How oldschool multi-track recording works. Tascam 4-track 

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They were using sequencers and MIDI so keeping on track wasn't hard

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@@dog5696 why rock?

this is insane! I've always dealt with the generation loss as a kind of... "art through circumstance" but this is great!

do you know how to operate a Fostex X26? im really confused and the manual doesnt make any sense to me, maybe im daft. i dont understand if Line 1 means track 1+3 and track 2= 2+4. sometimes during playback some recordings are heard on unrecorded tracks. any help would be appreciated

Thats how they did it in big studios.I thiknk it's mentionedin the documentary about queen's A night at the oper and also on the making of I'm not in love by 10cc. They used the the same principle but probably on 18 or 24 track recorders.

Bouncing

Genius ❤

“In The Name of Love” by Thompson Twins

It sounded like a possessed David Byrne talking backwards

I believe it’s magic.

We're all Devo, even the Ghostbusters.

That song revered blew my mind 4 years back lmao

Jaspertine haha that's awesome. What kind of place did you rent it from?

I worked at a Sound and lighting rental company and I "borrowed" a big ole Tascam all the time and never got anything good out of it

It's a pipe dream again given how much these things go for these days.

Jaspertine I'm Digital and a proud broke musician. Love vintage equipment.

Dj Digital what do you think of the Teenage Engineering OP-1? I think it's an amazing piece of equipment.

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Hahahahaha!!!! 😂

You got told off for having used normal instead of metal tape, I presume?

Hahar. Dam. I youst to take the odd tape I fount. An put tape over the end to record. If had no blank tape s. Dam u made this video. But u dident have a taskam back in day s. I'm holding to buy one asap

That brought back memories. I was either getting beaten or I was beating someone for taping over cassettes in the 80's. That was a serious offense.

"Perfect Timing" and quantization are two different things. Bernard Edwards of Chic was a "Grove-Master" but far from playing perfect quantized tracks.

Back in the day I used to devote a track to stripe with FSK to get midi sync. Believe me the sync was much tighter than anything I have been able to achieve with midi over USB.

but a lot of people quantize because of latency when recording

@@sadniggahours4046 Yeah, and recordings are so hi-fi nowadays that a slight variation of timing is quite noticeable. A lot of hard rock and metal producers have to sync up double kicks and guitars if they're meant to match up since being even a fraction of a second off compromises the mix

Shiiid, NEVER in my life would I ever use quantizing. It ruins the Natural way we play our instruments making it sound too robotic & perfect... there's no feeling or soul in the swing. Real/Raw music doesn't need quantizing, but I guess beginner musicians that can't keep up with the beat or even swing right, would probably use it to avoid being too sloppy 😂😂🎹🎵🎸

We appreciate the technology. We all started out at one point and sat there scratching our heads wondering why this part of the vocal or the guitar is louder than this part etc etc. Not to mention in today's audio industry, everything is overcompressed (I am guilty) and not too long ago was a loud war (not guilty). Also, it would be great if compressors were as easy as a LA2A but they're not and most of us don't have $4K to spend on a great vintage compressor. Compression is a complicated thing to master. It can really change the direction of the song. Something that is heavily compressed will sound like it's in your face and if the song isn't in your face and the vocal is, well then the vocal is sitting on top of the mix which isn't good.

The LA2A emulation(s) on the UAD Apollo interface sounds great. So does the UA 1176.

An 1176...lol, a Boss RCL-10 micro compressor was a dream unit for me and still beyond my budget then (and now). I was lucky to have a SM-57 microphone. Audio always has been a rich man's game and it has been my experience that those who can afford high end equipment often have no idea what to do with it.

Wes Murray I haven't used any of UA's plugins. I've been using Waves for years. I like their CLA2A. Would like to test some of Universal Audio's plugins.

Jim Walker btw, I found that compressor for $100

Hahah.. You mean in contrast to The Angry Video Game Nerd or something?

Exactly. :D AVGN is very entetaining if you can accept he's only a character acted by James Rolfe, but still a bit too much for me after a while. There's enough frustration in the world around me anyway. :)

I watch all of those channels and love them

I'm a happy subscriber to all three and have been for quite a while, for this exact reason.

There’s Nostalgia Nerd.

Oh yes magic. Awsum..bring it back I say. But can still up load recordings from 4 track to a computer if need be to add or mix an compress plus. .

My thoughts exactly. Frustrating to listen to his mix down approach.

Yeah ! 'Bouncing' - I would mix 4 tracks down to a stereo mix, then use that as a new 1 and 2 leaving 3 and 4 empty, and repeat. Or 4 into 1 leaving 2,3 and 4 etc That was the fun of using them.

You can't bounce down on tascam porta 02's. That's why he didn't do it, he knows his s***...

Bouncing?

i dont think you can do that on one of those really little guys def can on the big portastudios like 424's etc

I still enjoy MIDI, My first setup was a yamaha PSR-47( basically a toy) and Atari PC with midi ports, have to agree i was also quite disappointed with it and its lowly 16 note polyphony :) try layering with it and PHbtttt notes cutting out all over the place..

I faced that same issue with that very same board! 😂 I did get a Yamaha TX 81-Z and only used the keyboard for one sound. My Alesis MMT-8 sequencer was the brains of my MIDI flow. My drum machine was a small Boss Dr Rhythm 550. I still use MIDI today, and whereas I’ve since upgraded sound modules and sequencer, I still use the Casio as a controller board only. The MPC 1000 is the brain now. Although I don’t use them, I still have my Tascam 424 four-track, and 488 MKII eight-track cassette recorders.

I felt like I need to come back to my own comment. I suppose I am still very much using MIDI because of all the virtual instruments I use, I think back in the 90's though MIDI seemed like the be all and end all, I'd quantise everything to death to the point where there was no emotion left in anything. Oh how much I've learnt since then!

Amen

Analog recording are better. Not in the dynamic range department, but consider the fact that converters, word clock, jitter, dither, bit depth, sampling rate, 32 bit or 64 mix engines don't exist in the tape world. A Tape transfer to vinyl was like heaven.

Dope that's good digital is way to clean for me ....

Yer good old sticky tape over hole s on any blank or old tape an keep recording on them..then 4 track came in. Got confusing one added to much ..an tape s from then. Whant play. In today tape deck s an music play all scrabeld lol unless thru 4 track. Put all onto track one. I got tunn of old school tape s Pbs hip hop show recording s an live Dj battle DMC s an gigs .dope to play. Tape. Sound slow. If tape s from orly 90 s only just got tape deck larst year. As my old school bomb box spring Brock of. Hard to find any body who fixes tape deck s. So hopeing to get dubble caset deck. For tape to tape recording agen. Sume of my stuff home recorded is dope just wish I was pro. Producer back in 90 s but I gess I was in my own right. ..my sirtch is on for working dubble tape deck or aux .into ..two tape deck. I still got old school sanyo silver pa amp.with mic input plus. Is dope an pioneer equlizer old skool type .taken it back to late 80 s orly 90 s

Pretty sure someone out there must have created the first "Reaction" audios just like that, in an old box somewhere

rad - i used to do the same with guitar and sing like try to play along and listen back! good times!!

That's awesome

Let me know if you’re ever trying to get rid of that Sony 8 track!! I’d love one lol

Why reel to reel these days?

synthartist69 lol...man we were good at that back then! I’d do sometimes 20 x!

Yes. Amazing it is. I say bring it back. Eazy an effective an raw. In own zone creating n recording it. I did one track. Hole thing is free style adding new tape an put tape into other side an keep adding. Befor I had a 4 track to ... I need a dubble tape deck asap ....an 4 track I can still get caset tapes TDK or box s of them ...collecting. Incase tape stops bean made ..like vhf. .but albums on caset tape are still bean made an still sale. I live pulling out my old recordings on caset tape s take me back to good ol late 80 s orly 90 s. .

I learned to do one take vocals using a standard cassette deck as well in the same way. While it was playing back I would run the 2nd tape to record the harmonies and backing vocals. I used the instrumentals on the B side of singles to practice

I’ve done that!

true.. it's amazing what music we can create with a laptop in our bedroom

Can you or anyone tell me how to clear the tracks properly after finishing a track?

@@thomasrabon9964 Just erase the tape.

Man! Eat your heart out, Crush 40

The 8-Bit Guy reaches even schools!

Gaming829 shown in my college music production class the other day!

I used one of these to record some my compositions, guitar pieces, for GSCE music in 1994. I was allowed to bring it home for the weekend. My father, whose enthusiasm for audio technology was cruely stunted by available funds, was enthralled by it, it was just the most amazing piece of kit ever. Sunday night, something jammed on it, I opened it with a screwdriver and it miraculously returned to normal in its own. The other half of my compositions were recorded to tape, from the line out of the school's Roland U20 controlled by cubase on an atari st. Limited by the polyphony on the U20,I recorded a highly complex OTT orchestral piece in 3 tracks on the TASCAM, after much trial and error on the exact point to hit the big mouse button to start cubase for the second and third tracks one afternoon after school had finished for the day. I felt like I was pushing technology to the limit and beyond. What a time to be alive! for the record, 1994 was when the A* grade was introduced but I had to settle for A, despite my herculean efforts in the back room. I'm still bitter after all these years... Don't make the same mistake I did..... Study hard!!!!

well said

Would u consider swooping sume thing for it or sale it.

we want videos of that... no... we NEED it... now, by the way... XDDD

I did that all the time with my old Cutec. Record four tracks on tape A, mix and send to tape B on good quality stereo recorder then put tape B in the 4-track. Then record two more tracks and add a "live" track during final send to stereo. 7 tracks total with only one bounce. Not bad. If you planned well, you bounced the sounds that were least harmed by the inevitable, if slight. degeneration of sound.

Playing B side backwards

"Ok, so? She's a dog..."

Evangeline Domenech 😂 there is no Zuul only music

Get sucked

I’m the gatekeeper!

It's called track bouncing.

@@michaelhamerin3814 its called a good explanation of track bouncing and how to do it well. Actually :)

Great explanation.

Lucky u. Or if u would swoop or sale it. Pleas let me know. If all still works .injoy.

Im about to buy one and start my journey, at 41 lol.

Yes so so tru.

However, be it a 4 track tascam or the latest 256-track protools rig, there's no better toy for a musician than a multitrack deck..

You are completely right. Dude needs to check his facts.

yep I was about to say the same thing when watching this. Type 1 was standard cassette, Type 2 was Chromium Dioxide, There was a type 3 that was hardly used, and type 4 was metal.

Yes. Type IV, at least what I used, was too hard for my Fostex X-30 to erase, so it left low frequency content of the previous recording. Only use type II if the device is made for type II.

That's right. They're all made from metal, which is why one shouldn't mix up the terms; only type IV should be referred to as Metal.

Just getting ready to comment that, but I figured someone else had made that observation. Having cut my recording teeth on a TASCAM cassette 4-track in the early 90s, I remember the difference.

it sounds like you said

i enjoy a nice porn story line on VHS

Ron Jeremy was king.

lol

r/cursedcomments

definitely, the company will probably charge too much but would still be nice.

With the resurgence of Polaroid cameras, you know it's only a matter of time.

MSH68 They will probably be inferior in quality compared to the 414 & 424

Tascam is still making new ones that work and feel the same, they just write to an SD card instead of tape. Their 6 track is only like $150 which is pretty damn cool. I find it much more straightforward and effective than DAW and PC, especially when recording simple demos

I still have my 4 track Tascam. It was nice, but no way I would ever go back. The Portastudios that Tascam has come out with blows away the old stuff by a country mile.

plz make this real

Hell yeah!

I would love to... but I'm pretty sure he lives on the other side of the planet, so it wouldn't be anything in person.

You are aware that they live on different continents?

Of course - i mean something like an online collaboration - the internet makes stuff like that very possible, and through the magic of video editing, it could be really seamless and potentially fun

I've stuck with Tascam for as long as I could,for the first time in 9 years I'm grabbing a Yamaha MT4X since it uses figure 8 plugs instead of those bulky AC adapters.

Ok boomer

Wizardito Someone is triggered. Did you think of that “insult” yourself? You’re so original and edgy. Actually you’re just cringe in human form 😬

@@someguynamedvictor hey man you ok

@@someguynamedvictor my mates and i did so many demos on these back in the 90's - when you ping ponged the mix that was time for a beer while it bounced down for each pass... we found that recording one song usually involved about 20 beers for the group... good times!!!

@@wizardito7741 Okay Zoomer.

Yes...but the tape was 2 inches wide LOL!

With 8 tracks on a cassette, you'll need to make sure loud tracks like bass and kick drum aren't right next to each other so they won't bleed over on that tiny strip of tape

@@customsongmaker That's sage advice. Tell that to the young lad that didn't know what to do with all those channels, thirty years ago. 😁

@@FatNorthernBigot ok I'll tell him, if you go back and tell another lad that he'll never finish his 4 connected concept albums to change the world

@@customsongmaker 🤣 Ah, the hubris of the young.

Hell yeah!!

David Singleton Have you ever worked with Tape? Its much warmer sounding and can be just as clean: if recorded right

Very good am going back to this so easy to use

But he didn't start his youtube channel looking at mac computers unlike david

Word same just I need a dubble tape deck an taskam blue. 4 track...or dubble tape deck system with mic input .