How NOT to Run T0 and T1 Abyss - EVE Online Corvette to Cynabal Challenge - Ep 58 

Yeah.. " I am a little worried about the kikimora.." and then focuses the damavik.^^

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Haha, yeah there's was definitely some misplaced confidence there! If I recall correctly, my previous experience with Abyssals was running a few T1s in a Wolf way back in like 2020 and I remember them being pretty easy, so I'd definitely been thinking that a Thrasher would be able to at least get to T2 before it crashed and burned. But that Wolf was with a full T2 fit and max skills, of course. Also, I may just be completely misremembering! I do kinda love stumbling my way through content and learning by failing though.

@@tabarnoucheinterplanetary wolf also has t2 resists and a smaller sig than the the thrasher. I've head of people Triple-boxing hawks and retribution for T5/6. So those AFs are no joke when it comes to running abyssals.

you're right but t0 in a frig will also cost him 3 times the filaments.

Haha fair. I usually do leave captions up much longer, but I occasionally choose to flash up easter egg or minor spoiler captions (like this one) for just a fraction of a second as a sort of "if you really want to know, it's here for you." If the consensus is that this is more annoying than cute, I'll stop doing it.

Don't tell me there are easter eggs I'll be forever pouring over them to find any!

@@lawbringer79 haha

It's on the list of options. But 0.1 clones are actually easier for us to kill than 0.2 clones. And, remember, the tags are only worth 3m isk to us.

​@@tabarnoucheinterplanetary yeah, but thats still what, 6 mil per kill?

Yeah, it's a real possibility. Will take some experimentation though to figure out if warping belt to belt system to system looking for clones is actually better isk/hr for Bill's skills/fits than just clearing belts and taking the clones when they come.

Good idea! And yeah npc sell and buy orders are the only ones allowed.

> But base on your restriction on market, Abyssal is not ideal. This is certainly the conclusion I've come to! But, despite my many years in the game, I had almost no experience with the Abyss, so I figured it was worth a try.

I think rolling abyssal Mods could also be a possibility to get some better than meta modules. But yeah I think unless you get frigates to run to which would net you about 2 Million isk per run and should sustain filaments if you can run all 5 types I dont think it works with your restrictions

I think if you can run all 5 types you can about sustain t0.

@@dominik1993sagner Hmm i got curious. So i decided to do some testing: Test info: My main is in alpha state atm. So i used him and he got max alpha skills. (No implants or boosters used) Only counted tranquil filaments. Calm filaments are not included in the count. Run timers are rounded to every half min. 1,9mil 6min 4 tranquil filaments 1,5m 4min 5 fil 1,7m 6min 6 fil 1,7m 5,5min 3 fil 2m 6min 6 fil 1,7m 12min 6 fil (My hobs had tracking problems agents a skybraker in a Firestorm and i got down to 60% hull) 1,7m 12min 4 fil (Tried to do a dark. The drones got massive tracking problems here as expected) It might actually be enough to only run 4 of the 5. I would skip dark and only run firestorm when needed. If we assume about 10 min downtime for repair and re-entry cooldown. And an average run income of 1,7mil and average speed of 6 min a run, then you could make about 14,1mil an hour. Here is the fit i used: [Tristan, Alpha T0 Abyss] IFFA Compact Damage Control Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender Compact Multispectrum Shield Hardener 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I 125mm Gatling AutoCannon I Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Acolyte I x5 Hobgoblin I x3 EMP S x1400

"Rifter"/> "Multispectrum Energized Membrane II" slot="low slot 0"/> "Gyrostabilizer II" slot="low slot 1"/> "Small Armor Repairer II" slot="low slot 2"/> "Explosive Coating II" slot="low slot 3"/> "Stasis Webifier II" slot="med slot 0"/> "Small Cap Battery II" slot="med slot 1"/> "1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner" slot="med slot 2"/> "200mm AutoCannon II" slot="hi slot 0"/> "200mm AutoCannon II" slot="hi slot 1"/> "200mm AutoCannon II" slot="hi slot 2"/> "Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I" slot="rig slot 0"/> "Small Explosive Armor Reinforcer I" slot="rig slot 1"/> "Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I" slot="rig slot 2"/>

I struggle to see how 60m could be possible. I only ran the one T0 and the 1.3m loot I got may have been below average but, from what I've seen, the average loot from a T0 site is like 3m or 4m. How many filaments are you running per hour? I have trouble imagining even the most optimized build can run them (and collect all loot) in less than 5 minutes. Not that this would be relevant to me anyhow. The challenge rules cuts my loot even further since I can't sell the Isogen/Condensate. I also have no reliable source for the hundreds of filaments this grind would run through.

You only make about 2 to 2.5 Mil per run in T0 with Frigate (gives you largest loot possible). With sub 5 mins per run, You only be able to make 20mil to 25 mil if you are really lucky. There is dead time about 30 sec between open new abyssal gate. So it is really hard to run more than 10 times per hour. Lastly, 20-25 mil isk is bases on 100% market participation. If you run T1 with frigate, you make 50-60 mil per hr but that requires sell everything on market or by contract (for BPCs). Also, T1 normally runs with Gurista Worm, T2 assault frigate or bigger ships (t2 or higher). I have not seen successful T1 run with T1 Destroyer or Cruiser with consistency. But if you run with bigger ship, loot is not as big as with Frigate and won't make 50-60 Mil per hour.

@@Midnight_Cereal-x9u Good point, 50 mill is selling everything, especially the zero point condensate. just libraries you will probably be at 10-15 mill per hour. You can trade all of the mats to your main for extra cash.

@@tabarnoucheinterplanetary average run is between 3.5 mins and 5 mins. I usually manage 12 per hour if I get lucky with spawns I have gotten 16 once. it's not really that much fun though

Doesn't need either if you have the right fit and ship. Worms and Gilas have a field day of it among others, but it is true that abyssals are really restrictive in what can be flown in there at a given tier. I actually get alot of my enjoyment from bringing weird ships in tiers where they shouldn't be, (I solo Svipul in T2 more than anything else, under 200M, 30-40M/h). Not an area you can improvise too much.

Do you even know what this series is? It's not about making isk at all.

Also there is no such thing as nullsec belts anymore 😂 btw