How OP would a Dragon/Normal Dragonite be in Pokemon Yellow? - Live 

He is already triple platinun

Fact, but doing more damage with STAB and having coverage for anything else is also OP

@@RBYPokemonChallenges Gengar would wall it decently, especially if you are running Agility/Wrap with it's special and Eggy and Cloyster force it to pick between Thunderbolt and Ice Beam/Blizzard coverage. And at 80 Spd, you are threatened by a lot of mons. Articuno out speeds and two hits without much worry for example. It would be fun to see, but the worst I would expect to see is a return to the Agility/partial trapping ban, but considering the recent unbans in Gen 1 even that might not happen. Gen 9 being so ban happy is the exception, not the rule.

IDK, cause realistically Gengar is the only tre wall to the wrap strat, but realistically it could run some sort of Mimic strat to steal moves like Hypnosis and have the extra Ice Beam or Surf and just cheese hard on it. I don't think Gengar can get through Dragonite quickly. Granted I'm not 100% sure the main set of Gengar, but Gen 1 sleep is too OP to keep off it's set. For Exeggutor, it is praying not to get wrapped, and Articuno needs to OHKO of it's not going to get Agility into Wrap

@RBYPokemonChallenges Articuno should only take about 7% per Wrap and 35% from Hyper Beam guessing off the non-STAB numbers. That's a lot of Wraps to pull off without a miss. And you always have the option to switch into Rhydon or Gengar.

And slam para immunity

Yeah, we basically always want the Squirtle in Yellow. Vaporeon is used in Red/Blue when we don't have the ability to beat Rival 5 and want to go to Cinnabar before that

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​@@bobboberson12555fival goes west was better. ;)

is it possible to play a n64 stadium with your RBY rom pokemon? on the same PC

It would be awesome if someone did one of those reverse engineer PC ports of Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2

Same loved the 1st 2 games rental only perfected every section.

@@signout932 on an emulator yes, as long as the transfer pack is configured

Yeah, I should be able to use the Rom files, but I think it would be necessary to find the memory location of the player Pokemon types in the game data

We don't judge, sometimes we want to be locked....

Absolutely, it would have been broken. And besides, Lance has a thing for Pokemon with 4x wealnesses

I always thought that both Gyarados and Dragonite are flyers only because Game freak wanted to give them 4x weakness.@@RBYPokemonChallenges

Yeah, the main point is more that rather than Leering and taking damage, were better off just attacking and hoping for longer Wraps on Geodude. We can go Leer strats once Onix uses Bide

Yeah, Horn Drill just has far less accuracy and I was far more interested in looking at STAB, which wouldn't have been affected at all by HornDrill

Eminem has not shot against this Wrap God!

I mean, it really is just a matter of accuracy and the number of hits

Could be!

Sounds legit. But we shall confirm it

Overlay glitch???

Missed opportunity RIP

Oh yeah!

For sure!

Oh god, we must find out!

I see. Teo Pokemon universes, sounds like it's becoming Marvel

It really is a lot better when you consider that it's basically doing chop damage until Mt. Moon. Even after that, it only gets Water Gun until you brat Misty or grab Body Slam from the SS Anne. I think most solo runners would immediately go for the Body Slam and forget Wrap, even though it's soooo OP

Yeah, he really just needs one TM move to cover Rocks and he is basically OP

Yeah, there would have to be a way to do it programmatically.

That's right!!!

Oh yeah, Clamp is the strongest. Bind is second and Fire Spin has some good spots, Wrap is the weakest but might still be decent

I will get you someday, GSC!

Personally, I walk when I can and only bike to work

That is the idea! Basically using the exact strategy that got banned from Gen 1 competitive, but even stronger with STAB bonus!

A Gen 2 Steel/Water Blastoise sounds amazing

Sounds interesting. I'll have a think about that one

The Normal Type fits and would have been OP 😂

Makes sense. I think it depends on the case, but in the anime it seemed that they remained usable

Drampa 😂

Yeah, we'll have to see. But that is still a pretty big improvement, since Lorelei is usually a big problem

But it would be banned I. Ubers with this setup. Way to OP

Thank you! I appreciate that!

Yes!!!!

Yeah, I'd like to try a electric bike. Walking is it though!

Yeah....

OMG, yes! Everything that comes out his mouth should be fire!!!!

Those all sound hilarious and fun. I'm down!

@@RBYPokemonChallenges hey just thought of something…. Since you don’t use your rare candies til the elite 4, as a little reward for yourself, if you don’t use all of the rare candies and you have some left over maybe you could “cash those in” as like maybe 1/2 a point for each candy you don’t use and add that to your final score as a reward for not having to use them all?

Cheers I'll look I to that. Not sure exactly the issue, because it's the same mic and all, but possibly a setting issue.

Basically lol.. I need to do like Scotty and ask the audience to point out all of my annoying tendencies

@@RBYPokemonChallenges by all means.. but please do interject a psychic/flying venomoth and edit in a nice! After each instance of 69

It would be incredible, but they'd need to ban a lot of broken moves

​@@RBYPokemonChallengeshaha yeah Spore would probably just be banned. But I think what we'd see is specific pokemon getting bans to specific moves or types. Chansey in particular seems like it could be particularly broken with a ghost type added or transform on its moveset

Yeah, but it's hilarious

BROTHER!

That is a fact

For sure. I think it benefitted massively from the physical/special split. Until then, its lack of physical STAB made it pretty meh

@@RBYPokemonChallenges it had Flying as a physical, but no strong Flying moves in Gens 2-3. I think Fly was power 70 in Gen 3, but boosted to 90 in Gen 4. But Outrage is 120, so that's my Dragonite go-to in G4.

Yeah, in Gen 1 it doesn't learn any Flying type moves. I believe it got Wing Attack in Gen 2 which was 60 power, but still nothing to write home about

Yeah, tok excited in the moment, but the 1x weakness means it's likely only OHKOed with a crit

@@RBYPokemonChallenges yeah he'd still be a powerhouse in OU! Don't think he'd get banned from ubers though 🤣

Hyper Beam is good and all, but Wrap is where it's at.

Aw yeah!

I agree that for a Speedrun Wrap isn't great, but it was just too funny watching STAB Wrap destroy things

@@RBYPokemonChallenges lol I feel u so u basically saying he’s gen 1 drake 150 vs 1

This is kind of the point. The wrapping moves would have the issue of accuracy, opponents having many chances to use healing items, and battles taking a long time. The two-turn moves Mew would be stuck taking damage at least one turn every battle, but will do so much kore damage when it hits.

@@RBYPokemonChallenges More damage per hit, yes. But it's not about damage per hit at this point, but whether it can one-shot. Because this is basically the crux of two-turn Mew - it HAS to one-shot, or it's in trouble. Because anything it doesn't one-shot now gets TWO more turns to act. That's two more turns for damage, or two more chances to hit sleep/confusion/freeze/paralysis, two more turns to Wrap et al., and two more turns to use a heal if it's in that range. And when you start going against trainers with more than a couple Pokémon, you're not going to be able to afford those extra turns. But from the way it sounded like you were planning to set that up, it sounds like it has to one-shot without any boosts - no buffing moves, no BBG unless an enemy hits a debuff. And I doubt Mew is strong enough to pull that off without overleveling, particularly when it doesn't have a type advantage, which with only Grass and Flying at its beck and call it's not going to often. For a portion of the game, it's probably not going to seem like a big deal. It'll breeze by Brock and Misty on Solarbeam, Surge will just be a matter of the right rolls. But you're going to hit Erika and suddenly status is going to be an issue, Sleep and Paralysis can come in and interrupt your Sky Attack. Koga is going to use Sleep Powder and Toxic, and you get Toxic early on and that is IT. Sabrina, her Flashy Abra is always going to get at least one chance to make you miserable, and her Alakazam will always have a chance to recover. Blaine, his Ninetales with Confuse Ray will end runs, and you'd better hope you don't get burned and have your Attack cut because Solarbeam ain't gonna cut it. Giovanni's Dugtrio might very well have TWO chances to attack, and could very well Fissure you before you know what happens, or screw you up with Sand Attack - and then Persian can also Double Team and make more extra turns more likely. The Rival battles from 5 on are going to throw confusion and paralysis at you, and the later ones will add Leech Seed in. Lorelei's bulky mons might weather a Solarbeam and might hit freeze, Bruno has all type disadvantages but might throw a wrench in with X Defends on the Fighting-types, and Lance's hard-hitters are going to be tough to one-shot - but Two-Turn Mew is going to hate, hate, HATE Agatha. You're gonna get confused, paralyzed, or put to sleep, you're gonna have the first one's Substitutes, just getting attacks off is going to be a challenge, and you'd better hope you don't run out of Sky Attacks against the Ghosts because they resist Solar Beam due to the Poison typing. I honestly think this run could end up being pretty dreadful.

Your analysis is spot on. The two-turn moves will suffer so much from status and taking damage from opponents, so I expect Wrap strats to dominate. But that is kind of the point. People hate Wrap strats so much, but they're legit amazing in Gen 1

@@RBYPokemonChallenges I mean, I get WHY people hate Wrap strats - it's death by a thousand cuts and in PvP it basically becomes a game of "hope you miss so that I actually get to play" which isn't fun. (Same issue with Sleep, really, but most of them are less accurate at least.) But it certainly can't be denied that they're effective.

Because I was trying to go on Minimum Battles and Body Slam is locked because of an optional battle

​@@RBYPokemonChallenges An option for an Optimized Run, perhaps? Yeah, it may be a few optional battles, but Body Slam and the extra Rare Candy could make the mid-game smoother and faster.

Agreed, for optimizing it really shouldn't take much, but Body Slam seems like a no brainer

@@RBYPokemonChallenges ah that makes sense. Thank you!

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Clefable has something else upcoming

Yeah, but the key here was that we didn't really even need perfect luck. Consider that. STAB Wrap is effectively 22 power and with a 134 base Attack stat, it's kind of OP compared to say a Brllsprout

@RBYPokemonChallenges oh, I was referring to wrapping vs 2 turn moves. also with that there is the possibility that the 2 turn move doesn't ohko and you need to attack again. in which case you aren't taking 1 attack, you're taking 3

That is true. This will be really fun to do!

Coming, don't fret!

I am planning to do Psyduck for that first

@@RBYPokemonChallenges Psyduck should be just psychic since it can't swim.

OMG, you're right! l 🤯

Thank you 🤗

Damn.... Even Pokemon has corporate greed, even back in the 90s

@@RBYPokemonChallenges capitalism is inevitable. Must generate profit for shareholders at all cost. Pray they don’t go after the free healthcare pokemon

Seriously, it's because here in Japan we still have universal healthcare. When Japan joins the US model, we'll all pay for healthcare. I need to make a mod where the Pokemon Center costs 5000 poke dollars. And 1000 to access the computer. And potions sell for 1/10 of their value at the Pokemart and prices are all 10x

@@RBYPokemonChallenges you should work for Boeing

Yeah, if it had broken gen1 Wrap it would be truly incredible

It's sad to see you and Scott's thoughts to be hiding half your videos behind a pay wall especially for fans that can't afford to pay you and have been hear pretty much sense the beginning on more than 1 account I mean even pikasprey has decided to fall off with his crappy png pedophile character the only true poketubers left are just jrose zwiggo and mdb

I think I got things figured out. I have a specific type of content that I want to stream, basically some redos in the new overlay and some ext5ra runs that don't necessarily justify their own video. But I can definitely understand the argument for just doing edited content only.

I'm not really hiding content behind a paywall. There are a lot of things that have been put on the member side that weren't up to snuff for final videos, but generally I post the same things on both ends, just with the difference being that paying members don't have ads in the videos. Though honestly, if I ever could make enough without ads to support myself, I would just doing everything ad free.

@RBYPokemonChallenges don't get me wrong I love the vids but there's a difference between the way you convey videos anymore and the way you used to its not the layouts or the paywall for some vids I get that being a youtuber isn't the most lucrative field but instead of keeping this going in your comments just know I have no plans on stopping watching your vids

Exactly this. I guess Mew can learn then, but that's really it.

Yeah, I could have avoided it by switching to my personal account with premium or looking up the video on my hard disk 😂

It would be incredible

Oh no, the Pidgey broke my balls

RIP ,🙏

Which is a real shame. It got no STAB I. Gen 1

Let's go!!!

I could understand since it comes out of the sea in the Bill's Lighthouse episode of the anime. But it's moveset is clearly Normal-type

I feel Dratini and Dragonair would've been pure Normal, then gaining flying. But then GF saw it was too strong and made the Dragon type.

Something will be Dragon, maybe both!

Yeah, I'm getting a bit beardy 😂. Probably won't last after the baby's born, but we'll see

Perfect, I made a yoshi run...

Sounds legit, I can buy that

@@RBYPokemonChallenges Pokeball meets FDA requirements, after the show had shown that Pikachu found that its ball, that Ash had, was compromised. PETA had gotten involved and they had to find a more humane way to make the Pokeball more safe for the Pokemon. lol

The stats page typing and the battle typing are stored I. different RAM locations. I am changing the Battle typing, but not the stats page

Sure, but the point was that we were taking too much damage fro. all the turns of getting hit while setting up leer, that it's just better to go for the Wraps I. Onix and hold off for Onix