How NOT to Create a Webtoon or Manga 

but that is what the old dudes in ancient greece did

that harem anime parody song is pure GOLD

About the first point that you've made this is one of the most important lessons that you need to understand, "art isn't the the literal embodiment of your thoughts and emotions, it's a language you *USE* to represent them". or to simplify it, your art is NOT literally you. not understanding this will lead you to a lot of confusion and a very unhealthy sense of perfectionism, which may lead you to the end of your short art journey. I mean, for example you didn't even release your first story. For me, it was such a harsh truth to internalize, but I'm happy that I moved forward from it.

I find that focusing on how characters react to situations makes the writing process a whole lot easier. Don't think things like "this character has to do this thing". Instead, think "how would this character react to this and where would that lead them". You should also constantly remind yourself what the story is really about. Why are you telling it in the first place?

I loved the harem song 😂😂 thank you for sharing your experience with comic creation proces with us. I am starting to publish my first webtoon in December AND this video helped and reconfirmed to me what I need to keep in mind ❤️ thank you 🙏

This song is hilarious. 😆😆😆

While I already knew the things you talked about in this video, I still appreciate that you made it. It's one thing to repeatedly hear the same mantras about making comics, but it really puts it into perspective when you add your own personal experience to reinforce them. I think people focus way too much on "how to succeed", instead of learning "how not to fail" (and this doesn't apply only to making art). Everybody wants to know the secret formula to success, but nobody wants to hear the failure stories of people just like them, with the same grand ambitions and revolutionary ideas. Anyway, I know that your videos don't get many views, so you might feel like you're making them for nobody. But you took part in saving the world from seeing at least one more poorly thought out comic story.

that song was insane LMAOOOO

i wasnt expecting the singing break 😭

Im not the greatest at drawing, but i know i can pump out a couple pages a day if i got back on track. what matters to me when creating a story, is to make sure it has a strong and fun concept. One punch man's author isn't the greatest at drawing (talking about One, not Murata, obviously) , but it got picked up because of the awesome concept that was never really done before. Its something ive been studying as an art directior student

That little harem song has gotten you one new subscribber here. It's priceless! 🤣

aww, i couldn't clip the harem song 😔 tho ngl there's a lot of good advice here, having a theme has def helped me with my stories and having an ending in mind has helped me keep motivation for things

3:05 To be honest, I quite liked the pages, to the point I'd like to read more. Especially the way the girl's face contorts in three sequential panels; the emotion is clear. It's certainly a great first attempt.

I made some webcomic pages a while ago. They certainly look ... interesting, but I wanted to just try my hands at the manga making process. Still want to make a (proper) manga at some point, so this is really useful. Edit: Loved the song

When I encountered the issue of philosophy while working on games, I burned out on it; you can spend endless amounts of time on technology as a way of running away from making the game cohere. Gradually I figured out a teachable strategy, which is to draw up the different elements on a Venn diagram. The diagram has the technical stuff of "what the work needs to have in it to be a finished piece of writing, visuals, gameplay, etc." In the middle, it all overlaps. For the work to make sense, the overlap has to involve something principled in nature. If there is a contradiction in the diagram it turns into a blocking issue with the details. Every good story, every popular game can be mapped out on a diagram this way: Mario is "about running and jumping" because every part of the design engages with those things. If you know what's being said, you don't need a lot of scope in the work - that just reflects how much you want to try expanding the diagram to cover more things in more detail. The five-page fan comic I've been working on lately has moved very slowly, in part because I'm pushing up my drawing standards as I go along, but also because I'm too aware of this stuff.

In short, making comics/manga/webtoons is hard :') However, it's really worth it! I've made some short comics in the past and then did a long form one that I posted online (on DA). I never finished it partly due to life issues but some of the things mentioned here affected it was well. Something that I found helpful and may be helpful to others is to learn writing. Not only writing for comics/manga, but writing in general. There is a lot of info on here, as well, so you don't actually need to pay anything to get started. General info for writing is completely transferable to this medium, so a lot of their methods will be really useful. Another thing that you may find useful is making shorter stories before jumping onto larger ones. That's something that I'm going to go back into as well. Not only because it will give you a better idea of what this process entails and how to wrap up a story, but having a finished piece of work will give you a boost unlike any other :)

Thanks man for making this video! I'm thinking of starting on a manga but I want to make sure I know what not to do. This was so helpful!!

Very useful, and to unexpectedly hear a really sweet voice singing a harem song haha 10/10 You inspired me to start working on my webtoon projects again!

your art is really good!!

Im so glad I found your channel, your lovely song made me glad I hit subscribe :D

Very valuable insights. Thank you for sharing your experience for free.

thank you for this introspective video. i think i know what i must do : )

yeah I guess youd have to be ridiculously good at storytelling to get washing dishes to even work in a battle shonen genre lol. but the idea is way fun. I washed dishes at places too and I'm just happy you got your idea on paper bc I would ruminate on mine in the sanitizer sink and forget by the time I got home haha

damn dude, this vid is so seriously sincere and i do feel like im genuinely gonna remember this the day i also start my own series. i love videos that provide insight from experience. love your vid, man

This was the most insightful video on comic making I’ve seen so far! Definitely underrated! I relate a lot to your personal journey, and it mimics my own in regards to storytelling. I read Suds right after watching this video, and I actually really liked it! I think maybe the only issue was the pacing/character development- it felt a bit inconsistent at times- but it was super cute overall! The harem song was amazing though lol 😂

VERY HELPFUL!!!

You deserve more subs, my lad :D

I really like your suds idea! I imagine that to have it be like Food Wars it can be something ridiculously insular, like MC ie "New Guy" finds out that Dishwashing is like a Sport among the other dishwashers at his workplace. He's just trying to keep his head down, but working as a Dishwasher *sucks* and there's this whole elusive "Dishwasher of the Month" title and he thinks that maybe he'd move up to Line cook if he gets Dishwasher of the Month. So he decides to compete. Throw in a girl dishwasher, a group of goofy friends and a really heart wrenching reason why MC is a dishwasher in the first place and you got yourself a manga!

I'm so happy I found your channel hahahaha

Thanks for the anime recommendations dude

This video actually taught me a lot. I started two web comics before this, and well I didn’t get past 5 pages for nether of them, as I hadn’t done any planning, and even if there is planning , they were too vague and I didn’t know how to end the story, I had all this flashy concepts but no link, so I failed. But now I’m on my way to create a hopefully successful manga series >:)

The song just kept going 😂😂 very informative

Bro you sound just like Sam does art! Also banger video! ❤

love the random song in the middle XD

the advice here is really awesome and helpful! thanks a lot :D I was thinking maybe a cool theme for your story about the dishwashers could lead to the dilemma of choosing to do something you love between being with someone you love, like he loves his job as a dishwasher, but in order to talk to the waitress he has to have a different occupation which leads him to overcome challenges as he decides what he wants best, and learn new things about himself. In the end, he could learn instead of picking and choosing, he could find a way to both pursue what he loves and be with who he loves or something in that manner.

1:09 ah a man of culture I see. I’m something of a failure myself

kokoro connect, now thats a name i havent heard in a long time. 10:42 Lol ive never seen a spontaneous music number in an art video before 😂 you slandered my boy ranma though

nice song!

Goddamn, the commitment to the harem anime song was impressive. He's earned my respect!

Harmen Anime parody song made me subscribe this is WAYY too good

Thank you so much❤❤❤❤

your SUDS comic kinda sound like why i dropped a comic of my own: didn't have a cohesive theme to tell, ends up being a bunch of scenes i likedlikedn to draw. granted i did started my comic for the purpose of drawing scenes that i want to draw, back then i put story 2nd and art 1st. i know better now 😅 and now that i discontinued it I'm planning a revamp of it by adding some substance to the story & themes, throwing meat to the stew iykwim. i like my comic's concept so I'm not trashing it for a new one, that'll just be more work for me haha 😅 your advice is good btw! those were also the lessons i learned from my own trial & errors.

bro, goodjoib on the song

The song in the middle is great. I'd read TF out of a dishwashing story. They're commonplace IRL, but I've only read one thing about one. ONE.

I wanted to give advice on storywriting since I feel like I've improved a lot in that field and also share the same experience as you do, but I haven't gotten to a point where I could find the time to make and publish my own story, so until I actually have the commitment and confidence to publish my first manga, I'll just save it. I'll be back once I finally make a concrete progress to back up my advice. Edit: One tiny advice that I can give without feeling guilty, though, is character building. Understand the difference between a three-dimensional character and a two-dimensional character, pretend like you're the character you're writing on and think of what you'd do if you were them.

the vsauce music killed me. i love this video so much XD

Imma need a separate video for that song😂

14:11 and 21:49 Exactly, a screenplay must start out as an ending and a logline before expanding it into a manuscript worth illustrating

No idea how you popped up in my recs, but thank you, you're cool. I want to have a webcomic myself and I'm the type of person who lays out EVERYTHING and plans out all they can before starting to do the job, so I kinda can't fall due to all the planning or understanding problems (like not able to decide how I want my story to look like). But. Buuuut there must be a lot of mistakes I can't predict before I get into the work. Because of that, I want to step on the mine field with a small project, setting aside the magnum opus that lives in my head rent free for more than three years now. And I can't come up with any ideas. I can't think of anything. I'm just not inspired, I love the project that is too big to pull off yet, but I really don't want it to fail. Life is tough 🤧

Honestly, that song is the reason why I avoid harem like a plague, not only do I hate love triangles, but these anime have like the dumbest premisses I've ever seen.

The harem song!!!😂😂😂😂

The fact I watch every single one of them inside of the song

you can definitely see the improvement you've made over time. The scrubs idea sounds great. Also maybe you should have an editor help with problems you have. I've started to help people with their stories and give them advice on what they should consider, add, or change. I mention the confusing parts and they try to find a way to fix it. Editors are just readers who help you get the vision that is in your head onto paper to make others understand the story as you do. if you don't have anyone in mind to help I don't mind being the one to help you. I write scripts and draw so I know more than the basic knowledge of manga making because I also want to be a mangaka. I'm currently helping about 4 different people at the moment with their stories while working on mine. I see it as practice so I'm doing it for free because I feel like it will give me a better understanding of writing.

I went through a similar process with my first comic back in 2018/2019. I wanted to make a one shot in the last month of summer in 2018 (or was it 2017?) and it somehow ended up being 72 pages. It didn't take me until 2019 to "finish" the storyboards of it and finish drawing 1/3 of it before giving up and just deciding to release it all on tapas. Since then, I haven't made a comic nor have I drawn much aside from character sheets that I used to post on twitter.

Can’t lie, that song got you a sub ma boy, 🤣.

Im currently working on a comic. I've been working on it for 2 close to 3 years and im not even done with the first chapter. I've been writing the ideas, dialogue, backstory, characters and designs. Its taking longer than it would though if I didn't procrastinate, plus I'm taking time on it so I don't have to rush (I have pretty much the whole story figured out, even the ending, and its really long)

taking notes as im currently still scripting........

are you doing a voice impression of Samdoesarts? you sound identical

Okay I have a super backwards question: You mentioned gaining traction and a readership being one of those things that should have kept you inspired to keep working but.... do you have any advice for when traction almost... overwhelms you from working on your project?

OMG! Otome Game no Hametsu Flag Shika Nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei Shiteshimatta... is my favorite!!!!!

lmao, Eat Bulaga reference XD

where do i read ur current manga?

Bro i found this on my recommended and i thought “oh its gonna be a cute anime girl talking abt webtoon” but them i get surprised when its a deep voice 👩🏻‍🦲 No hate tho

No no no I made like 3 pages of like 3 different comics when I was early in high school

Ok hi I’m a new RU-vidr and I’m trying to make my own manga and potentially own show in the future but in the mean time I post everything on RU-vid but all of my drawing are on paper so what devises and apps do you use to draw your manga/comics and how you post them please I’m trying to make my own series

whats the brush?

I'm not exactly great at any of this, I have a webtoon on canvas, but its paced weird and stuff, but I do write the dialogue before I start even making the separate frames

Where can I read Suds? It looks really interesting

First of all, all web and manga creators or komic, should write how to read their work, because i always don't know, and get annoyed while reading the first chapter and don't know how to read it, becouse both ways are good or bad xddd

I feel awful….but yeah oh god that first comic was AWFUL

Hey, I’m trying to find a way to publish my own comic on canvas but I can’t figure out how to publish using iPad. Can anybody please help😭😭IVE BEEN STUCK FOR TOO LONG.

Lol

great video, very helpful (๑•̀ㅂ•́)و✧

just make something episodic bro