I used to be a puker. I was told it was my expelling water because my PH was off dramatically. Started taking salt tablets to balance that out, seems to be effective.
Hi. Sorry about the difficulties you both experienced. Just glad you made it back without any serious physical injuries. I really like your channel and the way you film and narrate. I'm impressed with how you worked through all the challenges and finished. God Bless for your safety and comfort.
I did Bright Angel Trailhead rim to the river (pipe beach) yesterday here in mid March, and back up bright Angel to the rim. It about kilked me. My knee started hurting about 4 miles in/down and got worse and worse. I made through inching along the final miles. Seemed to go on forever. I learned something about myself though yesterday, i’m one out of shape fat bastard. You guys are amazing and just trying a rim to rim to rim is insane. I was thinking about you and your channel yesterday trying to find inspiration and dig deep for purchase. Kudos to you guys for doing amazing things and posting amazing videos.
I just finished Bright Angel to North Rim to Bright Angel last Friday. I appreciate the video and it's honesty. I didn't hurl, but had nausea much of the day. Epic!!!
Hahaha! I mean, my deepest sympathy! Oh how this reminds me of our first time doing R2R2R. We started out with a 12 hour goal, finished in 17+ in a snowstorm, got back to Grand Canyon Village, and ate frozen burritos at the liquor store because nothing else was open anywhere.
I think "people do it all the time" is a bit of an overstatement, I don't know how many people do it all in one day or actually do rim to rim to rim at all. Single rim to rim in a day is not even THAT common, although obviously you guys did that without too much trouble. I guess it depends what circles you're in though. I'm sure a decent number of ultra runners have done it, but in terms of absolute numbers I doubt more than like 10-20 people do a one shot r2r2r in any given year. Blown away that you managed this at all, but makes me feel a little less bad about myself that it at least was hard.
twice a year (once in early May and once in October) people attempt/complete the R2R2R. THe first year I did it there were about 20 people starting about the same time I did. The second time I did it therrre was a group of ultra runners that crushed it in about 10-12 hours. May/OCtober are optimal because there is typically little/no snow and temperatures are less brutal.
Wonderful share! Your r2r2r achievement was amazing! Seriously, that was quite impressive! That said, to significantly reduce and hopefully avoid future issues of liver-related dehydration (and depleted potassium and electrolyte storage) which is probably what you were experiencing as evident by the severe vomiting on the return leg of your hike, you might want to do some research on the benefits of eating fresh fruits, celery, coconut water, melon, lemon water, and other immediate, bio-available, hydrators to acquire and maintain the correct type of hydration and fuel for your liver as a regular part of your day to day diet. Be safe!
My brother always likes to say: "Mineralization before hydration." Meaning get 'em before you even start hiking/running. I'd be eating a lot of bananas and apples in the days leading up to something like this. If you get "low" you can drink all the water you want and it's not really going to help you.
Great advice. I have not found in a lifetime of outdoor adventuring that there is a better way to stay properly mineralized and hydrated during severe physical effort than to eat and drink fruits and vegetables in various forms, both solid and liquid. Just my personal experience; no "one size fits all," I know.
I had a similar experience in the canyon...all the puking. Common theme for me. I get called "Danny" by my running friends. Still trying to get it figured out but it's always nice to know I'm in good company.
You guys are a trip, so many incredible feats! I assume that these are mostly weekend trips, and I always picture you back at work Monday morning and life goes on. You put the Warrior into Weekend Warrior!
OH MAN! I did it in reverse of your direction three years ago and I fee like I still haven't recovered! I don't know why the R2R2R is so brutal like you said, but for some reason (probably the heat/sun) it really decimates the body.
Dan, thanks for the trail maintenance. We saw your post on this R2R2R video and thought you might like our recent attempt at this goal..... If you watch this, bear in mind we would not consider ourselves ultra runners. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9hMyVv7ag_E.html
6:30 When you feel like this (cottonmouth no matter how much water you drink) my experience has shown me that it's time to load up on electrolytes! I like bringing one of those 99¢ table salt dispensers but thats just me.
What was your total time? R2R2R is brutal no matter what. We did it last November and are planning it again in March. Something about the canyon is different - where the only way out is up. Mountains at least you can turn back and typically it gets easier.
Did it twice before, one time with backpack in the winter(Christmas) in two hand half days. Second time in 15 hours in April. I think weather is the key, find a cool or light raining day it’s going to be much easier.
It's fantastic running in the treed area going east on the south rim before and after Kaibab trailhead. Like firmly packed talcum powder, with no underbrush and totally free jumps over downed trees - like floating - you're running but there's no impact. Instead, the soles of your feet are massaged as if by a wizard Tibetan podiatrist / therapist.
Bravo 👏🏽 Both & Thank God You Both Are Alive. What A Story To Tell & Live!😲😲🙀😱. The last Fella looks so thin & unhealthy I hope 🤞 that your Both Ok 👍🏼.
I stumbled upon this because 5 of us are doing a rim to rim to rim this upcoming May ... difference is that we are hiking it over a period of 2 days, staying at each rim at a hotel. After my share of adventure mishaps in the past, it is usually from poor planning, which is really the only thing that caused this rim to rim to rim run to go wrong. Hydration (1 - 1.5 liters carrying in lightweight smart bottles - you got that right in the front strap pockets), electrolyte packs, fast simple powdered carbs, UL 3 liter backpack, buff to wet for cooling, light brimmed hat, sunglasses, a headlamp, sunscreen, cellphone for the camera and video, Garmin inreach for satelite communication that is seamless with cell phones, and a lightweight 3 liter backpack are all a marathoner needs. Plenty of purified water sources along the way to fill the bottles in each front pocket shoulder strap. You just have to remember where they are - Manzilla, Cotttonwood, Phantom Ranch, several places along Bright Angel Trail, and Grand Canyon South Rim Village are the water sources. No water on South Kaibab, but no need if descending. Getting from Bright Angel trailhead at south rim over to South Kaibab trailhead on south rim is easy with shuttles during the day. We leave before sunrise, so we will have to get a ride from a nice hotel clerk person or walk it; so we chose most eastern hotel on south rim. And getting an early start before the sun comes up so that time well below the rim is avoided between 11 AM and 3 PM. Temps can increase 5 degrees with each 1000 feet elevation loss at this place. Cooling off with not just drinking cold water, but immersing and then using a wet buff, will be important. Still, you guys battled, even though you put yourselves behind the eight ball early and often.
Went on a rim to rim using Kaibab and Bright Angel and an overnight at the Ranch as a 60 yo. Was at least 20 pounds too heavy, so the downhill was a disaster on my quads. Uphill was slow due to cardio but better. Also kept up the sugar high on the way back.
I did the rim to rim with my father and uncle when I was 9 years old. We camped by Phantom Ranch before we went up the south rim the next day. A friend of my uncle drove from the north rim to the south rim to pick us up. This was in 1964 and the guy who drove agreed to do the drive because he wanted to spend a day in Glen Canyon before it was filled up with water. In retrospect we should have gone to Glen Canyon. We could have done a rim to rim anytime, but Glen Canyon is gone forever.
Frank, we saw your post on this R2R2R video and thought you might like our recent attempt at this goal..... If you watch this, bear in mind we would not consider ourselves ultra runners. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9hMyVv7ag_E.html
Danny! I just did this hike the last few days! Looks like I was there a couple days after you. It was beautiful! You go hard! We did it over 4 days total. I love you on News AF and often listen to you on runs/hikes. I had no idea you went so hard with this stuff. I can’t wait to check out the rest of the videos.
Such an interesting and appropriately titled video! You guys are so strong, smart, and dumb! That's dedication to show yourself throwing up! You're right, though, one was enough. We didn't need to see the others. Yes, you took the wrong trail up. Now you know. I hope your next video of the Grand Canyon will be more about the canyon and less about suffering. (That's wishing you well, not complaining.) Thanks for the video!
I'm glad that you guys are in some kind of decent shape. I won't put a thumbs down on it but this is the kind of moronic attitude that has a lot of newbees thinking that every hike that is well marked, is a walk in the park. Search and Rescue (I'm very familiar with it) very much dislikes this type of attitude.
I threw up a few times on a short hike there,but made sure I had loads of electrolytes and food when I attempted the r to r to r this August.Succeeded in the heat,but suffered due to ill fitting shoes,so I’ll be doing the hike/run again with better footwear,and slashing a chunk of time off 👍
A buddy of mine nearly died to the R to R to R. Luckily he was found by a group of day hikers on a church outing that carried him out. It is not even remotely casual.
As much as I'd like to do a R2R2R, I certainly wouldn't try it in a single day! Would rather take a couple of days and enjoy what I'm seeing... Could've done without seeing ya puke, but you caught me by surprise! :-P
Hey, I've been following you guys for a couple years now. I now live right outside of Zion. If you are ever in the area and wanting to go on a trail run (shorter 5-10 miles), I'd love to run with you guys.
Danny, your channel literally motivated me to go out there and start hiking. I did the Bright Angel to South KABOB (lol) trail the other day in 7 hours and 43 minutes. First ever hiking experience, unbelievably sore as I clocked in 24 miles. I will also say is that Grand Canyon national park has some of the worst directions. I got absolutely lost when I was at the top trying to find the trail heads and shuttles to get back to my car! VERY STUPID!
@@phin422 Haha yeah I like to challenge myself and sometimes I go overboard. I'm in great shape, thankfully, but I was sore for a good week after hiking that trail. HIGHLY RECOMMEND! Just don't try running it like I did haha
Tony, we saw your post on this R2R2R video and thought you might like our recent attempt at this goal..... If you watch this, bear in mind we would not consider ourselves ultra runners. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9hMyVv7ag_E.html
Fact: Only 1% of Grand Canyon visitors actually hike to the floor and back let alone rim-to-rim-to-rim. You said you felt 10 pounds lighter -- but at the very end it looked like you had just came off a 30-day water only diet. Kudos for slogging it out.