How old is the ZODIAC? | The Historical Evidence 

I'm a ♌, down to the extra gravity that bears down on my spinal column, he mentions the cosmic hunt, but modern Astrology is so accurate, you should even consider that Leo's spend their maturnal months in September, thus shaping us even more by the seasons, skeptical therefore more logical than non leos? Logic is intentful, the inhabitants knew the shape of the cities pathways relative to the stars, but when is key here: the painting was commissioned when they saw a link, during king Arthur age, but all roadways/pathways do that is the logical fallacy at hand, it reflects a logical understanding of reality, and human nature, but proves nothing new about anthropology let alone Astrology The logical fallacy that the zodiac was random, based on "subliminal will" of early stone age man, seems to be underlying the viewpoints of modern humans, that is most offensive, the cosmic hunt the vid author points out is most logical explanation of the entire mystery

So you believe astrology at the same time you reject it🙄

I don't believe in astrology, either. But them I am Aquarius and Aquarians are too intelligent to believe in astrology and _Woo!_ {:-:-:}

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Remember that old sci fi movie, Close Encounters of The Third Kind? All over the world, a series of tones and colors were being - copied around the world? In the movie it was aliens, but let's say a solar maximum of extreme output from the sun, created Aurora Borealis - but huge scale that was observed simultaneously across the planet by various "Priest Class" and recorded on animal hides, cave walls, land formation?

Be advised, don't follow that line ... it is very addictive. I fell into the trap when I looked into sites dealing with ancient constructions. We all accept them because they are there but few ask "How the heck did they DO that?" ... and such answers as we are given often make no sense at all.

Myths

Dammit ... I likes me miffs ... I read 'Exploration Fawcett' quite some decades ago (don't ask) and was hooked by the unasked questions; and by the few bones that Fawcett tossed our way. I'm still ravenous, still gnawing bones, my empty-bone pile is now massive - and all I have is ever more questions and a depleting store of years.

@@johnhough7738 There is some truth to these. More truth here than in Christianity or Islam or any other Abrahamic religions.

Why single out 'Abrahamic'? To me all religions (that I know of) are simply con-games to separate the uncritical/and or uneducated from their funds. I'll cheerfully debate this with anyone that doesn't (it means: does NOT) refer me to their 'holy' book. Brrrrr ... just too many of 'em.@@percubit10

Oh, did you know that for example the city of Troy was a popular history myth ?? Yes that's right, .... until someone actually FOUND that city !!!! So myth are in (lots of) cases, backed my a true moment or event in history. People that say that one thing IS OR ISN'T a MYTH, is actually , in many cases, taking you for a ride

I'm a Vertigo.

@@bozo5632 you win 😂😂😂

I'm a Lego lion.

@@skipinkoreaable good to see that this video continues to attract attention!

@@chikentori Yes. I'm new to this channel and this video. Maybe the algorithm is starting to recommend the channel. It certainly is a fascinating video.

Thanks. I have only done it with a few videos so far, but I am working on it.

Funny that, last year at this time I was a subscriber to Uncharted X, Brien Forster, Ancient Architects, etc... Now I’m subscribed to this channel, Sacred Geometry Decoded, Stefan Milo, Science Against Myths & Raven’s channel. How times change for us “truth seekers”.

It's great to hear that listening to both sides has been of benefit to you!

@@WorldofAntiquity I too was asking the questions a lot of them were asking, you and your fellow academics answered those questions with a lot of detail and references. Thanks! It’s good to hear the truth. Funny that those other “truth seekers” haven’t followed down the same path.

@@AdvancedLiving This is the difference between the truth seekers who adapt and change as they see the evidence emerging and the cult followers who dismiss evidence and logic and still worship Brien and Ben.

Wonder if it is older than The Younger Dryas Event? Before the end of the last Ice Age, England was a mountain range overlooking a valley extending to the French coast which would have been a elevated platue

@@insightfulcarrier The area was only a few tens of miles from the ice sheet, it was on the northern edge of the Mammoth steppe or tundra. During summer it would have been marginally habitable for hunters following animals migrating north however most of the year it would have been frozen and under snow.

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Ha thanks. I like the pun!

Interesting. Good to know!

Okay. I give up. "Wet blanket man"?

wet blanket = noun, Synonyms of wet blanket : one that quenches or dampens enthusiasm or pleasure. Eg: We were all having a good time believing in fairy tales of Atlantis until the wet blanket man from World Of Antiquity said it never happened.

I have no problems with what other people believe. To whatever degrees suits them they've formed conclusions from their researches (okay, their inputs) and seem happy knowing what they know; however rational or otherwise. This is one reason why I rarely debate religion/s ...@@ashesblues1097

Thanks and welcome!

I only saw one image, the one with a man next to a bull with a bird at his feet, if the Bull is Taurus, the man is Orion, the bird at his feet would be Lepus the rabbit, which was a Rooster first, the problem is, Orion's Sword is pointing the wrong direction, and the bird is on the wrong side of Orion. I know this are as being "The Silver Gate of Man", between Gemini and Taurus, Orion stands in the center. We have "The Golden Gate of the Gods', behind Sagittarius. Did you know, if you play the words "Say There Is A Guest" in reverse, you can hear it echo "Sagittarius", in ancient times known as Pabilsag, his name means "Chief Ancestor", the father of a dying and rising god known as Damu, which has the meaning of "Relative". Scorpio is hard to echo, but I think it is "Wise Quotes", Scorpio is part of the Golden Gate, as well a Ophiuchus, whose echo is "Seek Reefer", LOL, which aids in your "Wise Quotes". The Silver gate speaks too,and their echoes reveal that this is a "Gate". Play the words "Say Oath--They All Rule--Beyond The Mist". Orion's Sword, pointing at the Bull, it speaks too, Hatysa is the star at it's tip, it means "Slaughter", but in Hebrew, you read read right to left, 'yasa' means "Savior", 'hata' means "to sin", meaning "Savior of Sinners". Hiding the word Hatysa is Haya, meaning "Grain/Seed", like that of a Man, Haya is the God of Scribes, guess what, he is also a Door-Keeper, can you can that a gate, and it is the Scribes that write the Wise Quotes we read to day, and if you play Hatysa in reverse, you hear "iosa", which seems to be another way of spelling Jesus, and that word is associated with meaning "Healer", which brings you back to Damu, which is a healer too. I've read where they said Jesus is "The Lion", in the zodiac, that would be Urgula, we call Leo the Lion, 'ur' means Dog, Gula was the mother of Damu, the Dog headed goddess Bau-Gula. Now play "Way--I'll Open It--So They Go--See God", in reverse, they echo "August--Regulus--Denebola-Leo". If you didn't know, Regulus is the Heart, Denebola is the tip of the tail, an odd fact, when the Heart of the Lioness tell her its time to hunt, she uses the tip of her tail to communicate with the others on the hunt. In ancient art, it shows a Goddess riding a Lion, must be Virgo, Latin meaning "virgin", a word that hides Man/Woman, in Latin, 'vir' means Man, in Greek, 'gyne' (gin) means Woman, playing the words "Boy/Girl" in reverse will echo "Virgo". Orion is seen battling the bull Taurus, 7 stars giving Orion his hourglass shape, Hatysa is the 8th brightest, but that is his seed, in Latin, 'septem' means Seven, where we get "September", which has an echo "Her Mithras", the "Gohatya" means "Cow Slaughter". In mythology, Seth threw the man part of Osiris into the marsh, where a upon our Southern Fish ate it, found at the foot of Aquarius, known as The Great One Ea, (Enki). Enki is Wise, if you play the words "Say You're Well Taught" in reverse, it echoes "Aquarius", and the word "Ur" also means Wolf, and "Thou Am Wolf" will echo "Fomalhaut" the mouth of the Southern Fish. The Wolf headed son of Seth was known as Wepwawet, the 7 stars of the Little Dipper, who the ancient Greeks called "The Dog's Tail", fore the 7 stars of The Big Dipper was known as Seth, "Thigh of the Ox Leg". Polaris is our pole star, on the other side of Earth's tilt is Vega, which was known as the Dog headed goddess Bau-Gula, wife of Pabilsag, mother of "The Child" Damu. Do you have the ears to hear these words

Graham Hancock is my own favourite "go to" crackpot; but- - but the more you experience him the less cracked his pot.

I am so happy to hear that. Thank you!

Thanks!

Remember Plato story of Atlantis, the ancient history suggested that there were 9 previous disasters like the Great Floor. That the Greeks were a childlike race without memory. Perhaps neolithic man watched the Heavens because they knew Catastrophic events came from the Stars. Comet's, asteroids, super nova.... Solar Maximus events... Important notice which group of stars where present during that event (s) would be considered important to "priest class'

So much to learn! Gemini Readings ru-vid.com/group/PLEG2XGhpU6eu-Al6xDXLmaWcL_Ewx2One

Beautifully said

I would hate to have walked on the Great Floor.

If you’re asking whether I think the calendar and the Zodiac are related, yes, absolutely.

Thanks for the tip!

I use StarryNightPro7. It is built on #NASAJPL formulas. The software isn't free but currently less than half of what I paid. A video showing how Upper Paleolithic peoples viewed the #constellations using StarryNightPro7 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FkVrGAx1K50.html

It's not about some shapes of animals .. It's about stars .. Regulus, Spica, Pollux, Kastor, Fomalhaut, Altait, Alktur etc .. Maybe some basic archeoastronomy course ??

@@szpakmateusz8500 There appears to have been animals before the #stars were placed in them to become constellations. We were hunters (and the hunted) before we became skywatchers - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GEPNBtihF0g.html

Was going to give a Million dollars but the crab wasn't wearing pants.

Wow, thanks!

Discussed in Part 2.

Thank you!

@@WorldofAntiquity :: You do us all a disservice, especially after your other good presentations, when you don't go back far enough in time regarding this phenomenon. The Ancient Egyptians were studying this field before any of the Greeks you mentioned and definitely before the Romans. The knowledge of the Ancient Egyptians, in this regard, was the foundation of their existence on the planet, especially the After-Life of the Pharaohs.

@@cliffgaither If you know of any Egyptian documents that speak of the Zodiac prior to the Babylonians, please let us know what they are.

@@WorldofAntiquity :: Shu ( the god of the air ) :: January 26-February 24. Born under this sign :: creative / conscientious. Isis ( goddess of discipline ; wife of Osiris ; motherly-love ) :: February 25-March 26. Born under this sign :: straightforward / confident / idealistic. Osiris ( god of the underworld ) :: March 27-April 25. Born under this sign :: emotionally-paradoxical / enterprising / shys-away from responsibility. Amun ( god of creation ) :: April 26-May 25. Under this sign :: strong-willed / brave / good leaders. Hathor ( goddess of love ) :: May 26-June 24. Characteristics :: emotional / expressive / bi-polar. Anubis ( god of resurrection ) :: July 25-August 28. Profile :: self-confident / self-control. Thoth ( god of wisdom & learning ) :: August 29-September 27. critical-thinkers / problem-solvers. Horus ( god of the sky ) :: September 28-October 27. People close to nature / hard-working / responsible / imaginative. Wadget ( goddess of the royal cobra ) :: October 28-November 26. rational / cautious / conscientious / opinionated. Sekhmet ( goddess of war ) :: November 27-December 26. optimistic / imaginative. Sphinx ( "guardian" ) :: December 27-January 25. sensible / adaptable. Seth ( god of chaos ) :: May 28-June 18. ambitious. Bastet ( cat goddess ) :: July 14-28 / September 23-27 / October 3-17. Born under this sign :: charming / charismatic. The Nile ( a non-god ) :: January 1-7 / June 19-September 28. The Nile is the Beginning. passionate / impulsive. Geb ( god of the earth ) :: February 12-19 / August 20-30. diplomatic / tactful. 📌 The Babylonian Empire didn't predate the Egyptian Civilization. Most historians and archeologists place Egyptian Civilization beginning around 3100 BCE, 12 Centuries before the rise of the Babylonians. I'm not a historian or archeologist ... but you guys _who are_ ... should converse more ...

@@cliffgaither You seem to be under the mistaken notion that Egyptian civilization existed only before Babylon and not after.

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The significance? If we can tell how old the Zodiac is then we know how old mathematics and associated measuring/recording system are. And with the widespread spreading of such (ouch) we can gauge the sophistication of ancient sciences. BUT~! But don't go down that track, the further you do the more the grip it will have, until it may well become an obsession. Been there, done that ...

See Part 2, which is about that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vUdJCVwqJNM.html

Yes, I would be interested. Shoot me an email. My address is in the About section of my channel page.

Yes, they do that a lot, don't they? Thank you for watching!

Good stuff, although I do believe you're missing part of the picture. But you touched on why at the end, you're an archeologist, not an astronomer or such. But I do applaud you not taking some "we got this artifact and its the oldest so meh" position, which would be the most advantageous for you in these debates. I know I criticize you sometimes, in defense of Hancock's work usually, but I criticize Hancock a ton too. Not playing teams here, I want truth.

@@DeDunking I believe Dr. Miano is an historian. 😃

It's from John Bevis's Uranographia.

11,000 years ago.

In the #shamanic and #animistic traditions there are 3 planes of existence - above, terrestrial and below - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JJVmRifjOGU.html

Hmm. I did not realize that. I assumed "Samian" meant from Samos. But maybe the samian ware found there was from Gaul.

You're correct, samian ware was only made in Roman Gaul, the Greek equivalent would be closer to the black figure pottery tradition of Athens

I think they just became familiar with the sun's path sufficiently enough so that at night by memory they knew where it would be.

One can see the stars about 30 min before sunrise. They were also charting the stars every night so they knew what would happen the next month, week, day and hour

They seen what stars came up before the sun came out and they noticed what stars were out when the sun set.

It's not a dumb question at all. But not only does the sun travel along that path during the day, planets also travel along it at night. Early astronomers from several different cultures were able to make this observation

Thanks for that!

Robert Sepehr is the esoteric scribe of our time.

Gemini Readings ru-vid.com/group/PLEG2XGhpU6eu-Al6xDXLmaWcL_Ewx2One

Considered a crank, Graham Hancock makes a very useful point-of-entry for enquiring minds. His signature line is that "...Mankind is a species with amnesia ..." My advice is that if you do go there, be in no hurry to leave, but be warned - it can be very addictive.

Love that oblique 'destiny-defining' (ghosty) bit. You/I/we may not believe, but such beliefs had very powerful effects. Still do ... sadly.

Roman sources are full of references to the constellations, but Ptolemy's Almagest, which although written in Greek, comes from Roman times, and it has the full list of 48. Of course, we use the Latin (i.e., Roman) versions of the names, instead of Greek. Tycho Brahe based his star catalog on Ptolemy's, and that's where we got them.

@@WorldofAntiquity thank you for the response

I suspect they haven't moved much visibly, despite constantly moving in space

He’s not a real one I guess😂

LMFAO, Ty, I stated that with like 30 seconds left in the Video considering it over :D Sorry . Ill go check that one out now