CS grad here. If you truly want be great go for the degree. Even though it doesn’t guarantee a job , it increases your chances of your resume being seen. Also referring to the one girl who said she wouldn’t recommend it because “the self taught route works better”. That’s only for web development. Any other part of the CS field they want some type of stem degree, if not then have relevant experience in the industry. The entry level market is extremely flooded with cs grads looking for exp.
exactly. if you want to go into ai, robotics (i.e. the future), you'd probably be better off with a computer science degree or higher because they can demand a higher level of knowledge.
Based on what I've heard, I hope - if she feels inclined to do so - Wendy requests a pay raise based on her background, experience, and the high cost of living in CA.
73% of software engineers in the u.s. have a bachelors degree. why pay $10k+ for a bootcamp when you can take a year of your life taking these classes at least at a community college where the courses are accredited? you can get a certificate or associate degree and work on projects for your portfolio.
so, in summary, what do we get from this. The girl with much scholarship, degree in computer science, and experience started with 50k currently earning 160k. The self taught kind of a girl, the one who kept citing about all her conversations with her boss... same experience, less scholarship, is at 240k (by the way that is the compensation of a CFO-chief financial officer at the end of his carrier, of a bank of medium size here, the one just coming after the CEO, managing 40 billions every year....if this could help feeling better becouse of your low wages) and the brand new guy is at 160k. So what has the first girl missed or hasn't got along the path ? Explanation hypothesis appreciated.
Wendy is being hella underpaid, wtf. I hope she advocates for herself in the future! Not that her salary is bad, but like compared to the guy across the table, its obvious she should be making more!
Wow! What a great interview! I remember Wendy. I interviewed her for a position in Glendale years ago. Based on mine and a few others feedback she got hired 😊. It's great to see that she's doing well after all these years. Way to go, Wendy!
Excellent Contant. However, this is confirmation that we as women need to do a better job negotiating for salary. You noticed the gentleman who had the least experience was able to negotiate quite well for his salary.
especially for 8 years of experience??? she only makes $160k in a high living cost state which is cali??? thats not good at all, hope she asks for a raise
I am happy people can negotiate their pay but with any company I have ever owned, it's a take it or leave it type of deal. Within 24 hours I will be negotiating a deal with my business partner to start the largest company we have ever started and it will be the same... here is what we pay, hopefully it is enough. The billion dollar company my wife works at is the same as I run my own businesses (except if I was a billion dollar business I would be able to pay much better and would happily do it)... she just hired someone 18 months ago at $40k. She just hired someone last week at $64k. She is hiring someone else in 3 weeks for $65k... those are all take it or leave it salaries. Companies hire for their needs at the time... it's just the way it is.
Meh, I can understand if it's a company in its infancy, but if a company isn't even somewhat open to negotiation, it's a huge red flag. The prospective employee is probably dodging a bullet by not working there.
This may be a hot take, but the word “engineer” gets thrown around a lot these days, and I don’t know that it always makes sense. Or, more accurately it seems to be getting increasingly watered down. I’ve even seen it used in job descriptions such as “Project Management Engineer”, which in my opinion makes no sense. Designing and developing software obviously involves a huge engineering component and is much more than writing lines of code. It needs to be designed well, and the engineering component is probably the most important part. But, I would argue that a CS Degree doesn’t necessarily make you an engineer. If you don’t have a P. Eng degree or certification, can you really call yourself an engineer? This comment isn’t meant to be nit-picky or antagonistic, I’m genuinely curious to get other opinions on this.
Depends on the industry. The title engineer do have legal implications in specific industries (Architectural, Engineering, and Construction) but at the end of the day its just problem solving with a set of rules and tools.
Not saying this is her scenario, but you often fall into the role too. If an existing team lead switches teams or leaves the company, someone has to step up to fill their position. It’s a great opportunity to take on more responsibility and take on a mixed role of both management and IC work.
Hi! I actually joined my current company 4 years ago as a senior engineer and worked my way up into the lead role. A team was created specifically for me. 😊
Depends on complex projects hours corp culture etc. Maybe she works 5 hrs a day v one working 10 hrs under high stress????? Same position is different for every corporation
These people seem to be oblivious to recent AI developments. They are treating AI as if it is static and will not improve. Reality is, this is the worst AI will ever be, and the dumbest AI will ever be. It's only going to get smarter and faster, exponentially so, from here on out.
probably not the ones centering on ai. but not all companies will run headlong into ai, esp. older more established ones. not everybody is working at a faang or start up where they might be more likely to embrace newer tech quicker. ai will merely open up other types of jobs related to software engineering, imo.
