Do you need any license/certification to fish as a business? Also do you need to have some kind of agreement with the company you sell your fish to? Just asking because I’m trying to do the same
Shit I'll sign up right now cause I'm over here breaking my back for less doing something I hate so I'm legit gonna look into this cause fishing is a lot of things and if it can be a job for me I'll be a happier man.
Wrong. Deckmates either get a flat rate or a percentage, so the other guys made even less lmao. When I was a lobsterman it was me and the captain. I got 30% of whatever we caught and sold for that day. We'd usually catch between 400-600$ worth per day, 900-1200$ during peak season. You have your seasons where you only pull in like 300$ a day but those seasons you pull in 1k make up for it. Ask this dude how much he catches during peak. Probably makes 130$ an hour
@@donttrickimtricky.8567 No, 9.33€ per person for a fisher in high season means that theyre EXTREMELY BAD fisher or its an off season / just a bad day. Its a bad day, they know what they do! When me and my uncle where fishing (Im austrian but he is norwegian) him and his 2 buddies would make ~12€/h each in a bad day and +50€/h in a the best week in the year. And Im not even saying 50€/h was the maximum… It is a really inconsistent job and you have to save a few bucks for the off season! And even the best fishers have to save money to be able to keep up the live standard.
I’m actually not so sure about that They get close to half of the market price of those fish Meaning the most that the brokers can get is well…the other half It’s just the brokers end up with their half, another boats half, another another boats half, etc etc etc
@@ZebraLuvthey dont work for seafood companies. They sell their fish to a fish buyer who then sells the fish to a distributor who then sells to a restaurant/market who then sells to the consumers. Every step up the chain it gets a little more expensive to cover extra costs such as rent for the building for the fish buyer or trucking costs for the distributor or cooks for the restaurant. Usually a fish buyer will pay less than if the fisherman sold directly to the public but its incredibly convinient to sell all your fish in bulk and you dont need to set up a shop and pay for refrigeration and all other cost of a shop. Fisherman dont want to be merchants so the fish buyer is a benifit for fisherman.
It's not upper management either, it's ownership. Owners of fishing companies, owners of markets, owners of brokerages. They don't have to do shit, they pay the managers for that, but they reap all the extra value that's produced by everyone's work.
@@sirpieman300 in some states, to buy directly from the fishermen you will need a dealers license and report weekly on weights and purchases. That's why often fishermen sell to dealers who then sell to wholesalers.
Black sea bass are one of my favorite fish! Nothing beats fresh caught. The smaller ones make for the best fried fish or elevated sandwich. The meat is tender but it holds its shape better than other super flaky fish. Gotta try it if you haven't!
The store mark up is to cover the labor of the market employees, trucking costs, electricity/rent for the market, etc... Every step from fisherman to consumers adds a extra layers of cost. Your basically paying extra to not have to go to the dock and buy straight from the fisherman. Its convinient enough that this is the way it works in most of the world.
This is why you should buy direct from your local producer (ranch, farm, fisherman). At $1/lb I wouldn't be going out there unless I had a way to haul up hundreds of pounds. As the consumer, you should learn to fillet your own fish and stock up when something comes in that you like.
282.40... but doesn't account for cost of insurance... maintenance... cost of supplies etc. Then divide by 3 per person. Bloke is making less than min wage in most places.
28 an hour isn’t bad on a vacuum but when you factor in how you can just be hit with very inconsistent days Random repairs And that your job while not high risk, still has some risk involved
Never understood why commercial fishing get to keep smaller fish and more of them and me just a Normal guy has to catch monsters to keep them and if I am lucky to fall into a good run I can only keep a fraction of what commercial fisherman catch. Who is really making a bigger difference? Me who gets out a few times a year, keeping a few lbs of fish or the commercial fisherman who gets out almost everyday and can keep hundreds of lbs each day? Just let recreational fisherman fish freely.
I think it has to do with the fact that theres way more oversight. Rec guys are more likely to keep undersize stuff than commercial. We get boarded and checked at the dock CONSTANTLY. Also theres alot more rec. Boats than commercial. They can directly count how maby licenses they give out and how much was caught which is alot harder to calculate than rec. Which they also keep track of but, don't know what is caught year to year as much.
$28 an hour split between (at least) three people. That's less than $10 an hour, not to mention the possibility of less bites in a particular day (or more if you're lucky I suppose!)
@@mathmanchris666, I’m a carpenter. I just now hit $20 an hour 😂. It’s steady work though. But thanks to Covid the price on wood went through the roof. Hurt our trade quite a bit.
The fish we have at the local grocery stores is from the company I work for. We buy containers of LL haddock from Norway or pacific cod from Alaska. It’s then thawed, run through 2 million dollars of machinery on a 22 person crew. We average about a 45% yield from the raw material, make blocks of mince that gets sold to a pet food maker, skins are frozen and sold to another supplier to make fish skin treats or makeup. The grocery store sells it for 12.99 to 16.99 a lb. If we bought fresh from the auction the cost is a lot higher and the fish is softer since it wasn’t flash frozen.
@@MrSamrchds because the water is vary ruff because of tropical storms and being in the middle of the ocean and ever thing is much more expensive like gas and lots of fishing tackle.
@@adventuresofhawaii3375 Yeah, it's not like Hawaii is known for having beautiful, crystal clear water surrounding it. In every video of Hawaii anyone has ever seen, the sea is like mud and people have to stay inside because the weather is so bad...
@@mmfish Something to do with fishing? Hmmm... astronaut? No that's not it, errr... bartender? No that's not it either. This is way too difficult.... WAIT! Got it. Have you ever considered (and this will sound crazy but hear me out)... becoming.... a fisherman?
You also need a Saltwater Product license to sell your fish and you have to be able to provide so many lbs of Whiting a year before you can target other species.
Yes the cost of labor factors into the cost of fish at the grocery store, just not exclusively the fishermans. Theres still somebody who has to transport it, store it and prepare it before its sold on a shelf. Anything that adds more cost to the production is obviously going to raise the price. Its not entirely just some cheap middleman in the form of a corporation and the current rate on inflation doesn’t help any of this.
glad this video is here. I commercial fish in alaska amd we get screwed on our fish prices. The people that risk their lives and actually catch the fish get barely enough to survive nowadays
Those 2 guys are noobs making a youtube video. Two commercial deckhands are going to be able to catch and handle fish at a much much faster rate. They would put 3 or 4 times the amount of fish on the boat than these youtube guys doing it for the first time. So 28/hr is reasonable to estimate.
You need a boat to go out and catch those fish, boat payment. Keeping the boat in the water? Dock space rent. Pulling the boat out of the water after each use? Truck payment. It's expensive.
I’m all for commercial guys making money. They work hard but as an angler who spends a lot of money to also use a passion to provide food to my family and friends, It’s absolutely crazy we have different rules. Who has a bigger impact on the resources, us who have tighter regulations or others who can harvest more with wider guidelines. Again, this isn’t a knock against the commercial guys, they work their ass off for every penny. I’m speaking of the folks that make the rules. Keep catching fellas!!!
The prices in Jamaica would be like 2x those or more, could easily make $4-6 per pound on each of those fish. But it's harder to catch a good haul these days.
Worked with a guy who dredged conch, we’d have over 20 totes and I figured out he was making 1200-2500 a day minus gas! And paying deck help 200 each for a total of 400. So not bad
Keep in mind as a commercial fisherman, you need to supply all your own gear. Boats and boat maintenance can be incredibly expensive. I spend a lot of time in Prince Edward Island and it’s always funny to see people in these little mobile homes with a giant commercial fishing boat in their driveway with a super expensive car or truck sitting next to it. They can make a lot of money and it can be hard and dangerous work but they usually live pretty humble lives where I’m from so I’ve always respected that profession greatly.
It is never the farmer, grower, fisherman, or the rancher getting rich on the activities. Almost always it is the middlemen and the final seller making money.
Where I live on a remote island we have to fillet the fish ourselves on the pier feed frams and guts to sharks then sell to restaurants. Restaurants buy our fish at $30/per kilogram. Usually we fill the boats bin and make 2000 on a good day. But usually around 1.5k seems to be average for me. And this can be everyday If I have the energy too. Usually setup 4 alveys 5 hooks per alvey usually 5 fish every minute per alvey
Hey man love your content, I'm an upcoming commercial fisherman myself! I would love to see you making a video explaining the different types of fishing, gillnetting, seining, and long lining. Thanks!
Don’t there is a lot they ain’t telling like how they’re using their daddy’s boat and they gotta split that 28/hour and which is 9.33 person better off working somewhere else
If my fishing skills were a little bit better and I had the right equipment, I would be perfect for this because I don't get sea sick so I can be out there for hours and I love fishing
You also have to consider this is just a small center console with 3 crew members just trying it out. Most commercial fishing companies have large ships that catch fish in bulk racking up thousands of pounds in a few hours. So don’t let this video get you feeling too bad😂
i see a lot people in this world think fishing is really easy i would agree at a lake yes but you gotta include weather amounts fished right place to fish and many more
Ya, guys let’s be real. The amount of fish they sold does not feel fair for the compensation. I look at it at how much I would pay for one of those fish at a market. I live in Canada so big diff but w.e. 1 Jumbo would probably cost me 25-30$.
Nevermind the different laws between states. Oh, that striper is undersized in Rhode Island? Better call my buddy ten minutes away who has a NY license.
If you add in all the hours of prep and afterwards, it goes down to 14 an hour, split that with 3 people and that's about 4.50 an hour per person. Add in maintenance per day over an average year, and how much you spend on gear per year on average for a single day....the gas food and travel per person just to get to the boat and back home, and you are somewhere around -200$ per hour per person. I used to do this. Our average joke when people asked us if we could make money off of our bluefin tuna trips, "we could...but we could never afford to try and make money off this." Fishing is the most expensive form of eating fish you could ever imagine. It is a hobby that has a small job component on the side
The difference between commercial and recreation: Recreation you are catching what you need for yourself and maybe a few friends Commercial you catch fish to be sold for many people.
On this outing they made roughly' $1.60/lb after costs. Doesn't sound quite right, although I'm sure it is, I'm not doubting the information but $280 (after costs) for 10 hours work split between 3 people. There has to be a better way. Maybe selling direct to restaurants and fish markets (granted you live in the right area).
If your spending 125$ a day in gas and ice you need to bring those margins closer to $0 the closer you get the more you yield pay wise $$$ find a lower weight vehicle to tow with possibly a strong inline 6 or v6 with decent towing, try to find a place that sells ice in bulk and store the leftover ice you don’t need in your own freezer 👍 it’s all about the margins
Dang. Those are slightly better than warehouse wages in a deadly industry (FedEx pays +$22 starting). Better to keep your feet on land until the fish markets value you.
This is NOT where fish in stores comes from. Fish from stores comes overwhelmingly from industrial fishing, where they emply gigantic fishing nets that catch everything including dolphins, turtles and pregnant whales.
The supermarket had Black Sea Bass for $22/lb on Sat and it looked old. slimy, red eyes, etc. Figure the average fish is around 3lb judging by the size, that's $66 each. There just isn't any way I'd pay that. They're not bad to eat but I'd just as well eat catfish from the river caught on $3 worth of chicken livers or bits of dog food.
Grocery store is expensive due to corporate profits. Fishermen, farmers, orchard owners all lose at the end. I have more in common with the producers (farmers fishermen etc) than corporate bigwigs who buy from them and sell to us.
this is why I am seriously considdering breeding certain aquatic animals, from a certain type of shellfish that is desireable both for it's meat as it's vibrant blue mother of pearl (in dutch we call it parelmoer)
The question now is, how do you setup the business so that the fishermen make more money? Can you maybe cut out the middle man and start your own distribution business so the fisherman keep 100% of the profits?
And you were not alone, that means you had to divide the earnings. You also have to pay taxes, and maintain the boat, and certainly you also would need some equipment. Plus you have to pay for the place where you keep your boat. But, at least, you have fun. I would work for free on your boat once a week in summer, but I live in London, so it won't work. :-)
I understand it’s your job, as a person who fishes recreationally it seems like out legislators have put a price on our resources that is almost laughable.
If you dont like the price of fish i would and suggest catching your own. More sustainable. And you cannot get fresher than spear and gun or a fishing rod.
Gotta be having multiple lines out there on that boat all at once in order to catch enough to be worth it. Suoer worth it though if you love eating fish.
And you wonder why there’s no fish anymore to catch. As a freshman in South Carolina, I go out in the ocean fishing quite often and Lucky to catch one keeper. I think that all fishing should be regulated the same
$28 an hour but you’re paying three guys on the boat not to mention it’s hard work.. it’s a struggle fellas. Bless you. We are all out here trying to survive 🤙
Man I’m from Tennessee so naturally i love bass fishing. And I’m pretty sure fresh water black bass witch I think is smallies large mount and spots. But I think I would be cool if they had shallow water saltwater black bass I bet that would be fun.
No, it’s not the fisherman who are winning in the equation. Is the beyond wealthy individuals who own the fishing companies. By the way, it’s also those beyond wealthy individuals who are killing our oceans!!
i get.55 cents a pound for catfish in ky...i do trotlines. and ive had bad days where i only get 80 pounds and my best day is around 500 lb. if i could only get 500 lb each day then it wouldnt be bad. but right now its a grindfest.. but im new so hopefully ill learn to do better.
We call black sea bass "greenheads" when they get as big as the one he held for the camera. Best eating little fish ever. We catch them 2 at a time. There's a limit now, but there wasn't back before 2010 or so.
My grandpa is a commercial fisherman. He catches halibut, crab, and prawn. All on his like 75 year old boat. I went with him once, and made 1000$ in 10 days, though it was supposed to be 2000, we caught less than half of what we expected to catch.
