How Order 66 Became the Best Scene in Star Wars 

Of it was chips all along! Palpatine:hey kaminoans install us another batch of them CHIPS.

@@mdswitchy378 uhhh what? What do you mean? The chips are born inside the clones.

@@Gadget-Walkmen no the chips can be removed so they must have been implanted into the clone. The clones are technically from bioengineering, but the chip is implanted into the clone.

@@mdswitchy378 No you CAN take something out that's been grown into you. That's just factually true, you can remove gall blanders that's inside your bodies as all. The chips are born from the clones from birth but still have a "techy" look to them on the outer shell.

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That's the second best part for me (obviously after all the Jedi getting what they deserve).

eh, Plo Koon was a very respectable jedi though, unlike some of the other assholes of the jedi order

@@reek4062 the dirty Jedi got exactly what they deserved, Empire Forever brother

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How? Their relationship is barely established

That’s always been my head canon.

Rex tried that by pointing out to Jesse that Ahsoka wasn't a Jedi, but Jesse demoted Rex and ordered both him and Ahsoka executed instead

​@@believer2well think about it this way, perhaps the reason why Jesse contiued was because he saw ashoka, Cody never saw Obi wan past his fall so it's safe to assume that he assumed he was dead and was able to passively resist his programming as a result of that perceived death where as normally one would be forced to stop everything and contiue searching It could also be due to cody having gone through some experimental stuff himself so he unlike the others is able to more passivly resist his inhibitor chip compared to others, idk if that's still cannon or not but I remember it being something brought up in legends, same with some stuff around Rex and a couple other troopers

That seems to have also been the case with Crosshair when he was told Caleb jumped.

It would take concious thought to conclude that a jedi could have survived that fall, concious thought the robotic clone didnt have and the non robotic clone would rather not point out.

Why

@@kingorange7739 lol

@@mannamedmaul5895 Seriously, it's not that bad. Twisted but comparatively light stuff

@@Espartanica yea

Then you should watch the geonosis worm episode of the clones getting infected, that is a scary episode when I saw it as a kid.

probably to further cement anakin into vader too

Makes sense why the dark side was so strong at that time as per maul's words

That.... actually makes sense. Like how Jacen had to murder Mara to become Darth Caedus

Yooooooo great point. That's devastatingly evil

A similar thought occurred to me a while back. I was baffled that in the era of droids and the like, the republic would want an army of living things dying around the jedi. And that clicked in a horrifying way. The jedi either suck at war and the clones around them die in droves, or embrace the war, and stray from their own path. The dark side wins in both scenarios, and to finish it all with order 66 is palpatines cherry on top

The coolest thing about the inception of the idea of order 66 is that it helped guide the idea of a star wars cinematic universe, where multiple different stories can contextualize this one moment from a film almost 20 years old. Granted SW didn't pioneer the idea, but it's cool to see the fertile soil that this scene provided cultivated so many years later.

I thought it was a Chekov's gun, it was announced it was there with Ep 3. the exact moment the clone wars show starts, it plays on this one moment, building up to the moment it can be used. Every scene the chancellor is in, his voice is so chilling that all he needs to do is drop a few octaves, speak slower and he could utter the order at that moment, but we know it wont be. We know where each major player has to be in terms of the Jedi from ep 3, before they can use it, but the exact moment they show us where they are, that gun has been loaded, it has been cocked, now it can go off at any point. But unlike a normal Chekov's gun, where it is pulled out and fired immediately, in every moment, if you focus enough, you can recognise the signs that its here, that the exact next scene you will hear the words that change everything. The silence, the headache of thousands of Jedi being executed spread out across the galaxy, then you see him... that blue bastard of a hologram. In the hands or in front of a clone, is Palpy himself with the hood up and that alone tell you, that aint the chancellor, that's not even the damn senate. That is Lord Sidious, the one that can sentence a jedi to execute a sith lord, the one that makes dark god damn maul, the one who was turned into an agent of vengeance and a madman, cower like a scared dog in what that man could do to him. But the exact moment the pieces fall together, is when the words have just come out of his mouth. you start to shout, no no no no, you want to smack that communicator out of their hand, you want to stop it but its too late, their eyes gloss over, their orders have been given and they place both hands on their blaster, turn to their jedi and fire. just like that wave upon waves of bolts just flying at every jedi anywhere near a clone and despite those being far enough away to what i assume is the equivalent of lag so that the feel the deaths of their fellow jedi, its not enough that unless they are specifically warned or are the literal master of the jedi order, that they cannot know what is coming. And surprisingly, every iteration is different enough that it hits us the exact same way if we haven't been expressly told that its coming or that we have seen that scene before. The original... we had only heard of the execution of the jedi, never really told in detail what the hell happened, so that when it came about in ep 3, no one was prepared, while we weren't exactly attached to each jedi, that wasn't the point, the travesty of that first order 66 wasn't that we were never endeared to them. that was never the point. the two major points in my opinion was seeing how these clones in just a split second, all synchronised across the galaxy, could wipe out almost the entire jedi order just like that. the second point of the scene in my opinion, was the ramp up of the deed. First you had the more prominent jedi, the masters that sat on the council and our major players like yoda and obi-wan. Then they brought us to the temple, where im pretty sure it was mostly the knights being slaughtered with a Padawan every now and again. Then the drive it in further, with the lone Padawan in front of bail organa and the most infamous scene of them all. Anakin goes all the way, further than murdering a jedi master and defending a sith lord, The sith lord in fact. He kills the god damn younglings... they weren't prepared for him, they weren't ready for him to betray them as no one had any idea that he killed windu and saved sidious. In the clone wars, they give us every indication of what episode they are going to unleash it in, its just a matter of when. They bring in some truly touching moments, reflecting on everything they have done and rex merely walks back with no indications of what was coming. but then it hits. You see the familiar signs, the general unease and quiet of it all, the headache, the panic, she rushes back to tell rex but he has already heard them, his eyes just changed into those of a mindless jedi killing machine, but this time its deafferent, when he turns back, instead of just shooting, he had enough of a a difference from you average clone, a bond that transcends any other, a mindset to complete the mission with any method, not just the orders given, that fact he truly sees comradery in everyone alongside him, not just the jedi or his brothers, but that only gives him a few moments of a even foggy mind. Rex, the one clone that withstood it without being a fundamentally different clone, only hand a couple lines before the switch fully flipped and he hunted her. No hesitation onwards. However, in fallen order, situation is reversed entirely. It seems like just another flashback, albeit with some clone interaction, but not enough that it makes you suspicious, they arent trying to attach these clones to you, they are just establishing that Cal dosnt fear the clones for any reason and they respond well to him as well. then he gets to his master and everything seems fine until it hits the same way it always does, the unnerving quiet, the headaches, the fear of what's about to come washes over you and you then see it... The blue bastard is here again, giving the order to the lone clone behind Cals master and everything clicks just as he's about to shoot and... he kills the clone. This isn't an execution this time, no... its a hunt, a hunt for these two jedi across this entire ship, with one storming the halls and the other scrambling across the pipes and chasms in the guts of the ship. And you feel it, you feel what this iteration really is. its entirely from a Padawan's perspective, it should be obvious right? both the fact that Cal was never made a knight and the fact he is pretty much a child in this scene but you feel the same things he now suddenly does, confusion on why its happening, they never saw the order being given, one was hit with an immense amount of people dying and the other too concerned for his master. you feel the terror of trying to escape and you feel the grief of loss when Cals master is finally gunned down in front of him. Finally you have the 2 most recent portrayals, The bad batch and grogu. With grogu, its a mere singular scene but it provides just enough to show his own view on how it felt, this is from a surviving younglings perspective, one that wasn't gunned down by the clones or sliced by the youngling slayer 9000. He has no idea what's going on in the slightest other than people are dying and he dosnt like it. Jedi being slaughtered and he cant do anything but hope he lives through, unfortunately since we don't have knowledge of how he escaped or who helped him do so. Finally, the last portrayal of the exact moment the republic ended and the empire began, the bad batch shows order 66 out of the gate from not just a clones perspective, but the perspective of the only clones who can physically have a chance to be immune to it. When the order is given any clone around the one who got the order suddenly knows what they have to do, but they don't know what's going on, so when they approach Caleb without knowing he just watched his own master get gunned down while he was powerless, just like Cal in fallen order, he runs and they just want to help and we then see it, we hear it and we definitely feel it. One of them, crosshair, has heard the order and it triggered him, sure he may not seem much different since his personality was similar to how the clones are now but he said the damn line. Good soldiers follow orders. It makes no sense that he is affected but the others arent until you realise its exactly because he seems similar to how the clones seem now, its no longer the night and day of him calling them regs and them getting mad, now, he's pretty much just a normal clone that's a better shot. The rest still have a chance of being affected and until they all get their chips removed its a case of yet again, Chekov's gun, they could turn at any moment.

Now we have pretty much an idea of what Order 66 looked like from all perspectives. We have a full view from and outside perspective(Original Ep 3), we have it from a masters perspective(Ep 3 Obi-wan and Yoda), we have it from a knights perspective(Ashoka, we can all agree even though its Cal situation as she never became a knight, she might as well be one), we have it from a Padawan's perspective(Cal in fallen order), we have the clones perspective when they arent mind controlled(Bad batch) and we have a younglings perspective(Grogu in mandolorian). That's every possible perspective, right? Yes but possibly no. There's obviously the option of extending grogu's perspective with more scenes showi9ng who helped him escape, there's the general public/individual citizens opinions on what the hell happened, there's always the option of showing the mind of a clone following orders, yelling to stop it and falling into despair when he kills his jedi or even trying to be expressive but having his emotions suppressed by the orders. Either way, there's an immense number of ways they could show us the scene again without making it stale, hell they could revisit the original sequence and show us the clones interaction with their jedi for the last time, joking arounds, scouting out areas, general radio chatter, then hitting us again with it. No matter what they do, its always going to be obvious, that this moment isn't simply the turning point or some big decision, as this was all according to plan for sidious. No, this one moment was where palpatine hard work, from killing his master, to manipulating multiple parties to giving him emergency power, to directing both sides of the war, finally giving the order after gaining a new immensely loyal apprentice. This moment is palpatine winning after years of work. This is him changing the game from subterfuge and manipulation, to kingdoms and civ-like games, where he is managing his new empire, sitting back and taking a moment to let it all soak in, then spending the next few years cleaning up the mess that wasn't taken out. This one moment, means so many things, it is shown in so many ways but it can be summarised as one thing... This is where the republic died and the empire was born.

@@agentluke18 Okay first, that was masterful what you just said. And second, the idea of seeing it from citizens is a good one. It's been implied in some areas, like how the Wookies reacted to seeing it happen. In the movie, we only saw Chewbacca and Tarrful with Yoda, but presumably, there were Wookies around when Lumanara and Vos got turned on, and the Wookies would naturally be confused and angry at this, and because the Clones are mindless thanks to their Chips they would then attack the Wookies who either tried to tell them they were wrong about the Jedi being traitors or just attacked them for killing the Jedi. That is implied what happened in that brief scene in Episode 3 of those Clones reporting "All the Wookies here are dead." The Clones didn't just turn on the Jedi, the chips make them turn against anyone who disagrees with them, even if they were just fighting alongside them like five minutes ago, we saw it with the Wookies and we saw it with the people of Utapu who were being arrested in the background during Episode 3 when Cody questioned his men if they found Obi-Wan's body, despite just helping the clones beat back the Separatists. So it would be interesting to see how others who see the Clones just turning on the Jedi would react.

Well said

It is certainly a really delicate plan With-holding knowledge of a device in the mind of every soldier in your army from the ones who command it is no easy feat

"A chain is only as strong as it weakest piece" as they say... If his friend didn't had a malfunction in his chip, they would've been none the wiser.

no just so close SO CLOSE few more words, that gate not being their, fives not drugged, kix not being captured as well etc. palpatine got fucking lucky

​@@kevind3974 supposly there is a story that says that mace windu and other jedis were investigating the place were he would meet up with count dooku but when they were sooooo close to discover who palpatine was the attack of corusant began. HE IS INDEED THE LUCKIEST MAN IN THE GALAXY.

If you wish to read about him succeed, try any place you can find Star Wars fanfic! Some of them he gets to murder the bastard his own damn self. The fact Palps has a bled lightsaber is a the default reason for him not getting shot by the guard (who so long as their chips aren't activated, are entirely content to kick his corpse after abuse they almost certainly suffered under him) 'Really X stops Order 66' is even more common than the prolific but somewhat more obscure: X gets sent back to Jaster Meerel's lifetime to prevent not just Order 66 from ever coming to pass, but the overwhelming majority of deaths from Jango Fett's stupidly tragic backstory. Sometimes even his birth parents live, & his sister is regularly rescued! Hell, there's a few where somehow he still ends up getting cloned for an army and the still existing True Mandalorians charge in to ensure the clones have rights, autonomy and an actual childhood

Hey it’s the funny Destiny man!

Had anakin been a tiny bit late to stop windu, or had windu just killed Palpatine immediately instead of waiting because ya know plot… Or how bout I do ya one better, HAD A NEW HOPE NEVER EXISTED--

I completely agree. It makes it so much more tragic. Clone Wars added so much to episode 3. It brought Revenge of the Sith from a mid tier decent movie to easily one of the best climax movies in the history of cinema.

I blame shakk ti alone fuckin left the one dude in the know with space doctor mangela

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Witwer

His work as Starkiller is astounding.

@@thecommonman9524 oh shit, Sam does Starkiller too? That’s neat

According to IMB, he won a few behind the voice actors awards, and was nominated for many more, including an Emmy. He deserved all of them.

Witwer has been an absolute legend in every single thing he's done. Major underrated actor

Which implies that, in Legends, 501st guy was either projecting what he did later to his actions back then, or they all knew it from the start.

@@randomguy-tg7ok In Legends, they knew

Battlefront 2 campaign one of the GOAT single player campaigns in video games.

That line was so chilling and haunting to 5 year old me, still is even now. But because of that line, ive always viewed order 66 as something so horrifying. And it just gets more and more so with every new depiction

@@pewpewpandas9203 God it was brutal at times.

I remember learning about that quote from Alfred Hitchcock. It was his explanation for how to write suspense, and you're right, the dramatic irony of knowing the plot of Revenge of the Sith acts as the proverbial "bomb under the table" in other Star Wars media

The entirety of the prequels is a bomb theory. We know that the Republic will become the Empire, that Palpatine is the Sith Lord, that Anakin becomes Vader, that Luke and Leia have to be separated at birth, etc

It’s not just that it’s that one of the people has the bomb inside them

That was me watching Season 7. Seeing events going by, dreading that the moment I knew would come was getting closer.

@@jameson1239 And the other person will get killed by the bomb

"We die but we are not dead, We will be slaves trapped within our own bodies" - The Bentuis

You're totally right. The technicality that Ahsoka is not a Jedi anymore might also be why Rex's strong will manages to stop himself from killing her, with great difficulty as we can see. Rex is literally trying to trick his own mind, or rather the chip controlling it, that he doesn't have to kill Ashoka. The fact he manages to trick the chip, with a tiny loophole in the programming, at least for a time, shows how strong his will is. For me, it's the explanation that makes the most sense; if not, other strong willed clones with also strong attachment to their Jedi generals might have had a chance to resist the chip (or at least would have hesitated), but as far as we know, no clone other than Rex managed this feat.

@@leovk5779 huh - that's a solid theory!

@@zeyonaut Thanks ;)

@@leovk5779 Some specialist clones flatly rejected the order thinking it was a false order sent by the enemy.

It hits a lot harder when characters you actually get to know are involved

@Don't read my profile photo i won’t

That episode really hit different but the rest of the show was kinda mid

The Jedis should have called the Disappearer. Just order a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro, and the Disappearer will give you a new identity on a new planet.

I disagree.

Rip to a true hero😢he could have saved the jedi

I can’t get through that episode without crying

Bitch i cried so much

@ethanjenkins5079, Same!

my boy Jesse :'(

See, this is why I dont understand some people hating the chip. Good soldiers follow orders my ass, I refuse to believe Rex would just immdiately pull a gun out on Ahsoka on his own if he didn't have a chip

"F-fives" "Fives" "FIND HIM" "FIND FIVES" "FIND HIM" Still hurts me.

If Rex had been a good soldier, Ahsoka wouldn't have survived. It's heartbreaking that she prevented him from following his orders.

That one hurt clone wars always hurts

I'm gonna cry thank you

When does this happen? Like what show

@@mahoganyk Book The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku

Jesus

It’s like Fry from Futurama, but he actually felt like he had something to live for in his time.

Makes it even worse when you realize WHO is saying that. Darth mother fucking Maul. The sith who survived for 12 years holding himself together by pure rage and vengeance. The sith who had slain countless jedi. The sith who killed Qui Gon Jin. Hearing him sound so absolutely terrified is genuinely chilling.

Yeah, Sidious was really, really lucky Maul hated the Jedi so much. If not, he could have told them about the entire 1000 year Sith plan to spite Sidious and ruin everything.

The Maul references are all top stuff. from the scene in the underground in which he says: "the moment may be upon us" - as he sensed that something happened and he believes its the reveal of sidious but it was anakin killing count dooku - to the entire throne hall scene in which he tries to convince ahsoka which just fails when he reveals that anakin is the shadow apprentice which sidious choosed and turns ahsoka against him - the fear when he is caught that he rather would die - the final moment that he sensed how the dark side gained the power while ahsoka feels anakins final fall and the moment ahsoka tells him about the clones betrayal/order 66 and he is just amazed how brilliant the entire plan was in the detail (before he becomes rogue one in badass mode) A top arc.

Yes! Perfrctly articulated. Ive tried to explain my love of the prequels.

So basically what No Man's Sky did and no one else, gotcha.

They're still terrible. A children's cartoon and some video games don't make terribly written, told and shot movies good.

@@TheSearchForTruth88 Wrong, wrong, and wrong. The prequels were always better than the original trilogy. Revenge of the Sith alone blows the fuck out of most of the OT. Only Empire and the last act of RoTJ comes close. You may now seethe.

@@tsurugi5 Even the biggest prequel fans will disagree here. The OT has much better dialogue and flows better, where every movie is relatively close to eachother while the PT randomly starts with a movie over 10 years before the next one that has almost no relevance to the story apart from the last 10 minutes. The prequels are good, don’t get me wrong, but the OT is just better than the PT.

Sam Witwer is really good

Fully agreed. TCW made Maul my favorite SW character. I just wish they better explained how he survived after TPM and how he ended up on Lotho Minor.

@@sarveshnathan7559 Apparently getting your legs cut off makes you immune to fall damage, I guess

@@sarveshnathan7559 My friends in high school (before the Clone Wars movie, let alone show) say he invented a tree branch to survive. Honestly, it's just as plausible as anything else, given our total lack of information.

His development is absolutely bonkers. If 12-year-old me was told these things, I'd have laughed. It's beautiful, honestly, what Star Wars stories can be capable of when told by the right people. And.. .a fellow Clone Wars and Akechi fan? I never thought I'd see the day!

I mean, there was a direct hit from an AT-TE's railgun cannon thing. It's a fair assumption to believe that the jedi surely would have been injured from the blast, in addition to the fall.

that's a good way of thinking about it. Cody's underrated, he's always overshadowed by Rex (love Rex still)

Headcanon can fix many flaws, and I love it for that

Headcanon is fine and all, but let's face it, Lucas is just a bad writer.

@@WobblesandBean I think he can be very good, but he self-admittedly hates a lot of the most necessary parts to writing a good story. Once he was a huge star director, he couldn't really be told "no" when he skipped em.

You didn't catch it in the first episode? Obi-Wan rushes in while Anakin is giving Ahsoka her lightsabers back informing them that Grevious has kidnapped the Chancellor, and they're preparing to go back to Coruscant. The Siege of Mandalore and Revenge of the Sith start at essentially the exact same time.

Yeah, but I thought Clone Wars would finish where Episode III starts, like Tartakovski's Clone Wars. Didn't think it would finish alongside Episode III.

Lmao same and after Obi-Wan dropped that line, I had sort of anxiety with every new scene. I remember when the clones captured Darth Maul there was this specific one shot where the camera zoomed in on one of the clone's helmet like as if its about to happen any second now

Yeah. Rex had subconsciously pieced together that Palpy was Sidious.

@@darknessdescending6695 That actually makes sense. Most clones are unaware their overlord is Sidious. Rex's experiences throughout the war, the incident with Fives, and all the shit he went through definitely made him smarter and more knowledgeable than most. So he heard Sidious somewhere along the line, and when the order came, that name instinctually came up and he said it.

Rex: yes, lord sidious... Plapy: *ayo what-* .....oh alright go get em trooper.

I've heard this theory since the episode aired two years ago and honestly I was never convinced. What pieces did Rex put together, realistically? Or rather, what pieces did we have on screen? We had Rex's suspicion due to the incident with Fives, and then Maul talked a little bit about him, but that's pretty much it. Even Jesse refers to him as Lord Sidious, but how would he know anything? Honestly I think that bit was just a bit of an error on the writers part, and I don't think it's something they've ever officially commented on... please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

@@Dylan-xx2tk Well Ahsoka explained to Rex that Maul said there was an evil Sith Lord called Sidious that was controlling everything from behind the scenes. Meanwhile, Fives told Rex that Palpy was behind a plot that was controlling everything from behind the scenes. I think Rex realized they were the same person. I don't think anyone officially confirmed it, but it would just make a lot of sense.

Order 66 ended up aging like wine

When Depa Billaba was killed by the clone soldiers, what did her apprentice do? He called me and I gave him the business card of the Disappearer. I told him to order a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro. That's why he ended up in Lothal. Better call Saul!

@@jamesmmcgill gold

Sure, if you ignore the inhibitor chip thing.

The scene was okay. Everything else around it made it good.

And you can't even enjoy it because it is just so stressful. You know it's gonna happen.

@@rosesweetcharlotte Exactly. But it's the music that makes it stressful too. If you played that... celebratory ending music that played in the early episodes of Clone Wars on that scene, it'd just be any other scene. But they play this slow, stressful, aethereal kind of piece over it, to put you on edge. Just shows you how important music is to a scene.

@@rosesweetcharlotte It's dramatic irony at its most horrifying and gut-wrenching

@@tonystank3091 Star Wars as a whole is an excellent case study in exactly how powerful music is for film

The fact these troopers painted their helmets in orange to show their support for Ashoka (Basically saying "We are YOUR team, forever" makes this even more brutal... They cared for her, supported her, yet they had not the strength to fight off this order... and died because of it...

@@andre_601 Rex did try and he almost succeeded….but sadly he could only hold himself back long enough for ahsoka to escape then in another episode Rex gave it another shot and broke free of the order

“They may be willing to die, but I won’t be the one to kill them” from Ahsoka before the final confrontation, brutal lol

Even sadder, the original version of the scene we have now saw Plo Koon surviving Order 66

Because this way they can say he survived if they want to bring him back

I remember that line 😕

That hit hard back then.

Original battlefront 2?

@@FrozenStarFish yeah

@@3DInnovations70 thank you, I need to play that campaign tbh. I played the original battlefront more when I was younger and didn't get to play battlefront 2 til later but I don't think I played the main campaign

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@@emoji3266 Dude, just make your own comment instead of a reply. A separate comment has a higher chance of being seen.

I have friends who say clone wars is still a kids show >:(

@@Smile-ov1us it is. Sure it has dark moments but star wars is a dark story. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a kids show.

Clone wars isn't a kids show, it's a family show, there is a difference

@@ntfoperative9432 I appreciate your pointing out this critical difference.

@@denlillaflakten4220 A kid's show that deals with many themes that very few children could possibly grasp unless they actually grew up in a warzone? I would say it wasn't really targeting a specific age group since it has stuff for everyone.

wow so emotional, somebody copy pasted the battlefront thing for the 12,000,000th time

He should of talked about Battlefront II for the pre Clone wars context of Order 66

I loved how they did the story for the old BF2.

I'm surprised he didn't talk about this. BF2 from 2005 was my first experience with order 66. Not technically canon anymore, given what's been added later with the inhibitor chips, but still iconic.

One that sticks with me is at the end of the Felucia mission he says no one could bear to look Aayla Secura in the eye while she was praising them - hinting that they all knew. I still think it's emotionally powerful even if that doesn't really work with the canon anymore.

If Order 66 didn't change the galaxy's fate, then what event is it?

@@jamesmmcgill Palpatine becoming the emperor...

Order 66 was one of my favorite part of Jedi: Fallen Order

@@jamesmmcgill The death of Qui-Gon. It's been often stated not just by fans, but by George and Filoni, that if he had lived the duel against Maul, aka the Duel of the Fates, Anakin would never have been groomed by Palpatine. Anakin needed a father, not a brother. He needed someone who would understand his emotions, not berate him for having them, and for following his heart over his head. He needed someone who would train him and push him, yet maintain that familial bond Anakin needed. The Duel of the Fates isn't just the song name just cause it's cool-the duel of the fates is to decide Anakin's fate itself. It certainly puts Anakin's relationship with Ahsoka in a new light. Anakin himself, grew to be a father/brother figure to Ahsoka, caring about her so much, to the point where he was the ONLY ONE who stood up for her when she was framed, demanded that the father bring her back to life when on Mortis, and maybe, JUST MAYBE tried to give a way out as Darth Vader when they meet again years later at that pyramid. Anakin became a father/brother figure to Ahsoka, even when he didn't have that himself.

Full children slaughtering scene!?!??!!!

wait really? i never noticed that

I mean... Anakin was the backbone of the Grand Plan since Palpatine met him in Ep 1 so that makes sense

maybe this might be the case with later batches (im unsure which batch/ generation Tup belongs to) but Sidious met Anakin after the clone army had already been ordered

@@Zoldergamer idk if it’s canon but I think he knew of the existence of the chosen one from when Plagueis tried to manipulate the force

@@ZoldergamerYeah, ordered maybe, but I would imagine it took awhile for the first clones to roll off the line so to speak. However, in Phantom Menace, Palps is still the Sith Apprentice at the start. He kills Plageus at some point during the run time if I remember correct, likely after ensuring his election. And Dooku was the one who manipulated Sifo Dias into placing the order and found Jango Fett as a template, and he left the order after the death of Qui Gon. So his recruitment as the Sith Apprentice and all that has to happen after Palpatine first recognizes Anakin’s potential, and the design of the inhibitor chip must have come sometime after he made his final decision to groom the young Jedi as his intended apprentice.

I sense a great disturbance in the force... As though a thousand voices cried out in confusion... and were silenced... one by one...

And even more than the Jedi, I think he would have felt the Clones too. He has repeatedly referred to clones as having a presence in the Force, and though not as obvious as another Force wielder might be, the number of Clones throughout the galaxy would give them a significant presence... especially if the same thing were to happen to every single Clone simultaneously. All throughout the galaxy, Yoda would have been assailed not just with the deaths of the Jedi, but the impact of probably millions of thinking, feeling, living beings having their free will and individuality stripped from them.

@@Zombiewithabowtie he'd also probably feel many of the clones dying as well cause if there are 10'000 Jedi and each would be able to take 5 clone troopers out before dying (as a generality), you can cound some 50'000 clones dying in a puff at the same time as the jedi. In the scale of the galaxy that's but a drop in the ocean but it happening at the same time as the jedi still makes it a heavier weight. 10'000 Jedi friend that die and millions of clone soldiers that Yoda considered as individuals and living beings deserving of life, getting their individuality stripped in addition of tens of thousands of them dying in an instant along with the jedi.

And he’d have sensed the very sudden and short mental turmoil among the clones

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Especially when he said “for weeks”. It’s like everything has been set up perfectly for a long time

Agreed. One of the best story beats in cinema history. There's a reason Palpy is such an iconic villain and I think 80% of the heavy lifting there happens in revenge of the sith.

Somehow Palpatine revealed himself.

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@@emoji3266 stop.

This is how I started writing my gnosticism + fanfic anime storyline.

What you mean by Order 66 being the best way for knowing how a story ends bit?

@@ByllionBucks I think in terms of TCW, we are just waiting for Order 66 the whole show. We know it's coming, we know it's gonna happen, but we don't know when it will happen. And then S7 happens and you just keep wondering when it will happen.

The sequels are non canon

@@thegamingprozone1941 They're canon and the TV shows are all building up to them

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@@emoji3266 go away

Which is a major focus of the first season of Bad Batch. I'm in the middle of watching S2 rn so I can't speak for the recent seasons, but a major B-plot for the first season was disposing of the Clones and the Kaminoan facilities

Its still sad that 4 of the 5 delta squad members still fell to the chip. At least one of em was able to make it and help the rebels.

I wonder if Alpha Class ARCs like Fordo had them. Nala Sai covers up their existence by saying that they were to prevent clones from being as aggressive as Fett but Alphas have been described as being 100% pure Jango Fett and they were personally trained by him if I remember correctly (there were only around 100) so perhaps he requested they be exempt from the process. That would explain why the Kaminoans put them in stasis until the Battle of Kamino (from Republic 50 - 52) due to being unsure if they'd be controllable.

If I'm right, those other orders were there just in case the chips full purpose was found out, so then Palpatine could just say it's a contingency. It's exactly why order 65 existed, to add legitimacy to Palpatines claim

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Source? Not sure if I’m a fan of that honestly. I also didn’t like how Howzer seemingly broke free no problem later on in Bad Batch.

That's a really good name for it.

Obviously it comes from Obi saying sorry to Padme, but I love your interpretation

no way they used the hit song by imagine dragons for order 66

I thought it was Anakin's Betrayal that played during Order 66 in ROTS, with Anakin's Dark Deeds in other interpretations of Order 66

"Though the age of the Republic is nearly over, it has saved its best for last" has always stuck with me. That, and the paragraph on love being a shining nova. It's a really good piece of star wars fiction, some of the best.

Beautiful way of describing it. The finale is one of my favorite star wars things EVER! I've started to put some TV stuff into my Star Wars Ranking. Here's my Top 3 Things Star Wars: 1. Empire 2. A New Hope 3. The Clone Wars 4 Part Series Finale

It’s that sense of suspense Hitchcock was talking about. The audience knows there’s a bomb underneath the table, the bomb under that table has been ticking for hours, but the characters don’t know there’s a bomb there, so we’re just sitting in this pool of nausea waiting to see when and how the bomb will go off who it will hurt and how the characters will react to it.

Reminds me of a lyric from the musical Hadestown (Story of Orpheus and Eurydice) “To know how it ends and still begin to sing it again, as if it might turn out this time”

Yep and without it, more clones would disobey than ones who would obey regardless. Rex, Jesse, the entirety of the Wolf Battalion under Plo Koon, the Bad Batch except Crosshair and among others.

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Palpatine manipulated himself?

Exactly. I hated him for it because of how much sense his explanation of the inhibitor chip made (especially when he just told Fives he was evil to make it look like Fives suddenly attacked him out of nowhere to further sell the inhibitor chip lie)

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Fives is my favorite character. Don't judge me.

@@RaptorRockDrakeJesus fives is 100% my favorite clone. I’d say favorite tcw character but ahsoka exists and had more of a chance for an arc

@@djsalad5752 mine is maul, i just love the way he's written and his voice actor is phenomenal

ah sounds interesting. i should add the novels to my book collection.

Interesting... but that's not how most people (including me) experienced it at the time, so it still doesn't make for some flaws of the movie as it is. Don't get me wrong, I like revenge of the sith, it's my favorite from the prequels, but it could have been done better, been a more solid film overall, if not for these flaws that Schaffrillas point out (mostly that we don't really know the clones nor most of the Jedi that die, and it takes away from the emotional impact it could have.)

@@leovk5779 The Star Wars prequels have always been an example of auteurism gone wrong, this perspective just adds another dimension to it. It has a good story hiding somewhere, but refuses to "compromise" and cut things that have no impact without context to improve the movie.

@@ericc9321 I wouldn't go as far as to say the movies are bad, or have completely gone wrong (though, some parts of the phantom menace...). I like them as it is (least favorite being the 1st, most favorite the 3rd). But you're right, there clearly could have been some cuts in the less important stuff (some of the Senate politics, some of the Anakin/Padme romance), so that they could have fleshed out better some of the underdeveloped important part. Like, we could have followed in the 2nd and 3rd movies a NAMED clone commander and a Jedi bound to be killed in order 66. Like a few scenes: one in the battle of Kamino, the clone commander and the Jedi meet, saving each other's life. Then in the 3rd one, we see them fight side by side, exchange banter in a few occasions, maybe in the space battle over the capitale of the Republic, or in their own distant battle in the outer rim. And then we see the betrayal... that would have left an impact, and made the order 66 more memorable, before we continue on with Anakin's fall and final battle with Obiwan. Obviously though, that's easy to say afterward, with the help of the insight. That must very difficult to do, when you are head on on a project, with limited means and a deadline, to know what will work and what won't...

If you're talking about the novelization by Matthew Stover then all I can say is, I'm envious. Because after I FINALLY found and read it, I concluded that that book is the best Star Wars anything I have found yet. The only complaint I've ever heard about it is something about the book being intended pretty much only for Star Wars fans. I wish every Star Wars fan could read and enjoy it. But then again, maybe it's just a really good fit for my preferred style of novel. Highly recommend to all Star Wars fans, give that book a try. If you've already read it, try it again whether you liked it or not.

You know what the worst part of it is? Yes, it is the end of the world, everything is wrong and nothing will ever be right again. But Rex and Ahsoka have to get back up and keep going. It is the first day of the rest of their lives.

I have no show that comes to mind right now that ends in such a sad and devastating ending... a punch in the gut it was and it was one of the best executed ending for a show I have ever seen so far, animated or otherwise.

@@paocut9018 what about the 90s dinosaur sitcom

Actually the most devastating finale of any show is Game of Thrones Season 8 because it literally collapsed the show's legacy

u just saw after it release 2 yrs ago damn

@@UltimateGamer34 I got motivated from this video XD

@@SonicHaXD Good. It would be a shame for a Star Wars fan. xD Have you seen "Star Wars The Clone Wars is a kids show"? It's awesome to watch on yt. ^^

@@IAzraelI Yeah I love that video XD

@@SonicHaXD Nice. xD

True, but they're genetically modified. Not everyone exposed to severe emotional trauma gets PTSD. Therefore I suspect that there is a genetic component.

Was it Warthog who shot him down?

​@@nastyfyme No, it was Captain Jag.

@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 thanks!

I'd be lying if I said I didn't say I wish we could've seen Clone Wars go in that direction (basically do the Umbara arc several more times to make the Clone actually want the Jedi to go away) but like Schaff said, the Chips are still a great and tragic addition.

Yeah, and that temple siege went down WAY harder than in the movie. Those damn archives, god how I hated them!

_"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."_

I still think it would be better if there was no chip and think it would be a better if was something like “clone are breed to being very loyal to the republic/empire” and would still be just as tragic. Not that munch of fan of the chip thing

Without the chips, it's the equivalent of putting your pet down due to various reasons

Friendships take years to build Seconds to break And forever to repair

I would go as far as to argue that the only true victims of Order 66 were the clones. Palpatine was Palpatine. The Senate blindly followed him and his orders. Over the course of the war, the Jedi lost focus and became less about balance and spiritual harmony and more of a militaristic force that used it's power to kill and attack rather than protect and defend. The closed themselves off, becoming secretive and suspicious of others. If you look at it from an outside perspective, the Jedi becoming hated by Republic citizens was just as much their fault as it was Palpatine's. The clones however, were bred for war and had no say in whether they went or not.

@@jellysauce3938 it was just the council mostly. The jedi who weren't involved with it that were actually out on the field were victims of 66 as well. Like the younglings, for example

The jedi genocided the sith.

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Well yeah cause the Sith literally just want to kill and wreak havoc

Also the normal civilians Could you imagine, Numa the small Twi'lek girl seeing her hero Boil gunning down a Jedi and become a villain

​@thaiangquoc9505 Just wait until she hears the news about Waxer.

​@@thaiangquoc9505She's seen wearing part of Boil's armor by the time she's an adult in Rebels, so Boil was either one of the clones who eventually became part of Rex's Clone Rebellion (Like Echo and those ones with unique names who were killed by the Clone Assassin) and gave it to her, or he died for some reason, and she started using it as a way to remember the man he once was, and not the one he became

@@coachlombardi9657 Given how he died, I wonder if she initially might actually be fine with Order 66….

a lot of things 'just for the kids' is actually deeper and contains some adult jokes

there was a time when "a kids show" didn't treat kids like brain-dead beings, looking back at the old shows I used to watch I give some of them more respect and admiration in the fact that they didn't hold my hand like I was going to fall up into the ceiling or that they aren't entirely doodoo and fart jokes

I watched Clone Wars growing up. It gave me many nightmares. To the point I wasn't allowed to watch it before bed.

Yeah for real I can see it to some degree but if I’d known someone for years I’d PROBABLY question that a bit before shooting them

Yeah, but this was made without the assumption that the clones had any personal attachment to the jedi. I mean the clones in AOTC and ROTS are all CGI except for when they take their helmets off. Just shows how robotic they are meant to be. I can't imagine Rex to just straight up be like "What? Ahsoka betrayed us? Kill her!", it would take a lot for a clone to jump from learning their jedi is treasonous, to massacre them on the spot.

@@MM-vs2et You have to keep in mind that the Clones are essentially child soldiers. They were rapidly aged so they enter service at 10 years old. They tell us this in episode 2. I personally find this a better explanation for their undying loyalty to Palpatine than the inhibitor chips, but I can understand why it was probably a better choice for the animated series. Additionally, I think that the original premise can still explain why some clones didn’t follow order 66. In canon it was the older, more developed cloned who went awol, but overall it came down to the clone in question. What I like about the pre-chip order 66 is that it makes the clones more human in a way. They are reacting to a perceived betrayal, so I find it natural that there would be a multitude of reactions across the breadth of the Clone Army. That most clones would choose the easy option of revenge against the Jedi’s betrayal fits into this framework. Furthermore, this reinforces the logic behind the older clones who are in leadership positions choosing to disobey the order, since naturally they interacted with the Jedi Generals more often and could feasibly become more emotionally attached to them.

@@Porcrhind It’s also noted that clones in general have been genetically modified to be more subservient. It’s not clear to what extent this applies but I always just assumed between their comparatively young age, genetic modifications, and t thorough conditioning causing them to be extremely dedicated to the Republic and following orders. I guess the chips work fine enough and it’s not lie the tech is unreasonable for the setting it does come off as a bit more cheap.

remember that's there's millions of clones and only 10 thousand Jedi.... and not all of them were fighting alongside the clones 90% of clones probably never talked to a jedi

Order 69 is preferable.

That’s the thesis of the video

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Not by much

It was Bly who shot Secura as a mercy. The Wolfpack didn't seem to be on Cato Nemoida with Plo Koon, and he was flying with a new wingman instead of Wqrthog, his usual partner.

@@sampelletier9798 my bad. But still, kinda my pout. Right?

@@ryankronenbitter2013 Oh yeah, certainly.

It really explains why Wolffe is so messed up in Rebels.

@@rosesweetcharlotte apparently I’m wrong on this, my bad. But still, you get a sense of how the different clones reacted depending on how their Jedi masters treated them

Yo, I didnt even think about how easily foldable the Jedi on temple duty during an intergalactic war must have been. 🤯 Then, freshly turned Elden Lord Boss Annie Skywalker, "The Darth Omen" pulls up on the temple with half the 501st Legion of fucking d o o m; fresh out the trenches of interplannetary squabbin to put their poor tarnished ambitions to rest. 😂 There was NO hope. 😐 Prime Vader's hallway scene in the Jedi Temple is going to be...brutal, ya'll. 😬 Assuming, the writers on that new Kenobi show have the kyber crystals to go there, I'm expecting a very epicly tragic flashback.

Not to mention it just so happens that 2 powerful Jedi that would be a huge problem for the clones and would be able to protect the Jedi temple (Kit Fisto and Mace Windo) were killed by him minutes before he executes order 66. Whether or not it was actually part of his plan to lure 4 Jedi Masters to his chambers to kill them it played even more into his favor.

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Wasn't it Bly who said "good thing we were wearing helmets, I don't think any of us could've looked her in the eye"

@Ruben Fajardo More like a nameless clone trooper from 2005 Star Wars Battlefront II.

Bro i was so hooked on Maul and his ally (can't remember his name? Was it Savage?) trying to survive in a world controlled by Sidious It was so hard to watch the next few steps in his story around that time

The worst part for me is just like with fives, they were so close to stopping it. Outside of Anakin, Maul and Ashoka were the two strongest force users likely and Ashoka was going to actually join Maul to “save” Anakin before she realized he didn’t want to save him but kill him. If Ashoka had been there when all of this was happening, I think he wouldn’t have turned, at least not fully and would have been redeemed. The original version of it all didn’t have Anakin’s eyes turn yellow until after obi wan left him to die on mustafar.

*and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple.

Man, I could hear the OG Battlefront II narrator say that while readding your comment.

Very cool

Only someone who posts such an in-depth analysis with such accuracy and detail, on a fictional subject no less, can earn this much respect from me. Bravo 👏

Bro wrote a five paragraph essay just to prove a point about something that at the end of the day is fiction. And I'm all for it! The detail you put in is amazing and I could easily see this getting it's own video if you tried hard enough. TL;DR this is amazing! Keep up the good work.

Y’know, this actually does put a new light into my knowledge on the chips, even with my inexperience in that part of the field. I like it, and great post :>

That does raise the question of why even activate the chip? Why not just have the clones be robotic and obedient all the time? Considering the Kaminoans' complete lack of empathy for the clones, giving them free will from the beginning doesn't make any sense with the chip in mind.

@@BurnBird1 I don't think it's stated outright anywhere but I think the sudden shift from "obey and trust the Jedi in all things" to "slay all Jedi immediately" (in the middle of a battle no less) was part of the plan. It was an ambush, the point was to catch the Jedi off-guard. And Jedi have an element of precognition. If the clones had no idea that the order was coming (or when) then they couldn't betray the plan and thus the Jedi couldn't sense their intent until it was too late.

@@HalfTangible This is covered in the "Darth Plagueis" novel. The intent was to create a situation where the Jedi would turn their backs to the very people who would kill them, while making the Sith look like heroes to a galaxy cheering them on. And given the media manipulation that was going on, it worked, at least in legends. People hated the Jedi, which made it all the easier for the Empire to get rid of them. I wish something of this side would be shown, as it makes the aftermath of Order 66 even messier from a moral standpoint, further adding to the tragedy.

@@BurnBird1 probably so the jedi wouldn't be unnerved by and mistrustful of them. I mean if you saw human beings acting more like robots than actual in universe robots do would you want them at your back with a gun?

@@Lunk42 Why would you be mistrustful of a soldier that obeys your every order? Robots programmed to obey your every command would be the most trust worthy thing in the galaxy.

Right... except the OT told its story and also had beloved content made about it. Because it was good enough to warrant a want for more. Lucas actively making his movies suck isn't brilliant.

@damkylan3 I think this refers mostly to the gap between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. End of Episode II we see the clones loading up onto their ships in Republic space after the first battle of Geonosis. Then at the start Episode III, Courascant is under siege and its all out naval warfare. There's a lot of explaining that is open to explore, General Greivous being one of them - like how does he know Obi Wan and Anakin by name as well as reputation no less.

That's an interesting theory!

Didn’t the show say he was saved by a Jedi tho? I could be wrong as I don’t remember it too much, but I could have sworn the show said that. I personally think he was saved by Jo costa nu the librarian, as she was there during the attack. Might have also been a temple guard, maybe the then GI? Either way, it’s an interesting theory and one I haven’t even thought of. Hopefully we get an answer in the third season of Mando.

Welp turns out Jar Jar saved him

​@@Dabazuka Lol. The fact that this is true on many levels is incredible.

@@JIKwood it's great isn't it

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@@pax6833 Because it never happened.

Well I think they mature mentally faster as well. Now they’re obviously not as mature as a fully mature human. As they lack many years of life experience, but mentally they’re definitely more mature than 10-15 years old

their brain matures faster as well.

I know people will say that "the clones aren't mentally children" and all that, but the arc doesn't exactly show that. I have seen people hate on Siege of Mandalore because they feel like it infantilizes Rex, but, yes, that is the point. Rex not only cries, but he sounds outright whiny at points. He doesn't want to kill his brothers, he doesn't want to hurt Ahsoka, he doesn't want things to go thr way they will. And while he shows a lot of independence in that arc, he is also constantly looking to Ahsoka for her input and her validation. And why? Because not only is this incredibly stressful, but because that is literally his programming, to look to the Jedi for guidance and support.

@@IndyJacksonTT wrecker seems to not have judging by lula and his childish nature, which is very cute

@@IndyJacksonTT Rex: 'in my book experience outranks everything' Ahsoka: 'i'm literally older than you lmao'

Wow, that makes a lot of sense

well the clones were phased out after o66 and replaced by the stormtroopers

​@@Eingefallen in the bad batch they were still around for a good while

Storm troopers didn’t suck at shooting, all of the times they missed in the OT was because they were meant to capture the rebels. This evident by the fact that they steam roll on Tantive 4, and Hoth. On Endor they were ambushed by forces much larger than them, then land a few successful shots on R2 and Leia, then as there about to apprehend them they are shot. I hate this shit argument.

And that, people, is fan attempt to fulfill holes for ya !

I remember a comic from the late 2000's depicting that with a group of commandos actually, can't remember the name of it though

@@ianchorne8129 If we’re talking Delta squad, they wouldn’t need the chip to want to do it.

Funny thing is, according to episode 5 of CW Season 7, a lot of if not most civilians don't actually like the Jedi, and see them as warmongers who have forgotten about the common people. So while people may have been shocked at witnessing Order 66 go down, they might not have been all that sad about it. That being said, since the main character you've described is just a kid, then they probably wouldn't care about the political/war aspect of things, and just like the cool wizard people with glowing swords.

@@spark1400 There was a whole propaganda angle that used to exist in the old cannon. Palps was in direct control of Holo-net news feeds about the war, and they skewed victories as always thanks to the clones and Republic Civilian officers, while losses got blamed on the Jedi's softer, less aggressive nature. This propaganda machine affected not just the Republic citizenry, but also the clones and younger Jedi (like Anakin, Ahsoka, Fosto's Padawan whose name I've forgotten, etc.) This led to the Jedi abandoning more and more of their own principles to win the war, turning them into the warmongers the public thought they were. Couple this with the Average Jedi's detachment- the fact that even when they lead from the front, they don't weep for losses. Anakin and Ahsoka were not average Jedi; Obi-Wan was. Obi-Wan lived at every corner to please the Council, keeping Cody and all the 212th at arms length even throughout the show. Order 66 was just one of a lengthy list of Contingency Orders. Among them also an Order to remove the Chancellor (65 I believe.) Thing is, 65 has to come down from a vote in the Senate, while 66 comes from the Chencellor exclusively. The clones saw even the Jedi they worked with as detached and uncommitted to victory, and now the Order comes down that their Council has attempted a coup? Absolutely you're going to just put the one closest to you to death. You can't risk arresting them, even if you've rarely been beside one, you've heard how much of a super soldier they are. Imagine that one boss you've never really liked, but understood he was your boss has been implicated as a terrorist. You know he's always been a religious nutter; you've seen his incompetence kill your friends, and him just shrug it off; you've seen him leap 30 stories unassisted and move objects with his mind. You know that you and your buddies don't stand a chance at arresting him to let him plead his case, and that his religion is charged with is Treason in war time; it carries a death sentence anyways. Your only hope is to kill him before he knows you know.

@@BonesCapone This. Very much this. What I'd want to see of Order 66 is very much that civilian perspective, except a civilian who's just been living his or her own life, only then to hear that the Jedi attempted to overthrow the Chancellor. The fear of these people, who can accomplish impossible feats and control minds, seizing power. The relief when seeing clone troopers gun them down. The happiness at seeing the Chancellor proclaim that he's alive, he's safe, the insurrection has been put down and it's all over. What the Clone Wars series tampers with and what the Bad Batch outright undermines is that central plot of the prequel trilogy - that Palpatine's takeover is gradual. That the true revenge of the Sith is not conquest of the Republic, but that they rise to power from behind the scenes and wipe out the Jedi and the people cheer them on for it. I want an Empire that is *compelling*, a situation where you can see once you take a step back that Palpatine's POV and Anakin's and whatnot are wrong but where you can easily understand how without all that hindsight you could go along with it and believe in it. There's little tragedy in the clones killing the Jedi if the clones had no choice anyway. There's no question of 'what would I do in this situation', because the Empire makes it pretty clear they're evil. I like a lot about Clone Wars, The Bad Batch, even Rebels, but stuff like that just really bothers me.

“I hear we’re getting new orders soon”

This actually happened in Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga

*cue robot chicken order 1-65 song*

"Execute Order 69" I MEANT 66 GODDAMMIT

At least he didn’t say Order 65. His plan would have unraveled at the last possible moment, and the saga would have ended right then and there.

That sounds like a cool concept, it sounds like Halo Reach’s Survive mission.

Basically: Metroid Dread but with stormtroopers. Dang that actually sounds kinda cool

I felt The Bad Batch really skipped over a lot of potential Order 66 story beats. You have a changing Republic into The Empire, Scattered Jedi, Rogue Clones, Surviving Separatists, and to top it off, defunct Clone Specialists in The Bad Batch crew. The death of a Kamino Clone Rebellion hurt to not see. Let's see something amazing with these concepts, we haven't seen anything yet tho. Just pieces of potential.

Be a unique direction to take a Fallen Order Clone/ Spin off.

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i agree, but disney will never do it

I would like but it's at 69, I really want this to happen but I doubt it will

@@kaygo6244 it’s not 96 😉 but yeah I agree, this would really make it all that much more heavy, like I know that there have been small instances where the treatment of droids is seen as inhumane, but it’s never really addressed. And that with the clones would be absolutely devastating, I’d love to see it but I don’t think Disney will sadly.

It's sort of like that with the clone wars multimedia project that came out the same time as the prequels e.g. Republic Commando.

Not to mention all of the various conflicts they’d fight. I’d be interested in seeing the conflicts against the Geonosians through a longer lens. I’ve heard that those battles were amongst the worst the Clones ever had to go through.

Rebels definitely had the same improvement over time. Mauls interactions, Ahsoka and leaning more into the Force past the more kiddie smuggler type stuff actually made the show pretty good in the end. My main disappointment is Thrawn in the show effectively being constrained by it being more kid friendly and not the super impact character he is in his old legends books

@@mikkeal i agree with you on everything here and the kiddiefied thrawn will hopefully change in the ahsoka show (wich from the sounds of it sound just like a life action rebels sequel wich i'm all for)

I binged it all in about 2 weeks and was really sad when it was over. I'm glad it seems like they're picking up with Ahsoka trying to find Ezra

I rewatched the whole thing recently. I must say that the hate for Seasons 1 and 2 is overblown. They aren't as great as Clone Wars, but they have some fantastic stuff. Seasons 3 and 4 have some of my favourite scenes in Star Wars in general.

I gotta say that Kallus was by far one of my favorite characters from that series. He was excellent

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Honestly Disney procuring Star Wars is so sad, like it's almost like any ip they touch they soil

God, canon order is an extremely good idea to get someone to do

@@mikkeal I did that with my wife. She didn't know what Order66 was. I had the Clone Wars S7 open on my laptop and ROTS open on my TV and would swap between scenes until it was over. She didn't want to talk to me for a few days. She was so invested in Asohka, Obi-wan, and Anakin's stories.

@@val-raaven8435 That's awesome. I was just thinking about what order you would show someone, s7 or ROTS and thats a great answer. Can I ask where you paused and unpaused?

@@mikkeal I had a website that showed me the exact minute. There are videos out there that do it for you buy they are usually low quality. Let me see if I can find exactly what I used

It probably wasn't as impactful as watching either one first and then the other but it was kinda cool to see it all happen in real time (even though the CW look better than rots)

It really isn't a good movie. It's the worst of the original 6. But I would take it over the sequels any day.

While the prequels can’t hold a candle to the original trilogy, I would have to say that Revenge of the Sith is one of the best ones. However one aspect I like about both the prequels and the original trilogy is how they both feel connected, yet still being their own story almost feeling like a whole different franchise in a good way. The sequels just suck tho.

@@fishtaco2996 As far as I'm concerned ROTS is the only prequel that surpasses the entire OT It's the second best piece of SW media behind TCW

10 of asking Schaffrillas to talk about Sid the Sloth in Encanto. (If anyone’s wondering, I am not a bot. I am just upset.)

It damaged the coherency of both the prequels and the EU beyond measure. It did not improve them by any shred of logic. Except that Attack of the Clones is a good movie, and the “fans” who needed convincing have either piss poor taste or were misled into thinking a demonstrably good film is bad.

10 of asking Schaffrillas to talk about Sid the Sloth in Encanto. (If anyone’s wondering, I am not a bot. I am just upset.)

do you have any suggestions for fics like that?

Why would he have probe droids looking for him, he had men searching, if he wanted him to live they wouldn't have looked

That doesn’t make much sense when considering that the phrase Sidious specifically states is “the time has come” suggesting that the clones knew about the order ahead of time. And it wasn’t a matter of thought. That was canonically the case from 2002-2013. This was confirmed by Pablo, Lee Lan Chee, and novels like Republic/ Imperial Commando. The inhibitor chips was a retcon placed later all in the service of removing accountability from the clones. How dare the perfect soldier follow an executive order without the big bad mind control device forcing them too.

​@kingorange7739 I liked the idea of the chips when I saw a video about how it wiped their memories and made them view the jedi as hostile. Because if you notice in rots the clones becomes extremely hostile to the point of almost hatred doing anything necessary to kill jedi. This is seen again in clone wars when Jesse and the clones corner ashoka and rex on the crashing venator. They were so dedicated to carrying out their orders that they were willing to die on a crashing ship in order to do so. That is hatred. The chips made them believe that jedi were so evil that not a single clone attempted to save themselves on the crashing ship. Something to think about

@@ethanearly9245 Which is fine, if you like the chips man. All the power to you. I will even admit I am not as strongly against them now as I was years ago, but I still stand that Legends did it better. The reason why the clones appeared very aggressive in ROTS was because it was meant to represent that deep down the clones were not good people. I mean we have to remember they were cloned off a mandalorian bounty hunter who was extremely aggressive and ruthless and with the exception of some genetic modifications to make them more docile with following orders, they were the same.

Well that's because orginally they DID CHOOSE, legends had clones as more drone like, with only special forces and select few troopers having a personality and feelings

@@kingorange7739Not really. Most clones would naturally disobey by the time the war is about to end. The Wolf Battalion under Plo Koon would be a prime example and if a Jedi like Plo Koon gets to live under such attempted massacre AND if Ahsoka obviously gets to survive it because an entire clone battalion painted their helmets under her honor and Rex and Jesse sensibly refusing to follow it, the Galactic Empire is already doomed. It was changed because the chips made more sense as it shows practical Palpatine is thinking of every possible corner covered. Because in Legends, most clones eventually did disobey because certain of them STILL DEVELOPED CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS with the Jedi from close friendship to an outright romantic relationship. So much for Palpating relying on them just following orders......because the clones who would follow it by the end would naturally be anomalies. The stupid "good soldiers follow orders" schtick without the inhibitor chips is far more contrived and stupid.

I agree Sun Tzu. It was truly an artwork of war

Probably because you did most of the fighting, Lord Vader

just because it had one absolutely phenomenal arc, doesn’t make it that good of a season, the other 2 were eh, if they were as good as the siege arc, then it would be as good as u state it.

@@AidenLiquid Having a good season doesn’t always mean a good arc. The Animation was phenomenal. How they brought back the old voice actors. The music. And How they managed to tie all this into the rest of the Star Wars universe. (Solo, Rebels, Bad batch, and the OG trilogy)

@@Pope_Francis_III ohhh, okay so what your using is, you liked the ENTIRE season because of your nostalgia blind? did u like the siege of mandalore just because it had good animation, beautiful voice acting? and NOT because of the phenomenal writing and storytelling? wow man u just exposed yourself.

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Yeah, the clone Wars does an excellent job of fleshing things out, and even changes how you view certain things. An example is anakin's whole desire for master status and stuff. Going by just the movies he comes off as kinda whiny and doesn't seem to deserve it. With the show we get MUCH more context and shown how capable he is, especially in a leadership position, so his reaction in the movie makes ALOT more sense. By that point he has shown just as much competence for the role as obi-wan who WAS a master. Also we get far more glimpses of the darker aspect of Anakin that pushes him towards desiring the master status and likely what gave Yoda and the council trepidation about it. Even if they didn't know some or most of that, the darkness in him would have been tripping some alarm, conscious or not

I remember The Clone Wars being announced / speculated over pretty much the instant after Revenge of the Sith came out, so we can’t act like it was a complete afterthought just because we didn’t get to see the actual conclusion to the show for like 16 years later

@@drachepumpernickel7056 "doesn't seem to deserve it" He killed a Sith Lord and the leader of the CIS