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Never, EVER pay up front. The forums over the years are littered with hundreds of people who have paid up front and then found the club has gone bust ... or want to move to another club and find they can't etc etc etc. If there is one good piece of advice to anyone learning to fly, don't pay up front under any circumstances.
The best money saving tip is to prepare for the lesson. NEVER try to learn something in the air - learn it on the ground, the practice and refine it in the air. Also spend time at the airfield between lessons talking to people - those conversations can be a goldmine of useful information, and if you become friends with people, they're more likely to offer you a ride where you can watch and learn without being overloaded by actually flying the plane yourself - just be aware that (like with the flight simulator) you may also learn bad habits which your instructor will then struggle to correct.
I’ve just been quoted at £6,780 for 45 lessons and 15 landings out of Liverpool for my money, and I also spoke with an instructor out of Blackpool to ask them about Liverpool training. Funny enough, they said that Liverpool have ATC so you learn to fly in traffic controlled areas, but WE have less traffic so not much waiting for clearance whilst on ground. I’ve chosen Liverpool as I want to have experience of ATC straight off....I’m 72 by the way, and have waited many years to have the time to do this, so I’ve just had Microsoft flight onscreen.... Great vid, very comprehensive....good luck to us all.....
Will do...hopefully....many to come as well.. can’t start just yet tho...looking to March or early April... Looking for a couple of cheap ‘go pro’s’ first so I can film AND hear what’s being said via pre-recordings.....instructor approval 1st tho... Stay safe...
@@sonnyyombo2230 hiya…. Well…. I thought it BRILLIANT. but unfortunately I was not able to complete training, as I had to go back to South Africa due to family illness, and I’ve only been back a short time now. The 5 or 6 lessons I had there, was great… good trainers, aircraft good too… patient and explained everything more than once, which was great for me… but the choice of ATC was excellent…please try it if you can…. A wonderful experience that more peeps should try out…. Good luck bru….
Few comments. 1. You don't need a Class 1 medical until you get to Commerical flying so for your PPL, Night, IMC (IR Restricted) and possibly even Twin, you don't need a Class 1. Just get a Class 2 until you need a Class 1 otherwise it will be a waste of money. 2. Be careful with the ground school exams. They changed 3 years ago. In the past, they used to ask 16 questions out of a question bank of 100 questions. So, all you needed to do was revise the question bank. Had that been the case, I could have passed one exam per week. However, the new format is, you need to read and study every book because you need to now understand what it is their asking which then leads to the answer. I have a BEng Aerospace Engineering with 36 hours of flight experience in the USA plus I've done 27 hours of flying in the UK. I finally passed all 9 exams but I failed "Ops" and also "Flight Planning" because some questions weren't even in the books!!! I even complained to the CAA about one question and they agreed it was an ATPL question and said the question shouldn't have been there. 3. I'd recommend a few different products; - Headset. I originally bought a Sennheiser which after 25 hours of flying, I realised was fautly so I couldn't hear ATC which destroyed my confidence (I never had an issue with RT in the USA). So, I exchanged it for a Bose A20. My God, it was worth the extra cost!!! - Microsoft flight sim has pretty graphics but the flight characteristics aren't as professional as XPLANE. But, you need to buy airports and scenery from ORBX. - I invested in the Honeycomb Alpha yoke, Brave throttle quadrant and I have Charlie pedals on order so for now, I'm using my Thrustmaster TPR pedals. Having a VR headset enhances the experience and if you connect to VATSIM, you can talk to real people at ATC and all of those people need to be certified to know what they're doing. I'd say it would take on the order of 70 hours to get the PPL so in a Piper PA-28, that's £15,400 just for dual instruction.
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Excellent informative video. Am doing my PPL at the moment. Only thing I'd suggest is to use X-plane 11 as a simulator. I've tried both simulators over the lady few years and X-plane is a better platform for learning and practising the more complex areas of flying, e.g navigation.
Honest report I would say the 11k is a starting point for most people .Some minor comments Up front payment concept is fine if its an honest operation and doesnt go out of business, or get evicted in the interim.. Landing fees?? No mention, can really add up - some clubs included it in your hourly rate, others dont, depending on where you learn . Hourly rates for PA28 much higher typcially... £90 for a medical is a bargain, most I know are are c£150 .. While Im biased. learn to glide first, get the flying skills far more cheaply, (I went down that path and was solo in power after 90 minutes).I agree NPPL is much cheaper route for most peoples needs . Warning As an instructor, may I caution that self teaching on a simulator without knowedgable supervision can easily lead to bad habits being embedded which cost far more to break than any money save.. Whether it is poor handling, complacemcy, not respecting real aircraft limits, lack of lookout , ingrained practices to which you revert under stress.. I am currently tryting to do exactly that with a pupil. Evrything he knows is based on MS Flight Sim. and he keeps referring to it...
@@ProfitBoss But as you so rightly point out, the biggest money waster of all is not taking lessons sufficiently frequently. You forget much of what you already have learned. I recognised this after a few lessons, and so went down the path of "cramming" in a week, ie only a few instructors, three or four flight a day, far more cost effective,.
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I paid £210 for my Class 2 medical, last month. After some reading around, people were saying £200 was around the right price. But in the video you said typical was £90-100? I'm just wondering if I was ripped off or not! Good tips. I started training and now the costs are coming in and I'm having a bit of a, "Uhm, do I really, really want to commit to this?" But your uplifting comments about the feeling after first solo and it being worth it for the life experience made me realise, yes, I do want to continue :D
Hi, really glad to hear I have motivated you to carry on. After you solo and you can go around telling people you have flown a plane by yourself you can't really put a price on that. I paid £80 for mine at east midlands airport but of course it will vary depending on where you are in the country. Down south will be more expensive for sure. I double checked all the figures with my instructor and he agreed I had them accurate.
I want to get the license this year, this information is brilliant. Grettings from Edinburgh, hopefully I can thank you personally for the information!
Either there's a great deal of regional variation in costs or prices have increased a lot but down here in Kent I'm looming at £170-180 per hour for a microlight and around £220-250 per hour for a Cessna, and of course more for the Piper. All examples are excluding landing fees of around £20 per landing
Now that you have passed your tests and can hire small aircraft are you allowed to take passengers like me so they can observe what you are doing and thus learn something. I would pay my way and return you get to hire at less money so it works for both of us.
I’m going on a fight experience this year,I think it’s 2 hours with 2 other people,navigating,observing and taking control...not quite sure what to expect but excited.
Suggesting that students pay everything up front is really not good advice!! If anything having a big discount offered for pre payment could suggest of a school being in financial trouble already. Also, for anyone watching this in 2022, a class 2 medical (CAA) is circa £290 and a class 1 (CAA) is circa £600, If you want an EASA & CAA Class 1 medicals it'll cost between £1000- £1300
Interesting vid, thanks. When would you say the best time of year to commence flying training in the UK ? I guess timing it to take advantage of the summer months with longer periods of daylight is advisable.
How's the flight training going ? I took a hour trial in a 152( yes your right it was a tight squeeze for both of us ), on one windiest days of the year, We waited ages before we went up, for a break in the weather, I felt so sick after 20mins I asked if we could return to the airfield, I felt the instructor just wanted to fly as he would not have got paid otherwise. That experience really put me learning to fly after that.
Hi man, Thanks for the video. Quick question, have you been studying to exams only from Pooleys Exam Preparation Books? Your link to the books has expired btw :).
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I’m a commercial pilot. It’s hard work and a lot of cash but well worth it in the end. Although at the moment I’m matched betting to earn some extra money as we’re all on a paycut!
It's MUCH more expensive training now than it was 10 to 12 years ago! Landing fee, touch and go fee, fuel, aircraft hire maintenance.......much more expensive easily pay £220 an hour for a flight in a C152 plus landing whereas in 2010 it was £170 to £180.. I know a school where landing in near 30 quid that's why folk training there for circuits fly to another airport....also adding time and money to the lesson!!
Even though it isn't cheap, it's certainly half the price of a ppl H. When I did my trial flight the instructor was almost convinced I had flown before. I said no I just play a lot of FSX. It does count for a lot. Makes the transition almost natural.
Hiya. Thanks for the information I was curious to know how much time is given for a person to pass their PPL, before it expires (as in the lever 2 health exams and all the ground exams). Thanks :-)
Hi, glad I can help. Yeah sure. If you are under 40 your class 2 medical is valid for 60 months (5years). Then for the exams they are valid for 18months starting from the calendar month of when you attempted the first exam.
Hey, well if you can find someone who is okay to pay £200 for the hour lesson just for you to tag along for free yes. Usually you'd offer X amount to pay towards their lesson.
Hi Graham, not 100% true. I could of carried on with my training and actually have completed my commercial by now if I wanted. Get your living costs down and your income up then spend the difference on lessons until you have passed everything. It might take 2 years or maybe even 5 years but you will get it done if you want it enough. If you are in the UK check out the matched betting content I have on the channel which allows you to make hundreds a month tax and risk free. You can check out the guide I have to get started here: www.profitboss.co.uk/matchedbetting Thanks
PPL is for light aircraft...if you're talking commercial airlines the training is gonna come out ur own pocket...at least £80,000 and most even want A levels
Thanks for this, I have a couple of questions though. How many hours per month do you recommend getting in and/or does it need to be comlpeted in a short space of time? Also once all is said and done and you are qualified, what would it cost to say rent an aircraft for 3-4 hours, including fuel/insurance and any other costs I havent mentioned. I'm not rich, but with a bit of overtime in my current lorry driving job I think I could afford £500-600 per month to expend on training. Thanks.
Hi, the way I would aim to do it is 2hrs booked on a Saturday and 2hrs for the Sunday every week. Some may get cancelled due to weather etc but that's a good level of balance. Aircraft rental is around £90-£150p/h depending on location and size plane you want. I was tramper driving when I did my training and found matched betting which is great if you are against gambling and have a basic maths level. I am live streaming answering questions here on the channel 5 nights a week 7-8pm Mon-Thurs and Saturdays so come along if you want to learn more. It's a great way to add £500 a month tax free for a couple hours of work a week. Can check out the site I use for it here: bit.ly/37NujSV Regards Chris
Hi, that would be for if you do the integrated commercial pilot training. I may do a video on how much it costs to get your commercial licence if enough interest. So no you were not tripping just looking at another course haha
Normally on top of CPL the more expensive ones, say 90k+ will have connections with airlines and help setting you up with an airline. Normally a CPL just from a normal school will be around 75k-80k
