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Academic medicine vs Private Practice medicine. The major decision a Doctor must make before getting their first job in the real world! Both academia and private practice each have their own perks, and it is ultimately up to you to decide which area of practice fits you the best! I try to give my best breakdown of the differences between Academic practice and Private practice jobs as a physician!
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@sharshal465 3 года назад

1st year osteopathic Med student here and your videos are so inspiring! Thank you Dr. Cellini

@DrCellini 3 года назад

🙌🏼🙌🏼

@THEGUZ22 3 года назад

Great video! Incoming medical student here and would love to see how you tackled finances, specifically investing, during med school and residency. Finances are a topic not spoken nor talked about enough in medicine and I'm sure we would all love to see a video about that in the future!

@TheOneZepphyr 3 года назад

Dude, you are hands down one of the best medical vloggers out there. Keep up the great content, every video gets better!

@Frucsek 3 года назад

Dr Cellini You are one of the reasons I am going to medical school next year and inspired to become a radiologist!You are super cool!😊

@DVMCellini 3 года назад

don't meet your heroes

@Loydwrld0 3 года назад

@@DVMCellini lol 😭

@samlukeburton1806 3 года назад

I'm studying to become a PA here in Scotland. Love the videos!!

@BlackJac021 3 года назад

Hi Dr. Cellini, great video as usual! I thought it was really relevant and insightful particularly for those of us going through the match right now as this info can influence your ROL.

@travtrav20 2 года назад

Thanks for being open and sharing some what MD’s make and what they to go through. If you don’t Munda me asking! Congrats on your success and keep it up! This takes a special person.

@CassandraBarthelemy 3 года назад

Love that he calls out those who watch but haven’t subscribed 😅 that was me for months but the guilt was too much 😂 subbed!

@chrishernandez295 3 года назад

Best radiologist out there in NYC Keep up the good work and stay safe out there 🔥🔥🙌

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Thx!

@mariogunner2641 3 года назад

Pro trick: watch movies at kaldrostream. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.

@benprince1212 3 года назад

@Mario Gunner Yea, have been using kaldrostream for since december myself =)

@aqulisbellphd5219 3 года назад

Congratulations Brother for completing your fellowship..Awesome!!

@joshmcgoo 3 года назад

My thing about academics is how much you do that you DON'T get paid for, and as a med student on clinical rotations now I don't want to explain ventilator settings to some dumb student like me every other week for my entire career

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Lol

@joshwilliams6317 3 года назад

You don’t become a physician for the money. You should love what you do and have a passion for it regardless of the pay. Josh (Med Student)

@joshwilliams6317 3 года назад

@Bryan W I don’t find it irrational at all. I chose my path to medicine strictly on helping Sick individuals and not for a paycheck. I’m not going to mention what I think I’m worth based on a simple comment. Still, the reality is that I’m blessed to have the opportunity to learn and hopefully someday spread my knowledge to others that comes after me. It is not always about politics, just my unbiased opinion.

@joshmcgoo 3 года назад

@@joshwilliams6317 Hey fellow Josh and med student! lol I'm not going into mediine for the money - there are plenty of careers that don't cost 300 grand and all of my twenties. What I AM saying is if I have to choose between a 40 hour per week community gig or an academic gig that pays LESS for MORE work, I'd choose community. I'm married and have a kid on the way - the appeal of teaching isn't worth the other sacrifices, you know?

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

@@joshmcgoobut academics doesn’t pay less if anything those in private practice get paid less with increasing overhead and decreasing reimbursement rates from Medicare and Medicaid and other insurance companies. Plus I heard not all positions at prestigious hospitals are academic positions and many of them are actually clinical positions that have a lot of flexibility. Also lots of potential for incentive bonus pay and you get raises annually at those prestigious hospitals. Also from what I’m aware of you can advance within your department in those hospitals and get into higher positions allowing for more growth.

@TWEEK0423 3 года назад

I'm a first year M1 student and have always been interested in private practice. This video solidified that interest. Thanks.

@oxen84 3 года назад

Love your social media content, so interesting to listen and see your posts/videos! /A radiology resident

@rachelt2482 3 года назад

Thank you Dr Cellini, very interesting!

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Thx

@summerdow7149 3 года назад

I am not sure if you have already made a video on this but if not, it would be a really cool video to see your plan for paying down your med school loans when you become an attending! If you have a certain number of years you want to ideally have your loans paid off, idk I feel as though pre meds and med students don't get a lot of education on this topic and I think it would be really helpful to learn about!

@aimeevargas4016 3 года назад

I’m an SLP graduate student; I completely relate with the weight that comes with deciding where to settle down and what type of job is best for me.

@connorbrittain939 3 года назад

It's definitely important to have a liquor cabinet behind the work station.

@Sanyu-Tumusiime 3 года назад

You inspired me to choose radiology. However as an international in the US, we don’t get the loan forgiveness.... privatize practice is better for us because it allows us to pay loans off quicker

@levibeam100 3 года назад

If you go the private practice route, are you going to do Diagnostic and Interventional Radiology cases? Or will you still be doing IR all of the time?

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Both!

@richarddurkee4617 3 года назад

just noticed the new video thumbnails. They’re looking clean.

@michelegeiger520 3 года назад

Come to the Lehigh Valley in PA! We have two big teaching hospital organizations in the area (St. Luke’s University Health Network and Lehigh Valley Health Network) and are less than two hours from NYC.

@aaronfeyh4502 3 года назад

You are amazing! Fingers crossed I get accepted into RA school.

@MSWMW 2 года назад

I've been an academic anesthesiologist/intensivist for 5 years now and I really wish someone had come up with this list for me PRIOR to me deciding on what type of job I wanted. I think I still would have chose the academic path anyway but man am I feeling the politics of Academic more and more as the years go by. It is the WORST part of practicing medicine. Another terrible thing is that in Academia, they put so much weight on "researchers" that those types get more respect than they deserve in the clinical setting. The worst clinicians I have ever seen are heavy researchers because they dedicate so little of their time and energy to perfecting their clinical skills. I find that I often have to clean up their messes. It is profoundly frustrating.

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

From what I’m aware of though not all positions at big hospitals are academic positions and they also have just hospital type positions for you not to do that research thing and to just be a doctor

@themedicinesurvivor8869 3 года назад

@dr.cellini, please take care of ur plant, in the background.

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Haha trying

@bethanyb5897 3 года назад

8:25 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣. Your sense of humor literally makes me LOL OBL is the way to go!! For instance, a Medicare patient having an angio- possible/possible/possible, the MD would get paid around $300-1300 if done in a hospital. OBL- close to $19k!

@zhaoweizhang919 3 года назад

Great content, Dr. Cellini! Do Neuro IR and body IR differ a lot when it comes to private practice? Do neurointerventionalists have the similar options as Body Interventionlists, such as partnership track or OBLs?

@shamrockgirl6595 3 года назад

Luv your videos. Very educational.

@antoinetteljc12 3 года назад

Loving that bar in the background

@nailak7948 3 года назад

Honestly one of the least pretentious Doctor vloggers out there. Love you

@DVMCellini 3 года назад

i beg to differ

@strongDr 2 года назад

@@DVMCellini Are you too brothers (or related)?

@pammusick2264 3 года назад

What’s a reasonable timeline for job offers? When does this year of fellowship end vs when a new job would begin? Wishing you the very best!

@DwayneBellwashere 3 года назад

Dr C, I love that APP advocacy!!! 3:33

@user-gc9sv1so9c 3 года назад

Your videos are very useful

@KeilaC22 3 года назад

wow I thought you'd be automatically offered a position at the hospital where you completed residency...good to know

@kabusharabusha 3 года назад

As an IR, how much reading vs procedures do you end up doing post-fellowship?

@CommentsComments 2 года назад

How much research did you feel was necessary to be a competitive applicant for Radiology residencies? (Considering step 1 is now pass/fail how would that affect your research drive if you were in med school now?)

@AlilishSuki 3 года назад

What rabbit hole did I fall down. Not training to be a doctor, but really interesting information.

@ashog1426 3 года назад

Im going for PA but I think this could still be useful info thanks 👊

@ohrabbits 3 года назад

Hey, this is great. Very interesting.

@heehaaification 3 года назад

Aaah I have my heart set on academia but it hurts knowing that academia pays substantially less whilst I have so much loans to pay off and the public service loan forgiveness is notoriously hard to get....

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

That’s a total myth at times academia pays the same as those in private practice if not more, plus I heard that reimbursement rates for private physicians are decreasing so I’d say those that work at prestigious hospitals are doing fine

@rotinomaso 3 года назад

What are some examples of those hybrid academic private practice institutions you mentioned?

@JayTennent 3 года назад

Hey my dream is to become a radiologist, and I’m going everything I can in school rn to get closer to my goal, and your videos inspire me to kelp going. Thanks for making such great content🙏

@tahmidkarim3686 3 года назад

I would really appreciate if you can talk about how much an attending diagnostic radiology makes vs an interventional radiologist? Also what work life balance is like in diagnostic vs interventional radiologist

@CloudslnMyCoffee 2 года назад

And if the field is going more towards ir since they can do both?

@saisiddabattula6247 3 года назад

I have been enjoying your videos. COuld you try to do the same type of videos you have been doing recently (about money, salary, Residency salary, etc.) and do it with Andriana. SHe could talk about the optional fellowships, residencies, etc that you can pursue when you are a PA (and overall salaries, etc.). just an idea. I would like to see that

@DrCellini 3 года назад

No problem!

@saisiddabattula6247 3 года назад

@@DrCellini Thank you

@johnwood3071 3 года назад

I love your content your my favorite RU-vidr

@DrCellini 3 года назад

then you should subscribe!

@alphaspartan 3 года назад

Oof, you got called out, lmao.

@andongiordano1896 3 года назад

Dr. Cellini, Can you talk about corporate (known as PE in Auntminnie) versus real private practice partnership jobs? Are you able to find PP partnership offers in NYC?

@katttdo 3 года назад

Technically, can't you still teach students who shadow you as well? :) It's all a win-win!

@baileyharvey9300 3 года назад

MS2 from Texas here. Can you speak to the ability to work from home as a DR in private practice? In your experience how often does this occur and are groups generally open to this kind of setup? Thanks for your content it lets me see what I get to look forward to for my medical career!

@DrCellini 3 года назад

A lot of groups do this

@themedicinesurvivor8869 3 года назад

great explanation, would love to do observerships with u some day. Ameen.

@enghuu5577 3 года назад

What were your board scores? I wanna go into rads and I wanna have a rough idea of the average at NC. Thanks. Also aren't there jobs like kaiser where who you can work for with higher pay that is non academic but employed by the hospital to qualify for PSLF. And its higher pay than academics.

@dill_lift Год назад

Thanks for the video! Very informative. I'm about to start ortho R1 in Canada. Do these general guidelines apply to the Canadian system as well?

@shamrockgirl6595 3 года назад

I follow Dr. Braly & love her Doctor Reacts videos. Do you do those also?

@ErikS- 3 года назад

I am from Europe, What you see here regularly is a mix: i.e. being both (i) self-practicing; and (ii) part-time connected to a university.

@jacobdarnell189 3 года назад

Hey Dr. Cellini! I’m around here and love your channel! I noticed that in one of you vids that you were wearing a UGA beanie (Go Dawgs btw) and I remember you saying you were from Georgia. I was wondering if you happen to gone to UGA for your undergrad and MCG for your med school and how that whole experience was for you. If you have happen to have already done a vid on this then it would be very helpful to link it! Those are my dream schools and want to know if you went those routes.

@aqualife88 3 года назад

He went to PCOM for DO

@user-gc9sv1so9c 3 года назад

I love your videos so much

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Thx so much!

@Rh92887 3 года назад

Would be interested in a video (or comment here) if a new IR attending would take a private practice job in NYC or cash out for 2x the pay in a more rural area?

@malavdave8 3 года назад

Is it easy to switch over to private practice after a few years of academic or vice versa?

@hommie789 3 года назад

What about costs? Like insurance, is it cheaper to get malpractice insurance as an academic or private or it doesn't matter?

@urielromero5069 3 года назад

Very interesting general overview of private vs academic IR... thanks for sharing I’ve seen an entire radiology group uprooted by the hospital association for a “cheaper” bigger radiology group..? Also, Ive worked in a hospital that have IRs who bring tremendous revenue to the hospital. My question regarding radiology specialty is: will AI (artificial intelligence) be reading diagnostic images and/or take over certain aspects of radiology specialty...?

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Nope. Not anytime soon. I think AI will give us the ability to read faster and read more though

@kevinrivera1723 3 года назад

I’m a medical student currently in my clinical rotations, and am very interested in DR. Does it matter if one matches to a “lower tier” community residency program? I’ve heard mixed things from a handful of radiologists I’ve asked; some say it then becomes harder to go on to do a fellowship if you’re coming from a “lower tier” community program. Obviously I’ll do my best to match to the best program I can, but just wanting to weigh the risk of not matching to a good program. What’s your take on this?

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Yes, it may impact your fellowship, and it may also impact your training as well

@kevinrivera1723 3 года назад

@@DrCellini Very good to know. Your videos are super helpful and informative by the way - thanks for taking the time to do all this!

@mariakrakovski5610 3 года назад

Do most physician types (from ED to peds to GI) have opportunity to choose between academic vs pp?

@sakechung2887 3 года назад

How hard is it to find a job in private practice?

@fatihemhan 3 года назад

Hi what are chances for diagnostic resident to not get a IR subspeciality with Esir or traditional pathway?

@WhereIsTheBourbon 3 года назад

Have you made a video on your student loan repayment plan? I’d be curious to see what you think about Dave Ramsey etc.

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Dave Ramsey is a litttttle over the top...but he is a straight shooter

@lovelypolishperson5566 3 года назад

Are you a genius (as you study to become an MD)? In Poland only the best students score enough points to be accepted in a medical school.

@AstroDobleA 3 года назад

What is the bread and butter in your specialty?

@futuredockey3695 3 года назад

Will we be getting content with your private practice members ?

@WeAreObject 2 года назад

Where do you find these groups to join? Is there a website for PP jobs

@jasongualito4091 3 года назад

Hey just a question what degree did you get before entering Med school ??

@adamhenderson4711 3 года назад

I believe he went for economics and then did his prerequisite later on in his life and then went to med school

@ERdoctorMike 3 года назад

Nice vid

@donnawolfe8682 3 года назад

Cleveland Clinic.....but then I’m partial. Good luck in wherever life takes you.

@aqualife88 3 года назад

PS how you liking that Mac OS update lol

@MaKaye55 3 года назад

So...before I even watch the rest of the video (I literally stopped from the beginning to write this comment after eyeing it), I’m gonna need you to explain the story behind the Dr. Mike ‘Hollywood’ Cellini desk name plate. Inquiring minds must know 😁

@davidp5791 3 года назад

Go both ways. Impart your knowledge to others while earning a living

@tirzahsimone1569 3 года назад

Are community hospitals a part of academic or private practice?

@Bogdan_R_d 3 года назад

You could work another 4 years in an nonprofit and then go to private practice.

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Then I’m behind going into a partnership track...

@sherrydawson6253 3 года назад

Gosh thank u for explaining how u could be in private practice yet your base is in a hospital. Especially when u mentioned Anesthesiologist groups then the bell really clicked. I'm so excited for u. Wherever u go they will be blessed 😊❤

@AllThingsAdiu 3 года назад

Private practice seems to be a better fit for your desired lifestyle!

@Malu-un9tc 3 года назад

All time watching peoples talk doctor love.

@razasyed575 3 года назад

We love you miguel

@andrewfuentes5826 3 года назад

How old were you when you went into medical school?

@siiiply_amy6125 3 года назад

So you know what it is when my knee keeps clicking

@diksharawat6490 3 года назад

Wow... New video 😊☺☺

@DrCellini 3 года назад

You know it!

@tedschwartz2416 3 года назад

very interesting

@purplgrits7916 3 года назад

Now, where? Staying in NYC I bet 🧿🧿🧿

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Still figuring that out!

@pratikpandey9285 3 года назад

Hey Dr Cellini , i saw your comment on Dr Mike’s Video🤪.... hehe so can we expect a collab in future?🫂😬

@mark62891 3 года назад

I love working with complex patients. I get bored working with the same 10 diagnoses all the time.

@raeruixuezhang8500 3 года назад

Are other specialties private practice vacation time similar to radiology or IR

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Yep!

@raeruixuezhang8500 3 года назад

@@DrCellini nice. Thank you. I am MS1 and wanna do IR!! Please make a video on IR salaries that would be awesome!! 👏

@chrislifts2981 3 года назад

could you make similar assumptions for rad onc?

@pikusarker1359 3 года назад

Sir how much will you be earning as a radiologist after residency? Nice video.

@DrCellini 3 года назад

Depends

@tariqAli-sz8pm 3 года назад

@@DrCellini approximately? you are my inspiration..

@miguelmaturana8757 3 года назад

It’s funny how academics is blue and PP is red.

@Quilter1970 3 года назад

Will you stay in NY? Will your wife become your PA in the future?

@annavitalia 3 года назад

we need Andriana to vlog!! or make videos in general

@aqualife88 3 года назад

So random but I need to ask, is it dangerous to stand in front of microwave when making food? Especially if doing it all the time..I ask because my brother cooks those Ramen cups in the microwave (I am guilty of it too), but he stands in front of the microwave the whole time. I don't and i tell him he shouldn't because it's literally micro waves of radiation. Is this true? Are they actually that hazardous? Give me your input please and thank you!!

@alphaspartan 3 года назад

Tbh you shouldn't be eating ramen noodles and other processed foods if you care that much about your health lol.

@aqualife88 3 года назад

@@alphaspartan lol I care more about radiation than eating ramen but I get what you're saying for sure

@aqualife88 3 года назад

@@alphaspartan I'm just more curious about if microwaves actually emit that much dangerous particles or if it's minimal

@alphaspartan 3 года назад

@@aqualife88 I was just giving you a hard time lol. You'll learn in your college physics class that Microwaves are a form of non ionizing radiation. Findings indicate that most types of non-ionizing radiation do not cause cancer.

@aqualife88 3 года назад

@@alphaspartan ah very nice haha thanks a lot

@salsaplease 3 года назад

as a PA student.. thank you for respecting/valuing PAs as members of the team! It's so disheartening seeing some doctors not do the same.

@megyoung9303 3 года назад

A very experienced RN once told me..."remember - M.D. does not stand for Major Deity!". the docs who do not realize the value of EACH team member, lose, lose, lose. It can be very difficult working with adult brats, tho. Hang in there!

@plain48 3 года назад

Did you take your medical school prerequisite at community college or a 4 year?

@plain48 3 года назад

@drcelleni

@plain48 3 года назад

@drcellini

@maokal 3 года назад

Fact 1% radiologists will watch this BTW a lot of your audience are not in medical field

@alexwyler4570 3 года назад

Have you heard of anybody that got their student loans cancelled? Teachers lament here the program did not manifest for them even though they qualified.

@iamtenrose7479 3 года назад

4 years academic at a non-profit and then private practice lol

@lararafalco2156 3 года назад

Team up with Dr Mike

@southeastAF 2 года назад

Academic vs non-academics is generally a more appropriate description. Most specialties don't have a large "private practice" presence. Radiology is unique in that there are still a lot of private gigs. I think this can be misleading to those who have no idea what private practice vs hospital based practice is.

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

I know he isn’t in academic practice plus from what I’m aware of is that not all positions at prestigious hospitals are “academic positions” and they also offer clinical positions. Plus in some cases being at a hospital pays far better then that of a private practice position because of the incentive bonuses they receive and the huge salary raises they get as they progress in their department each year and become better. So I think private practice doesn’t need to be glorified I know it’s amazing but if you think about it the insurance companies and billing is mad annoying

@southeastAF Год назад

@@xplicitgoofy1015 I’m sure you’re right. I think it all depends on the local area. Every area has different group dynamics.

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

@@southeastAF yeah that’s so true like I watch this Orthopedic Spine Surgeon on RU-vid who is in private practice and he always complains about his compensation due to the rising overhead and decreasing reimbursement rates. And it’s just so surprising to me because usually orthopedic Spine surgeons that work in big prestigious hospitals live so comfortably and don’t complain as much as he is I mean he said he loves his job but it’s just insane the amount he complains with current circumstances of how our economy is with inflation and everything

@southeastAF Год назад

@@xplicitgoofy1015 he is complaining because he is going from 2,000,000 to 1.5 million. He’s still making racks- the academic surgeons are not making nearly as much as him. I guarantee this. I worked for 4 years as a PA in spine.

@xplicitgoofy1015 Год назад

@@southeastAF lol he isn’t making 1.5M even, he is barely making 200k per year that’s private practice for you. Also why is working at a hospital considered “academic practice” when you aren’t in an academic position? I know of a spike surgeon who is head of spine surgeon at this prestigious hospital who has a T20 medical school and he is making a 5 million dollar salary. All I’m saying is not all positions at a hospital are considered academia and they very much could have the potential to make a lot. Sure he is the head surgeon of his department but still I’d assume Spine surgeons are making a lot at hospitals like that.