tarkov is barely playable spaghetti code with more memory leak than a a guy with alzheimers. 16gb is fine for almost anything else barring creative workloads
If you had 64gb installed I bet you would see over 30gb used. The more installed the more is used. With 64gb installed I was seeing an easy 10+ gb used on boot up.
32 for new builds, but if you have 16 no urgent need to upgrade. For the few games that exceed 16 GB like Hogwarts I suspect the 1% lows can be fixed by lowering graphics settings.
Yup. I have an i7-14700k, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5, Samsung Pro 990 2TB SSD. As a RU-vidr, when I edit even a 30 minute video, Task Manager reports my RAM use is 13GB while PowerDirector 365 is processing that video (expected final video size 13GB, 4K 30fps). And CPU running at 20% and GPU at 40%. 32GB is more safer and future proof than 16, though it depends what programs you use.
Not to mention it can have the video processing done in under 12 minutes. My old PC (i7-6700k, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1070, I got in 2016) would take 2 hours to process that kind of video editing.
I very much appreciate you trying to control for as many of the variables possible. Some try but it seems like you have went further than most others 👍🏽
Well, first you must take out your CPU and dip it in liquid nitrogen. This will actually enhance the performance of the CPU so that you can upgrade your RAM without any bottlenecking.
I'm building a new PC and decided to get 48 gb ddr5 ram (24x2). I feel like that's the most balanced in terms of capacity and performance. The 24g sticks are single rank and can have better oc potential than dual rank 64/32x2 kits. So extra capacity with the benefits of a smaller stick. Plus, its easier to have 64gb+ total ram considering the amount of VRAM on GPUs these days (48 system plus 16+ VRAM). I also won't have to worry about performance issues due to having other applications open and be fairly future proofed. Can't wait to get my parts and build/tune it. Hey, PC Centric. For the next RAM video you mentioned, any chance you can do some comparisons between stock, XMP/Expo only, and XMP/Expo + tuned (tighter timings) gaming performance? Maybe that's a lot to ask, but it would be interesting to see the 1% low differences. P.S. - Looks like you guys left the zoo benchmark in your summary chart. It would have been nice to leave that one out as it was an outlier to get a more accurate picture. Cheers man.
If you want that kind of content just go and watch Buildzoid over at actually hardware overclocking. Basically if you’re building an AMD system, then tinkering with your ram is just a major major headache just enable Expo and leave it at that. Intel are a bit different but come with its own issues too.
No, go higher, after ram prices settle, eventually, it can be fun using Primocache to help cache all that ram as really fast external storage buffer, its quite taxing but looks cool at least.
😂 Itd be a 60 second video if he opened performance manager in every game with 64gb installed. "Is it over 32?" No: 32 is enough Yes: 40 or 64 is needed. So there ya have it, cheers! /video
I play a lot of 7 Days to Die. When you run stuff in the background and especially when you have Chrome open, the system can definitely hit 16 or even 17 GB in use. I'd gone all in with 64 GB, so it wasn't an issue, but it was a bit of a surprise as I had thought that 16 GB was fine for gaming. 32 GB is definitely the sweet spot these days.
I play that very game everyday(7 days to die) currently using 16g ram with my Lenovo Legion 5. I never thought upgrading to 32g ram had to be done but this game seems to demand a lot.
I went with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the phanteks nv7. I also went with the phanteks screen to fill in some space and the phanteks gpu vertical bracket angled back. The build is sick and I clean it monthly. I may switch the ram from 4 sticks to 2 sticks at a later time when new motherboards, new ram and the 5090 comes out. I will see when everything comes out and after reviews from the youtube tech community.
32gb is my go to, though right now I have 48gb (2x16+2x8) and I’ll admit there is zero difference I have noticed going up unless minecraft is your game of choice
What about for gaming + streaming obs and TikTok studios + music like RU-vid or Spotify + twitch website for monitoring stream all at the same time?? Please let me know
I’ve just finished a 7800X3D + RTX 4090 build and put 32gb Corsair vengeance 6000 mt/s CL30 and it just buttery smooth running cyberpunk, Hogwarts legacy an Alan Wake2 maxed out at 1440p ultrawide. I would say if you are building a new system just get the 32gb kit run it in dual channel, enable xmp/expo and it you will be just fine. Great video Marcus 👍
32GB DDR5. Especially for games which are as demanding as Microsoft Flight Simulator and Cyber Punk if you want to play those in 4k ultra with ray tracing.
Hi PC Centric I have a question How about all the tutorials on the net And especially on RU-vid To improve computer performance? All kinds of guides to change settings on a Windows computer and such called pc optinization guide etc. and use all kinds of software to improve the computer And there are many of them I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the matter Do they really help improve computer performance
Hogwarts likes 20+ gigs of ram. Plus, it seems to play better at 32 GIGS at 6000 MTs CL 30 over 64 GIGS at 5200 MTS CL 38 judging by the 2 Rigs I now own and previously owned. My old Mobo died and took out the ram, so I upgraded.
@@MonkeyMan125431 Small random stutters when something starts in the background or when windows does its check for updates, nothing big so I would go for 32 GIGs CL30 at 6000 MTs over CL38 but only if you can find the ram for a good price and it works with your motherboard.
Console vs Pc *No troubleshooting *No tinkering *No maintenance *No stutter *No crashing *No horrible ports *No cheaters *No noise *Less heat *Much less electricity usage (hundreds of $$$ in a few years) *Extreme depreciation $3000 Pc will cost less than 2000 in 2years+. Console 449 and after 4 years still £409 . **If it makes you feel better, you can replace "NO" with "Much less" Pc gamers say that games are cheaper? All I see here in UK £2-10 cheaper. And console gamers have to pay subscribsion right? You will pay for electricity much more so forget what you saved here. I almost never buy games. For the last 26 months I paid only £4 a month for Game pass Ultimate and played lots of good games for free. Now playing Diablo 4, Star Wars Jedi Survivor . Amazing value. So I would have game pass no matter what. Just these 2 games paid off all my 2years+ of game pass. PS5 better than 3060. In a few months PS5Pro will be coming out,probably will be close to 4060ti - 4070 I like to press and play and I got no time and patience to deal with all the Pc stuff. I wouldnt play console if I cant choose 60fps. All Xbox X optimized games I played have option of 60fps or 120. Things have changes since Xbox X and PS5 came out, no need for Pc.
Hey there I am upgrading my 5 2600x to 7 5800x3d On my x470 ultra gaming mobo So 4x16gb 3600hz Ram will compatible with 7 5800x3d and with x470 I have 4x16 gb 3600 hz ram with me Please answer thank you
Now, have a stream on your second monitor (or anime, movie, etc), multiple tabs open in your web browser (ouch if you are using Chrome as its ram use heavy), games downloading in the background from steam etc, while playing your game at 4K 60fps. Not to mention all the background windows OS tasks (prefetch, etc). Then come back and tell me you only need 16GB of RAM memory. 16 GB is fine if the only thing you plan on doing is game. But if you are mulittasking heavily, you will need more than 16GB to have a smooth gaming experience AND be able to multitask effectively on everything else PC. I just stick to 16GBx2 🤷♂️ always have enough headroom, just my 2cents.
There is zero point in not having at least 32 GB today. And the results were pretty much dead on to what I expected. The only reason you would actually go higher than 32 though is future proofing.
In Jan 2020, I built with 64GB never really considered less at the time. Just means I can run more software at the same time and I don't just use my PC for gaming.
I play at 1080p despite having a great set up. I have horrible eyesight, and my eyes can't tell the different that easily with a monitor-sized screen. FPS is far more important to me.
I'd like to have seen Avatar, running it on my pc, it uses all 16GB of system RAM and 18.6GB of VRAM running at 4K with unobtanium settings. Interesting video all the same. Thanks
If you build new AM5 right now slap 64GB (2x32GB) on it...always! When you upgrade AM5 to 10800x3d in 3 years you only upgrade CPU and never have to worry about your RAM till the end of the platform lifecycle. It cost 100 $ more but you will use AM5 for 5+ years (at least 2 more CPU generations 9000/10000) so the cost p.a. is laughable.
I have 16gb ram and one time accidentally downloaded 200 mods on Minecraft and my Pc would crash everytime lol. If you ever need a game to test that's a good one
I had a testbed system that couldn't run Star Citizen with 16gb. It was poky and the devs provided a warning about the memory limit. You also want to have headroom, 16gb is not good enough for 2024 and beyond. My next monster workstation will have 128gb.
At this point 32Gb is absolutely minimum. I watching this video with only 1 tab open and nothing else and of course some apps working in a background and PC use nearly 10gb of ram add a game to it and it seriously can hurt your game performance. I do have 64Gb in my PC because is necessarily. As Big Fan of Skyrim I do have have quite big mod list (3500+) and there are locations (for example outside of Whiterun) where PC while playing taking over 50Gb of ram....
@@lsik231l I think 48gb for heavy modded Skyrim is absolutely minimum. I just checked and all my mods take 565gb disc spaces…. Originally I wanted to go with 48gb because You can OC better then 64gb but is fine.I was able my from 6400Mhz 32-39-39-102 to 6800Mhz 30-30-40-40 and they are perfectly stable with Intel and Rtx.
I upgraded to 64GB of RAM from 32GB with my 5700X and here is what benches won't tell you...with 64GB of RAM thanks to Windows caching EVERYTHING I use often is preloaded into RAM so launches instantly. Browser? BAM. Music Player? BAM. Video editor? BAM. Hell when I play War Thunder with my buds I usually have to tell them what map we are getting as thanks to Windows caching I'm already picking my load out before they even get the load screen, it's just BAM and I'm in. So when my 5700X gets too long in the tooth to game I'll be going 64Gb minimum if not 128 simply because everything going BAM feels just too damn good.
To test your PC just go on beamng and turn everything all the way up. I have already filled 32Gb of RAM just by spawning 20 cars in the traffic, and I think it may be possible to max out 64 Gb
Using 32Gb @5600Mts (2x16) with a i7 13700K. Picked up another identical kit to make it 64Gb but have not got around to installing it yet. Slightly drunken purchase on eBay when no one else was bidding. Not sure I really need it.
what's always running in the background is the answer the more you have multi tasking the more you'll need for example Tech once said he ran video editing software whilst he gamed, so of course he says get 64Gb. I have 32Gb and at worst have Edge running a radio station broadcast, never fill up the RAM unless I add more and more tasks. VRAM might well be the must get 16 or more VRAM for ultra settings in the near future?
32 in total. 16 for the game, the other 16 for other apps in the bg while you game. Discord. We browser. All the launchers etc. The movie running on the 2nd screen in HDR 4K
Im going to get a new pc that with have 4 RAM slots and im just gonna eventually put 128gb there for pretty much no reason other then for shits and giggles. Maybe in the future ill learn how to utilize it. Lol
Hi bro Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16APH8 (82Y9000QUS) $899 and Lenovo LOQ 15IRX9 (83DV00FXUS) $890 Which one is better to buy in 2024. Or is here any other Gameing laptops in this price point. Please reply. Thank you 😊
So no one even mentions DDR4 anymore. We went silently from ''DDR5 doesn't matter for gaming that much just more expensive'' to everybody suddenly having it and doesn't even talk about DDR4 anymore.
Hey I'm looking into what pc I want for my bday in around 3 months but I'm really struggling, some pcs may be a scam or not as good as i think. Just by looking at your channel I know you are an expert, what fairly priced good PC should I get?
8Gb or 16Gb for League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Runescape, Roblox, Minecraft, CS:GO ... that's nearly the entire PC gaming market right there. Keep it real bro.
so if i wanna play the big games. sims ,rdr, hogwarts, spiderman, gta all together. how am i gonna be able to play all of them at once without deleting them and redownloading them.
I got say, isn’t these tests unfair? Like, one of the things that RAM do (or the only thing it does) is being able to run more stuff on the computer. With other words, if you want to play 8 games at the same time (for some reason) buy more, if you only will use like a game and discord go for less.
I've got 64gb of DDR5 with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D all I'm gonna say you go in Ryzen Master to put the CPU in game mode and everything just crashes so I'm gonna say and AMD side it doesn't really matter as it's unstable loool
2x24gb @ 8200mt is the sweet spot on my 2 dimm apex encore mobo. Some games and apps definitely benchmark linearly with faster memory speeds. Dont think there is a a difference in quantity other than my system is stable with 2x24 hynix m die vs 2x16 hynix a die.
I'm going 64gb of ram on my next build. More than enough seeing there's no advantage to having huge ram we see in some ytube shorts build aka 128gb ram builds. Yes I'm putting 64gb ram but it's a steal add it'll probably be my last pc build outside of small upgrades. All my builds I've done for my family have 32g seeing that's a sweet spot add they don't play triple A games.
and in all of your "testing" we still don't know how much ram was each game using... and how can it be that you get more fps with 64GB than with 32GB if you set it identically and if game is lets say using 12GB of ram?
When it comes to gaming, right now, in 2024, 32gb of RAM is enough for 99% of titles. That 1% usually involves modding. Like, heavily modded Skyrim SE is capable of pushing above 32gigs of RAM, Cities Skylines with its DLCs, mods and huge cites can go surprisingly north of 32gb of RAM. Then you have titles with rather problematic coding, like Escape from Tarkov, a game notorious for its memory leak, making 64gb a must if you plan on going serious with it. And lastly, there's this monstrosity - DCS World. If you plan on being competitive in this thing you DO NOT want to fire it up without _at least_ 96 gigs of RAM in your system! Not kidding here.
