterdam was a pretty free wheeling place from it's inception. One can only wonder what the character of the city would be like today if it had been run from the start by a bunch of religious fundamentalists.

@johnsilva9139 2 года назад

It would be like Boston. Good thing the Dutch settled in New York and planted the seeds for the future United States of America, i.e. multi-cultural and democratic.

@malcolmrose3361 2 года назад

@@johnsilva9139 I guess. I know every country mythologizes it's past but I've always thought it very strange that the Mayflower colonists should have a place front and centre in America's popular history.