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How Much Do You Need To Retire | What The Experts Say 

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When it comes to retirement, most of us tend to have the same questions:
How much do I need to save each month?
What is the total amount I need to save?
How much can I take out once I retire?
Well I like to defer to the experts when it comes to answering these types of questions. The thing is though, the answer you get really depends on who you ask. For this video I look into what 5 different financial experts in the personal finance space say when it comes to the matter of retirement and answer the age old question: How much do I need to retire?
We will look at retirement advice from:
Dave Ramsey
Suze Orman
Mr. Money Mustache
David Bach (Author: Automatic Millionaire)
Robert Kiyosaki
Now each of these experts are VERY well known in their fields. And they each have their own unique view and perspective when it comes to personal finance. They have different styles of saving, investing and yes, approaching retirement.
Sure there are some over-lapping in some areas, but in some areas each of these experts have vastly different perspectives?
So who is right? Well the answer to that depends on you. It really matters who's advice really resonates more with you and you lifestyle. Each of these experts may be right at different times.
It's important to remember that personal finance is just that...personal. There is no one size-fits-all approach. What matters is what works for you. And keep in mind that these financial experts are still human. And no one is 100% right all the time. You don't have to agree with what anyone says 100%. Listen to what they have to say, then make your own decision on what is best for you.
It's your retirement. Are you a member of the FIRE community, if so your approach to retirement is going to be vastly different than someone else on a traditional retirement trajectory. Do you what to save enough for you to live simply in retirement? Or do you plan on saving more than enough in order to pass along an inheritance to your heirs? Again, those are going to be different approaches.
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@nevrock1
@nevrock1 2 года назад
It is amazing what today’s Americans need to be “happy.” Myself included. In the early 1990’s my grandparents would just sit in lawn chairs under a tree on a summer day, each holding a glass bottle of Pepsi. They were just so happy. It was their big vacation, sitting under those trees, each little breeze a gift. When my grandfather got a nice raise greasing construction equipment in Springfield, IL in the 1930’s my grandmother said, “We went bowling and had an ice cream cone every night. We thought we were rich.” I’ll never forget her saying that. Whenever a friend of mine asks how I’m doing I say, “Oh man, it’s all bowling and ice cream cones!”
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Oh my goodness! I love these stories! Thanks you so much for sharing!! 🙏this is quite possibly one of the cutest things I have ever heard
@nevrock1
@nevrock1 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney Thanks! I love telling them. My grandfather went from pushing a wheel barrel full of bricks down a ramp to bricklayers working in a basement to running around with a grease gun lubing construction equipment. It was something crazy like 33 cents at hour to $1.10 or something like that. Can you imagine? Whatever it was, it was a total game changer for them.
@bigjohnson7415
@bigjohnson7415 2 года назад
Indeed! My retirement plan? Sit on the porch and yell at the kids to stay off my lawn! Sounds like heaven to me! Seriously, each person and where they live drive "How much" you need to retire. I will get a small pension, remember those? But that combined with SS, will be more than I need to live. House paid for, cars paid for, just Property Tax, Insurance, food and Electric. Hopefully no catastrophic health issues at least for a while. Wanna retire at 65, 4 1/2 years to go.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 2 года назад
Have you seen how much it costs to go bowling lately? I remember what a bargain it was to go bowling in the 80s and 90s. Those days are gone.
@hogroamer260
@hogroamer260 2 года назад
@@norwegianblue2017 So are most bowling alleys!
@annMarien
@annMarien 10 месяцев назад
My goal has been 3million for a long time- cautiously optimistic I’ll reach it, but that’s still 20 years away and a lot can happen by then. For now, I’m on track, I currently have 6x my wages saved and I’m a young gen-Xer. One thing that helped was being auto enrolled into a 401k in my 20s. I didn’t even know I had that money until I quit. Also I have a good registered fiduciary who’s been investing majority of my capital and the returns are decent. Ever heard of ferrochrome securities? If you have good for you and if you haven't you're defo missing out Now I just need to get my husband on board!
@RandomJane104
@RandomJane104 Год назад
Good point from Suzie about having an emergency fund to draw from in retirement during bear markets. Filed in brain for future reference.
@kens805
@kens805 2 года назад
Get out of debt, STAY out of debt, learn to cook and the learn the difference between wants and needs and you'll be fine!!
@donkaster9738
@donkaster9738 2 года назад
"learn to cook" b-о-о-о-ring!!!
@gregorycarson3889
@gregorycarson3889 2 года назад
I tell this to my wife and it’s like talking to a wall
@kens805
@kens805 2 года назад
@@donkaster9738 Well Don, if you can afford to eat out every day and night or are the king of microwave food more power to you! LOL
@kens805
@kens805 2 года назад
@@gregorycarson3889 She must have a much better plan, you might ask her BEFORE you retire! LOL
@ralph6310
@ralph6310 2 года назад
@@donkaster9738 how???? Look I cook mad dishes tf you talking about????
@Pieter2360
@Pieter2360 2 года назад
Dave Ramsey is great for get-out-of-debt advise. His thoughts on investing however are very dubious.
@diannebee
@diannebee 2 года назад
I took his advice and I went from $2K in retirement to $50K with 15% of my income. Idk if it will work but it’s better than nothing lol
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 Год назад
@@diannebee But you can actually learn and know this stuff instead of hoping Dave's advice is good. Why blindly follow advice when the answers are out there. Google is your friend when you don't know something
@DavidLadd-mb4lf
@DavidLadd-mb4lf Год назад
I am a Personal (read Life) Coach and I have recommended your Channel to many of my clients since I found you in the middle of last year. I am always impressed by your discussions and I love the fact that you do such extensive research instead of just sharing opinions. Your humility combined with your transparency and your commitment to studying the topics is very much appreciated. I have studied personal finance and investing for over 40 years and I still learn something from each of your broadcasts.
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey 2 года назад
Living within your budget is a skill. If you don't have it no amount of money will ever be enough. People who have successfully been poor at some point in their life usually have the skill and can survive on what they have. Folks who have no idea what is a necessity and what is not will suffer.
@l.a.rivasesq.8841
@l.a.rivasesq.8841 2 года назад
I enjoyed this video partly because you did a good job summarizing the different approaches these well known financial advisors have for retirement. But, I think that your emphasis on the fact that every individual should tailor their approach to retirement based on their individual circumstances and goals was the best part of your video. My spouse and I recently retired at age 50. We could have retired earlier but we wanted to own our home and to take international and domestic vacations at least six weeks per year. We also knew that eating out was a necessary expense to excel in our careers. We wouldn’t have been able to accomplish our career goals by the time we were 30 or 40 years old, especially since we didn’t start our careers until age 24 and 25, respectively.
@robertcohen1888
@robertcohen1888 2 года назад
My only retirement advice is plan for early retirement. Too many long established companies are now working very hard to eliminate older workers who are nearing retirement. I got caught when I was 58 and the company I worked for which was a long-standing company making good money outsourced everyone in my area. And I was four years short of my planned departure.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
That's terrible, I'm so sorry.
@marissavanderlinden2714
@marissavanderlinden2714 2 года назад
I was able to retire early after employing the service of an investment analyst. He advised crypto investments and flipping of NFTs. I took advantage of the opportunity and I was able to pay off mortgage, debt and live on 15k a month
@hogroamer260
@hogroamer260 2 года назад
@@marissavanderlinden2714 Stop the scam! You probably have someone to put us in touch with too.
@keithmoriyama5421
@keithmoriyama5421 2 года назад
@@marissavanderlinden2714 If you have a mortgage and debt, then I don't believe you are existing on $15K
@marshallhosel1247
@marshallhosel1247 Год назад
There is definitely a target on your back at 50+. Has been for a long time. The only saving grace right now is the tight labor market but as with everything, this too shall not last unfortunately.
@vivianbrown7264
@vivianbrown7264 2 года назад
Anyone nearing retirement age will tell you the years slip by, and building a sizable nest egg becomes more difficult if you don’t start early. You'll also probably acquire other expenses you may not have yet, such as a mortgage and a family.
@ellajackson34
@ellajackson34 2 года назад
You may not earn a lot of money as you begin your career, but there’s one thing you have more of than richer, older folks: time. With time on your side, saving for retirement becomes a much more pleasant-and exciting-prospect.
@stephenwalters2605
@stephenwalters2605 2 года назад
You’re probably still paying off your student loans, but even a small amount saved for retirement can make a huge difference in your future. Reason you should work with the right team.
@georgeharold3317
@georgeharold3317 2 года назад
@@stephenwalters2605 Very true. which team are you working with ? would you mind sharing
@stephenwalters2605
@stephenwalters2605 2 года назад
look out for Tamara Diane Hagan.
@georgeharold3317
@georgeharold3317 2 года назад
@@stephenwalters2605 Found her website. thanks
@lenifromthewhitecottage2963
@lenifromthewhitecottage2963 2 года назад
Thank you, Erin, for this video! So helpful for people who are persuing FIRE, including myself. 👍
@rrdziesinski2965
@rrdziesinski2965 2 года назад
Nice comparison and summary of the five authors. Useful to have a verbal side-by-side.
@stephenwright133
@stephenwright133 2 года назад
Great job on this video. Each financial expert you listed has a different take on things and there are some kernels of truth to all of them. As you said, you have to be able to discern what fits you the most and will make you the most successful for your goals. That goal needs to be clearly understood and not just some general idea that “I’d like to retire rich.” If someone said that too me I would have a lot more questions. What does rich mean to you? What does retirement mean to you? When are you expecting to retire? Etc.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
You are so, so right. It's called personal finance for a reason! You have to make it personal to you!!
@Aboite81
@Aboite81 2 года назад
Suze Orman was my first too, watched her every Saturday also. She’s the best!
@dr_flunks
@dr_flunks 4 месяца назад
people then money then things.
@senshelive2121
@senshelive2121 2 года назад
Excellent summary of the different approaches - thank you
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thank you!
@catchingmellowmartians4909
@catchingmellowmartians4909 2 года назад
Thanks for the video, love your channel. Keep up the great 💪👷🚧
@moneybee
@moneybee 3 года назад
Erin, really insightful conversation. It's so fun filtering through all the financial Guru's and refining what works for you. There isn't a one-size-fits-all approach, and tailoring your retirement strategy really is important! Great job! 👍
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Thank you!! 🙏
@DaveM-FFB
@DaveM-FFB 2 года назад
FYI, other sources of cash flow are capital gains, dividends, small business ownership, landlording, pensions. These can be combined to meet your cash flow goal, without needing to save $1M+, or even $500K. Plus this strategy adds diversity to your income stream.
@KP-hi1om
@KP-hi1om 2 года назад
You are correct. I will have two pensions, our social security (God willing), paid off house in addition to our million dollar+ investments. We should be okay.
@howtoadultschool
@howtoadultschool 2 года назад
Great comment. Diversifying cashflow is the way to go. I think small business ownership and landlording are great options to pursue over time that give you more power over increasing your income if you want to.
@donkaster9738
@donkaster9738 2 года назад
You are absolutely right! Plus (in worst case scenario) there is a reverse mortgage.
@nancymarcoux2297
@nancymarcoux2297 2 года назад
Excellent video! Thanks
@mikemustang5488
@mikemustang5488 Год назад
Wow! Terrific video - very thought-provoking. Thank you.
@franzvanjulio5523
@franzvanjulio5523 2 года назад
I like looking at different scenarios and never planning on the best case scenario coming true. As I write this comment, the market is amid another dive and I’m not afraid of that right now while I work, but experiencing a 15%, 20% or greater dive when I retire does frighten me. My parents went through that as they retired in 2000, however, they hold more now than they did upon first retiring. I think they had effective management and also made very conservative choices while still living comfortably and simply. I think we may travel a bit more, but I know my wife and I will likely be equally comfortable living simply. I just need to not make any poor decisions that can cost us down the road. Only recently have I heard of the idea of having 1, 2, or 3 years of savings in cash upon retirement and I definitely think that’s a winning play in my book. The great option with that is if I at any point determine that is a mistake, I can always invest that somewhere. Good luck and many blessings to everyone.
@martinwaide3736
@martinwaide3736 2 года назад
Thank You for a concise, eloquent and well delivered outlook on different approaches on retirement. I really enjoyed this young lady and her explanation as I age toward my own retirement
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thank you 🙏 for watch and your kind words!!
@testtest-dk1ql
@testtest-dk1ql 2 года назад
Excellent summary…thank you for the information
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@DG-cc6tx
@DG-cc6tx 2 года назад
Wonderful and professional video. Enjoyed enriching video.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much Daniel!!! 🙏
@edwardratcliffe9177
@edwardratcliffe9177 2 года назад
In my opinion, it will be highly delusional to hold unto your money thinking there will be an apocalyptical market crash. That will never happen. If I listened to stories like that, I would not have made the enormous $800k in profits that I made from just the last quarter. Analysts will talk, stocks will rise and fall but the market will always remain a cash den for people who know where to look. my one cents though
@edwardratcliffe9177
@edwardratcliffe9177 2 года назад
@@carolinesarin9452 I invest across the top markets but not by myself anyway. I follow the trades of Josephine Guevara Laporte. She is a popular broker you might have heard of. I can correctly say she's worth her salt as a financial adviser as her diversification skills are top notch. I say because I see that in her results as my portfolio grows by average of 10 to 15% on a monthly basis
@edwardratcliffe9177
@edwardratcliffe9177 2 года назад
@Vlastimir Beršnak exactly. I've been copying her trades for close to two years now. Started with a capital of $150k. My portfolio value has since skyrocketed beyond my wildest imaginations. Plus it's relatively much easier to set up and connect my accounts than creating a financial plan and drafting investment strategies myself
@edwardratcliffe9177
@edwardratcliffe9177 2 года назад
@@carolinesarin9452 you can just look her up and contact her from her website. She's not hard to find
@edwardratcliffe9177
@edwardratcliffe9177 2 года назад
@Vlastimir Beršnak She charges me 10% on the profits she makes which is fair enough to me considering her consistency.
@fredwinslow744
@fredwinslow744 2 года назад
Everyone one following this thread. Beware. Snake oil. !!!’ Same as the call this number scams. One thing is true. Save to invest !!! Just. Not with this group
@paulo5861
@paulo5861 2 года назад
Some people never live long enough to retire. Others live long enough but, suffer from failing health. Some live long and suffer long from poverty. Life can change on a dime as the saying goes. You may be able to retire from your job but, you cannot retire from life and it's complexities. Each person lives from day to day on this planet and is challenged to do the best they can one day at a time. The past has already happened. The present is a gift and the future is unknown. Ramsey"s 12% mutual fund return is unrealistic especially given fund management fees. Rich man skills to take those risks are not built into people. FIRE 's can be extinguished. The best laid plans do not guaranty success. Thanks for the comparisons.
@twinchartersllc1797
@twinchartersllc1797 2 года назад
Nicely done and concise on each of the 5!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! 😊
@MrPizzaman09
@MrPizzaman09 2 года назад
I liked your advice at the end the most.
@bm3830
@bm3830 2 года назад
Really enjoyed the video, especially how you brought together the advice of the experts, and then boiled each one down and commented. Keep up the good work!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much! I really found it interesting that there is such different perspectives.
@xaldath4265
@xaldath4265 3 года назад
Thank you for this objective and critical view. Far too many videos or people go all in on one style or one person's *broad* advice and neglect the shortcomings of the structure. Every one of these advisors has merit and like you said, "None of them are 100% right and you have to look at it in terms of your own lifestyle". I look forward to the next video.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Thanks so much for your kind words!! I think the best style is the one that works best for you 😊
@garyxyz4400
@garyxyz4400 2 года назад
So very true. Starting sooner than later is the key.
@dj8052
@dj8052 2 года назад
This video was very useful. First time watching but will watch again for video like this one.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
I'm so glad to hear that!!! Hope you subscribed 😊🙏
@joethecomputerguy1
@joethecomputerguy1 Год назад
Best advice right there, do what's right for you.
@charlesprice8399
@charlesprice8399 2 года назад
Great breakdown on the differences between the money guru's strategies!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks!
@HarshColby
@HarshColby 2 года назад
Cool summary. Advisors rarely explain that everyone is different, and it's important to understand that. Both of your 4% Rule explanations did not include the "automatic increase for inflation" part of Bengen's original rule. I think this is great advice. And, I've never understood how Ramsey thinks 12% gains are a reasonable expectation for retirement. That's reckless.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Great point!
@stewartkaplan3100
@stewartkaplan3100 2 года назад
4% rule is only 4% of beginning portfolio balance, then you adjust that amount for inflation, then you continue to adjust each year thereafter. I.e, It is NOT 4% if your portfolio balance each year. If you took any fixed percent of your portfolio “each year,” you’d never run out of money. Problem is, your spending would fluctuate with your returns.
@ahwhite1398
@ahwhite1398 2 года назад
Ramsey's likes to play the game where he conflated "millionaire" with "independently wealthy." And, he seems to fixate on showing his listeners a path to becoming a "millionaire," and thus a status that will make them comfortable beyond their dreams (I haven't sen him state this, mind you, but he sure seems willing to let people believe this). Without his liberal return promises, one million gets harder to see mathematically for most people. But, more importantly, if he were to tell people that the aspirational goal of being a "millionaire," meant budgeting yourself to 40k or less per year, the whole facade would crumble away.
@davidless57
@davidless57 Год назад
@@stewartkaplan3100 don’t forget, once you take SS the 4% rule can drop down a bit, that is if you put SS off a bit
@lordabhikingfisher8087
@lordabhikingfisher8087 2 года назад
Great Presentation. Very good summary..
@supersubra421
@supersubra421 Год назад
Nicely done Erin.
@RetireCertain
@RetireCertain 2 года назад
Wow. Dave forgot that in the decade from 2000 to 2010 S&P 500 had average annualized negative return of almost 1% for the decade if we include dividends. Great video. Thanks Erin.
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 Год назад
Dave misses a lot of things
@jimhandler1129
@jimhandler1129 2 года назад
I agree with Dave Ramsey on being debt free. But agree with Suze on the withdrawl rate of 4% and having a bridge account of 2 to 3 years so the market can recover when you can't safely withdraw 4%. Health insurance is a big concern and a big expense that has a major factor on when to retire.
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 Год назад
4% is not Suzie that is the Trinity study
@nobeliefisok9174
@nobeliefisok9174 Год назад
Debt free is great advice for many people, and terrible advice for me. I use the debt on my house to have saved and invested a lot more a lot earlier than I would if putting that money towards not having a loan. The time-value of money invested early has built my portfolio. Adding huge payments starting a few years ago (if my house was paid off early) would never catch up to where I am, not remotely close either. The house debt I did not pay off early allowed me to invest max 401k contributions early in my career, leading to a much higher total invested than had I put all that 401k investment into paying off my mortgage quickly. But... I think most people are going to save investable money poorly. Until they can fix that, they wont benefit from carry a low interest rate home loan. Where within 5 years of starting my career I had bumped up my 401k contributions until I was at the max. Also, I refinanced my house (no disbursement, straight refi only) a few times over the years as interest rates lowered. I have a 30-yr 2.625% loan currently, and can still benefit from itemized deductions, so save another 22-24% off that via taxes (approx 2.07% effective rate). I only have one year out of 25 that my investments in 401k went up less than that from gains alone (not new money incoming), and that was 2008. Debt free is reasonable advice for people who wont save the money, but would have cost me many years of my life having to work to catchup to where I am now.
@marshallhosel1247
@marshallhosel1247 Год назад
I am a fan of the bucket approach. 1 year checking account. 1-2 years in short term Treasuries Bills. The rest invested in low cost index funds. I personally like VOO, VTV, VYM, VBR, BND - 20% each.
@jimhandler1129
@jimhandler1129 Год назад
@@marshallhosel1247 Nice, I like your mix. I am also investing with Vanguard & Fidelity, mostly all low cost index funds I am maxing all retirement funds, with 1 year emergency fund. I have a few more years until retirement. Are you currently retired?
@marshallhosel1247
@marshallhosel1247 Год назад
Thanks for the video.
@evadeanu1
@evadeanu1 2 года назад
Great compilation of various ideas!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@blackdynamite4174
@blackdynamite4174 2 года назад
David Bach concept fits mine, should relate to everyone . This was a Great video, well done
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much!!
@Nivekrst
@Nivekrst 2 года назад
Well done! I almost left early, when you mentioned the first "expert" suggesting one can expect a 12% return. I stayed once I realized you knew that was very aggressive. It's just about an impossible return long term. I believe a healthy mix of the other's advice is best. Kiyosaki is mostly correct, except he omits that one does need to initially save to get started in accumulating assets. You need to own that first home, and then save up to buy a second so you can then rent out your first. You can attempt to incur debt to do this, but one harsh downturn and you can get into big trouble quickly. Cheers.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks for sticking around!
@elisalyles1466
@elisalyles1466 9 месяцев назад
I've been long term investor in rental real estate not too concerned about market fluctuations just caring about rents /,expenses. The pandemic crushed cash flow and I want more liquidity. Huge step after 37 years of re investing. Not sure about transition
@gregkloe
@gregkloe 2 года назад
This is depressing to me. I know I'm above the average as far as my retirement fund goes, but nowhere near where these guys say I need to be in order to retire. I may as well forget about ever retiring. Your last statement was the only glimmer of hope. Thanks for that.
@oechsli
@oechsli 2 года назад
Great video - love the compilation of advice.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks!! 😊
@usumoio
@usumoio 2 года назад
Personally I find Robert Kiyosaki very abrasive and difficult to listen to, but I loved your distillation of his financial approach. I would gladly listen to your distillation of anything he has to say. I found your explanation of his approach clear and reasonable, while I find his attempt to explain his approach disorderly and insult laden. Thanks for the great content.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks for listening! 🙏😊
@chrisreitter7672
@chrisreitter7672 2 года назад
I appreciate this video. Seeing all the approaches side-by-side was valuable.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks!! I'm thinking of doing another video of expert opinions - just a different topic, and a different set of experts! Let me know if you'd be interested!
@DaveM-FFB
@DaveM-FFB 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney I'd be interested. But your offer was directed to Chris.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
@@DaveM-FFB the offer is good for all! 😂
@ZKarim-kk4ku
@ZKarim-kk4ku 2 года назад
Thank you for the great video. I am on a regular basis calculating how much I will need! So this is v helpful!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Woo-Hoo! This makes me so happy! Thanks for watching! 😊
@kimberly9276
@kimberly9276 2 года назад
I really enjoyed that video !!!!!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
That makes me so happy! 😊
@cybercab
@cybercab Год назад
If you pull 8% a year you are definitely going run out of money. I think 3-4% withdrawal rate.
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 Год назад
Not definitely but closer to 50/50 chance. All depends on what the market does and of course what you do. But definitely too risky
@gullrockgeorge9057
@gullrockgeorge9057 2 года назад
None of these people can really tell you how much you need because that's personal. There are other factors. Do you have other income like a pension or from rental property. Are you debt free and living a modest lifestyle that works for you. Most of them though do have a reasonable approach in terms of saving around 10% and withdrawing something like a 4% of your portfolio.
@bill7481
@bill7481 2 года назад
Great work! Thank you! I love your personal advice, by the way. A friend of mine has said that to me for a long time. Unfortunately, I found out the hard way that there is such a thing as delaying your gratifications for too long. Now I plan for the future, but I do enjoy the present.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Sounds like you have a good friend! But sometimes we have to learn things for ourselves in our own time. I’m so happy to hear you are saving for your future 😊
@bill7481
@bill7481 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney Absolutely!
@carlc1864
@carlc1864 2 года назад
I liked the compare and contrast of the different financial experts you presented. Since you have a passion in this area may I suggest reading The Wealthy Barber. You can find principals that each of these experts use in that book.
@julietravels6400
@julietravels6400 3 года назад
Great video, Erin. I am going to put David Bach's book on my reading list and share the video with my sister.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
He's got a few, I think his best is the Automatic Millionaire. 😊 Thanks 🙏 for the kind words and sharing!!!!!
@julietravels6400
@julietravels6400 3 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney I was going to start with that, but I found "Smart Women Finish Rich" as a kindle library loan and needed something to read on my flight in a couple of days. Do you know if Suze Orman changed her recommended SWR recently? I read her book "The Ultimate Retirement Guide for 50+: Winning Strategies to Make Your Money Last a Lifetime" (copyright 2020, but went to press in late 2019 just after SECURE Act was passed), and she was recommending a 3% withdrawal rate along with two - three years cash and an emergency fund. She also was encouraging people to work until age 70 in some capacity and not take Social Security until then. I get being conservative with planning and certainly don't want to run out of money, but I value having time/freedom in my 50s and 60s too.
@howtoadultschool
@howtoadultschool 2 года назад
I'm a big fan of David Bach's books, Smart Women Finish Rich is my favourite so far. Plus I'm in canada and I love that there's canadian editions for all of his books.
@Juliana-st6cw
@Juliana-st6cw 2 года назад
Great content Erin ❤️I'm retired with almost 10million dollar networth, a house and fleet of cars all in my name. I've loved the FIRE movement alot but the FI part is the most important of it all, gaining financial independence is greater than retiring early... I'm so happy I made wise decisions about my finances which got me to this stage, I did it! You can do it too!! Good luck
@sarahpatterson390
@sarahpatterson390 2 года назад
Great one! You must be an inspiration to most women out there.. I'm planning on retirring by next year
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
DANG GIRL!! 👏👏👏 A HUGE congrats to all that you have accomplished!! I love seeing strong women. What a great example you set for others, especially women.
@Juliana-st6cw
@Juliana-st6cw 2 года назад
@@sarahpatterson390 Good luck 💖
@Juliana-st6cw
@Juliana-st6cw 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney thank you!! I'm a huge fan tho... I know you are also an inspiration to most women too, I couldn't have achieved all these if I hadn't started investin g earlier and making plans for my retirement.. God bless you ❤️
@donaldbateman3777
@donaldbateman3777 2 года назад
I have great respect for women majorly because I was raised by one and they have played huge roles in my life. I celebrate all women reading this and I want you to know that your gender cannot limit you from achieving whatever you desire.
@RubbingPotatoes
@RubbingPotatoes 2 года назад
At David ramseys 8% withdrawal rate, assuming inflation is 3.5% average, 30 year retirement, your portfolio would fail to last in more than half the cases based on the historical s&p returns.
@mindfulmoneyllc1627
@mindfulmoneyllc1627 2 года назад
Nice breakdown. Thank you!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@donaldkrayburn7477
@donaldkrayburn7477 2 года назад
Retired with a 7 figure portfolio and Receiving about $53k in dividends. I have been in the Stock market about 20 years. Am I worried? Am I selling? Absolutely not. I have purchased growth stocks too a little at a time over the past few weeks. I am going to sit back and observe how this all plays out, adding more at a time. my investment strategy actually calms me down. Eye on the prize, stay the course!
@annalisajoy9755
@annalisajoy9755 2 года назад
Dividend investing is great, just be patient. I went from making enough passively to pay for my netflix and hulu to now making enough to cover half of my mortgage. Not commenting this to brag, just to give hope to anyone who is discouraged by tiny gains in the beginning.
@andyholloman9797
@andyholloman9797 2 года назад
what route did you take? how can one invest more efficiently? help. sounds like you got something going for you. I am new at investing and really want in.
@zacharyblount5282
@zacharyblount5282 2 года назад
Recently I got into the financial niche, and I’ve taken a deep dive into investing, particularly dividend growth investment as it interests me. hoping to get to your level someday.
@Gbdnd
@Gbdnd 2 года назад
Love it when i see my fellow individuals excelling. I'm also on my way to the millionaire's club from investing in stocks. It's exciting watching your wealth grow. Good luck to us both.
@user-Aa310
@user-Aa310 2 года назад
Good for you. I'm not retired yet, but am sticking with my long-term buy and hold strategy. Will be in 7 figure territory by the time I hang up my boots.
@ChapstickChunx
@ChapstickChunx 3 года назад
This was such a cool video. I really enjoyed the comparisons! 12% annual return and 8% withdrawal though? Really, Dave?! I’m with you, Erin-10% annual return and 4% withdrawal rate. I would be way too scared to withdraw more!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Thanks so much!! 🙏 Taking out 8% would scare me 😳 so much!!
@egs2169
@egs2169 2 года назад
First timer. Good work!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@PJ-mb3ue
@PJ-mb3ue Год назад
Thanks!
@KP-hi1om
@KP-hi1om 2 года назад
I'm with Ramsey as far as getting out of debt and staying out of debt. The only issue I have is rushing to pay off the house. My interest rate is 2.25%. We invest the extra $700 we were going to use to pay off the house early.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
That sounds like a fantastic plan! 👏👏👏
@jmminmn
@jmminmn 2 года назад
Agree…he seems not to factor the opportunity cost of not investing. I ran the numbers to see what the difference would have been…it was a difference of about $50k. That’s a lot to leave on the table.
@KP-hi1om
@KP-hi1om 2 года назад
@@jmminmn I came up with about the same amount of money. If we invest $700 for ten years we will be able to pay off the house and buy a $40k new to us car.
@jdek88
@jdek88 2 года назад
Why pay off your house early? Let the fed/government destroy your debt for you.
@Grassology-vs1hn
@Grassology-vs1hn 2 года назад
@@jdek88 , I paid off our house in 2011 and I can invest what I was paying on the mortgage
@CrystalConsults
@CrystalConsults 2 года назад
What a valuable study! Thanks so much for taking the time to show us 5 interesting and diverse approaches. 👍
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@marissavanderlinden2714
@marissavanderlinden2714 2 года назад
My financial advisor was able to build a portfolio which helped pay off my mortgage, cleared my debt and gave me 15k monthly income through crypto investments and flipping of NFTs.
@emilytemple3609
@emilytemple3609 2 года назад
Wonderful video Erin ⭐️
@clartro
@clartro 2 года назад
Great breakdown
@markvergon48
@markvergon48 2 года назад
Very interesting content. I plan to retire by 55 with $3million in savings and a few passive income sources, I'm currently 40 and although I started investing this year I have high hopes for the future. Hopefully the market doesn't undergo another crazy crash.
@jorja1019
@jorja1019 2 года назад
there will aways be market crashes, you just have to stay prepared for it.
@Sergey-mi8xi
@Sergey-mi8xi 2 года назад
@@theonlydonyon6798 Having an investment coach actually does make a difference, investing becomes pretty much simple and less complicated, and it really ups your profit too. I made about $250,000 within 6months I hired an investment coach.
@toddspangler6669
@toddspangler6669 2 года назад
Be very cautious about basing your retirement on a lump sum especially if you're thinking 10-20 years from now. You should focus on creating passive or semi-passive income streams. Otherwise, you're forced to include your estimated year of death into your equation.
@mikeflair6800
@mikeflair6800 2 года назад
Good discussion Erin, yes what is reasonable withdraw rate? Mine is 5%, which is proving too low, and my balance is growing nicely, so far 10 years into retirement...my heirs will be happy haha!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Even the authors of the Trinity Study, which put the 4% Rule in the world came out last year and said that people could bump up to a 5% withdrawal rate! I think reasonable depends on how much you have saved up and how long you plan on being retired. I recommend talking with a good CFP and asking for their opinion on your personal situation. Also remember the stock market has done phenomenally well the past ten years! 😂
@hleeyang3825
@hleeyang3825 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney To add on to this, the author of the trinity study conducted the study under a worst case scenario situation, so 4% should be okay for even if the market doesn’t do well.
@loganmorgan3546
@loganmorgan3546 2 года назад
Nice comparison of different approaches of retirement.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Glad you liked it! 😊
@peterkalian9989
@peterkalian9989 2 года назад
Well done! Very good video!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thank you so much!! 😊
@cdlund2840
@cdlund2840 2 года назад
I retired at 62 with 50K in the bank. Been very happy the whole time. We still put money in savings every month. The secret is being debt free when you retire not how much you have in the bank. Social security, 2 pensions are more than we need and we still travel around the country to see kids and grand kids. Don't get hung up on "must have" cash. You only live once and my advice is retire ASAP.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Congrats!! 👏👏👏
@joycewright5386
@joycewright5386 2 года назад
Unfortunately not everyone has a pension.
@cdlund2840
@cdlund2840 2 года назад
@@snatchinitback4635 Yeah, I would never rely on SS alone.
@1Benjamin1000
@1Benjamin1000 2 года назад
Um no, in your case the "secret" is your pensions (which are probably worth millions when you consider that those of us who don't have them would need to pay millions to an insurance company for an annuity). Congratulations on your retirement, but don't encourage people who have minimal savings (and no pension) to retire early.
@donaldbateman3777
@donaldbateman3777 2 года назад
Snatchin IT Back and lnvestment too
@adam872
@adam872 2 года назад
Great video. The first book I read on investing and personal finance was Rich Dad, Poor Dad. I don't agree with everything Kiyosaki says, but there is definitely great value in his advice. What's worked for me is a combination of his approach about building assets that can pay for things and Orman's approach spending less than you earn and investing the difference. Add in Ramsey's views on debt and it's been a winner. Adding these approaches together means that in my 40's I've got no real financial worries and there is a pretty good chance I'll be able to retire well before 60 or at least have the option to slow down in my 50's. That was my goal and it's how things have mostly worked out so far.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Sounds like you have done a great job with your finances!
@garyxyz4400
@garyxyz4400 2 года назад
I agree with her response and am there myself but what about healthcare? That's my struggle as I wait for Medicare.
@adam872
@adam872 2 года назад
@@garyxyz4400 I don't live in the US, so health care is a different situation for me.
@garyxyz4400
@garyxyz4400 2 года назад
@@adam872 I also watch videos about retiring in Philippines but our family is here. Thanks for your response.
@shobavakkalagadda9831
@shobavakkalagadda9831 Год назад
Agree. It's a combination of these ideas. Keeping low to no debt. Spending less to build the savings to invest and then investing into various assets to create a cash flow like a small business, rental properties, or dividend growing stocks and even growth stocks.
@dstevens518
@dstevens518 Год назад
It's really such a personal thing, some folks want plenty of security and don't mind slaving to get there with a huge nest egg, others see it as giving up quality of life and time to save more than you'll likely need. I think Kiyosaki's take is great IF you don't mind the hassle of managing the risk those investments entail. If you'd rather not, then do the safe but sure thing instead, live beneath your means, diversify your investments (real estate, index funds), and you'll get there when you get there. Balance isn't just about work/life, it's also about risk tolerance/peace of mind... Enjoy life in YOUR style, don't mind what the other guy's doing. BTW, you are a breath of fresh air in this financial advice game, down to earth, clear as day, AND well informed. Keep it up!
@mattpahuta
@mattpahuta 2 года назад
Nice video! Thank you!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@catharinemarlia6728
@catharinemarlia6728 2 года назад
saving with out investing, will be very difficult to maintain the same lifestyle in retirement that you did in your working years which you may find challenging .The best way to build wealth is to stay invested, but I know that can be challenging as well too, this is why I recommend *Romero* *pieto* an expert in this field.
@clarkraw2196
@clarkraw2196 2 года назад
Nice video Erin.
@mardywilly6135
@mardywilly6135 2 года назад
His trade execution quality and profiting is well structured with great financial features.
@feliciabenard6012
@feliciabenard6012 2 года назад
Love his trading system , he ensure safe investment and better risk management.
@anastaciajames6984
@anastaciajames6984 2 года назад
When it comes to consistent profiting I only know of one man called Romero pieto ever since I started investing with him he has indeed been a great blessing to me and my family.
@jessiewillians4123
@jessiewillians4123 2 года назад
Who is Romero pieto ?
@robertpearson8798
@robertpearson8798 2 года назад
Listening to the *Experts* is great advice but some of the most overlooked experts are the people who are actually retired and have been for a while. Don't hesitate to have discussions with those retired people who have similar lifestyles and economic situations to yourself and what you hope to have in retirement. They can give you lots of good advise based on experience, both of things to do and things not to do. Observing people who are successfully retired can take away lot of retirement anxiety.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
So true!
@DrSchor
@DrSchor Год назад
advice
@annetteseiler4110
@annetteseiler4110 Год назад
Very good, thank you
@lancethompson6839
@lancethompson6839 Год назад
Nice review, well presented.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney Год назад
Thank you kindly!
@Columbus1152
@Columbus1152 3 года назад
Sorry Erin, but most of these "experts" didn't make their wealth following their own advice, they have built their wealth telling other people how to follow their advice. The value of their advice would be the result of an unbiased assessment of those who followed it vs outcome, to date I'm not aware of any such assessment. We followed Dave Ramsey for several years, and he inspired us to address our debt and we cleaned it up which set us a successful path to a comfortable retirement, but by no means did we follow his program implicitly. Ultimately you're on your own, research advice, take the good parts and put your plan together.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Exactly. Personal finance is personal. All of these advisors give general advice. It is not tailored toward any one person. I even say in the video that you show take whatever bits of advice you feel apply to you and your lifestyle and forget the rest. What matters is that you are on a path that works for you.
@SuzanneU
@SuzanneU 2 года назад
Have you read Your Money or Your Life by Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin? They reached their goal through frugality and investing in income-producing vehicles like Treasury bonds. Joe died young, but he never took a speaker or consultant fee. Vicki still never takes a speaker fee or runs a paid class.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 2 года назад
The ironic thing about Dave Ramsey is that, while he's such a big advocate of taking on 2 or even 3 jobs to pay off your debt, he declared bankruptcy!!! I will agree, I've gotten very aggressive with paying off my debt and I'm down to 1 credit card, and he's absolutely right that carrying debt is stupid. He just didn't follow his own advice!
@bmorris6156
@bmorris6156 2 года назад
Great recap! I used to watch Suzy every Saturday night as well :)
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
I miss her show so much! Can I afford it was the BEST section ever!! 😭😭😭
@bmorris6156
@bmorris6156 2 года назад
Agreed!! Suze taught me to Max out my Roth 401k, never take a loan against it and become my own Financial advisor. The gift of financial literacy is the best thing you can ever do for yourself! #FIRE AT48!!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
@@bmorris6156 Wow!! Congrats!!!! 👏👏👏
@moneytalkswithjonathanthom4150
@moneytalkswithjonathanthom4150 2 года назад
Awesome video showing the constant. With the subtle undertone that even with solid advice we all still have to use it to fit our personal situation
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@Loralit4
@Loralit4 3 года назад
Thank you for this excellent review 💴
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!!
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 2 года назад
The number one factor is your lifestyle, if you don't spend much you don't need much
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
So true!
@MrSteeDoo
@MrSteeDoo 2 года назад
It seems that the financial experts think that most people will travel the world in retirement.
@DaveM-FFB
@DaveM-FFB 2 года назад
It always comes down to cash flow (which is needed to pay expenses). Savings, investments, etc, generate cash flow. So that's usually the focus. However the focus should really be on cash flow. And it can come from a variety of sources other than your retirement account.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Very true, and well said 👏👏
@thatguyjoe007
@thatguyjoe007 2 года назад
$625,000 divided by $50k per year, only gives you 12.5 years of retirement. am I missing something?
@ttperez924
@ttperez924 2 года назад
Great ideas, different perspectives! Great video, Erin. I agree with you, save as much as you can but don't forget to enjoy life, as well.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Absolutely! 😊
@frankish5314
@frankish5314 2 года назад
You're right DR is way too aggressive on expected returns. The Trinity study came out with a max of 4% withdrawal rate. Personally (because I retired at 52) I work on a max of 3% and last year I pulled out 0.69% due to the fact I still have two rentals, but I also have a pension so this 0.69% may end up at zero%. Oh yeah my savings rate was bigger than 50% during my career.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Nice! You sound like you are very well prepared for retirement! 👏👏👏 My goal is to retire sometime around the age of 50
@frankish5314
@frankish5314 2 года назад
@@ErinTalksMoney Good for you. Depending on the market and your savings rate you might be able to beat that. I started saving by paying my mortgage down at age 36. After 6 years and 3 months that was paid off. Another 10 years and I was FI.. So that brought me to 52. I wish I had started when I was 20..:)
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 2 года назад
I’m a no debt person. My entire life. I’ve never understood why anybody would pay all the extra interest.
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 Год назад
Because people want stuff now,it becomes addictive to them. Spending and spending on credit can become addictive
@kellycelmira
@kellycelmira 2 года назад
I'm less than a month away from 30 and my independent work life has just started, I've worked since I was 22 (very old compared to many other people) but I was working for my dad (a very secure position), without any financial literacy, so my parents were paying for my career after I went through some studying problems caused by me, and later the late consequences of those bad desitions, I was also paying as much as I could of my university with the work I had because of the guilt I was feeling, so I was saving almost nothing, and just now I'm paying for my things and making strong financial desitions, and now I have a way better paying job, and thankfully I have no student loan, but definitely my life is just starting hahaha. Loved the video and some very good advice that I'm going to apply.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
I love that you are taking control of your financial life! That’s incredible! 👏👏👏
@MrOfficer235
@MrOfficer235 2 года назад
Middle class Americans. Make it a priority to max out your traditional 401k @ $19,500 & a personal Roth IRA @ $6,000. You need both to be diversified for pre/post tax accounts. If you do that for the standard 25-30 year career you will retire with dignity.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
👏👏👏
@NathanHedglin
@NathanHedglin 2 года назад
“Diversified” should NOT mean random, that does no good. I’d actually plan how much money you can withdraw from pre-tax to fill the lower brackets in retirement. Likely maxing 401k will result in too much in pre-tax which can mean higher taxes, RMDs etc.
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 2 года назад
Most people need nowhere near that much money nor they can afford it. A married middle class family making $100,000 should not save almost $40,000 in 401k plans and another 12,000 in IRAs. That's ridiculous
@snterp
@snterp 2 года назад
@@johngill2853 Why not?
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 2 года назад
@@snterp because you have to live today and save for retirement. Saving 52% of your income for retirement is an undue hardship on most people
@July.4.1776
@July.4.1776 2 года назад
Clark Howard🤔
@martypoll
@martypoll Год назад
I mixed and matched. I paid myself first starting at an early age. I kept my debt low only going into debt for a modest house and modest cars. No credit card debt. I lived below my means and enjoyed that life. I kept a 6 month emergency fund. However, I didn’t have children and was lucky enough to not have any financial setbacks in my life and I was never unemployed. Two other factors allowed me to retire at 55 years old - a professional engineering career with a generous pension (plus Social Security now) and I moved to Thailand, a low cost of living country.
@jayholiday256
@jayholiday256 2 года назад
Good stuff Erin! Beware of celebrity experts. Ramsey really isn’t a retirement planner. Suze advocates bucket system which is wise.
@goodies8651
@goodies8651 3 года назад
Great video Erin!! So...if I could somehow make $10Mil in my 20's, I would make Suze Orman sooo proud! lol
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 3 года назад
Haha!! Same here!!
@yepyep6916
@yepyep6916 2 года назад
Ppl many not earn that much in a lifetime
@duneme
@duneme 2 года назад
Don’t forget, TAXES!!! When you calculate your overall savings!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Taxes are so important!!
@johngill2853
@johngill2853 2 года назад
The time to think about taxes is before you make the investment. Tax planning starts at the beginning of your investing timeline.
@alananthony1960
@alananthony1960 2 года назад
Thank you, Erin.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! 😊
@tonyflaminio2719
@tonyflaminio2719 2 года назад
Erin, first time listener…you are the BOMB! Great podcast!
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Thanks!! I'm so glad it was an interesting one!
@larriveeman
@larriveeman 2 года назад
it all depends on how much debt you have and how much you need to live on, do you have a pension? How much Social security will you get?
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
absolutely 💯 percent!! 🙌
@stephansmith3570
@stephansmith3570 2 года назад
An old guy once said "earn as much as you can, save as much as you can, give as much as you can."
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
I like that!
@PH-dm8ew
@PH-dm8ew 2 года назад
Suzie Orman was the first investment "person" i ever listened to. Love her style. i have listened to just about every person in that trade at this point. I think you are better than all of them FYI.
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Hey Paul! I grew up watching her all the time! I loved her show! Thanks for watching, and that you so much for the kind words! 😊
@susanalexander4683
@susanalexander4683 2 года назад
Very well done ✅
@ErinTalksMoney
@ErinTalksMoney 2 года назад
Many thanks 🙏
@randaray24
@randaray24 2 года назад
Kind of shocked at the 17 yr 50% thing. Kinda gives a person hope
@marissavanderlinden2714
@marissavanderlinden2714 2 года назад
My financial advisor was able to build a portfolio which helped pay off my mortgage, cleared my debt and gave me 15k monthly income through crypto investments and flipping of NFTs. Retirement came early with no regrets, I always recommend him without reservation.
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