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How Much Range Do You ACTUALLY Need? | Tesla Model 3 (330 miles) vs Hyundai Kona EV (258 miles) 

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This is the Hyundai Kona Electric
It’s FWD, packs a battery pack good for 258 miles, and the best part is it starts at $34,000
However, with bespoke EVs like Hyundai’s own Ioniq 5 starting at only $5,000 more and benchmark vehicles like the Tesla Model 3 to compete against, is there any room for an adapted chassis EV?
This Kona Electric comes with the new generation of Kona for 2022 and with it brings a lot of exciting options like the sporty and aggressive Kona N or on the other end of the spectrum you have this
And the cool thing about this new Kona Electric is that it starts at over $3,000 LESS than last year’s Kona EV
This 2022 Kona starts at an incredible $34,000 and that’s over $10,000 cheaper than the cheapest Model 3 you can get
AND that model 3 for all that extra money still only drives 2 wheels AND only gets you 9 more miles of range
He’s got a point, this FWD Kona is not particularly at home on wet or cold roads…which is…yanno…all of them in WI for 5 months out of the year
The immediate electric torque in this thing is sometimes a bit too much for the traction control to manage, but if you dial it back into eco mode or even better eco + then the throttle response is cut down and you do away with the grip problem
And in fairness…a Model 3 is RWD so it’s not like that’s any better
This is true, and the reality is if you don’t have the AWD system in this..even if you DO have the AWD system in this, the electric torque can unsettle the car pretty easily so it’s probably a good idea to get a nice set of snow tires for either car…
But here’s the thing matt isn’t talking about and it’s that while the base ranges for each of these cars is comparable, the Hyundai stops there and the tesla can go up to 334..
Which brings up the main question we’re answering in this video…how much range do you ACTUALLY need?
So here’s the problem with our culture and EVs. The second you talk to someone about whether or not they’d own an EV they immediately start acting as if they’re going to be picked randomly, and with no warning to participate in a cross-country rally.
This has never been the case for anyone. Ever.
If you’re going to need to venture outside of your daily or weekly routine you’ve probably known about it for at least a couple days.
Of course, we understand those people’s concerns and it’s actually less about range than it is about the uncertainty of finding a charger and it being available when you need it the 1 time you take a road trip
So the concern around how much range a car has is ACTUALLY a by-product of charging infrastructure, or lack thereof. and therein lies the real problem.
The problem is, the charging networks are not standardized which means, of course, not all cars can charge at all stations.
And not only are these chargers not standardized from a compatibility perspective, but they’re also not standardized from an output perspective
And that right there is why people are scared of EVs and keep pushing for a billion miles of range
The hard reality is that over 90% of the time you’re going to wake up, unplug your car on the way to work, drive there, maybe hit the gym, tan, laundry, and then plug in again at home.
Which means over 90% of the time you’re starting your day with a full charge and the average American lies within 30 miles of where they work so they don’t need anything more than 100 miles for that

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@dwnshft
@dwnshft 2 года назад
Special thanks to our Patrons for their support of the channel! How much range do YOU need to feel comfortable?
@jluis333
@jluis333 Год назад
Got the kona ev for 37k a year ago 2nd hand and it has been wonderful with around 300 miles of range and charge it once a week at home to get that 20-80 magic charge. But then whenever I needed to do a roadtrip for more than 200 miles/300km it was a headache because chargers are not out there. So now I took advantage of the sales on tesla (highland alert) and will be getting a M3 RWD long range for 40k. the more range the merrier. sueperchargers all over europe? insane
@Irondiesel
@Irondiesel 2 года назад
The kona base model gets 325 miles on a full charge. I have it and it's what I get every time
@professionalasseater2354
@professionalasseater2354 2 года назад
Is there something different with the US/Canadian konas? Ours get over 300 miles in the UK. Claimed range is 300 but most manage 330+
2 года назад
This is a brilliant video. My thoughts were the same with the Kona 64 in Hungary. This little beast can get you literally anywhere with even today's less developed charging network. Can't wait to get mine and see range in real life though. :)
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 2 года назад
Nice, glad you liked the video!
@RyanOttawayMartin
@RyanOttawayMartin 2 года назад
Sounds like a good situation to be in. ;)
@91ulisesflores
@91ulisesflores Год назад
450
@1drummer172
@1drummer172 2 года назад
I need 450 miles of range; that’s my standard.
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 года назад
450 miles is insane. 2022 Ford Bronco does 300 miles or so. 2022 Honda Civic can do maybe 400 miles.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 2 года назад
Would that number go down if you knew you could access a fast charger reliably at every other off ramp?
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 года назад
@@dwnshft yeah, probably so. Getting another 200 miles down the road after 15 minutes would be nice. Someone in the car always has to stop for some reason after 2-3 hours.
@1drummer172
@1drummer172 2 года назад
@@anthonyc8499 I’m retired and I make regular trips between Phoenix and Los Angeles; my 2014 Ford Escape has a 15.5 gallon tank and I easily get 450 miles to the tank. I’m not willing to purchase a new vehicle with less range. EVs are now off the table for me (range anxiety). If I purchase a new vehicle in the near term it will likely be a hybrid like the F-150 PowerBoost (700 mile range).
@1drummer172
@1drummer172 2 года назад
@@dwnshft than my 2014 Ford Escape (450+ highway miles per tank)@@dwnshft
@sketchyssk8shop
@sketchyssk8shop 2 года назад
Bigger problem is going to be when everyone has these over grown toys and you have charging lines. How bad will tempera be when it takes 45 minutes to charge each car. It's bad enough when it takes 5 to fill up a car with gas. When the power goes out you are done
@jjbarajas5341
@jjbarajas5341 2 года назад
Most people who are going to own an ev are also people that can probably charge at home most of the time. Even renters can do so, with the help of some legislation, though that kind of government support isn't available everywhere. Unlike with gas, it's not like the power grid is going to run out of electrons; there isn't an army of tanker trucks full of electricity you need to rely on for a refill. Wherever the grid is, you can install a charging point. Your local grocery store parking lot? Easy. Chargers at the gym? Totally doable. The mall? The cinema? Your local park's parking lot? Not a problem. With better and more widespread charging infrastructure, even people who live in dense housing buildings (condos, apartments) could own an ev and charge it easily. Oh, and blackouts aren't a problem either. Like with some gas stations, some charging stations can still provide energy during a blackout. Only instead of a backup generator, these stations might have solar panels, or battery storage systems in place to provide power. In fact you could use your car to power your home for a day or two if necessary, if your home didn't have solar installed already. Also you won't die of carbon monoxide poisoning from sleeping in your car, as some did from sleeping in gas cars during the tragic Texas power outage trying to keep warm. I know, who cares right? Why'd I bother writing a giant comment? I was already halfway through writing when i got bored, so might as well commit.
@sketchyssk8shop
@sketchyssk8shop 2 года назад
@@jjbarajas5341 we do not have enough power generation to support it. Even now we have issues in big cities with ac units pulling the power down. Add a few million cars and it's over. The high power chargers use the same amount of power as a neighborhood. Only reason we have electrify america is cause ve got caught cheating on emissions tests. Wait till the states figure out they lose fuel tax money. Tags will be milage based.
@muskrat3291
@muskrat3291 6 месяцев назад
You obviously have never even sat in an EV much less own one. It takes me 10 seconds to plug in at night and 10 seconds to unplug in the morning, I never have to go out of my way to go to a gas station. BTW, if you spend 10 minutes a week filling your tank that's 8 1/2 hours a year you are spending at gas stations. When road tripping I charge while on a restroom break or a meal break. When the power goes out YOU are done because those gas pumps use electricity. Yes, some have generator backups but those are few and far between. The gas station has to be pre-wired for a generator with an isolation switch, and the generator has to be commercial grade and approved. Gas vehicles are totally dependent on electricity from pumping the oil out of the ground, a single pump jack at the well uses enough electricity in one month to power an EV for 34,000 miles, to transporting and refining, and delivery. On top of that only 20% of the gas you put in your tank is used to turn the wheels. The other 80% of the gas THAT YOU PAY FOR is burned off as heat energy. My fuel cost is about 2 cents per mile home charging and averages about 8 cents per mile road tripping, and that does not take into consideration all of the free charging I get.
@sketchyssk8shop
@sketchyssk8shop 6 месяцев назад
@@muskrat3291 what are you gonna do out on a trip. Why are you pouting so much micro plastic into the waterways with your tires and what about road tax you don't pay ever. Yes I have driven one. Had it for a loaner after my wife's car was totaled. It sucked. I'll never own one.
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 года назад
If you're doing automotive journalism, you need to get a 240v outlet or wall charger. Otherwise just stop doing EV reviews. Your personal charging challenges at home without 240v completely distorts the normal EV ownership experience and you just make yourself look stupid and give an inaccurate view of life with that week's EV.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 2 года назад
The point of the story was about the existing charging network. Not sure how you missed the point so badly🤷‍♂️
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 года назад
@@dwnshft guess I was totally off, sorry.
@snapunderst33r
@snapunderst33r 2 года назад
@Downshift will get a 240v outlet as soon as you get a profile pic of a 240v outlet….. Mister 120v outlet profile pic!
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 2 года назад
@@snapunderst33r 14-30, 6-50, or 14-50?
@snapunderst33r
@snapunderst33r 2 года назад
@@anthonyc8499 just two of your profile pics in series will do fine 👍
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