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I know it's an old video, but there are 52 weeks so should be 26 paychecks, or does compensation at Google work differently when it comes to a paycheck in two weeks, a little confused.
I'm sad, you get paid well, but do not even know 52/2=26. 52 weeks/paychecks every 2 weeks=26 paychecks a year. 2 months a year you get 3 paychecks. But great job getting great pay in Tech and not understanding basic math!
My friend got offered $370k for L4 at Google LA since he got a competitive offered from FB. He passed L5 at FB and they offered $380k at Seattle campus. However, he loves Google so he moved to LA. And when he first came, he was lucky since the equity stock raised up that time. He ended up actually gets $400k. 😂 The base is the same that you said tho. He gained 1M within a year.
@@gwentan8476 not all people can get that much even though they may have a similar experience. I have another friend who passed L5 FB, L5 Uber, and L4 Google. He was working at MSFT. But he doesn’t get as much as this guy did even though this guy worked in a small company before joining Google. The money they offered based on your interview performance besides competitive offer. Anw Good luck. You can do it.
Wouldn’t the 400k in equity be vested over a period of 4 years in the form of RSUs? In that case, after he completes a full year with Google he’ll have access to just 25% or 100k in stocks. Plus add 30-40% in tax which will net to just 60k in the bank 🥺
Great video! I'm 12 years old and thriving to become a software engineer/cybersecurity professional. This video gave me a more understanding on how much companies pay and hopefully will help me in the future. Thank you Jon.
Nice breakdown. Some other factors to consider when comparing offers is cost of living, state taxes, and current valuation of the stock. For example, 324k in Austin is equivalent to 641k in SF according to the nerd wallet comparison tool. Getting stock offers at big tech’s current valuations could result in a big pay out in a few years.
a comparison only is valid when buying like a 3bedroom home. not remotely similar when renting. Cost of living is more in CA than texas, but you and nerd wallet are wildly exaggerating when one is renting in both locations
@@bigpoppa4094 As someone who has lived both in Austin and San Diego, let me assure you we aren’t. What are you basing your claims on? A quick Google search shows average rent in SF at $3,700 vs $1,500 in Austin. That doesn’t even take into account the 1-12% income tax and the big price difference in gas, groceries, and goods. Could you spend the same living in Austin and San Francisco? Probably, but your bang for your buck will absolutely be different.
@@comedifiED I just did and the average rent for a one bedroom in both cities. Austin wasn’t $1,500, it was $2,200. SF wasn’t 3700, it was 3200. This is only a $12k difference. it’s not a $315k difference.
@@bigpoppa4094 Bruh I don’t think you know how income taxes and cost of living work. The 641k is taxed at 43% (10% state) and turns to 365k The 324k gets taxed at 30% and turns to 225k. According to Numbeo, San Francisco is about 40% more expensive than Austin. 225 * 1.4 = 315k. Very comparable. Mind blowing isn’t it.
That was an incredibly informative video! A lot of people don’t understand equity and I definitely understand it more after watching this! Amazing work on the video!
I love your videos, thanks for inspiring a lot of people. Im 23, i studied computer stystems engineer but i didn't learn too much in the school, now im preparing with online courses cause my dream is to be a software engineer at google in USA (im from Mexico). Giving up is not in my plans.
Just stumbled onto your RU-vid and I just love the genuine energy you give off while speaking. I am a fairly recent college graduate with a degree in Exercise Physiology due to being on a Physical Therapy track, but I have fully switched my attention to tech. I have been teaching myself HTML, CSS, and JavaScript over the past month and I am about to apply for a bootcamp in hopes of becoming a full-time Software Engineer! I was already aware of the compensation breakdown for google, but again, just loved the energy! Liked and Subscribed!
You are so lovely. You speak with such respect and consistency about yourself and the environment that you are. Thanks for your videos, it's been a pleasure to watch them.
Salary transparency is sooo important. Thank you for normalizing talking about pay!! I also have videos where interviewed Google, Meta, Microsoft employees how much money they actually make. Kinda mind blowing to see big gaps between these FAANG companies 😮
Google's screening process is getting the better of me the last few times I've applied despite my resume being 🔥 but we move and keep trying! Great video Jon!
F*** the haters man, thanks for sharing all the info. I'm not taking it as bragging. Its info I wanted to know as I start as an Associate Software Engineer next week.
Bro I come from a completely different stream but I really like to get motivate towards work and I love to collect info about all big workplace as well. Thanku Bro ❤️ Have a great time.
Awesome! That’s awesome you landed a great job. To note, you are not privileged, if anything, you are fortunate and blessed, remember that, you worked for this position, you made it happen, it just didn’t fall into your lap. Again, you’re not privileged, you are fortunate and you notice it, you are very appreciative of you job and should be proud of yourself. Congratulations on your success! Keep it up!
Hi bro , i am from India currently i am in class 12 I am coming USA next yr i got admitted in dakota state University I have lot of confussion related to these i want to ask you these questions please replay me 1. Does university matters in job, means students who graduate from mit , harverd ,Stanford they get good job ? As compared to other graduate student ? 2. what thing i do from my first yr that after my bachelor i will get good job like you (your advice for college student) 3.what is your first salary as a software engineer ? Please replay me Thanks for such beautiful information Love from India ❤
The university you go to can play a role in helping you land a job but at the end of the day what really matters is your skills and experience. My advice would be to work on personal projects and apply to internship programs as ways to gain real world experience!
Hey Jon. Thanks for the vid. I recently got an offer from Google, but I feel like I kinda screwed up the negotiation and got too few stocks (got higher base instead, with SO bonus). Considering I am planning to stay here for a long time, did I make a bad choice of choosing more stock over more RSU?
Hey! To clarify, Stock == RSU and it sounds like you chose having a higher salary over more stock but please correct me if I'm wrong. I think it really depends on your numbers and the role. Are you a software engineer? Have you compared to recent data in levels.fyi? Stock is a bit of a double edged sword because it can go up and it can go down, but your salary is a fixed number that you can plan with. So some people would prefer a higher base salary. Not financial advice* but if you really wanted RSU you could always buy Google stock with your salary. And I'm not very experienced with this, but if you feel very strongly I would consider reaching out to your recruiter and seeing if renegotiation is possible. The worst they could say is no. But be prepared to explain why and what numbers you are looking for. Hope that helps!
Having a large portion of your pay tied up in stock exposes you to some risk. Get the best outcome from here by investing each paycheck as soon as you get it
This is really inspiring! Im 22 just getting started in programming(currently learning java first) and really hope I can make it to where you are at one day. If you had some advice for a beginner what do you think it would be? I'll be getting a degree in software development from a local state college so not as rigorous as a university, but they still have similar courses such as algorithms, data structures, programming classes, javascript, etc. One thing they don't require is the math classes, I believe just up calculus 1. Should I take more math classes? Do you think not having a university degree vs state college degree would affect my employment opportunities or is it more so based off the resume and the portfolio I have built when applying to jobs in the future? I wish I would have known I wanted to pursue this career early on, but I never really knew what I wanted to do with my life and kept searching until now. I want to take advantage of the time I have now to make something for myself and my future. Really appreciate the content you've made so far!
Hey! Congrats on starting your journey, you're doing great 👍 The advice I wish I would have received would be to make sure you're getting enough sleep, eating nutritious food, and moving your body - because you can practice all the coding you want, but if you're constantly tired then it won't help. You'll retain information better if you're well rested, you'll have energy to study by eating healthy, and exercising will help clear your mind when you're stressed from learning how to code. Having a healthy foundation will help you in your studies but also in all other aspects of your life. What math classes would you take and why do you think you should take them? A lot of tech companies don't require a degree, so that goes to show that your resume/portfolio/skills & experience matters more than what college you go to. In the grand scheme of things, you're still really young and you have lots of time to figure things out so make sure to have fun along the way 😄
@@yourfriendintech I appreciate the response. For math courses, the degree does require discrete math, but no calculus classes. I may still take them on the side, but don't know if its worth going up to calculus 3 if it won't have being widely used in being a software engineer. From what I've read discrete and linear algebra seem to be good choices to take.
from what i ve seen your classes don t matter just take serious sideprojects or opensource contributions and try to get good grades with the least amount of effort
@@AZ-gs6hj figure out which disciplines of software engineering interest you. If you want to eventually go into a highly technical field like AI, ML, NLP, or CV, I would suggest taking up to Calc 3, Linear algebra, and also a calculus-based stats course. If you just want to be a web developer, you don’t really need any of the calculus, but I would still recommend taking an intro stats course since it’s applicable everywhere. Even as a web developer, it would help you to understand and measure changes in performance for example.
You’re not lucky. You played the hand you were dealt and the house made their move and you’re reaping the benefits. Keep on winning dude P.S. Any compensation that’s not recurring, don’t count it (sign on, relocation)
I've been applying for the past 7 years almost every year, no luck so far :( I can't get past the algorithm interviews. I am at this point a senior-level engineer, with numerous shipped products (you're likely using some of them) and in-depth experience in multiple languages and technologies, but if you put me on a time limit and give me an some DP puzzle, my brain just freezes. Their interview process is skewed to hiring fresh grads straight out of algorithms class and people who have inordinate amounts of time to solve hundreds of leetcode puzzles.
Amazing video Sir! It was highly informative. I am currently studying in college and I am really into competitive programming. But I am just a beginner who has been only coding for 3-4 months and I still have a lot to learn. I come from a family with poor financial status and I want to join in big tech companies (especially google) before graduating. I am open to any suggestions on how I can improve myself to that level. Any advice you give me could be a life changing advice for me. Right now, I am just solving problems in Codeforces and doing very little projects.
Thank you! Personally the best way I learned is by working on projects / building apps that I would actually use. The bonus is that you are getting experience coding, you are building software for a real user (yourself), and you're able to put these projects on your resume. I would recommend reaching out to any clubs, advisors, and professors on campus as they are well positioned to help you get better at coding!
I think it's interesting to watch these kinds of videos on RU-vid, lots of people in different industries/countries with very different experiences! It's really eye opening
Thanks for sharing! Wonder if a video on how the monetary value of your job adds up would not draw more interest. Would be fascinating to know how that value is attributed
What college did you attend bro? And does college name matter like being graduate from ivy league ? Because im currently studying at the university of edinburgh in uk which is not pretty known in usa but it is ranked 20 worldwide in computer science
I went to a California State University! I do think there are a lot of benefits in terms of education quality and networking opportunities from top tier colleges like an ivy league. But there are no college requirements to get hired at large tech companies, and ultimately your skills and experience matter more than the college name
Truly inspiring video! The really happy people are those who have broken the chains of procrastination, those who find satisfaction in doing the job at hand. They’re full of eagerness, zest, and productivity. You can be, too.
Hey Jon , I am a junior at college and a bio major. I have always been informed of the rewarding career in medicine but after some information on IT I thinks it’s definitely an intriguing field. I’m 2 years into my bio degree. I want an easy going life where I can earn really good money(200k) and travel and definitely provide for family. I understand location is key for money but essentially I want to live a more than comfortable life wherever I settle. The medical line is definitely rewarding but extremely challenging and long. I just want to ask what are possibilities of making it to a happy stage in IT field. Anyone wanna give any advice I’m open for it.
I faced this same issue/realization and I changed my major from bio to cs immediately, me personally I always wanted to go into med for the rewards, but as soon as I found out CS is just as rewarding for less time and everything put into I swapped. hope this helps
@@dcaftv how's the course load compared to when you were a bio major? i'm in the same predicament and don't know what to do. also did you feel behind? (assuming you didn't know how to code)
You can definitely live a comfortable life as a software engineer - the salaries are high and competitive, companies are offering perks left and right, you can work full time from the comfort of your own home, or you can even work and travel at the same time (look up digital nomad). Imo it's very easy to clock in, work 8 hours, and then enjoy the rest of my day. But as a huge disclaimer, it really depends on what company and what team you end up working on - for some software engineers, none of these are true. I do not personally know what a career in medicine looks like, but fwiw I just received a comment from a dentist who says they wished they studied CS instead 😅
I'll admit I'm not too familiar with web3 and what's going on in that space but I do think it's interesting and plan on making time to learn more about it. From my limited understanding, front end development will stay the same as it's mostly the backend that will change to be decentralized. Backend/databases will still exist in web3, so yes still worth it to learn
Hi! Yes, Google hires Android developers - I actually work on Android 😄. Android developers are software engineers so the salary is the same as you would see on levels.fyi
Hey Jon, does google hire people with 3-4 years of experience at its L3 level, what level of experience disqualifies you from an L3 position? Meaning, if I have a few years of experience in tech do I get disqualified for its L3 level? I only have 2 years of experience in tech and don't know if it is better to wait to get more experience to apply to Google, or apply with little experience any way knowing that I will likely not get the position? Thank you for your videos! They are high Quality :D
Hey! In my experience I've seen people with 3-4 years experience join Google at its L3 level. I think you should apply asap, because you can always reapply in the future
@@claudiamushi5082 he did reply. He said he has seen peopl with 3-4 years of exp get L3 jobs. His advice was to apply asap because you can always reapply.
There are a lot of free resources you can use to get started to program/code (freecodecamp, Harvard's CS50). I would recommend going that route, at least initially, to see if its something that you like doing. Then you can consider if its best to continue teaching yourself, going to a bootcamp, or going to college to learn. There isn't a general "best language" because there are pros/cons to each; but people typically start learning with python or javascript. Hope that helps!
Hi, jon After watching your videos i started after a longtime i done my graduation in commerce in 2014, and now i learn after ten years a coding and i learn by watching a youtube totorial and start full stack developer course. now i learn so many coding, when it done's what i can do next
Damn I feel broke. In USD, started at $4k/year, spent most of my life at $25k, only got near $120k after 20 years. May not even make it to $1m total at retirement and I've done a lot in my career, also worked at a faang company. Being born in the right place/time/circles makes all the difference.
@@yourfriendintech yea true, living cost differs - just looks like some cities in the US are great. Right now I'm happier being at a job I don't get too anxious about as well - some startups and faang jobs can be tense.
Thank you! If you want to break into the tech industry, ultimately you'll need skills and experience so I would focus on those + learning how to pass the technical interviews
I know why most of the peopel said me not to become a software engineer . I'm becoming oneeee , Thank u i was lost a bit . I'm 15 years old . Tryna improve my skills
I like to believe that anyone can achieve what they want to do in life. However, I can't speak to that experience. I grew up in the US and went to college here, so I'm really unaware of the difficulties or obstacles that exist in other countries. From your perspective, what do you need to do in order to achieve your goals? And is it realistic? What can help you in your goals? What can stand in the way of your goals? These are all questions that can guide you when you're planning out how you can achieve what you want to do in life. I hope that helps!
Other thing to factor in is how much your equity is likely to grow till vesting. Not sure how much more growth some big tech can sustain once it crosses 2T+ in market cap. In the past 360k TC was equivalent to 1M+ given equity growth (for some big tech) but this probably won’t be as common in the next decade.
What are your thoughts on switching to Google after a few years experience vs right out of college? You were talking about how your equity will grow with time, but applications for say L5 for 5 years experience looks faster if your really adept in this field
@@Steel598 Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I've definitely heard of people switching companies to get hired at the next level. I'm not sure if it's the quickest way - because you will have to learn new infrastructure/tools/codebase every time you switch. I've never done it tho so that's just my initial thoughts
@@Steel598 unless you have multiple strong counter offers(amazon, fb and etc) and nail each round of interview, there is no doubt that google will downlevel and lowball you. Anyway, it is possible to get L5 with 4 year experience as an external hire.
First question: What percentage of SWE working for Google or Amazon--Microsoft-Apple ? Because i think these salaries are faaar above National average. It sound like top 5-10% since most of the SWE are not working at Google or Apple. The average SWE salary on the USA around $150k including with all bonuses...... So this entry lvl $200k its for sure not average, as I said these salaries are like top 5-10% of SWE workers get earn but the reality the 90% of them gonna earn under $180k/annual.
I'm not sure on the exact number of FAANG swe vs non-FAANG. Agreed that Google and all the other large tech companies pay their software engineers really well - it's one of the ways they incentivize people to work for them vs. a competitor
Great vid, this might seem like a dumb question but can u apply to google as many times as you want? As in if u don't make it through the selection process the first time u can go again and again? Or is there a limit
Really enjoyed the video. I am currently taking a course to be a DevOps engineer. Does google have a DevOps team because that’s my first choice of companies to work for. Thank you.
Jesus, I'm a senior full-stack dev in the UK and I only make £40k per year with no bonus or stocks. Hoping to get promoted to tech lead this year, even then I'd be lucky if it reaches £50k. Maybe I need to start applying elsewhere, haha.
I've heard UK salaries are generally lower but yes definitely a good idea to apply around and see what your local market is paying people with your skills!
Its crazy how much SWE are paid If you work for a pre-IPO startup who's stock price is in a good position of booming, you can make bank My friend was a fresh grad from USC in 2017, and started at Roblox pre-IPO and ended up at it's price peak with $10million with less than 4 years of work
That's awesome - there are definitely a lot of stories like that here in the Bay Area - and also a lot of stories where people join startups that end up going nowhere.
Jon, are you saying you have 1 million dollar in Google stock (vested + unvested) or you total compensation from Google for the past year is 1 million dollar?
Thank you for all the information. I have always wanted to do coding and I’m finally going back to college for it. I get super nervous on interviews I’m sure I’ll fail all of them lol but I’m not quitting dammit! Oh man how hard was your interview?
Congrats on starting your coding journey! I will admit that interviewing can be hard but it's also a skills that you can get better at through practice. I failed a lot of interviews, but I learned from each experience and got better every time (and it also helps to practice with friends!)
@@yourfriendintech aww thank you so much for getting back to me and yes I will learn the hard way. I always get nervous when I have job interviews because I take it toooooo seriously and because I hate being asked so many questions hahahaha but it is what it is right XD
Wow!Your video finds me very well to strive very hard in learning programming. I'm still learning in a slow phase though. I decided to really dig this in by learning myself first how to be an software engineer. can you tell me what programming language are using as software engineer? any advice as a newbie? sub!
Hi! Programming language will depend on what you plan on working on. For example, I use Java because I work on Android and that is one of the supported languages. For beginners, most people recommend learning with Python or Javascript. My best advice for people new to programming is to practice a lot - there's a steep learning curve and it takes a while for things to start making sense
New grads usually start to apply for full time jobs at the beginning of their final year. If you're still in school, you should consider applying to internship programs as well
