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How MUCH BETTER is MII BRAWLER in 12.0.0?? (BUFF Analysis and new tech!) 

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Mii Brawler has been buffed in multiple ways during the 12.0.0 patch. But what do these changes really mean? Are his previously trashy specials now viable? Or even broken?? I will discuss the changes and new tech and kill confirms possible with these buffs!
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-Pokemon XD - Mirror B
-Persona 3 - During The Test
-Locks Quest - Tutorial
-Mario Galaxy - Honeyhive Galaxy
-Zelda PH - The King of the Oceans

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@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Correction: The best DI against aerial Onslaught is actually not just away, but slightly down and away. This makes it kill from 130-150% without rage, instead of 120%
@fallen2292
@fallen2292 3 года назад
When will the fix fair just dropping
@helios3557
@helios3557 3 года назад
This video has done what nothing else could It actually kind of made me want to try out onslaught
@nickwing7894
@nickwing7894 3 года назад
Same
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Don't fall for it
@CaptainNimrod3248
@CaptainNimrod3248 3 года назад
USE IT USE IT
@nayosadumbtrooper
@nayosadumbtrooper 3 года назад
As a Mii Brawler main who uses onslaught, don't do it to yourself.
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 3 года назад
Helios, you should know better than to think Onslaught is usable.
@WhyDo
@WhyDo 3 года назад
Awesome video as always! Also worth mentioning, against many characters & DIs, you can cover all tech options except for tech out with slightly charged downsmash - just reacting to the tech timing. So mastering that + using FMP properly could make tech chases really heavily weighted in your favor. Speaking as a FMP main, the range increase really is a beautiful thing. Stuff like jump OoS -> drift -> slightly delayed FMP has a disturbing amount of reach now, this might make FMP + Suplex even better together.
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
True, downsmash makes techchases even more insane! Suplex and FMP are probably really sick cause FMP covers conditioned spotdodges, I'll definitely try doing that more!
@ssctiyo4735
@ssctiyo4735 3 года назад
Easier Fornite Flash
@Sledder2000
@Sledder2000 3 года назад
0:48 ah yes my favorite character, Chroy
@AfrogL
@AfrogL 3 года назад
I’m glad they made Head-On Assault break a full shield on the ground but I wish they could’ve adjusted the launch angle slightly rather than just increase its knockback
@samuelungar6528
@samuelungar6528 3 года назад
I don't even play brawler, but these videos make me want to.
@themightymrpink
@themightymrpink 3 года назад
So happy for Mii buffs! They were long overdue.
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 3 года назад
Glad to see improvement, but when the best changes require 100+ for good options, they aren't that good.
@mohamedbelbaali659
@mohamedbelbaali659 3 года назад
So now you have to choose between a command grab, a recovery or a kill move
@derpygoldenpig
@derpygoldenpig 3 года назад
As the only person on the planet who actually wanted miis in smash 4, I’m so happy to see their competitive potential in ultimate
@Stickmanlolz
@Stickmanlolz 3 года назад
I exclusively use FMP over shotput even at launch, love seeing it get buffed steadily into a genuinely good option.
@Rukir
@Rukir 3 года назад
So now mii brawler has another playstyle to build a playstyle around, a tech chase monster (more than he already was). sick
@nickwing7894
@nickwing7894 3 года назад
Your vids leave so much to be desired The desire to subscribe and hit the bell that is.
@diegocaballero7961
@diegocaballero7961 3 года назад
Really interesting video, thanks for sharing your thoughts and explaining what do these buffs mean!
@cjlite0210
@cjlite0210 3 года назад
I will certainly benefit from the FMP buffs As for Onslaught, while I do agree that's it's a lot stronger, I suck at recovering too much to replace Burning Drop Kick
@BoomBoxBlaz
@BoomBoxBlaz 3 года назад
Embrace the limit! Helikick, Head-On Assault and Onslaught are waiting. RUSHDOWN BRAWLER IS COMING!
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 3 года назад
Which standard special? Fmp?
@backfloop
@backfloop 2 года назад
Don’t forget Exploding Side Kick
@backfloop
@backfloop 2 года назад
@@CyanicCore never
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 2 года назад
@@backfloop Why not? Don't you want to waste a special on a worse version of standard moves?
@backfloop
@backfloop 2 года назад
@@CyanicCore Exploding side kick is a better waste. I like it
@Splonton
@Splonton 3 года назад
I feel I can now justify running onslaught from time to time, and HoA is just one buff away from being better than counter throw
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Even if HoA were to be better than CT, it is still MILES away from being close to as good as Feint Jump :/
@Splonton
@Splonton 3 года назад
@@Gaegel yeah, but at least then I'd be able to justify using it every now and then for more than just meming on my opponent and killing them at zero with the funny headbutt move
@ivrydice0954
@ivrydice0954 3 года назад
Dang I thought HOA was better than counter throw.
@Splonton
@Splonton 3 года назад
@@ivrydice0954 nah, HoA is doodoo
@ivrydice0954
@ivrydice0954 3 года назад
@@Splonton I thought they were both bad.... For the same reason of course, sometimes they just don't work.
@imjlu
@imjlu 3 года назад
I just wish they'd fix Onslaught so it's like FMP and ends early on shield/whiff instead of having 55? frames of lag. At this point that's obviously intentional, but how do they not realize that giving it way more lag than Ganon fsmash is terrible design?
@somegalnamedseelpit3713
@somegalnamedseelpit3713 3 года назад
_70_ frames? For real? I knew it was deemed "unsafe" on shield, but that's just insane °^°
@imjlu
@imjlu 3 года назад
@@somegalnamedseelpit3713pretty sure I was wrong. I think it's actually 50-something. Still, point stands.
@amar2278
@amar2278 3 года назад
I always love use FMP and i'm really happy to see this move buff
@SCS000
@SCS000 3 года назад
I dont play mii’s but you are making me consider it
@mysoulhurts5955
@mysoulhurts5955 3 года назад
A Mii Brawler main? I see that you have fine taste good sir. Here, have my sub fellow Mii Main and have a good day.
@antoniopriego5660
@antoniopriego5660 3 года назад
Another huge Onslaugh flaw I hadn't considered is that it works better with rage and againts superheavies This is bas because superheavies tend to kill very early. Yeah, it kills Bowser at 70% when you are at 150%... but let's be honest, reaching 150% againts Bowser is miracle
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
That's the thing, and once you miss it at any percent over 50, you're most likely dead
@Doilem
@Doilem 3 года назад
Will you still be running 1312 as your main kit or will you be shaking things up because of these buffs?
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
My main movesets will still be 1312 and 1332; other than that I sometimes pick different moves in specific matchups, like 1322 vs some heavies, 2312 vs Lucario, 1212 vs Belmonts etc. If I find the time to practice, I'll definitly experiment with more moves though
@MystDawg
@MystDawg 3 года назад
With every video how to use HoA gets pushed down lower and lower on the channels page. Don't forget the mission brothers, don't let his new content deceive you with it's informative allure. This was but a taste of how to use onslaught
@maxzwang
@maxzwang 3 года назад
8:47 why can bowser act before the angel platform is fully descended?
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
It's part of the training room mod, after getting KO'ed characters don't respawn normally but just get dropped in from the top blastzone -> they can act immediately
@maxzwang
@maxzwang 3 года назад
oh I see that's funny, thanks for the quick reply! I don't even play brawler but I love your videos lol :)
@kale4792
@kale4792 3 года назад
Chroy
@sdani.
@sdani. 3 года назад
your voice is so familiar
@aicragfalo5094
@aicragfalo5094 3 года назад
In my opinion, it would be most conducive towards proper game balance if Nintendo were to reduce the strength of all three Mii fighters. In other words, these recent buffs are unnecessary at best, and counterproductive at worst. If Nintendo hopes to achieve a perfectly balanced fighting game experience in Smash Ultimate, they would be well advised to significantly reduce the damage and range of Mii Brawler's Suplex, giving it a range on par with Bowser's Flying Slam and a damage output similar to the total amount conferred by connecting with a single jab combo. Brawler's neutral aerial attack is also disproportionately fast to come out, considering its extreme potential for starting and extending combos. To be specific, it would be in the best interest for the competitive community at large if Brawler's neutral aerial attack were to begin on frame ten as opposed to frame two. My goal is nothing less than perfect balance within Smash Ultimate.
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Olaf has found his alter ego
@Supernir
@Supernir 3 года назад
Not at all
@lordninetails514
@lordninetails514 3 года назад
The last thing the miis needed in this game was another buff. But sakurai loves buffing good characters and leaving bad characters untouched forever smh. Most balanced smash game my ass.
@MystDawg
@MystDawg 3 года назад
Bruh this is the funniest shiz I swear. The lawful neutral has arisen
@Supernir
@Supernir 3 года назад
@@lordninetails514 well it literally is, compared to 64, Melee, Brawl..., and the many stages of Sm4sh
@ZoofyZoof
@ZoofyZoof 3 года назад
I despise every mii fighter. Worst characters to play against. Swarmed by dodge spammers and people that don't know how to even play the game properly.
@ironwarriornlm
@ironwarriornlm 3 года назад
44th
@Parpeing
@Parpeing 3 года назад
ahahah im so glad i dont play this game
@EingefrorenesEisen
@EingefrorenesEisen 3 года назад
I started playing Brawler when the Shantae costume arrived and I cannot get over how satisfying Exploding Side Kick is for me, so unfortunately none of this applies to me u w u
@haelstrom101
@haelstrom101 3 года назад
FMP buffs have been lovely, the move feels so much better now, I honestly love it's range. OOS it's more or less perfect for me now
@nickwing7894
@nickwing7894 3 года назад
I use shoput but the buffs are awesome I’ll use FMP a lot more often
@haelstrom101
@haelstrom101 3 года назад
1. Closest thing we're getting to a Kazuya video 2. Onslaught players now scare me more than the fact they used to use such a horrible move
@goon5665
@goon5665 3 года назад
Just block lol
@operator0101
@operator0101 2 года назад
@@goon5665 mii brawler is fast so they can fake out and then dash grab
@goon5665
@goon5665 2 года назад
@@operator0101 but that's not because of Side B. That is because of him running in. At that point I can respond with "Just Jump lol" which then they could counter with a nair so I respond with "just beat his buttons lol",, which then gets countered with him faking out a button Basically because he can grab doesn't mean the move is good
@operator0101
@operator0101 2 года назад
@@goon5665 ah i misinterpreted what you were saying. understandable have a nice day
@goon5665
@goon5665 2 года назад
@@operator0101 love you too
@CaptainNimrod3248
@CaptainNimrod3248 3 года назад
LMAO HE CALLED ONSLAUGHT A COMEBACK MECHANIC As someone who uses onslaught I thank you
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Honestly what else is it, it only becomes "available" once you are loosing lol
@CaptainNimrod3248
@CaptainNimrod3248 3 года назад
Its the essence of sm4sh in one move lol
@gumbothefish2267
@gumbothefish2267 3 года назад
@@CaptainNimrod3248 lol
@averagamer9222
@averagamer9222 3 года назад
Don't forget to drop a like on the HoA video for an Onslaught tutorial ;)
@Nate3417
@Nate3417 3 года назад
I love how every match against Kazuya is against the CPU because they're probably better than most people are with him so far :p
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Honestly it's more fun fighting a Kazuya CPU than anything on quickplay lol
@Golden_Hephaestus
@Golden_Hephaestus 3 года назад
I thrive whenever you upload, and I'm sure the rest of the Brawlers do too, keep it up!
@Ban-zx9se
@Ban-zx9se 3 года назад
Another patch, another day, another reason to still never use HoA. Everything is right in the world 😌
@ameliabaroni2650
@ameliabaroni2650 3 года назад
We should be scared if HoA becomes good😨
@oneasiangirl
@oneasiangirl 3 года назад
@@ameliabaroni2650 hahahahahha putting HoA and good in the same sentence that’s hilarious
@tinquinncan8262
@tinquinncan8262 3 года назад
But it's the funny move!
@kuniokun9117
@kuniokun9117 3 года назад
onslaught is cool now but suplex is still the best this post was made by the "i hate shieldies" gang
@j.prt.979
@j.prt.979 3 года назад
Just break the shields with HoA. XD /s
@goldtyphlosion7537
@goldtyphlosion7537 3 года назад
Onslaught buffs are cool and all but I still feel it’s not worth running over a command grab or recovery option
@olafgarcia6238
@olafgarcia6238 3 года назад
They buffed the Onslaught capable of killing (without the rage) by 60% at ledge, center stage and the opposite ledge, But it would be great if this Side B goes much further, being very easy to recover with an enormous horizontal travel to recovery. Also that the Head-On-Assault is capable of killing definitively (without DI) 80% in all aspects, which must eliminate its endlag at the end of the animation and be able to cancel it, have invincibility to perform in the air, give three hitboxes when the character rises in the air from the ground. In addition, the Flashing Mach Punch must remove stocks at low percentages around 60% and have a command execution to enhance the attack.
@ricardoludwig4787
@ricardoludwig4787 3 года назад
Finally my fmp agenda gets vindicated. Shot put is amazing but still having strong killpower out of shield while being able to run axe kick is amazing
@friendlynightshade5192
@friendlynightshade5192 3 года назад
My sheild breaks went from one every 15 matches to one every 5 with head on assault.... and I enjoy using it 😆 still best down special for my loadout.
@nickwing7894
@nickwing7894 3 года назад
Not competitively viable but it’s still on my move set and I will never take it out of there
@friendlynightshade5192
@friendlynightshade5192 3 года назад
@@nickwing7894 yeh and I live in New Zealand so competitive isn't really a thing haha
@nickwing7894
@nickwing7894 3 года назад
I’m Mexican brother there are not many tournaments in my area
@nolanmattox9717
@nolanmattox9717 3 года назад
might try using FMP now.. I want to say i'm still not at all really 'competitive' per se, but still have fun playing the character.
@egill1257
@egill1257 Год назад
This is the best smash channel on youtube
@nesinabox
@nesinabox 3 года назад
0:20 i thought that onslaught had new effects added to it because of kazuya's rage activating. got me real excited for a moment cuz of how cool it looked
@operator0101
@operator0101 2 года назад
thank you. my rushdown mii brawler is complete fmp onslaught helikick feint jump
@agamerslifetorture6274
@agamerslifetorture6274 3 года назад
As a Mii Brawler main myself I can confirm I will abuse these new buffs
@Zetr0
@Zetr0 3 года назад
I've been using Mii brawler... And now this. This is just great.
@deadsonic1988
@deadsonic1988 3 года назад
you are making me want to play Mii brawler
@icelingbolt
@icelingbolt 3 года назад
I wish they'd bring back custom moves for other characters Expecially mega man, his were super unique
@backfloop
@backfloop 2 года назад
They were too hard to balance and most characters had one or two that just killed at 30 lol
@ssctiyo4735
@ssctiyo4735 3 месяца назад
Onslaught has officially left the "Funny/Joke move" list and becomes a counterpick specific specials. While HoA still sucks after the buff, ESK is well, yes. And then the funny dink counter.
@omlett6482
@omlett6482 3 года назад
FMP scoops look so much more funny now
@musket001
@musket001 8 месяцев назад
Years and I still use shot put, onslaught, axe kick, and feint. To the onslaught haters, keep crying while I combo you into the up blastzone.
@loganreidy7055
@loganreidy7055 3 года назад
"Head on assault won't kill at any reasonable percent" bruh pichu can survive Mii swordfighter downsmash at ~190% from the edge of the stage I don't think a move not killing Ganon at 154% is that bad. Brawler privilege :(
@OniiChanPls
@OniiChanPls 3 года назад
Now they have to fix forward air
@MasterV26
@MasterV26 2 года назад
As someone who uses Onslaught with Mii Brawler, I have never had an opponent fall out. Maybe I’m just lucky
@nerothewateruser8030
@nerothewateruser8030 3 года назад
So now Onslaught is good and not just a move I use out of desperation? Niiice
@sharkbit3547
@sharkbit3547 3 года назад
in my opinion onslaught is not justified being used over other side burning drop kick. I really wish it was more versatile
@xanander4693
@xanander4693 3 года назад
Don’t play the miis but it’s nice that at least one of them is a good character unlike last game where they all sucked :(
@BrennanMaphet
@BrennanMaphet 3 года назад
I am going to use 2121 for brawler so i can say i am a murderer
@DeltaTried
@DeltaTried 3 года назад
Man if the worst character in the game is above C tier, then who is on C tier???
@TheSpaceOpera
@TheSpaceOpera 3 года назад
Well, the buff has made me switch out shot put for FMP, and I’ve appreciated having the more accessible kill power. Right now I’m using FMP, suplex, SAK, and Feint jump, and I’m enjoying it
@matthewbitter532
@matthewbitter532 2 года назад
Dang. Shot put tho is very valuable for me. Which made he have to use onslaught as a kill option otherwise you literally can’t kill without. Too bad it has way too much lag tho
@TheSpaceOpera
@TheSpaceOpera 2 года назад
@@matthewbitter532 yeah I since switched back to Shot Put since I wrote that LOL
@matthewbitter532
@matthewbitter532 2 года назад
@@TheSpaceOpera why?
@TheSpaceOpera
@TheSpaceOpera 2 года назад
I think the utility of having a projectile, albeit a slow one, is worth the trade off of losing FMP. Mii-B doesn’t have a lot of range and it allows you to throw out a hitbox from a distance Plus it’s nice when I manage to land a shot put against an offstage recovery (even though my accuracy still needs a lot of work)
@KrispyKorpse
@KrispyKorpse 3 года назад
69th comment ha ha aerial onslaught still sucks
@FemMushroom
@FemMushroom 3 года назад
I only play brawler because of the cheese.
@dbgr9875
@dbgr9875 3 года назад
Fortnite Flash is now 74% more viable
@protato7471
@protato7471 3 года назад
100 comments, 666 likes, 1 dislike
@RoysOurBoyy
@RoysOurBoyy Год назад
C tier < Worst Character in the game
@rgprosucctions1704
@rgprosucctions1704 3 года назад
Just a small commentary on the video. Your microphone has a really really weird artifact that makes kind of a Geiger counter noise on the left side
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Ye Idk why that happened, only noticed it after I already finished editing :/ hope it doesn't happen next time
@willycheez7218
@willycheez7218 3 года назад
I'm just glad there's someone out there who realises Mario is top tier. That dude broken
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Honestly I just threw that top10/5 together quickly without thinking too much, so I can't say for sure where I would put him. But he's definitely top tier, that's not even a question for me
@willycheez7218
@willycheez7218 3 года назад
@@Gaegel Honeslty, it's spot on, except you could maybe swap Mario out for someone like Rob or another broken character, but he'll still be S tier
@ShadowAssasinX1
@ShadowAssasinX1 3 года назад
I think if Onslaught activated on shields and/or didn't put Brawler into freefall (at least when successfully landed) it'd be viable, but still not as good as the other side specials. If it did both, I think it'd at least be better than Burning Dropkick
@suppyduccy1750
@suppyduccy1750 3 года назад
Ok but who is Croy
@moongirl-d9h
@moongirl-d9h 3 года назад
when i saw head-on assault get buffed i said "oh cool they made the move work now" but it sadly doesn't, the onslaught buff are funny tho
@ffiiggyy
@ffiiggyy 3 года назад
Sakurai just wanted to make the Heihachi spirit battle a bit harder.
@powertre1157
@powertre1157 3 года назад
Lol
@DigitalDiscDreamer
@DigitalDiscDreamer 3 года назад
I just want Fair to be useful for combos rather than an inferior back air.
@Minister_of_Magic_1997
@Minister_of_Magic_1997 3 года назад
I think these patches are cool. But not what brawler needs
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Brawler doesn't "need" anything, he's pretty good as he is. But he won't move up to top tier with these kinds of patches, that much is true
@Minister_of_Magic_1997
@Minister_of_Magic_1997 3 года назад
@@Gaegel that’s fair. I just think a few things here and there could be tweeted or fixed.
@matthewbitter532
@matthewbitter532 2 года назад
@@Minister_of_Magic_1997 like what? My only issue with the character is his range
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 3 года назад
seriously, what's the obsession with testing head-on assault at the opposite ledge? plenty of moves would struggle to KO at that area. head-on assault's strength comes in its ability to hit the other side of the opponent, causing them to be launched in the opposite direction when dealing with a very di-dependant move. and still ignoring how head-on assault can help approach an attacking enemy up-close by going above certain attacks. at least your stubbornness has somewhat ended with onslaught now that it's easier to use, that's nice
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 3 года назад
also, onslaught's definitely not the most broken side special because of the risk/reward, but that's in part because all the side specials are good, given one helps against shields and does around 20% with a somewhat easy-to-land command grab that can be used in and out of comboes and one helps recovery and has very good maneuverability with the double distance b-reverse and such. i think it was a bit of a worse choice than the other specials due to being only helpful in certain matchups and it's still maybe a bit worse but it's definitely far from bad on it's own (before it was a respectable distance from bad instead) and sacrificing using one of the other specials is respectable, even more-so against heavies.
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 года назад
@@SaphStrumm thanks for my reminder not to get heavily involved with the brawler community i needed it it's been a while
@Ashipwreckedguy
@Ashipwreckedguy 3 года назад
They took one of the characters with some of the most cheese and gave them even more cheese. Staying true to brawlers design I suppose.
@Gaegel
@Gaegel 3 года назад
Time to make f-tilt reflect like Kazuyas reflect for more *cheeeese*
@zay7seven696
@zay7seven696 3 года назад
these videos are a fancy way of saying "I main mii brawler"
@stupidw33b52
@stupidw33b52 3 года назад
what
@TheKaizoMario
@TheKaizoMario 3 года назад
Huh, looks like Imma Shantae main now.
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